Temple Judgment “Evening” Desolation and “Morning” Recovery Phases for the Recovery of Many Affected by Bethel’s “Lawless One”

Temple Judgment “Evening” Desolation and “Morning” Recovery Phases for the Recovery of Many Affected by Bethel’s “Lawless One”

Ray Franz’s book Crisis of Conscience is very telling and what is sad he gave up the heavenly calling in the end. I talked to someone month ago who sad he stopped partaking in the Lord’s Last Meal years before he died. He felt it had been made filthy and a mockery maybe. No one is out there helping these guys hold on to the spirituality. We need spiritual leaders for exJW so they continue to grow spiritually. Ray was wise by experience but no one to help him through it. I really regret not being able to encourage those who early on left Bethel.

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Yes, many trials were actually at work at that time, lump-summed for JWs as “condemned apostates”, what a criminal false judgment by what was actually the Governing Body spiritual tyranny just getting started at “lifting himself over everyone” in that dictatorial modern “young man of lawlessness” “body”. We cannot know all the early 70s and 80s intrigues of this first “man of lawlessness” strike upon some Bethel anointed Christians. We cannot know all the trials that actually transpired, as few realized the evil that was forming by that GB coup of 1976.

So it has been Daniel 11:32-35 preparing then, and now manifesting fully this whole time, because:

1. This has been progressing from before the GB took the coup, into it, and after, so the “lead into apostasy” means that it takes time, so even since the GB coup many have been stumbled, but also “refined” in that they will either get more faith in God, or it will affect them negatively.

2. This is now far worse than 1976-1990, because the GB “wormwood” has now inundated the whole JW congregational system, and MILLIONS are now stumbled to fully define this “they will certainly be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for [some] days” with that 1990 UN NGO marker of Daniel 11:31b, as a climax period of anointed Christian “restraint” full removal, that allowed this to become fully manifest now:

(Daniel 11:32-35) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But as regards the people who are knowing their God, they will prevail and act effectively. 33 And as regards those having insight among the people, they will impart understanding to the many. And they will certainly be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for [some] days. 34 But when they are made to stumble they will be helped with a little help; and many will certainly join themselves to them by means of smoothness. 35 And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed. (By the way Daniel 8:14 “time appointed” is what will put a total end to this lawless state “in the temple”. It can peak in the upcoming attack of Daniel 8:13 as well, BUT It cannot arise again once that full “time appointed” is expired, hence Daniel 8:14 “morning” and after.)

And that will get worse, it will climax in this anti-Bethel operation now maturing, when it hits for full coup attempt, to finish what the GB started in 1976 as its real purpose. That continues until the desolation “evening” phase runs, and eventually removes them and ends that permitted period of error (2Thess2:11-12), for that “time appointed” to end this permitted error in the course of Daniel 8:13-14.

Thus the GB overblown authority, and the elder channeling of that lawlessness, and the “Jehovah’s Witnesses” religious label, have altogether usurped the “faith of Jesus” (Rev14:12) which is not limited by a label, or humans or human contrived collective authority, which is actually from Satan (2Thess2:9; Zech3:1) and is for the SOLE PURPOSE of introducing justified “smooth word” sins, and “leading into apostasy’ the congregation, the exact opposite of what it claims to be doing the whole time!

But I feel God will restore the stumbled in time, like Peter’s rejection of Christ, God knows we break at times, but the comeback is stronger than the fall, and MASSIVE JUSTICE UPON BETHEL, will help heal the wounds:

(Zephaniah 3:18-20) “The ones grief-stricken in absence from [your] festal season I shall certainly gather together; absent from you they happened to be, because of bearing reproach on her account. 19 Here I am acting against all those afflicting you, at that time; and I will save her that is limping, and her that is dispersed I shall collect together. And I will set them as a praise and as a name in all the land of their shame. 20 At that time I shall bring you people in, even in the time of my collecting you together. For I shall make you people to be a name and a praise among all the peoples of the earth, when I gather back your captive ones before your eyes,” Jehovah has said.

Now that is a global statement in time “I shall make you people to be a name and a praise among all the peoples of the earth”, but it is also about MOL “The ones grief-stricken in absence from [your] festal season I shall certainly gather together; absent from you they happened to be, because of bearing reproach on her account”, the “reproach” is this modern lawlessness aided by Bethel scandal and expulsions of some JWs. Bethel is also part of “all those afflicting you”.

Thus the “land of their shame” is really the shame of Bethel reproach, for those with the sensitivity to see the bad joke they are and the laughing stock they make JWs, and the lawless cold things they are doing. THEY are the ones God has “disfellowshipped”, so no need to give them power as if they are some divine authority, they are a masquerading lie of 2Cor11:13-15, Rev2:2, 2Thess2:11-12, a secular “board” PLAYING God’s channel, and they are from, instead, the Devil himself.

(Matthew 13:38-39) …the weeds are the sons of the wicked one, 39 and the enemy that sowed them is the Devil.

(Zechariah 3:1) And he proceeded to show me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand in order to resist him.

(2 Thessalonians 2:9-10) But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved.

Not everyone “is perishing”, just those corrupted by this operation who do not repent (for repentance time will be fully given, it si the bigger purpose of the temple judgment), and the “weeds” who were sown in from the Devil, who never should have been among Jehovah’s witnesses anyways:

(Daniel 11:32b) But as regards the people who are knowing their God, they will prevail and act effectively.

