Bethel Repeats Christendom’s Pattern

Bethel Shows Signs of Deeper Problems

Hello Brother,

This was a reply to a brother EdenOne, that I think may be useful for you.

I KNOW the feelings you are having of something very wrong at Bethel. And in fact it is worse, it is UN related which ties in with theological subversion present in marked manner since 1990, and it is now beyond coincidental.

I have been a JW for a while, now baptized 22 years. But I now observe Matt24:15 for the UN NGO signal, and the Memorial 2012 was my last “meeting”, but I am still preaching now to Jehovah’s witnesses and others about actual prophecy, not Bethel diversions any longer.


My Reply to EdenOne at above link.

As Jehovah’s witnesses became experts at types and repeating patterns that defined our religion by insightful former Bible students in the lead of theological insight (and open mindedness to adjust as needed), based on these recurring patterns of judgment in Israel, Jerusalem and Christendom from where the IBSA sprung, JWs are now backward and insightless concerning the final replication of Christendom’s own corruption type that is now centered at Bethel in revisited form (2Thess2:1-4) as the GB is little more than a collective papal body. The entire clergy and laity classes are also invisibly present in JWs, the “lawless one” is also “lords of the faith”, the foundational truths are being demolished (like GB=FDS) rather than reinforced to further JW understanding of historic and prophetic repeats, JWs are spiritually polluted and it is terminal. (Zech3:1-3; Rev8:10-12).

But as per pattern, JWs deny all this.

In other words JWs are heading for a judgment first (1Pet4:17) upon the exact same road, the same principle, the same pattern, the same prophecy, as all those they preach about who fell into organized apostasy just like JWs have now; (Dan11:32a; 2Thess2:3 – Hosea, Micah, Isaiah whole books). Except in like manner to the very patterns prior to JWs, taught by JWs, formerly recognized by JWs, JWs are now the ones fully blinded, in denial and the matter is made worse by being misled by the leaders erred direction, again, of what is now an installed cult and override that follows personalities of men, and distracts from the very essence of faith in God and Christ, and diminishes any true faith in sacrificial based undeserved kindness by works of men, in performance and counts, traditions and delusions of a former JW approved ministry of the distant 1930s and 1940s parroted over and over as if the valid past can cover the invalid JW present.

The Pharisee pattern is right at Bethel, but JWs are oblivious, focused on GB ring kisses.

I am not saying to not write a letter, but to do as you feel is right. What I am saying, that prophecy has already said numerous times, is JWs even now repeating the main pattern, are as in former manifestations of this pattern beyond human repair, and must now also face a divine accounting as they did at one time track UN activity and prophecy up to 1945, but no longer do so. By 1990 rather than expound the meaning of a 3rd UN placement after the cold war in 1990, Bethel instead placed their own UN “disgusting thing” in 1991-2001 as UN NGO (Matt24:15), and concealed the UN manifestation as per prophecy at Daniel 11:31b retaining defunct USSR fictions.

Rather than expound the meaning of a 3rd UN and 4th (final) UN placements present at Dan11:30-45, and it’s obvious implications, JWs now act as if it is already done, and none of this final UN development makes any difference whatsoever. Somewhere between 1945 and 1990 JW leadership derailed and went UN, and JWs now cover up the obvious 8th King as King North in plain activation since 1990, the year Bethel went into misinformation mode for their UN partners. Like Christendom endorsing the “League of Nations”, JWs now endorse the United Nations as historic public UN NGO, same pattern, same actual action, it too is a repeat.

And thus, for 22 years, prophecy is also now diverted and misapplied by the Bethel clergy. JWs are now hanging at Daniel 11:44, expecting that to manifest next. But Daniel 11:42-43 financial and world wealth globalization cycle under the 8th King is what is next, so JWs are overly advanced in the prophecy, and in the globalization process, and are expecting the end of the world “any day now”. But rather, the Daniel 11:42-45 final 8th King cycle will take several years to accomplish to full internationalized government power over that final phase.

