Q: Do you read Robert King’s blogs and videos? He is also a prophet on Bethel apostasy. I will post my manifesto Friday or next week. I focus on accepting the “invitation” to the wedding feast of Jesus or becoming anointed. It’s a short declaration but I really want to get it done this year. I will post it here first and I hope whoever reads it shares it with others. The Bible is a fascinating Book that has many events that are synonymous with the last says and the covenant of Jesus. It is like a puzzle that God opens the minds of His anointed to understand. Otherwise, many would know what you and I know. We must feed God’s sheep because God will make them grow if we plant (1 Corinthians 3:5-7).
I BELIEVE Jehovah’s witnesses anointed Christian prophecy of the 1914-1919 cycle as the first world government cycle, and the first modern Kingdom proclamation that eventually fully manifested from 1914 to say 1950 or so. (I too think the apostasy was setting root around 1945 time periods, approximate)
So I read some Robert King, but DO NOT AGREE with his abandonment of 1914 important early JW and WW1-to-world-government prophecy. 1914-1919, is to me, the FOUNDATION cycle and the MASTER PATTERN of the final cycle, they are essentially the same exact prophecy, just the final cycle we are coming to will equate to full 8th King world government.
Thus imo, 1914-1919 is very very important to get the big picture. World-war-to-world-government is a common cycle now, and it is the basic meaning in that dimension of rival world government development of the FIRST cycle and WW1. It is very important to see world government likes to present the “solution” right after the world tribulation “problem”. It is a formula.
As bad as it may seem to get, they will resolve that coming “tribulation of those days” for 8th King world government and that final “world peace” of 1Thess5:1-3. And it takes some years, not many, but some, to unwind that cycle.
I feel lawless Bethel is a purposeful internal defection and subverting INFILTRATION designed to also discredit the original cycle by Bethel’s ridiculous lawlessness and reproaches and inane spiritual hubris. (Dan11:32a, 41)
THE PURPOSE IS DISCREDITING 1914-1919 BECAUSE THAT CYCLE IS THE PATTERN OF THE FINAL CYCLE AND THE 8TH KING PLANNERS AND BETHEL DO NOT WANT THAT EXPLANATION TO BE COMPLETED BY JEHOVAH’S ANOINTED CHRISTIAN WITNESSES.
This is why the truths Robert King does have are actually, imo, dangerous because it relies on overturning the primary truth cycle of 1914-1919. Thus in its own way, Bethel and sites like King support the same error, attempting to dump all 1914 significance. Bethel aids this not directly, but indirectly by providing reproach, error and hypocrisy to make people now doubt the WHOLE JW ministry. That is how Bethel works hand in hand with these other external errors, mixed with truth. The main goal is the total discrediting of the WHOLE JW ministry, and the discrediting of the first cycle of 1914-1919. Wiping that out will totally lose all anchor in prophecy.
So to me this applies to Robert King and all, including myself:
(Acts 5:38-39) And so, under the present circumstances, I say to you, Do not meddle with these men, but let them alone; (because, if this scheme or this work is from men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is from God, you will not be able to overthrow them;) otherwise, you may perhaps be found fighters actually against God.”
I do not recommend tossing the baby with the bathwater. Bethel is apostate, but the anointed Christian ministry of 1914 I do respect and uphold, and it just gets clearer when we know the world government cycle also pictured there, will, imo, repeat, and I feel it is more than opinion, but prophecy, prophecy Bethel works to undermine, while claiming to uphold it.
“”The Bible is a fascinating Book that has many events that are synonymous with the last says and the covenant of Jesus. It is like a puzzle that God opens the minds of His anointed to understand. Otherwise, many would know what you and I know. We must feed God’s sheep because God will make them grow if we plant (1 Corinthians 3:5-7)””
yes. Exactly. And God using a teaching pattern, 1914-1919, to REPEAT it for the final pattern, is, imo, the best way to allow this teaching to become easily perceived by anyone, come the time God opens the eyes of many, based on the first anointed Christian ministry of our time. We are just reviving it for the final cycle.
And we need not get stuck on minutia disagreements eher and there, BUT we need to keep the FOUNDATION of the FIRST CYCLE, because it is a true witness, and it si the basis of the second true witness, and that is WHY THERE ARE TWO WITNESSES!!!! THEY REPLICATE, THE LAST ONE REPEATS (REV10:11), THE FIRST ONE, SAME MESSAGE, BUT AT COMPLETION!
Let us know when you have your testimony available. In the meantime let unity be the goal in the things many others are seeking to uproot in that first ministry, similar things need to be stated in the final cycle, except BETHEL’S APOSTASY is the central pronouncement in that portion of the repeat of Revelation 8-9 concerning why the temple judgment was required.
Plus it tests us to see if we are candid and honest and aware enough to call our own house of anointed on our own sins, like Daniel in Daniel 9:1-9. We have to realize, the anointed Christian house is in RECORD LEVELS of disarray and wandering. Bethel has aided this, and it is going to get worse. Like Jesus said:
(Matthew 24:24-25) For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned you.
Bethel aids that work. But we take the warning deep and serious, Bethel is the main culprit working AGAINST anointed now.
And Bethel apostasy is just part of the final announcement required to come out fully, human world government is a primary entity to track, and the Messianic Kingdom completion occurs in tangent with that world government completion as the final cycle winds down. Hence why God will create a recovery as per Rev9-11:1-7 in final fulfillment..