Thus EVERYTHING in Jehovah’s witnesses ministry, in the “organization”, GB, rituals, myths, etc, has usurped the actual authority of the “body of the Christ” anointed Christians, and thus God and Christ are also trampled by this rogue and brazen, now full blown, serious transgression and lawlessness, “as Bethel policy”, and it is also corrupting the JWs to become ice cold zombies in the process of this progressive modern lawlessness:

(Matthew 24:11-12) And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.

Bethel is part of those “many false prophets will arise and mislead many” “from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves”:

(Acts 20:28-30) 28 Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son]. 29 I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.

ONLY ONE THING WILL NOW WAKE UP (Matt25:1-13) THIS JW MOTLEY CREW OF BETHEL PRODUCED MATURED APOSTASY SHARING ZOMBIES: THE TEMPLE JUDGMENT, the “cry arose in the [middle] of the night” wake up call, four blaring trumpets of temple judgment, that is what will be this JW judgment signal using Bethel as the globally visible epicenter.

AND, when God brings justice on those Bethel devils, it will be a disgrace for JWs, BUT it will be a long time coming JUSTICE for those “grief stricken” due to the Bethel siege (Zech12), starvation, and lawlessness.

(Zechariah 12:1-2) The word of Jehovah concerning Israel,” is the utterance of Jehovah, the One who is stretching out [the] heavens and laying the foundation of [the] earth and forming the spirit of man inside him. 2 “Here I am making Jerusalem a bowl [causing] reeling to all the peoples round about; and also against Judah he will come to be in the siege, [even] against Jerusalem.

That whole statement is “concerning ISRAEL”. So this “against Judah he will come to be in the siege, [even] against Jerusalem”, is “against Judah [ISRAEL] will come to be in the siege, [even] against Jerusalem”. So we see, this is actually a HUGE statement. Since when is Israel “in siege” against Jerusalem?

Since the Bethel/Israel rogues took over the “royal rule of the house of Israel”, just like Ahab and Jezebel, this is Bethel besieging anointed and JWs globally, and the bloodguilt they have incurred is what produces this final desolation decree on Bethel’s illegal “royal rule”:

(Hosea 1:4-7) 4 And Jehovah went on to say to him: “Call his name Jezreel, for yet a little while and I must hold an accounting for the acts of bloodshed of Jezreel against the house of Jehu, and I must cause the royal rule of the house of Israel to cease. 5 And it must occur in that day that I must break the bow of Israel in the low plain of Jezreel.” (“low plain” symbol of judgment) 6 And she proceeded to become pregnant another time and to give birth to a daughter. (the completion ministry) And He went on to say to him: “Call her name Lo-ruhamah, for I shall no more show mercy again to the house of Israel, because I shall positively take them away. 7 But to the house of Judah I shall show mercy, and I will save them by Jehovah their God; but I shall not save them by a bow or by a sword or by war, by horses or by horsemen.”

“”During the latter half of the tenth century B.C.E., Jezreel served as the royal residence for Israel’s King Ahab””

So this “I must cause the royal rule of the house of Israel to cease”, is modern Bethel and their coming accounting desolation of the JW organization “established place” (Dan8:11), now overrun (Dan11:32a, Dan8:12), just like ancient Israel under Ahab and Jezebel usurpation in principle, with a modern ILLEGAL “royal rule”, self placed at Bethel to affect similar crimes.

(Revelation 2:20-23) “‘Nevertheless, I do hold [this] against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and misleads my slaves to commit fornication and to eat things sacrificed to idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent, but she is not willing to repent of her fornication. 22 Look! I am about to throw her into a sickbed, and those committing adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds. 23 And her children I will kill with deadly plague, so that all the congregations will know that I am he who searches the kidneys and hearts, and I will give to you individually according to your deeds.

And the revelation of Jeze-Bethel “mother organization” scandal and UN NGO is that “I gave her time to repent, but she is not willing to repent of her fornication”, so this “so that all the congregations will know that I am he who searches the kidneys and hearts, and I will give to you individually according to your deeds” of inspection, is this now complete or completing in the modern anointed and JW “temple inspection”:

(Zechariah 3:1-3) And he proceeded to show me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand in order to resist him. 2 Then [the angel of] Jehovah said to Satan: “Jehovah rebuke you, O Satan, yes, Jehovah rebuke you, he who is choosing Jerusalem! Is this one not a log snatched out of the fire?” 3 Now as for Joshua, he happened to be clothed in befouled garments and standing before the angel. 

And so Christ’s FIRST COMMENDATION is also in refrenence to the very condition at bethel, that JWs are not testing, except for some fled (Matt24:15) individuals:

(Revelation 2:1-2) “To the angel of the congregation in Ephesus write: These are the things that he says who holds the seven stars in his right hand, he who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands, 2 ‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars.

So that Zechariah 12:1-2 besieging “Israel” is now a symbol of this illegal “house” up at “Bethel”, composed of defective anointed that led to full infiltration (Dan11:30-32), that will be terminated in the temple judgment: “for I shall no more show mercy again to the house of Israel, because I shall positively take them away.” BUT Christians in global “Judah”, the whole broadcast of JWs and other Christians in the whole “Jerusalem” greater territory, a global JW symbol, WILL BE DELIVERED:

“But to the house of Judah I shall show mercy, and I will save them by Jehovah their God; but I shall not save them by a bow or by a sword or by war, by horses or by horsemen.”

And that “I shall not save them by a bow or by a sword or by war, by horses or by horsemen”, but by angelic power, is the Destroyer reference from the time he came on the 185000 Assyrians as Hosea 1:7 first fulfillment, who is now the temple judgment Destroyer with the “keys of the abyss” (Rev9:1-4), who will also deliver JWs in this overall anti-JW global-attack “evening”, “abyss darkness”, phase AFTER it runs its full course. (Dan8:14)

At that time JWs approvable, and repenting, waking up, and so on, will be delivered to be able to provide the final warning; this is not the total end deliverance, but the Zechariah 3:2 deliverance; because if God and Christ did not step in on this anti-JW operation, JWs would be toast as well as the JW org.

