Revelation 19 “Great Crowd in Heaven” compared to Revelation 7 “Great Crowd” in Prophecy Clues

Revelation 19 “Great Crowd in Heaven” compared to Revelation 7 “Great Crowd” in Prophecy Clues

To understand how the “great crowd” is different but both heavenly in one group (Rev19:1) and earthly in the Revelation 7 post Great Tribulation group first we show how they are different in their sequence in prophecy. This will show you how the “great crowd in heaven” is “in heaven” even before Christ has conquered the world to even deliver the Revelation 7 “great crowd” in the first place, thus an earthly situated “great crowd” appearing last in the sequence of the two.

Because people sometimes use Revelation 19:1-6 to also imply the Revelation 7 “great crowd” is “in heaven” we will use some logic and the prophecy’s own sequence to show this Revelation 19 “great crowd in heaven” is doing these things BEFORE the Great Tribulation deliverance of Revelation 7:9-17. The deliverance of the Revelation 7 “great crowd” would have to occur with the Revelation 19:11-21 events of White Horse Christ in Kingdom Conquest Mode thus AFTER the “great crowd in heaven” of Revelation 19:1-6 in that Revelation 19 prophecy order of events.

Clue 1

The simplest clue is that the Revelation 7 “great crowd” has to “come out of the great tribulation” with this Revelation 19:11-21 event below, thus AFTER this Christ global conquest: event symbolically depicted here from where it starts:

(Revelation 19:11) And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 

Thus the Revelation 19:1-6 “great crowd in heaven” was in heaven EVEN BEFORE Christ went into global conquest mode. As you know the “great crowd in heaven” described in Revelation 19:1-6 is already present BEFORE the Christ conquest of Revelation 19:11-21:

(Revelation 19:1-3) After these things I heard what was as a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven. They said: “Praise Jah, you people! The salvation and the glory and the power belong to our God, 2 because his judgments are true and righteous. For he has executed judgment upon the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication, and he has avenged the blood of his slaves at her hand.” 3 And right away for the second time they said: “Praise Jah, you people! And the smoke from her goes on ascending forever and ever.”

Thus to be a “great crowd in heaven” Christ would have already delivered them with the Revelation 19:11-21 events. BUT that would be out of the Revelation 19 order of events.

Clue 2

Now, since the “great crowd in heaven” here is shown with the statement of the  Babylon the Great “harlot” destruction this “great crowd in heaven” could seem to be in the same timing as the Revelation 7 “great crowd” which would also be delivered with and after the BTG conquest.

But on closer inspection this same “great crowd in heaven” is present before the “marriage of the lamb” is complete that is still before the event of Revelation 19:11 which would lead to the marriage event. But since the Bride is complete, just no marriage yet, the Bride is shown complete here:

(Revelation 19:6-8) And I heard what was as a voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders. They said: “Praise Jah, you people, because Jehovah our God, the Almighty, has begun to rule as king. 7 Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself. 8 Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones.”

Now the complete Bride is shown complete as well, here below too, but as all 144000 symbolized completion as the “Bride” parallel, which the “great crowd in  heaven” also described in regard to the coming marriage in Revelation 19:6-8:

(Revelation 14:1) And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. 

So, the “great crowd in heaven” is again present before the Revelation 7 deliverance of the “great crowd” in Revelation 14:14-16 in the Christ Global Sheep Sweep first priority phase. The “great crowd” of Revelation 7 would be “harvested” with this Revelation 14:14-16 salvation event below, of course after Revelation 14:1 Bride completion:

(Revelation 14:14-16) And I saw, and, look! a white cloud, and upon the cloud someone seated like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

So the “great crowd in heaven” which made the Revelation 14:1 Bride Completion announcement of Revelation 19:6-8 is also present before the “great crowd” ” harvest of the earth” has even been completed in Revelation 14:14-16.

