On The Coming JW Organization Downfall: Why is Daniel 8:13-14 First and Timed?

On The Coming JW Organization Downfall: Why is Daniel 8:13-14 First and Timed?

We are gong into a change of world order from “king south” “old world order” nation-state rule to central world government “king north” “new world order” rule in globalized distributed form. (Rev17:8-18; Rev16:13-16; Dan11:45 “palatial tents”; plural)

The process of Revelation 13:3 describes a “problem” “reaction” “solution” formula they use to present wildbeast world government…:

New International Version

One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast.

New Living Translation

I saw that one of the heads of the beast seemed wounded beyond recovery–but the fatal wound was healed! The whole world marveled at this miracle and gave allegiance to the beast.

The “problem” phase of this world government producing world war cycle is to give the seeming appearance it is doomsday, “the end of the world” most assuredly. But as per 2Thessalonians 2:1-2 that expectation is premature and instead it all heals globally into the final “solution” of world government.

In the process of that “miraculous recovery”, the world’s “doomsday” expectation fear and global-psychological energy is transformed into a global-psychological “reaction” of the greatest globally hopeful relief ever seen (Isa41:1) which positivity gets directed to the wildbeast WORLD GOVERNMENT as if that decoy counterfeit of God’s Kingdom is the “savior of the world”.

The “tribulation of those days” is the whole phase as Daniel 11:41-43 leads in time to Daniel 11:44-45. It will be Daniel 11:41 coming upon the JW org and Jehovah’s witnesses as Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment context. As you may be aware Bethel has JWs expecting “Daniel 11:44 next” which is a King North attack scenario, but Daniel 11:41 is also an “invasion” scenario of the “Decoration” first.

Daniel 11:41 is what will culminate in the JW org “trampling” of Daniel 8:13-14, it is already “profane the sanctuary” “entered” and UN NGO in the Daniel 11:30b-32a context of a Governing Body illegal orifice led in broad daylight infiltration of the JW ministry hence the JW apostasy of Daniel 11:32a is led by the GB, who are King North globalist intel placed agents.

But, it is more than Jehovah’s witnesses who are now being primed for the ” seemed to have had a fatal wound” that ” seemed wounded beyond recovery” by a world war “sword stroke” coming up. If Russia plays a role in this world war as they probably will, JWs will be further misled with the Russia=King North decoy, and will really be thinking Daniel 11:44 has activated, but it is Daniel 11:41 and King North is the globalist world government forming system.

And this phase will test everyone’s faith (Rev3:10) and many people including JWs at first, will believe “the end” has come. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THIS “SEEMED WOUNDED BEYOND RECOVERY” [[HOAX]]!

A psychological paralysis like this will require a fully affirmable prophecy to start to explain the real meaning of this final cycle. Daniel 8:13-14 has phasing, events and timing that can all be affirmed first, in time (Dan8:14), and that solid prophecy will aid getting back into the right position in prophecy, for many including JWs will be bewildered.

1. Even JWs will be at a loss of explanation for a while scattered into a full global hoax of “the end” that has to last 3.19 years of “the evening” phase of the temple judgment. (Dan8:26, evening phase, morning phase; in that order)

2. There will be MORE premature “doomsday” expectation promoting claims to follow the JW initial “end of the world right now” failure, which come from other sources, such as Robert King, but Christendom is also full of these premature “false prophet” forecasters.

JWs merely fail first in the highly advanced end of the world hoax to failure phase.

The goal of these premature 1260 day applications is to continue the “it’s the end of the world” HOAX as long as possible and to as many Christians as possible, too distract their minds, prior to the global “healing” “solution” phase of world government completion and presentation. The goal is to delay people and especially Christians as long as possible. (1260 days; 42 months; 3.5 years, “time, times and half a time” are synonymous)

The nature of the premature false prophecies to emerge with AND AFTER the JW org downfall is related to the much higher profile 1260 days of Revelation 11. (Dan7:25; Dan12:7; Rev11:2-3; Rev12:14; Rev13:5 parallel registering time period) As you know Daniel 8:14 timing is rather obscure among JWs and Christendom. But the 1260 days is well known by all these groups.

For example here is the 1260 days error Robert King is now setting up for use after/during the JW org downfall, in that initial Daniel 8:14 multi-year timing which he is not acknowledging as the global “chaos to order” “sword stroke” phase is active:

“After a brief three and one half year reign of terror the Kingdom stone will crush the entire image. And human rulership will come to a most inglorious end.”