And in that period of Daniel 11:42-43 global debt intrigues, the 8th King will also become “ruler of the silver and the gold” and “all the desirable things” of also the Bethel world empire of now false religion, first (1Pet4:17). And in that disaster to befall JWs, going on for several years itself (Dan8:13-14; Hos6:1-3), forces beyond human will have to judge and remove the Bethel obstructions of the 1-2-3-4 UN super-cycle continuum, that JWs have been covering up since 1990 (Dan8:12b), with enough time to clean out JWs (Rev8-9 repeat; Zech3:4-5), and let it be known what a 4th UN placement really means at Daniel 11:44-45. (Rev10-11 repeat; Please read Rev:10:11 ch. 10 v. 11).

And that is why for now, human efforts cannot remove the Bethel cabal now in power and full ownership of all JW “desirable things”. It is just a matter of time that the Bethel internal regime hands over Bethel to 8th King intrigues soon, as for at least 22 years all Bethel is positioned for such an event “at that time”; (WT 11/15/13 pg. 20, par. 17, directive #3), and “that time” is very near, as Bethel itself reminds JWs clearly. Except it is not the “end of the world”, it is the BEGINNING of the final cycle of prophecy and globalization, and it merely is repeating as JWs should easily recognize, but have been deluded by purposeful misleading leaders at Bethel. The world cannot “end any day now” as JWs are misled to expect next to aid the implosion of Bethel, Bethel is the entity that can and will “end any day now”.

So like the Warden’s advice to Andy Dufrane, by all means write a letter, in fact write one every week. We are all doing Bethel time. Their will be a Bethel Redemption, and it will be global in impact. The GB Warden cannot be reformed but must be removed completely, it’s basic premise of existence and Biblical precedent is not truthful in and of itself. Thus a lie, which the GB is in basic meaning not found in the Bible, is a bad experiment, nothing more, nothing less. A lie. (2Thess2:10-11). Things beyond human will befall the Bethel apostasy and center of organized lawlessness. (2Thess2:3-4, 8; 1Pet4:17). (And that long before the actual end, and as per repeating prophecy and pattern.)

Just like before, again, etc…

end of reply


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Regards, keep researching THE BIBLE, for in it is the full description of Bethel’s signal apostasy and final modern “man of lawlessness”, “in the temple”, right at Bethel. Bethel must be judged for the UN NGO, the “transgression causing desolation” of Daniel 8:13, as Daniel 8:13-14 is the final temple judgment on specifically JWs to begin with the final cycle for the Dan8:14 and Dan12:7, 11 timed periods repeating to the 4th UN placement as world government as per Dan12:11, 11:45, 8:25.

When the marked events fall on Bethel (1Pet4:17), you can use Dan8:14 timing to know how long the “evening” will last of divinely required JW organizational desolations as Dan8:13 initial “trampling”, aided for a final period by internal Bethel 8th King allied traitors, until their divine removal as per 2Thess2:8 of the final cycle. (2Thess2:3 “son of destruction” meaning, betrayers of Zech11).

That “evening” of JW organizational desolations for UN NGO treasons and adulteries is half the 2300 “evenings and mornings”, or 3.2 years as per Hos6:1-3, Isa37:30-32, and Dan8:14, 26. It is followed by a “morning” of cleansed JW recovery as Zech3:1-5, to make a final Kingdom completion proclamation as per Rev10: v. 11)

Bethel will be hit soon in an intended series of more events for worldwide cessation of the JW “constant feature”, now discontinued in spirit, due to profanations of Dan8:11-13, and Dan11:30b-32a. It will become a world signal of what is to follow over a number of marked years as the JW initial patterns of Daniel 12, must replicate and Rev8-11 will be what is activated in JW temple juudgment as per 1Pet4:17 as Dan8:13-14.


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