And the “marriage of the lamb” MUST take place AFTER the actual event of the global conquest of Revelation 19:11-21 which will deliver the Revelation 7 “great crowd” as the “harvest of the earth”. So the “great crowd in heaven” is different as it exists in heaven even before the Revelation 7 “great crowd” is delivered by Christ with the actual events of Revelation 19:11-21.

(In all fairness, this is if the Revelation 19 and Revelation 14 sequences are whole unbroken sequence timelines of the post-Christ arrival final events which it seems that is the case because that final sequence is very important and it only occurs in these two places in such a totally complete form in Revelation 14 and 19.)

Clue 3:  Coming Down [to Earth] from Heaven

Many view this long range overview but forget this too initially begins with the Revelation 14:1 and Revelation 19:11 Christ arrival event phases:

(Revelation 21:1-4) 21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

Thus, the “temple” and “throne” are part of the “holy city” which is “coming down from heaven” and being made accessible to humans. It will come down fully accessible here as the 1000 years completes:

(Revelation 22:12-14) “‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. 14 Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority [to go] to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates. 

The “coming down” as in “coming” as a process means the effect of “God’s will done on Earth” is a process from the start of Revelation 7:9-17 to completion of full accessibility as in the “tree of life” granted perfect sinless state, and that human sinlessness takes sometime to achieve to get here. When this below is a reality for here it is just being described, this would even have to become a reality opportunity after Satan and the demons are destroyed because they are the final test period which has to be passed to even get here:

(Revelation 22:14) 14 Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority [to go] to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates. 

By that time under the 1000 Year Reign of Christ, the heavenly “Bride” is already the “New Jerusalem” totally complete and pictured as accessible on Earth there. Thus, HUMANS are who are given accessibility to the “holy city” “by its gates” by that time fully on Earth upon complete obedience to God after the 1000 years has completed and after Satan has been destroyed.

Thus, more than just the “great crowd” will eventually be able to access the eternal life in those “trees of life”; but obedience to God and guarded sinlessness is required as in Eden, Adam and Eve’s failure into disobedience to God barred them access to the “tree of life”.

But the meaning is the same FOR HUMANS, conquer Satan and access  “tree of life” irremovable everlasting life after the final test is passed. Adam and the woman already had “everlasting life”. The “tree of life” they were barred from is an extension of the nature of that “everlasting life”. It would be human immortality based on total testing passed, THAT is what Adam and Eve were prevented from accessing, “indestructible life”.

(Genesis 3:22) And Jehovah God went on to say: “Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite.

Adam and the woman already could live forever while sinless yet with the condition of absolute obedience to God. (Gen2:16-17) So, this “tree of life” is of a different nature of that same “everlasting life” state. (Heb7:16) Now had Christ remained human he would have been granted access to the “tree of life”. In a heavenly way his “indestructible life” is how by complete testing of faithfulness in absolute obedience to God he has accessed “IMMORTALITY” a the final divine nature of “everlasting life” which he also already possessed:

(Hebrews 7:15-17) And it is still more abundantly clear that with a similarity to Melchizedek there arises another priest, 16 who has become such, not according to the law of a commandment depending upon the flesh, but according to the power of an indestructible life, 17 for in witness it is said: “You are a priest forever according to the manner of Melchizedek.”

Since that “indestructible life” is now to be “plugged in” to planet Earth’s planetary life system by means of Jesus Christ’s rulership to remove the Satan “having the means to cause death” (Heb2:14), it will affect ALL LIFE of planet earth in a positive manner commensurate with Christ immortal nature, as God has perfect understanding of how and why this is his “will be done on Earth”:

(Psalm 133:3) 3 It is like the dew of Hermon That is descending upon the mountains of Zion. For there Jehovah commanded the blessing [of] life to time indefinite.

So it is already beyond imagination:

(1 Corinthians 2:9-10) But just as it is written: “Eye has not seen and ear has not heard, neither have there been conceived in the heart of man the things that God has prepared for those who love him.” 10 For it is to us God has revealed them through his spirit, for the spirit searches into all things, even the deep things of God.

