Q: JW’s still know and believe the 8th world power, and the 7th, the False Prophet will go down, and Jehovah will even help out the cause. Rev. 17:17. Christians have always had to work with the enemy, the ruling govt’s to get the good news preached. Eph. 6:12 What you claim as ‘treason’ is just “wrestling.”
7th King Fall
Well adjoining JWs to the 8th King wildbeast UN image is a bit more serious, and concealing the 1990 3rd UN placement as “new world order” initiative as the prophecy it is, is also very serious subversion.
Now please bear with me, the logic is in the prophecy and in the numerical sequence.
“JW’s still know and believe the 8th world power, and the 7th, the False Prophet will go down, and Jehovah will even help out the cause. Rev. 17:17”
That is true. But 7 must progress to 8 in the sequence, they cannot “co-rule”, that is a Bethel myth:
1. The 8th world power is not simply the UN “image”, it will have to be 8th King full “scarlet wildbeast” WORLD GOVERNMENT, and that has yet to complete and present itself. (1Thess5:1-3)
(This still respects all God given JW insight on that prophecy, BUT Revelation 17:11-18 has to TOTALLY complete, and this merely finishes what modern Bethel will not summarize: total world government, not yet present in the UN, is not yet fully present officially on earth. An that will require more years and that whole “tribulation of those days” phase.)
2. In that process, the 7th King must be deposed first into that 8th King FULL world government. That is why it is 7th in line, and 8th King comes AFTER the 7th King. It is logical the 7th King is not the last king in that sequence. Bethel is bypassing this logic.
(Bethel simply bypasses the significance of the 7 to 8 process, by claiming the 8th King is the UN in itself. It is not, the UN is the “image”, full world government will be the global “scarlet wildbeast”.)
So yes God will depose the 8th King (after it is actual world government), but the 8th King system will depose the 7th King nation-state sovereignty of the Anglo-American system. (That 7th King downfall is in the coming “tribulation of those days”, and if we notice, that is why Christ arrives AFTER the “tribulation of those days” has resolved on its own at Matt24:29-31, because by then, full 8th King WORLD GOVERNMENT will “be present” in that final “abyss rise” of Revelation 17:8-11, to complete Revelation 17:11-18 100%, parallel Revelation 11:7 second witness ceasing, it all repeats.);
This is why in the real Daniel 11:42-43, YET TO FULFILL IN THE FUTURE, King North deposes King South by global gold control and asset control financial system domination, now forming in the global system. King North, who also MUST be 8th King world government, merely absorbs King South alive, making him, a her, a subservient vassal king, in Daniel 11:42-43 wording that is that 7th King downfall in global dominance.
Bethel subverts this prophecy by maintaining the IMPOSSIBLE USSR error. Paying full attention to prophecy IS VERY VERY IMPORTANT, and that is why Bethel diverts JWs from the key prophetic details.
So I am not disagreeing with any JW insight up to 1990, I just point out modern Bethel is BYPASSING the most significant period (a whole final cycle) in coming world history in that REQUIRED 7th King fall, for 8th King full rise, into full world government; it will come to completion, it must, BEFORE Christ arrives; AND they are simply selling that period to JWs as “the end”, when in fact the “tribulation of those days” is the key period the 8th King will “rise” and achieve full world government as actual full 8th King, including, but not just, the UN “image of the wildbeast”, BUT the WHOLE thing.
THAT has yet to fully complete, it is NOT “the end” coming up, it is the START of that final cycle and the START of the temple judgment of 1Peter 4:17.
Bethel is attempting to bypass that whole final transformation and 8th King completion cycle as simply “the end”, and that is when they plan aid the Bethel coup of (Dan8:13), and sell that to JWs as also “the end” to attempt to fully abort the ministry, and they will. But the eventual recovered JW ministry must go on later into that cycle, and that will be the FINAL clarification leading to the truly FINAL global warning of the SECOND witness, and that is why there are [[TWO]] [witnesses]. And that is actually going to be the temple judgment, and that is prophecy now bypassed by apostate Bethel.
But in reality, JW MUST “prophesy again” and make these clarifications known:
(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “YOU MUST PROPHESY AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”
All I am saying to you is there is far more coming than simply the slam dunk “the end”, so just make a mental note of why the 7th King has to be superseded by the 8th King in far fuller manner than just the UN “image”, and that is what Bethel will not clarify, because that ministry is compromised. So test these words in the future, and see if Bethel’s “the end” arrives as fast as they imply. (2Thess2:1-2>>> by prophecy the apostasy has to be revealed first, the modern apostasy at Bethel.) Bethel is selling JWs the 2Thess2:1-2 premature end delusion “to the effect the day of Jehovah is here”, failing to also tell JWs their apostasy has to be revealed first, hence 2Thess2:1-4 full meaning now present at Bethel.
It is all already in the prophecy, in the places Bethel will neither clarify or summarize to logical conclusion, because they are the signal apostasy and these are the symptoms of it.