This is “Bethel”, a symbol of that judgment epicenter, and the one coming:

(Hosea 10:15) In this way one will certainly do to you people, O Bethel, because of your extreme badness. In the dawn the king of Israel will positively have to be silenced.”

And that “dawn” ends the Daniel 8:14 “evening” desolation phase by which time Bethel will be fully “trampled”:

(Hosea 6:1-3) “Come, you people, and do let us return to Jehovah, for he himself has torn in pieces but he will heal us. He kept striking, but he will bind us up. 2 He will make us alive after two days. On the third day he will make us get up, and we shall live before him. 3 And we will know, we will pursue to know Jehovah. Like dawn, his going forth is firmly established. And he will come in like a pouring rain to us; like a spring rain that saturates [the] earth.”

Thus in that approximate third year ending, for the 1150 days of Daniel 8:14 “evening”, the ” On the third day he will make us get up, and we shall live before him. 3 And we will know, we will pursue to know Jehovah.” and that “dawn” of the “morning phase recovery is this ” Like dawn, his going forth is firmly established.” Though it is timed 1150 days of that first dual phase “evening” of  “2300” “evenings” and “mornings”, that “the thing seen concerning THE evening and THE morning, which has been said, it is true” is the dual phasing of the temple judgment. So by the Hosea hint “He will make us alive after two days”, is that after two years there will start to be signs of recovery, not complete until that three year “sign of Jonah” “in the abyss” is complete.

Christ, that Destroyer, Apollyon and Abaddon in comprehensive Greek and Hebrew symbol, is who brings in the “morning” phase, by covert divine intervention, after the 3 years of “the evening” has expired..

The Destroyer, “the angel of Jehovah was standing by”, is who is involved in removing the filth inside of Bethel:

(Zechariah 3:4-5) Then he answered and said to those standing before him: “Remove the befouled garments from upon him.” And he went on to say to him: “See, I have caused your error to pass away from upon you, and there is a clothing of you with robes of state.” 5 At that I said: “Let them put a clean turban upon his head.” And they proceeded to put the clean turban upon his head and to clothe him with garments; and the angel of Jehovah was standing by.

And this visitation, is the same time period to end the desolation period:

(Malachi 3:1) “Look! I am sending my messenger, and he must clear up a way before me. And suddenly there will come to His temple the [true] Lord, whom you people are seeking, and the messenger of the covenant in whom you are delighting. Look! He will certainly come,” Jehovah of armies has said.

And that Destroyer, in Greek and Hebrew, comprehensive of gentiles and spiritual Jews under temple judgment and recovery deliverance (or neutralizations), is the same “messenger of the covenant”, that comes to the temple, when the accounting is complete in that Daniel 8:14 “evening”, to clean the place up:

(Malachi 3:2-4) “But who will be putting up with the day of his coming, and who will be the one standing when he appears? For he will be like the fire of a refiner and like the lye of laundrymen. 3 And he must sit as a refiner and cleanser of silver and must cleanse the sons of Levi; and he must clarify them like gold and like silver, and they will certainly become to Jehovah people presenting a gift offering in righteousness. 4 And the gift offering of Judah and of Jerusalem will actually be gratifying to Jehovah, as in the days of long ago and as in the years of antiquity.

This “COME NEAR to you people for the judgment”, is the approach, the nearness of global judgment, that the JW judgment will foreshadow:

(Malachi 3:5) “And I will come near to you people for the judgment, and I will become a speedy witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against those swearing falsely, and against those acting fraudulently with the wages of a wage worker, with [the] widow and with [the] fatherless boy, and those turning away the alien resident, while they have not feared me,” Jehovah of armies has said.

(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God. Now if it starts first with us, what will the end be of those who are not obedient to the good news of God? 

Thus that is when:

(2 Thessalonians 2:8) Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence.

Because in Malachi 3:1, Christ is “present” “in the temple” first, well before the total end for the purpose of forming and deploying the final full warning first, to result from this temple judgment purification. The “doing away” is their removal from the anointed Christian ministry to end that “evening” total darkness phase of the temple judgment “abyss”. That “lawless one will be revealed” is in the second and third trumpet Bethel profanation and profaners revealed as the “burning mountain”, the 8th King “mountain” doom, has the Bethel “burning mountain” precursor judgment:

(Isaiah 13:1-2) The pronouncement against Babylon that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw in vision: 2 “Upon a mountain of bare rocks raise up a signal, you men. Lift up the voice to them, wave the hand, that they may come into the entrances of the nobles.

The burned out “mountain bare rocks” is Bethel’s desolation as a SIGNAL warning to “Babylon” “nobles”, for “head of  gold” “Babylon”, as in Isaiah 14, and Habakkuk “Chaldeans”, also a globalist symbol—and Bethel’s King North purge from INSIDE the ministry (Dan11:32a), in that by then fully notable Daniel 11:41 “invasion” and Daniel 8:11 “throw down the established place” “of the sanctuary”, will be a dire signal to 8th King system ops, not their end, but their notification of temple removal.

(Isaiah 66:6) There is a sound of uproar out of the city, a sound out of the temple! It is the sound of Jehovah repaying what is deserved to his enemies.