BUT it has yet to become reality, but it will. Obedience to God equates to immortality in time upon full testing of faith.

Note on Christ Arrival Priorities

(From previous reply, Btw, the article version coming soon God willing will have a distinction explained about Christ arriving “with the clouds” to sweep sheep first as in Matt24:31, which would secure the Rev7 “great crowd” before Rev19:11 events of the “with power and great glory” totally manifested Christ conquest. But Revelation 19:11-21 FINALIZES the deliverance as Revelation 7:9-17 would be the FINALIZED aftermath, of the finale prophetic description; even if the “great crowd” was secured beforehand, it is still delivered at Revelation 14:14-16.)

But by Revelation 21 it is clear Earth is the target of “let your Kingdom come” and “let your will take place ON EARTH” “as in heaven”.

It just becomes a “seamless” reality between God’s will done in heaven first, and God’s will done ON EARTH last, as one perfect whole well beyond human understanding but understandable to the full capacity of the then perfect human brain and mind. HUGELY different than it is now, to say the least.)

What is to be explained and scripturally cross referenced is the Christ arrival has two objectives in securing sheep prior to the conquest mode and these have scriptural prophetic references to know each occurrence. Thus, we know all the global-conquest references have to be after the sheep are globally secured as the final objective is the global conquest of the wild beast system. In the sheep securement phase, Christ has to arrive to complete the 1Thessalonians 4:17 heavenly sheep aspect first, to be in full “Messianic Kingdom” mode complete, then the rest of the sheep are secured to comprise the “great crowd” of which as explained earlier some sheep are very very “new” sheep.

Another thing to realize is Christ has to render the first Messianic Kingdom judgment (Dan7:26; Matt24:31) by the secured sheep approval and then the BTG judgment from which downfall some final sheep in that bondage are freed to salvation as concurrent with BTG’s judgment, hence Revelation 14:8. Christ renders the judgment even if the wild beast is who destroys the Babylon the Great corporate religious system. Thus, Christ has to be in a “parousia-like” covert stealth mode first for those initial sheep-sweep operations globally (which can take a little time, hence Daniel12:11’s timing allowance for that time required.).

In line with the concept of “parousia” AND the to be clearly known Open Salvation “Week” (Dan9:27) composed of the 1260 days (Dan12:7; Rev11:2-3) and 1290 days (Dan12:11) “week” of approximate seven years, we can know Christ arrives after the 1260 days ends as will be shown. The reason why this is explained is because we can know from prophecy the Christ arrival timeline and priority by scriptural cross reference.

(Now someone may say “I thought he already was in the Parousia? How can there be two? Well unlike the coronation in God’s Kingdom event “parousia” to oversee all this from heaven, this time Christ is “in the air” of Revelation 16:17-20 and 1Thessaloninas 4:17 in direct personal location of planet Earth. So this “parousia” is unique and directly in the Earth target of Matthew 6:10.)

Christ’s Arrival Global Sheep Sweep and Conquest Phasing

The main priority order of Christ is salvation first and conquest last which can also be plainly proven by the Matthew 25:31-46 and Revelation 14:14-20 sequences where the sheep are secured first then the goats are deposed. Thus, we can assume the salvation arrival FIRST portion is a “parousia” like stealth event to secure sheep all over the world right under the nose of complete world government by that time.

(Psalm 110:2) The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:] “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.”

And we can assume the global-conquest mode FINAL OBJECTIVE OF CHRIST is plainly visible for obvious reasons, and that Christ can use BOTH the “with the clouds” parousia first mode in covert means for sheep sweeping and then the “with power and great glory” when in conquest mode as all the sheep are safely out of the main global battle zones for Christ’s termination of the forces of world government “scarlet wildbeast”. (Rev17:8-18 full final sequence)

(Matthew 24:29-31) 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days (as 1260 days ends) the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (first the 7th King old world order to 8th King new world order system shocks) 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

Thus, the Matthew 24:31 events are in mostly “with the clouds” stealth  parousia mode to perform the global “sheep sweep”, to complete the anointed gathering to spirit form (first) and to then proceed to gather all the earth sheep first in the priority. Even though Matthew 24:29-31 does not show any destruction mode yet, we can know Matthew 24:31 sheep sweep is the first and main priority at Christ arrival which precedes the conquest manifestation of Revelation 19:11.