Robert Kings error merely comes after the JW error of a premature “end of the world” acting as one delusion altogether as per 2Thessalonians 2:1-2, to promote the idea this crash cycle is simply the end of it all. But it is not, it heals into world government. And there will be more errors similar to this one, they are all aiding the hoax.

The strategy is to mislead JWs who have searched for other sources of information like Robert King, to get them in those secondary traps which external ops like Robert King have set up, just more error, pan to the first “solution”. King’s trap is designed specifically for scattered JW sheep escaped of the JW org trap.

But in reality this “tribulation of those days” period (Dan8:14 timing activates first with this phase) and the 1260 days it is leading to (and must include), will result in full world government and global “sword stroke got healed” recovery, not “the end” at all. The “tribulation of those days” has to include the Daniel 8:14 and 1260 days timing as sequential.

In this way the 1150 day minimum, 2300 day probable, Daniel 8:14 prophecy period transpiring first, will wear out ALL of these premature 1260 day prophecies, and will lead to the accurate final warning AFTER that whole Daniel 8:14 timed period elapses. This low profile prophecy is what activates in God’s wisdom to counteract the errors to come with the world war “it’s the end of the world” hype.

The real 1260 days fully truthful and accurate final warning and anointed Christian and Jehovah’s witnesses “right condition” comes AFTER Daniel 8:13-14 has fully run its course whether as 1150 days or 2300 days, we need to pat attention to the timing the whole time. After 1150 days desolation JWs will go into recovery phase, well before the 1260 days begins.

Because Daniel 8:13-14 is rather cryptic and can mean 1150 days or 2300 days, probably 1150 days “evening” phase desolations followed by1150 days “morning” recovery phase of temple judgment, we have to pay attention to it and mark it upon globally notable JW org downfall markers.

One thing we can pay attention to to mark the date of, is the cancellation of the JW ministry by Bethel’s own mouth when they turn the “good news” into a “hard hitting judgment message” of the “end of the world” as per Watchtower July 15, 2015 “Your Deliverance is Getting Near” premature end delusion promoting Bethel publication.

We have to mark events that may start that 3.19 year, 1150 days Daniel 8:14 timing. (Dan8:26)

(Daniel 8:26-27) “And the thing seen concerning the evening and the morning, which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because it is yet for many days.” 

By the way, this is the future prophecy period whose divine vision wiped Daniel out physically, it will be big:

27 And as for me, Daniel, I felt exhausted and was made sick for [some] days. Then I got up and did the work of the king; but I kept showing myself numbed on account of the thing seen, and there was nobody understanding [it].


8 thoughts on “On The Coming JW Organization Downfall: Why is Daniel 8:13-14 First and Timed?”

    1. He is just the external ring of the same operation to trap JWs.

      The future test is Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment events and its verification timing.

      King will also promote the premature Christ arrival delusion of 2Thess2:1-2, but as JWs forecast is failing in JWorg downfall.

      It all uses the same diversionary delusion. All I say is TEST Daniel 8:13-14 events and timing when JWorg falls.

      1. so you are saying the downfall of the Watchtower and the end of the preachig work and invasion of Bethel comes first , in what way doe Kings ideas differ from your own , thanks for your reply

      2. You’re Welcome,

        This forecast takes into account Daniel 8:13-14 verification timing of a minimum 3.19 years as the main signature of the JW temple desolation. (Overall it may last 2300 days, desolation and recovery phases “evening” and “morning” respectively. Btw, there is a very very important reason why Daniel 8:13-14 must and will fulfill first: It allows ALL of the premature delusions to totally fail well before the real 1260 days begins. (Dan7:15; Dan12:7; Rev11:2-3; Rev12:14; Rev13:5)))

        In that timed period of Daniel 8:14 many forecasters, including King, will merely try to say the 1260 days has begun and it is as good as the end and Christ arrival. (2Thess2:1-2)

        In reality it will be neither. Instead the world war “sword stroke” will “heal” (Rev13:3) into world government (Rev17:8-12) which will trigger the Christ arrival a number of years into Daniel 8:14 (fully expired) into the 1260 days final warning of Revelation 11:2, which also must expire fully PRIOR to both world government and Christ arrival, hence Rev11:7-12.