And as here they are hunted down in time to the end:

(Amos 9:1-5) 9 I saw Jehovah stationed above the altar, and he proceeded to say: “Strike the pillar head, so that the thresholds will rock. And cut them off at the head, all of them. And the last part of them I shall kill with the sword itself. No one fleeing of them will make good his flight, and no one escaping of them will make his getaway. 2 If they dig down into Sheol, from there my own hand will take them; and if they go up to the heavens, from there I shall bring them down. 3 And if they hide themselves on the top of Carmel, from there I shall carefully search and be certain to take them. And if they conceal themselves from in front of my eyes on the floor of the sea, down there I shall command the serpent, and it must bite them. 4 And if they go into captivity before their enemies, from there I shall command the sword, and it must kill them; and I will set my eyes upon them for bad, and not for good. 5 And the Sovereign Lord, Jehovah of the armies, is the One touching the land, so that it melts; and all the inhabitants in it will have to mourn; and it will certainly come up like the Nile, all of it, and sink down like the Nile of Egypt.

So that can apply to the prelude Bethel temple judgment purge by God, and to the final world judgment purge later, which Bethel judgment will foreshadow as a global warning signal. The “Strike the pillar head, so that the thresholds will rock” can be the temple judgment in principle, but in final form it is the “crown stone” pilaster of the 8th King world government total climax defiant symbol that will be struck in fullest form.

And it too is phased like that 1.” cut them off at the head, all of them”. And 2: “and the last part of them I shall kill with the sword itself”. As both Bethel and the 8th King, when hit in their respective timings and judgment’s, will have a drawn out finale, it does not just resolve immediately as per Revelation 8-11:1-7 temple judgment, (purge), recovery and final warning, or in Revelation 14 whole final sequence, the enemies are hunted down, one way or another, to the last man.

Now depending on which judgment it is, temple judgment or final judgment, it is the same principle, not every last enemy is literally killed all at once. Some KN elements in Bethel will flee out to KN locales, but they will not escape indefinitely, anything fled successfully, and left over in time, goes down in the final global judgment goat sweep, after all the sheep are also secured. So we are talking real global-scale processes according to real and perfect divine strategy, that take time, and provide events “sheep” and “sheep to be” can use to clue them in fully to fully be for the Messianic Kingdom; “to be regarded in that day with wonder” by these drawn out events, global in sweep and assessing every human of earth in scope.

But the point is the judgment on Bethel has patterns and principles that will apply to the world judgment. And as the temple judgment manifests first, it gives warning years of what it means for the whole world.

Hence, it asks that question we looked at above:

(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God. Now if it starts first with us, what will the end be of those who are not obedient to the good news of God?

And that JW judgment is why it will present the question to as many paying attention: “Now if it starts first with us, what will the end be of those who are not obedient to the good news of God?”, and people can then use the JW judgment to also assess their own need to ALSO repent, for the JW judgment, will be a signal of the Malachi 4 total world judgment, that will come some years later.

JWs already have the “seven trumpet” and “plague” gauging, and the Daniel 8:14 and Daniel12 general period timings, by then becoming known to repeat in final form, to then be able to assess where they REALLY are in relation to that total judgment.

That final judgment sequence is to be triggered only AFTER the 8th King is also completed in world government. Thus many global developments to proceed after the JW judgment signal, will all serve as convincing evidence, of live prophecy fulfilling in everyone’s’ faces, and that is is leading where it says it is leading—because all the first cycle WW1 entities, will again be in global action, the 8th King, and Christ to complete the Messianic Kingdom.

(Thus justice at this scale, to desolate lawless Bethel, can heal the wounds of many, which that lack of justice now, on rampant Bethel, has been pouring salt upon, adding insult to injury. That allows a psychological recovery for a spiritual recovery, when people see God has acted on lawless Bethel, and it will be notable and become notorious what was actually INSIDE of Bethel, being neutralized by angels, come the climax of the desolation.)

And please note the Assyrian principle will be applicable at that time. Just as the Assyrians did receive Israel to desolate and capture, they also tried to OVER STEP the judgment decree:

(Isaiah 36:10) And now is it without authorization from Jehovah that I have come up against this land to bring it to ruin? Jehovah himself said to me, ‘Go up against this land, and you must bring it to ruin.’”

See, as per Hosea 1:4-7, Jehovah did give Israel into Assyria’s hand, but he DID NOT GIVE Jerusalem into Assyrian hand, as in Hosea 1:4-7, Isa31:8-9, Mic5:5-6 and:

(Isaiah 37:33) “‘Therefore this is what Jehovah has said concerning the king of Assyria: “He will not come into this city, nor will he shoot an arrow there, nor confront it with a shield, nor cast up a siege rampart against it.”’

And THE SAME THING, WILL THE KN/8TH KING OPS ALSO TRY ON JWS. They have the illegal “Israel” Bethel component judgment on the illegal idol “organization”, like Isaiah 36:10 THEY KNOW THAT JUDGMENT IS GIVEN TO THEM, THEY KNOW WHAT DANIEL 8:13 MEANS, but they WILL ALSO TRY TO GO OUT TO “JUDAH”, GLOBAL JW DISPERSAL, AND THEY, like Assyria, WILL ALSO TRY TO TERMINATE AND CAPTURE ALL JWS SCATTERED ABOUT. (Zech13:7)

THAT is when they too, like Assyria, will meet the Destroyer “in the middle of the night”, Christ and angels, in the same covert principle as that that came upon the Assyrian 185000, to stop them and kick them out, not destroy the nation or its king, will also come upon the key 8th King anti-global-JW operations. THAT is why here “the sun retrace backward ten steps”, is that 8th King “sun” DELAY an set back, by divine means:

(Isaiah 38:8) Here I am making the shadow of the steps that had gone down on the steps [of the stairs] of Ahaz by the sun retrace backward ten steps.”’” And the sun gradually went back ten steps on the steps [of the stairs] that it had gone down.