That means the Revelation 14:1 144000 completion is secured first which completes the “Messianic Kingdom” allowing Christ to be crowned by God “King of kings” thus this is the global-conquest mode of Christ as King of kings in a complete Messianic Kingdom, after the sheep are all secured:

(Revelation 19:11-16) And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. 14 Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. 15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

Symbolic “Week” of Open Salvation Offer

The Open Salvation Offer in global actuality:

(Revelation 14:6-8) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.” 8 And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

This means this Christ arrival mode has to be when Christ is already crowned “King of kings” in the Messianic Kingdom thus after the initial first priority global sheep sweep is complete for they are delivered by the official earthly sovereign “Messianic Kingdom” entity carrying out its first promise of the “new government” yet not in fully globally conquered mode, yet.

To get there that final 1260 days is a global appeal period to inform others of the certainty of the Christ arrival as that period ends. We can show in the prophecy that the 1260 days and 1290 days have a transition in Daniel 12:7 and Daniel 12:11 as Revelation 11:7-8 indicates. Thus, Christ arrives in the already initially active 1290 day period as will be explained as we proceed to explain fully how to know the 1290 days activation dual- criteria and which prophecy (Rev11:7-12) is the final symbolic period (Rev11:8) to merge into that Daniel 12:11 1290 days period just starting up.

Thus, for the eventual logic in this article that 1260 days and 1290 days forms a symbolic “week” of years with notable events to mark it as being the 1260 days pre-Christ arrival signal final appeal period and the 1290 days period is to be post-Christ arrival OPEN SALVATION GUARANTEED ALLOWANCE period that takes a little time, but with Christ arrived for the sheep sweep mode, first. (Matt24:29-31; Rev16:17; 1Thess4:17; Rev11:11-12; Matt24:31; Rev14:1)

This is important to know because in that prelude 1260 days to Christ arrival-to-its-actuality in a symbolic “week” of OPEN SALVATION (which will be described as we proceed) we know what leads to Christ arrival in the 1260 days “second witness” of the “TWO witnesses” which has to complete first as per Revelation 11:7.

Thus its very “Christ arrival” “little scroll” subject matter of that Revelation 11:2-3 1260 day final warning and global open salvation announcement exactly precedes the very Christ arrival event it is to be warning of in a complete totally affirmable summary:

(Revelation 10:5-7) And the angel that I saw standing on the sea and on the earth raised his right hand to heaven, 6 and by the One who lives forever and ever, who created the heaven and the things in it and the earth and the things in it and the sea and the things in it, he swore: “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

When Christ arrives in the “mid week”, post 1260 days sequence, what he does first is save sheep and thus that will be in the 1290 day period already in initial activation. That final period’s 1260 days and the 1290 days must be ALL OPEN FOR SALVATION. That 1290 days is the final part of that open salvation “week” and the conquest mode of Christ concludes the 1290 day final allowance period. Now we know global sheep securement process can have plenty of time in the Daniel 12:11 1290 days, active to some brief degree, to complete that sheep-sweep process and why it exists with such a time frame.

Open Salvation Week Proof

Now that final “week” for OPEN SALVATION PURPOSES is shown in two Bible prophecies in principle of what is to be applied to the final open salvation “week” based on seven lunar years composed of the 1260 days and 1290 days (lunar 7.083 years; solar 6.99 years). Now for example one, the principle exists here in Noah’s day where God gave a final warning to Noah seven days, a week, prior to the deluge flood:

(Genesis 7:4-5) For in just seven days more I am making it rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and I will wipe every existing thing that I have made off the surface of the ground.” 5 And Noah proceeded to do according to all that Jehovah had commanded him.