        Instead, what happens to JWs is to result in temple judgment accounting (and discipline), purification (Zech3:4-5) and RECOVERY “morning”; Rev9 parallel. (Eze37)

        The 1260 days real divine commission “SECOND witnessing” of the “TWO witnesses” is what will emerge BEFORE 8th King world government completes and triggers the Christ arrival. The JW temple event gathers global attention to where the final warning must emerge in other words, AFTER full desolations of Daniel 8:13-in the Daniel 11:41-43 overall global context.

        Some semblance of the post-desolation “established place” (JWorg) (Dan8:11; Nah2:1) may be retained for the final warning, of course not in the lawless and idolatrous state of today’s JWs and JW org. (Dan8:14)

        In reality the preaching does not end, it converges into the Christ arrival wherein he completes his own ministry in Revelation 14:6-8, “in person” so to speak; (Matt10:23).

        King and others shall fail and also aid the premature “end of the world” hoax, they just fail AFTER JWs fail first.

        Of course I can explain exactly why King will fail, it is in his “seven seals” error, that is the main glitch, but there are many many more. So many in fact, it appears King is an external operation related to the JW subversion internal operation (Dan11:32a), he just uses a slightly different strategy, but he is premature, that much is pretty much certain.

        Ask any questions you want, I have done a 5 year long full-time spiritual “forensics” and can thoroughly prove:

        1. JWs are NOT 100% wrong.

        2. The purpose of the “doomsday” impression in a premature “end of the world” HOAX which is engineered in the whole overall Christendom false prophecy complex. (Btw, the “Governing Body” is a Christendom styled clergy, they just slipped it in in 1944-1976 under a deceptive veneer and different sounding term, but it is from Babel corporate religious management technique “DNA”, so they are still in Christendom and Babel by the same impostorship (hence “man of lawlessness” modern version in JW focus”) “governing” council.)

  1. i find Robert easier to understand , than your posts , i will have to look at what you are saying and compare it to King, also there is another site run by Tara and her Mother both anointed, they dont seem to have a problem with King exept for minor errors , so i am very confused

    1. THINK SEVEN TRUMPETS. The seven trumpets span the whole “time of the end” from temple judgment to Christ conquest.

      As Christ said many deceivers and errors go forth. The difference is this forecast can explain it all upon the seven trumpets final round, all in sequence from Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment to recovery to final warning to world government to Christ arrival, sheepsweep, conquest.

      PRAY ON IT.

      Plus this forecast does not toss the JW baby with the bathwater. Only Daniel 8 and 11 need a UN 1990 3rd UN prophecy and modern GB/MOL apostasy update. I retain the core JW truth, 1914 is VALID.

      As you know they have many people doubting just about everything now due to JW lawlessness. BE CAREFUL, the temple judgment is next, BUT its timing (Dan8:14) will help you sort it all out, it is all coming out in time, ALL OF IT.

      1. what is valid about 1914 we know Christ did not become king then , and the UN was not set up then, nor was the anglo-american duo involved in the leauge of nations,

      2. The main problem with 607 is that it has to be based on “gentile times”, or Babylon’s first seventy years, and only seventy years, under Neb crown-prince-to-king 607 BCE.

        The rest of the discrediting that comes with that purposely retained Bethel error trying to apply a gentile time to a spiritual entity is what gave the 1914 discrediting it’s main impetus. This is why they axed Ray Franz, to keep the 607 BCE Jerusalem destruction date in place.

        But it does not mean 607 BCE does not apply to Nab’s dynasty, because ti does. Jerusalem went down as recorded in around 586 BCE.

        All we know is as per Daniel 11:32a Bethel is infiltrated from around 1940s in effective manner. There are also external operatives whose goal is to discredit the “first witnessing” warning of the “TWO witnesses”.

        There will be a final warning, the end will not come as soon as JWs or Robert King shall imply. They will be worn out by the real Daniel 8:13-14 timing first.

        There is time, in time you will better understand the nature of this discrediting campaign and its main 1914 over-turning focus.

        This is the longest range forecast on the Web, btw. I know it will stretch on atleast 15 more years from the time JW org is sacked as per Isaiah 37-38.

        In reality, God’s prophecy has all the final cycle details required to forecast the final cycle before it occurs which aids the final final warning, second witnessing of the two witnesses a number of years after Bethel is sacked. (Matt24:15; Matt22:1-14)

        All I can say is be patient and Matthew 24:13 focused. This is the homestretch and all parties know it.

        Keep looking into it, King will fail, it is designed to fail after JWs fail. It is one overall operation, btw. (Dan8:12)

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