That ensures the “fourteen years”, as a symbol of recovery for Hezekiah, will now come to secure the recovery and final warning, to be deployed if Gabriel and Michael have to kill 185000 8th King ops, that “little scroll”, final warning, two witnesses finale, WILL GO FORTH AS FORETOLD, and like demons involved at Bethel now and with the 8th King globally, angels of God will also come forth to secure the final warning period, as per prophecy. THAT is why the Destroyer is ONLY MICHAEL, the Christ, the “angel of the covenant”, when Revelation 9 recovery, honors the same principle, EXACTLY, as its preview fulfillment counterpart. But it will not be the 1290 days, is will be leading to at some time, the 1260 day final warning days.

This is very important, it is because God starts this cycle, with Daniel 8:13-14 timing, phasing and temple judgment “right condition” required full purification meaning, as Revelation 8’s temple judgment “desolation” “evening” parallel, to clean out the “1/3” profanations (Rev8:10-11), affecting “1/3” of JWs (Rev8:7-9), for “1/3” of illegal GB-1976 tenure in the JW ministry, literally, (Rev8:12) since 1914. Those are “1/3” symbology, but it is a severe profanation and corrupting effect, and the judgment will likewise be commensurate with the level of Bethel sin.

THAT Daniel 8:13-14 first requirement, will throw off many premature 1260 day appliers out there, to forecast the 1260 days TOO SOON. VERY IMPORTANT: PAY ATTENTION TO DANIEL 8:14 TIMING, IT WILL PROVE ITSELF. DO NOT GET THROWN OFF BY THE PREMATURE 1260 DAY CLAIMS OF SOME.

This is because the whole purity and clarified “little scroll”, to the full, defending and assimilating all former anointed Christian truth from 1914, as valid and a valid prophecy, invitation and warning, will take time, God, Christ, angels, and a new surge of holy spirit, as Joel is this recovery.

The “locusts” are anointed Christians who desolate the Bethel lies, after they go down, for like Christendom before them, lawless Bethel will be exposed globally, to the full, of the apostate and impostor pollutants they were.

(Joel 2:11) And Jehovah himself will certainly give forth his voice before his military force, for his camp is very numerous. For he who is carrying out his word is mighty; for the day of Jehovah is great and very fear-inspiring, and who can hold up under it?”

OBVIOUSLY Jehovah is not “giving his voice” to 8th King desolaters, but to anointed locust desolaters of the Bethel spiritual remains.

(Revelation 9:4) And they were told to harm no vegetation of the earth nor any green thing nor any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.

Those are NOT non-anointed of the world, those are anointed frauds and “five foolish virgins”, “weeds” “ALL the green vegetation was burned up”, removed (Rev8:7b), in the then desolated Bethel system— “men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads”, but who claim or claimed they do —as they are scattered globally as purged from the temple anointed, as they are the “weeds” bundled in “bundles” prior to the very end. (Matt22:1-14)

(Matthew 13:30) FIRST collect the weeds and bind them in bundles (plural) to burn them up, then go to gathering the wheat into my storehouse.’”

They do not burn them all up as in destroyed at that time, they are “bundled” for that purpose, that comes at the total end of “the system of things”. Bethel system is that “A system of things” that pictures the end of “THE system of things”

(Matthew 13:39-40) The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things (Bethel’s now lawless system and that first phase of the JW ministry, from valid to apostate, a clearly complete ministerial cycle), and the reapers are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things.

“so it will be in”, it pictures, it is not yet, “the conclusion of the system of things”. Bethel’s downfall will be a useful signal to ID the prophecy that will be fully active at that time, beyond the signal apostasy, in its foretold judgment as well.

And all that Joel 2 locust activity, which we already do have the accurate meaning of, is for this “Bridegroom” arrival purpose:

(Joel 2:15-16) “Blow a horn in Zion (Rev8,9 trumpets), O men. Sanctify a time of fasting. Call together a solemn assembly. 16 Gather [the] people together. Sanctify a congregation. Collect [the] old men together. Gather children and those sucking the breasts together. Let [the] bridegroom go forth from his interior room, and [the] bride from her nuptial chamber. (Matt25:1-13)

Thus the “bride” symbol, incomplete at that time, also comes forth with anointed spirits, who will be part of that arrival, they are the “eagle” symbol here:

(Revelation 8:13) And I saw, and I heard an eagle flying in midheaven say with a loud voice: “Woe, woe, woe to those dwelling on the earth because of the rest of the trumpet blasts of the three angels who are about to blow their trumpets!”

Christ as just aligning the “five wise virgins” for the completion of the “bride” who has also gone forth from the heavenly “nuptial chamber”, for this notification:

(Revelation 19:6-8) And I heard what was as a voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders. They said: “Praise Jah, you people, because Jehovah our God, the Almighty, has begun to rule as king. 7 Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself. 8 Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones.”

Now OBVIOUSLY this “voice of a great crowd” is well before the total deliverance of the “great crowd” at Revelation 7, whose preceding anointed sealing is to be completing over the final warning commission being carried out, 1260 days, which has this proclamation in its “welcome the Bridegroom” announcement: “Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself” and this “Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones” is an overview the affirmation sealing that has just then completed, in this overview, for this purpose of the “five wise virgins” and the larger “two witnesses” all anointed, not just nodded off vets:

(Revelation 19:9) And he tells me: “Write: Happy are those invited to the evening meal of the Lamb’s marriage.”