Now keep in mind the 1260 days and the 1290 days form a rounded “week” of years WITH THE SAME PURPOSE: SALVATION OFFER AND WARNING. So in the indirect principle of the the main Jesus Christ pattern itself here we have the real proof of the “week” principle that although applying to the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, ALSO has the same principle elements in the final appeal period features as will be explained:

(Daniel 9:27) “And he must keep [the] covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease.

We know the “holy covenant” principle of human salvation is “in force” for many people GLOBALLY for “one week” as we extend this pattern to the actual final seven year “week” that precedes the full application of the Christ sacrifice to initially save people from 8th King caused “great tribulation” and the Christ conquest event of the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” which deposes the “goats”.

(This prophecy has a very direct fulfillment in the time of Jesus Christ, BUT we can use the spirit of the salvation to know Christ’s main pattern is applicable to the climax “time of the end” Bible prophecy as well when its actuality becomes globally realized.

This time at the Daniel 9:27 principle “half of the week”, that is now to be defined at the end of the 1260 days completed into also the final appeal’s “two witnesses” “constant feature” ceased as Christ ARRIVES with salvation for sheep; while in initial fulfillment Christ died to “cease gift offering” and to secure this very global salvation and now they will simultaneously co-relate in final form! Now, THAT is no accident!)

And this Daniel 9:27 “week” of salvation MIDPOINT is to be marked in this principle pattern by the Revelation 11:7-10 “cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease” “at the half of the week” as the 1260 days ends which is another way of terming the cessation of the “constant feature” “gift offering” in Daniel 9:27’s principle.

In the first case, Christ was killed to mark that midpoint with his sacrifice and ministerial “gift offering” “constant feature” ceased. IN the future case, we can prove the 1260 days ends in Revelation 11:7-10 to ALSO be marked by the cessation of the final “two witnesses” appeal’s “constant feature” as also to be ceased (in the final warning cancelled by “abyss” ascendant world government; Rev11:7). And that “constant feature” cessation will mark the “half of the week”, that is the 1260 days expired. Now that 1260 days expired has to be followed by the 1290 day period in part signified as active by that “two witnesses” “constant feature” removal of the future, which we can see the parallel below:

(Daniel 12:11) “And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed (Rev11:7 final warning ceased) and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation (as complete world government), there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Now, the “there has been a placing of the disgusting thing” is a completion of the “disgusting thing” global- placement as 8th King world government in complete worldwide form when in final cycle of the future. Now, we can connect this Revelation 11:7 “killing” of the “two witnesses” AND the wildbeast “abyss ascension” as direct parallel of that Daniel 12:11 activation dual- criteria when BOTH those two prophetic features of globally seen events are globally present, at the same time:

(Revelation 11:7) And when they have finished their witnessing (1260 days completed), the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss (Rev17:8-12) will make war with them and conquer them and kill them.

That “wildbeast” “abyss ascension” (Rev17:8-12) occurs concurrent globally with also the “killing” of the “two witnesses” as the parallel of the Daniel 12:11 “the time that the constant [feature] has been removed” AND that while the “abyss ascension” of the “disgusting thing that is causing desolation” as the completion of 8th King Scarlet Wildbeast World Government is also globally official; thus BOTH criteria features of the Daniel 12:11 prophecy period will be present and thus the 1290 day activation benchmark will be present as notable for people’s information at that time.

Christ will then arrive when the “two witnesses” “three and a half day” “death state” has expired directly into the Revelation 11:11-12 Christ arrival parallel.

Merging the 1260 Days Expiration into the 1290 Days by the “Three and a Half Day” “Death State” of the “Two Witnesses”

Thus, the cessation of the “two witnesses” “second witnessing” “constant feature” final warning appeal in the deep final cycle future must also define the “killing” of the “two witnesses” by the cessation of their final warning appeal ministry which then activates that final “three and a half days” period to expire into the Christ arrival parallel of Revelation 11:11-12.