The Messianic Kingdom completion in all anointed (Rev14:1, Rev7:1-4, 1Thess4:17, Matt24:31), is the most important import of that final cycle. Just as the first cycle announced Kingdom birth, in time, and God’s Kingdom all along, the final “two witnesses” second witnessing announces the arrival of God and Christ, to complete the Messianic Kingdom completion fully, in the 8th King face, as per Psalm 110.
But of course its going to get much clearer once Bethel is tossed fully, and exposed, by God as their apostasy runs the course, and it will get worse for a while in JWs, they do get a climax period in that Daniel 8:13 “trampling”, God and Christ do not arrive into the temple immediately, accounting and discipline also is occurring upon anointed and the purification to come when that passes, and no evil “man of lawlessness” will be lift “in the temple” when God and Christ arrive for the recovery, arrive into the temple, not for the end yet, because a final proclamation has to go forth as per Rev10:11.
But it will get clearer in time dependent not on man, but on God, and he will REAFFIRM the first witness in the second witnessing of the “two witnesses”. It is actually logical why it has to have happened twice.
Just be patient and keep praying and staying awake. Bethel will be the “epicenter” of that final cycle starting, not ending, and that is why they sell those events as “the end” to JWs, to cover their exit tracks, and leave JWs in a deep smoking hoax for a while. In time JWs will need a full wake up call, and we can aid the explanation, God willing. JWs are totally off course and misled, it is what it is. Its like a flock of Geese flying way up in the sky following 8 GB geese the wrong way, a few follow then they all just flock to where everyone else seems to be going lime they know where they are going. Problem is those “geese” are a bunch of liars and UN aligned drunks, and by now they have to KNOW what they are doing, misleading JWs to a trap.
Q: Do you read Robert King’s blogs and videos? He is also a prophet on Bethel apostasy.
But true, Robert King exposes the apostasy of Bethel from way back. We need to connect that apostasy to prophecy.
OF COURSE an apostasy of such significance in the last point of former anointed Christian developmental truth IS GOING TO BE EXPLICITLY DESCRIBED IN THE PROPHECY!
OF COURSE ALL FOUR UN STEPS TO WORLD GOVERNMENT ARE GOING TO BE IN PROPHECY, NOT JUST THE FIRST TWO! as well.
But since Robert King also discredits the primary ministry and primary cycle of 1914-1919, it seems the prophecy of the apostasy alludes him.
BUT the very prophecy Bethel conceals in Daniel 8:11-14, 23-25 and Daniel 11:27-45 with PROVEN fictions is EXACTLY where the prophecy that foretells the apostasy as a CO-DEVELOPMENT with that 3rd UN placement of 1990, that BETHEL ALSO SUBVERTS AS UN NGO.
Bethell conceals the very prophecy that foretells their apostasy, while they fulfill it, go figure!
But know this, like the WW1 cycle, the final cycle will seem like the end of the world. Just as to the 1914 peoples the “Great War” seemed like it would never end, it did end, and it ended into a world government foundational presentation.
The final cycle coming up will do THE EXACT SAME THING.
The “death stroke” is one of perception:
(Revelation 13:3) And I saw one of its heads AS THOUGH slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.
All they have to do, as in WW1, is make “the end” appear AS THOUGH it is certain. But as in WW1, the “death stroke” was not so bad, but it was enough of a “problem” in perception and tribulation events, that the League of Nations “solution” was a great relief.
Thus the “all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration” is part of that “problem” to “solution” formula. They “cause a desolation” so severe and so seemingly hopeless, that when it does come time for them to “heal” the system, the system is begging by that time for the “solution”.
And thus the sucker’s bait of how they present world government as admirable , is to also present the big solution at the proper time, when the tribulation cycle has run its “problem” course fully.
In fact, after WW2, they used it again:
(Revelation 17:8) And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly. . .
Same thing, the League of Nations going “down” as impotent, gave “rise” to the UN, to also be “admired” as the world peace heroes; yet their elites are who engineer the whole “causes desolation” development, and it ALL serves their purpose.
After the unique Cold WW3 (Dan11:29), they did the same thing! (Daniel 11:31b, Dan8:23a), and that is how we know it will repeat a fourth time.
And the point is, the “recovery” and “healing” principle of Revelation 13:3, and the “abyss ascension” of Revelation 17:8-11, WILL REPEAT AS A WHOLE IN THIS FINAL CYCLE.
Not only will their be another “sword stroke”, there will be another UN impotence imo, and then they can come out of the “tribulation of those days” as the “causes desolation” “abyss”, and offer the final healing, and as in WW1, WW2 and Cold WW3, the world will admire it, again, it is a formula as well as a repeating cycle.
Thus the prophecy that foretells it all, also repeats.
And this is why they want to sell this final cycle “as though” it is “the end of the world”, and Bethel now FULLY aids this delusion, because it aids the final cycle recovery and “sword stroke got healed”, and missing this principle, as King does, is not a good thing.
In reality 1914-1919 is the main pattern and most important cycle because it contains all the main formulaic principles and final entities they will complete in the final cycle, by use of the same formula.
And this is why the Bethel “the end” is designed to fail, and attempt to discredit the whole prophecy.
Do not be fooled. 1914-1919 is the main pattern, and it will repeat, and this time world government is what they will be “following with admiration”.