..which is that “remaining ones of her seed” (Rev12:17) “we the living who are surviving” (1Thess4:17), plus earthlings “harvest of the earth” who are of course getting the “five discreet virgin” final “light”, to also be part of the earthly “welcoming committee”, to precede Christ’s arrival, as “remaining ones of her seed” are “gathered” (Matt24:31; Rev16:17; 1Thess4:17) to actually complete the “bride” from those anointed still alive, shortly after this Revelation 11:11-12, Matthew 24:29-31 parallel of Christ’s arrival:

(Revelation 19:11) And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness.

Which is this parallel:

(Zechariah 9:9) “Be very joyful, O daughter of Zion. Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem. Look! Your king himself comes to you.

Which came after this clean out of “my house”:

(Zechariah 9:8) And I will encamp as an outpost for my house, so that there will be no one passing through and no one returning; and there will no more pass through them a taskmaster, for now I have seen [it] with my eyes.

Which temple judgment purge, exposure and purification allowed the final warning to go forth, and invite and warn of all that BEFORE it all manifested globally, along with of course the rival 8th King also completing their final defiant activities of world government. Babylon the Great has to go down in the same “in that hour”, as the “one hour” of that complete global 8th King ruling and powerful entity. So we know why the “two witnesses” cessation is before BTG final judgment, as world government is “ascending from abyss” of Revelation 11:7.

And thus the “two witnesses” proclamation was indeed leading to the parallel Christ arrival meaning of Revelation 11:11-12, after that final segway to Christ “three and a half days” “death” state, just after the 1260 days has expired, is the final symbolic period of time to expire, for living anointed, to know Christ shows up shortly after that final warning is ceased, in this exact parallel “removed”:

(Daniel 12:11) “And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation, there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

And that final “placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation” is also 8th King world government, on how we know Christ arrives while the 1290 days are shortly active in those two criteria, which “remove the constant feature” was the “two witnesses” cessation, that started that final “three and a half day” segway to Christ, that has to converge into Daniel 12:11.

So we know Revelation 19:11-21 is in Daniel 12:11, as is Revelation 14 whole final sequence which is starting when all 144000 are completed, hence after the “two witnesses” are “stand up their feet” and “come on up here” to heaven. So the “stand upon their feet” is a miraculous earthly manifestation of that:

(Matthew 13:43) At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen.

Which is where the weed removal of the temple judgment was leading. “Let him that has ears listen” for it is a “sacred secret” that living anointed are “changed in the twinkling of an eye”, on earth “stood upon their feet”, to aid Christ then in all spirit form, to help secure earth sheep, who buy that time of post 144000 completion, are only earth “sheep” the “least of these my brothers”, are also earthling brothers, of former anointed, Christ’s brothers, thus Christ is also their brother in principle.

(Matthew 25:31-32) 31 “When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

That “sit down on his glorious throne”, has to be the Messianic Kingdom “King of kings” final throne meaning, so all 144000 are in Revelation 14:1-5, at that time, and it is an earthly sheep and goat assessment of final judgment carried out in detail at that time parallel of Revelation 14.

Open Salvation Message

Now obviously Christ is saving when in Messianic Kingdom power, saving first, through the whole 1290 days, like all the time periods leading up to that 1290 days, so that “Open Salvation” message, which many are now missing, of course has to be made known in detail. It needs to be made clear simply, and it needs to be made clear in all the prophecy coming together to prove it in detail as well.

ONLY respecting and preserving the original prophetic pattern in the foundational anointed Christian ministry that became Jehovah’s Christian witnesses since 1914-1919 IBSA marked period, and devolved, once again, into an apostasy and enemy infiltration, to REQUIRE PURIFICATION AGAIN, is how we know this repeats, and why it repeats, and provides us beforehand with how it repeats, BEFORE it repeats.

And that is why God “programmed” the prophecy with a notable, well known, if even doubted, PREVIEW cycle, because it is required to tie the whole final cycle, together properly. One cannot lambaste the 1914 anointed Christian ministry as “delusional” and “invalid”, and think God will open the final cycle truth for such a contrary message.

We respect the foundational truth, for programmed into its prophetic framework, is also the final cycle truth, now which can and will be known, fully, BEFORE and as and after it all manifests its final meanings. Plus the “Open Salvation Message” is actually enormous, of course God will not let that be derailed fully, and even if by persecution it is derailed some:

(Matthew 10:23) When they persecute you in one city, flee to another; for truly I say to you, you will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives.

When Christ arrives, he will be the final “means” to “complete the circuit of the cities of Israel”, which is implied in that prophecy, and in all divine fairness, with salvation as the goal, he will assess every human, and FIRST save those who can be recovered, by virtue of his purchase all the human “merchandise” will be received:

(Romans 2:12-16) For instance, all those who sinned without law will also perish without law; but all those who sinned under law will be judged by law. 13 For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. 14 For whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15 They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or even excused. 16 This will be in the day when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare.

(1 Corinthians 4:5) Hence do not judge anything before the due time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring the secret things of darkness to light and make the counsels of the hearts manifest, and then each one will have his praise come to him from God.

And that is why these final “sheep” have not even read Matthew 25, so as to already know about this situation, they define as total newbie sheep:

(Matthew 25:34-40) “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world. 35 For I became hungry and you gave me something to eat; I got thirsty and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you received me hospitably; 36 naked, and you clothed me. I fell sick and you looked after me. I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty, and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked, and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to you?’ 40 And in reply the king will say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, To the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’

And that “Kingdom” is this earthly inclusive “Kingdom of the World”, now lost in Adamic sin, but to “become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ”:

(Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”

Which must have an earthly counterpart:

(Psalm 45:16) In place of your forefathers there will come to be your sons (of the Eternal father Christ), Whom you will appoint as princes in all the earth.