So we know this final symbolic period of “three and a half days” will be short, it must be in the 1290 days as carried out by then complete world government international law defining both Daniel 12:11 1290 activation criteria and that its symbolic “three and a half day” expiration leads to this Christ arrival parallel as the FINAL prophetic period required to expire just prior to Christ arrival:

(Revelation 11:11-13) And after the three and a half days spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon those beholding them. 12 And they heard a loud voice out of heaven say to them: “Come on up here.” (Matt24:31; 1Thess4:17 parallel) And they went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies beheld them. 

Thus, the “thee and a half days” activated after the 1260 days has expired as in Revelation 11:7, must merge into the 1290 days period to mark the cessation of the “constant feature” in its Daniel 12:11 criteria portion.

Salvation Reference:

(Revelation 11: 13) And in that hour (Rev17:12) a great earthquake occurred, and a tenth of the city fell; and seven thousand persons were killed by the earthquake, and the rest became frightened and gave glory to the God of heaven.

The Revelation 11:13 “kills” are a salvation symbol in which the symbolic “7000” and the “tenth of the city” are salvation meanings. Since Babylon the Great is still present a little while longer AFTER the “two witnesses” are “killed” as Christendom is the Revelation 11:8 “broad way” into that “great city” which also contains the “two witnesses” unburied “corpses”. This means there are eventually final- sheep saved from the Babylon the Great “great city” overall global-system as per Revelation 14:6-7 open salvation offer which leads to, and thus through, the BTG destruction whose finale is announced in Revelation 14:8 as Revelation 14:6-7 events lead here during the BTG destruction phase as noted in this final sequence:

(Revelation 14:6-8) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.” 

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

Thus, the “great crowd” is completely “gathered” in completion as far as that BTG liberation aspect for a “tenth of the city” saved in symbolic meaning adds the final humans to the “great crowd”, some final “sheep” swept out by use of the BTG downfall. But Revelation 7:9-17 is a post Christ total global-conquest finale sequence, so that is when in the timeline the “great crowd” are described in final form, even if being secured previously during the 1290 days Revelation 7:9-17 is the post Christ conquest aftermath.

The “Great Crowd” as the First Temple Gift of Christ to God

(Hebrews 9:9) This very [tent] is an illustration for the appointed time that is now here, and in keeping with it both gifts and sacrifices are offered. 

Thus, the “great crowd” in its Matthew 24:31-40 “sheep” symbol and Revelation 14:14-16 “harvest of the earth” parallels of also a final completed Christ arrival “gathering” are the first “harvest of the earth”  “gift” offered by High Priest Christ to God in the completed “temple” state:

(Revelation 14:15-17) And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped. 17 And still another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary] that is in heaven, he, too, having a sharp sickle.

And to make this “heavenly temple” have earthly effect it has to be “coming down [to earth] from heaven” in symbol of its divine power of salvation now directly affecting earth:

(Revelation 21:1-2) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Though the “temple” is a heavenly symbol of a spiritual reality the completion of the 144000 is what enables it as a complete “temple” only requiring the “head stone” Christ for total completion and it has earthly missions to help fulfill the Christ prayerful request of God:

(Matthew 6:9-10) “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come [to earth]. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.

By that time the “coming down from heaven” has made its first step into planet Earth, and this “holy city’s” temple” is then beginning to become accessible to humans on Earth, thus the “throne” and “temple” are parts of the “holy city” “coming down” to earth making this all accessible to humans on Earth:

(Revelation 7:9-10) After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

And that is how human beings can be “before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his [then completed] temple” because these are all elements within the “holy city”:

(Revelation 7:13-17) And in response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”

And if that “tent” and “God will wipe out every tear from their eyes” sounds familiar in Revelation it is the promise of God also shown here below on earth so we can again know where this “tent” is to become spread, that is over planet Earth, but not as the “temple” of course but as “God’s will done on Earth” “tent” global-condition and God’s guidance of the whole human family:

(Revelation 21:3-4) With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

And thus, since the “tent of God is with mankind” therefore the “great crowd” is the first of mankind to start to be recovered on Earth in this fulfillment then becoming reality, and that is with earthly focus God “will reside with them, and they will be his peoples” on Earth. Thus it starts to fulfill the Matthew 6:10 “let your Kingdom come” to planet Earth to oversee “God’s will done on Earth as in Heaven” in comprehensive manner which takes 1000 years to complete to human perfection and sinlessness.