Which is this all inclusive “administration” for the purpose of also gathering all things on the earth:

(Ephesians 1:8-10) This he caused to abound toward us in all wisdom and good sense, 9 in that he made known to us the sacred secret of his will. It is according to his good pleasure which he purposed in himself 10 for an administration at the full limit of the appointed times, namely, to gather all things together again in the Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth.

So that “administration”, like the “kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ”, is the full Messianic Kingdom AND its earthly whole “Kingdom of the World” to be a “gathered” totality, over the 1000 year reign, to recover all the dead, including the animals, …

(Ezekiel 47:9) …and everything will be alive where the torrent comes.

(Ezekiel 47:9) And it must occur that every living soul that swarms, in every place to which the double-size torrent comes, will get life. And it must occur that there will be very many fish, because there is where this water will certainly come, and the [seawater] will be healed, and EVERYTHING WILL BE ALIVE where the torrent comes.

…who are ALSO in “Sheol” (Ecc3:18-20; Ecc9:10; Ecc 3:21), to life restoration and everlasting protection now under “last Adam”, who though he was a perfect man, is now that authoritative “life giving spirit”, so no sub-Adamic abuses will be permitted, through that “last Adam”.

Thus this blessing is renewed:

(Genesis 1:26-28) And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.” 27 And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. 28 Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.”

Rather than Jehovah pulling the whole rug from under Jehovah’s witnesses feet, as some try to imply is the case, as if the whole ministry is invalid, instead God will use the current profaned JW context, to sanctify his own name, in their midst, to make it clear WHY JWs were desolated, to aid explaining the whole prophecy later, that will have begun with the temple judgment.

There is no benefit for God to simply toss the whole baby with the dirty bathwater, to undermine the truthful sovereign theme of the whole 1914-1919, WW1 period manifestation of the 7th King and 8th King designate and “image” CO-DEVELOPMENT with what in time was also a clear Kingdom of God development to also co-develop and make news of that truth, as ALL OF IT proceeds in actual co-development, now reaching their final cycle convergence to the necessary full co-completions: 8th King world government and then the Messianic Kingdom.

Instead God can bring the judgment on JWs, to clear His own name among them, and to identify the Bethel MOL profanation source, and its final prophetic sequence it is really starting, at the same time as the JW judgment runs and recovers:

(Ezekiel 36:22-28) “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Not for your sakes am I doing [it], O house of Israel, but for my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have come in.”’ 23 ‘And I shall certainly sanctify my great name, which was being profaned among the nations, which you profaned in the midst of them; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘when I am sanctified among you before their eyes. 24 And I will take you out of the nations and collect you together out of all the lands and bring you in upon your soil. 25 And I will sprinkle upon you clean water, and you will become clean; from all your impurities and from all your dungy idols I shall cleanse you. 26 And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I shall put inside you, and I will take away the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And my spirit I shall put inside you, and I will act so that in my regulations you will walk, and my judicial decisions you will keep and actually carry out. 28 And you will certainly dwell in the land that I gave to your forefathers, and you must become my people and I myself shall become your God.’
(Ezekiel 36:29) “‘And I will save you from all your impurities and call to the grain and make it abound, and I shall put upon you no famine. 
(Zechariah 3:9) I will take away the error of that land in one day.’

(Ezekiel 36:30-32) And I shall certainly make the fruitage of the tree abound, and the produce of the field, in order that you may no more receive among the nations the reproach of famine. 31 And you will be bound to remember your bad ways and your dealings that were not good, and you will be bound to feel a loathing at your own person on account of your errors and on account of your detestable things. 32 Not for your sakes am I doing [this],’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘let it be known to you. Be ashamed and feel humiliation because of your ways, O house of Israel.’

That creates the “sackcloth” attitude, after the temple judgment desolation phase, but before the, and for the, recovery and final warning phase (Rev11:3), when it all gets clear to recovered JWs and others scattered about…

(Revelation 11:3) And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.”

…and it puts that temple judgment and its purification in the context of where it belongs, so that the whole thing, valid first ministry to actual full blown UN serving apostasy, is explained in the proper prophetic context, which can prove at that time that it is all indeed repeating in a final fulfillment cycle, along with the globalist 8th King final completion cycle running as well.

Revelation 8 temple judgment parallel will provide the temple judgment events on visible Bethel and JWs, which is actually the anointed Christian component which is obviously invisible to human eyes, so that visible epicenter provides the context for the final explanation. Revelation 9 emergence of the recovered anointed ministry, prior to full commission, is when the news of the previous 4 trumpets creates that “Be ashamed and feel humiliation because of your ways, O house of Israel” so that the final proper mental attitude is created to carry out the final warning properly.

So by the time the “little scroll” total completion commission in the completion of the “good news” summary of it all goes forth, the whole proper attitude and clarification will be complete:

(Revelation 10:5-7) And the angel that I saw standing on the sea and on the earth raised his right hand to heaven, 6 and by the One who lives forever and ever, who created the heaven and the things in it and the earth and the things in it and the sea and the things in it, he swore: “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

The final commission is then given:

(Revelation 10:8-10) And the voice that I heard out of heaven is speaking again with me and saying: “Go, take the opened scroll that is in the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the earth.” 9 And I went away to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll. And he said to me: “Take it and eat it up, and it will make your belly bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey.” 10 And I took the little scroll out of the hand of the angel and ate it up, and in my mouth it was sweet as honey; but when I had eaten it up, my belly was made bitter.