(2 Thessalonians 1:10) and to be regarded in that day with wonder in connection with all those who exercised faith, because the witness we gave met with faith among you.

We can see here below, the “great crowd” is not sinless and perfected yet hence not in heaven but still on Earth. The “great crowd” will still be requiring more now direct Christ guidance to the “waters of life” which signify the teaching of the practice of sinlessness and the divine perfection of human being and body (Heb10:10) to make it possible which then proceeds under the 1000 year reign of Christ:

(Revelation 7:17) because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. 

This direct accessibility to human beings is because the “holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God” is present in initial form for the “gift offering” of the “harvest of the earth” to be given by High Priest Christ in God’s “temple” to proceed into the 1000 year reign of Christ:

(Revelation 21:1-2) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

And since the “Bride” is also now complete and is also in that “Lamb’s wife” symbol:

(Revelation 21:9-10) And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls which were full of the seven last plagues, and he spoke with me and said: “Come here, I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.” 10 So he carried me away in [the power of the] spirit to a great and lofty mountain, and he showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God…

The “Marriage of the Lamb” can take place in the official form and the “great crowd” and who knows who else may be present…:

(Revelation 11:18) to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great

…and can be the “invited to the Lamb’s Marriage” for the “Groom and Bride” are not the “invitees” they are the main event! And though anointed are invited in they become the “bride” so there is more than just the “bride and groom” at the marriage ceremony as humans can experience and witness the earthly manifestation of the event. What wedding ceremony consists of only the bride and groom?

(Revelation 19:7-8) Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself. 8 Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones.”

So, humans are the ones who are affected by this commission of the final appeal warning parallel:

(Matthew 25:6-7) Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on your way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 

Thus the “five discreet virgins” and the “two witnesses” have a global audience to be affected by the final appeal of the open salvation offer, they do not “light up the way” and “witness to Christ arrival” to themselves and those that do respond are part of this final appeal process’s global audience to bring in the finality of all the parties of those to complete the “bride” and those to complete the invited ones to witness the marriage and ceremonies in this same principle of the final Open Salvation Offer parallel:

(Matthew 22:7-13) “But the king grew wrathful, and sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. 8 Then he said to his slaves, ‘The marriage feast indeed is ready, but those invited were not worthy. 9 Therefore go to the roads leading out of the city, and anyone you find invite to the marriage feast.’ 10 Accordingly those slaves went out to the roads and gathered together all they found, both wicked and good; and the room for the wedding ceremonies was filled with those reclining at the table. 11 “When the king came in to inspect the guests he caught sight there of a man not clothed with a marriage garment. 12 So he said to him, ‘Fellow, how did you get in here not having on a marriage garment?’ He was rendered speechless. 13 Then the king said to his servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and throw him out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.’

Final Note: “Tent” to “Temple” Completion First, for “Coming Down from Heaven” Last

Now as the “temple” word in Revelation NWT translation signifies, as it does in the Greek text, the Revelation prophecy use of that “temple” word in the Revelation terminal sequences only AFTER the TEMPLE HAS BEEN COMPLETED (by finally God) in these final contexts (Rev11:19). As an example in this pre-seven plagues description the “tent” word is used as the “temple” is yet to complete:

(Revelation 15:5-6) And after these things I saw, and the sanctuary of the tent of the witness was opened in heaven, 6 and the seven angels with the seven plagues emerged from the sanctuary, clothed with clean, bright linen and girded about their breasts with golden girdles. 