And Revelation 11:1-7, where this is leading, occurs again:

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

And by that time of the required admission of those who went through this temple judgment to approval, the whole thing will then be explainable, because the Bethel and JW UN NGO apostate component has to be revealed as what it was covering up is also reconnected to the former valid framework, truncated by the apostates at Bethel.

Now those who are severely stumbled by this fresh events in the JW org total downfall to some notable, if not total degree, we do not know, can also be aided to full awareness and repentance, because this final 1260 days, and the “morning” recovery that leads to it, will take time, with the purpose of helping people connect big global events, such as Bethel’s downfall and KN source, with active prophecy.

So the goal of God is repentance and recovery in an explanation so complete, even newbies can come to appreciate the truth of both “witnesses” cycles, as the final cycle reaffirms the first, but rather than end up at the League of Nations “solution” through another global-“problem”, this one runs the global “tribulation of those days” phase global-problem, for the whole world government global-solution. It is the same pattern, but this time all the culminations fully mature and complete.

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years, hence why the JW temple judgment produces a known global judgment to aid the explanatory process BEFORE it all converges to full blown “Armageddon” by 8th King final completion.

Temple Judgment Portent “Exhausted” Daniel

Hence Daniel 8:13-14 proceeds first with verification timing, phasing and great meaning.

(Daniel 8:13-14) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on?” 14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.”


Timed Temple Judgment Period

(Daniel 8:14) So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.” (Temple purification completed in this time period parallel Zechariah 3:4-5, Revelation 8:1-5);

Temple Indictment as UN NGO “Transgression” Related (Matt24:15);

(Daniel 8:13-14) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the (profaned) constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation (UN NGO alliance of Daniel 11:31b), to make both [the] holy place (temple “established place”; Dan8:11) and [the] (JW worldwide) army things to trample on?” (first 8th King “trampling” “attack” defining the spiritual meaning of the “tribulation of those days” beginning); 14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.” (Temple judgment purification completed in this timed period parallel Zechariah 3:4-5, Revelation 8:1-5);

And it was reaffirmed by Gabriel:

(Daniel 8:26) “And the thing seen concerning the evening and the morning, which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because it is yet for many days.”

Now that Daniel 8 prophecy, pretty much incapacitated Daniel:

(Daniel 8:27) And as for me, Daniel, I felt exhausted and was made sick for [some] days. Then I got up and did the work of the king; but I kept showing myself numbed on account of the thing seen, and there was nobody understanding [it].

Pay Attention to Daniel Prophecy; chap. 10 pp. 177-178 par. 26 Who Can Stand Against the Prince of Princes?

For “the holy place” to be “brought,” or restored, to what it should be, the 2,300 days must have begun when it previously was in the “right condition” from God’s standpoint. At the earliest, this was on June 1, 1938, when The Watchtower published part 1 of the article “Organization.” Part 2 appeared in the issue of June 15, 1938. Counting 2,300 days (6 years, 4 months, and 20 days on the Hebrew calendar) from June 1 or 15, 1938, brings us to October 8 or 22, 1944. On the first day of a special assembly held at Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., on September 30 and October 1, 1944, the Watch Tower Society’s president spoke on the subject “The Theocratic Alignment Today.” At the annual corporate meeting on October 2, the Society’s charter was amended in an effort to bring it as close to a theocratic arrangement as the law would allow. With the publication of clarified Biblical requirements, theocratic organization was soon more fully installed in the congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

(This 1999 dated attempted interpretation also waffles the timing from the 1958 Fred Franz interpretive attempt in the Your Will Be Done Daniel commentary of 1958. Even at that time of 1958, Fred Franz had doubts ” IF we accept this as fulfilling the prophecy…” (concerning Daniel 8:13-14), pg. 214, par. 44. This prophecy has not yet fulfilled, it will be the unique temple judgment.)

Obviously the “fulfillment” of Daniel 8:13-14 as “the Watch Tower Society’s president spoke on the subject “The Theocratic Alignment Today” and “at the annual corporate meeting… the Society’s charter was amended in an effort to bring it as close to a theocratic arrangement” is NOT a “temple” “right condition” development that was going to make Daniel “exhausted and sick for days” with the stress of the mere portents of the real meaning of that desolation and “trampling” prophecy!

Globally desolating Bethel and the JW organization, due to UN NGO “transgression CAUSING [such a] desolation”, would make Daniel “exhausted” by such a climax meaning, even if Daniel did not understand it, he knew it was a major prophecy. Further, Daniel had already just went through a temple desolation period upon Jerusalem, before he received this prophecy, so that added to the perplexity! So to have another temple “trampling” prophecy told to him, on top of that one he already witnessed, was quite perplexing and that is how we know this prophecy IS HUGE, and not yet fulfilled, and it will be all that Daniel “felt” it portended.

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Temple Judgment to World Government to Christ Arrival
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/temple-judgment-to-world-government-to-christ-arrival-revelation-11-and-daniel-12/

Daniel 8:13-14 Details the Coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/daniel-813-14-details-the-coming-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

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  1. I have to say Ray Franz in my view had a bad conscience rather than a crisis of conscience. I saw a video with him being interviewed in poland. He was wrong on two points. One the issue of blood. The Bible point blank says to abstain from blood and it means exactly that yet he feels it’s ok not to abstain from blood. And two he even after being anointed taught that all people go to heaven, wrong again.. After seeing that I could see why he was kicked out.. He is not exactly a poster boy to prove anything against the org.

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