Whereas by the time of these sequences Christ has arrived and the “temple” has been completed in all 144000:

(Revelation 11:19) And the temple [sanctuary] of God that is in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen in his temple [sanctuary]. And there occurred lightnings and voices and thunders and an earthquake and a great hail.

(Revelation 14:15-17) And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped. 17 And still another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary] that is in heaven, he, too, having a sharp sickle.

(Revelation 7:15) That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. (the tent here is not the temple)

In this pre-temple completion reference it is of the “measuring of the temple” signifying its guaranteed divine completion in this final Revelation 11 future sequence. The rest is really focused on the “courtyard” signified as earthly as it will be trampled in this final pre-Christ arrival sequence of Revelation 11:1-19 which “trampling” of Revelation 11:2 leads to the “temple” completion:

(Revelation 11:1-2) And a reed like a rod was given me as he said: “Get up and measure the temple [sanctuary] of God and the altar and those worshiping in it. 2 But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 

Although God Almighty completes the temple, of course, Christ works on the temple completion, when he “gathers” the rest of the “the living” final anointed “who are surviving” (1Thes4:17); but GOD is who places Christ as the “head stone” also the King-Priest significance:

(Zechariah 4:6-9) Accordingly he answered and said to me: “This is the word of Jehovah to Zerubbabel, saying, ‘“Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” Jehovah of armies has said. 7 Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel [you will become] a level land. And he will certainly bring forth the headstone. There will be shoutings to it: “How charming! How charming!”’” 8 And the word of Jehovah continued to occur to me, saying: 9 “The very hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house, and his own hands will finish [it]. 

In the reality of the heavenly “Temple” God is who “finishes it” because he sets Christ as also the final “stone” in the “temple” as Christ is also its “foundation stone” and Zechariah 4 is the Revelation 11:5 parallel so the “shoutings” of the coming “temple” completion is a final appeal parallel of the “two witnesses” “second witnessing” of the future.

And that commission is to be given here after the temple cleansing of Zechariah 3:1-5:

(Zechariah 3:8-9) “‘Hear, please, O Joshua the high priest, you and your companions who are sitting before you, for they are men [serving] as portents; for here I am bringing in my servant Sprout! 9 For, look! the stone that I have put before Joshua! Upon the one stone there are seven eyes. Here I am engraving its engraving,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies, ‘and I will take away the error of that land in one day.’

It means the 144000 completion, whether literal or symbolic, is a required whole also “gathered” to total completion (1Thess4:17; Rev16:17-20). This is why prior to temple completion as cited above in Revelation 15, and also found in Hebrews, the word “tent” is used as in the temporary incomplete state of anointed “gathering” and thus the “temple” is signified as a “tent”, still incomplete, even when there was only one anointed One, even if it is the Christ:

(Hebrews 8:1-2) Now as to the things being discussed this is the main point: We have such a high priest as this, and he has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a public servant of the holy place and of the true tent, which Jehovah put up, and not man.

(Hebrews 9:9) This very [tent] is an illustration for the appointed time that is now here, and in keeping with it both gifts and sacrifices are offered. 

A Final Meditation for Many

In addition, this 1290 days allowance and the stealth sheep securing super-natural events, though covert, will be noticed by other people still in question of their own faith about Christ and this extended time frame gives them some time to think about the things they have seen. As with the case of the week prior to the flood, people had to witness a massive influx of animal life into the ark because 8 people were not going to gather such an enormous cargo, and though people saw that sign, none responded.

But this final sign of Christ loading his own salvation human cargo can have a great effect on others and some of them will make the decision to get “on board” with Revelation 14:6-8’s offer and the “two witnesses” appeal will have made this offer known to many people as well. The extended time frame of this open salvation period thus also allows people some time to meditate on what they will KNOW has been going on at global scale and hopefully choose salvation before it is truly too late, and angels ensure the open salvation offer will stand the whole 1290 days:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

That divine offer is pretty direct and its acceptance will be aided by interesting sheep sweep events and the time to reflect upon what it really means for many people.

 

 

 

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