Peace and Security Hoax and Bethel Apostasy SetUp

From Bethel Apostasy and JW Delusion to Coming Peace and Security Hoax?

Final Props Being Placed for the Final Phase

The purpose of the prelude deceptions is to instill in the mass mind, and it’s JW sector, the expectation of a “the end” prematurely to aid the uncertainty of the meaning of the coming world developments. In reality God’s prophecy already outlines the final cycle upon the first cycle of 1914-1919 that led to the first United Nations manifestation as the League of nations in 1919.

The same formula is to be used in the final UN cycle leading to world government through a comparable but more severe world war of finance and military “tribulation” that instead resolves in time into UN 8th King world government.

This formula has been used to resolve WW1, WW2 and Cold WW3 into comparable UN manifestations to conclude those global war and tribulation cycles, even if unique like the Cold War. (Dan11:29). The Bethel subversion and the general world misled state both create atmospheres of the “end of the world” and uncertainty.

Therefore when we compare prophetic reality with the Bethel engineered fraudulent version of it being promoted especially after the 1990 3rd United Nations placement, uncommented on by Bethel as regards prophecy and world significance of world government’s third phase of development of four foretold in prophecy, we can outline the general expectation Bethel is installing in the JW mind to create confusion in this final phase of detailed prophecy about to activate.

We can see what to expect next in the Bethel deception by a few core teachings Bethel is promoting like the “peace and security” expectation and a final decoy of the “King North” subterfuge they are now using the USSR to “fulfill”. One thing in the Bethel 8th King aided strategy leads to another to cease the Bethel ministry and to cover it up as “prophecy fulfilling” in the process to abandon JWs in total scattered confusion.

Thus the idea “the preaching work comes to an end” is also a fraudulent expectation being engineered into the JW psyche so JWs accept the Bethel coup as if it is “King North attacking” and or “the attack on Babylon the Great” and or “the attack of the Assyrian” and the “end of the world” shortly after the “great tribulation” begins.

Thus the “peace and security” is being misapplied prematurely to reinforce the overall premature “end of the world” expectation. That allows a final multi-year cycle to be covered up with a “slam dunk” “end of the world” expectation allowing a period of Jehovah’s witnesses confusion in the beginning of that final phase and cycle activation. It appears as well a “King North” final development will also be employed with these other deceptions to cover up the actual development’s meaning.

Reality 1

The tribulation will indeed develop, what develops after that activates is fully outlined in prophecy and completely contrary to the Bethel engineered deception based on a premature “end of the world” expectation and anxiety and uncertainty promoting ambiguous final “interpretation”.

We know in all this Bethel is first fulfilling the final apostasy and it’s 8th King relationship from the time of the 3rd UN placement (Dan11:31b) of 1990 forward in marked manner in Daniel 11:32:

(Daniel 11:32) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant (at Bethel), he (8th King/King North) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. (The Bethel “smooth words” 8th King cover-up in the JW publications is part of the smoothly justified apostasy);

Since Daniel 11:36-41 parallels Daniel 11:30-35 events in an overlay of 8th King developmental details, we know what Daniel 11:41 actually is implying in relation to Daniel 11:32 8th King “King North” led apostate objectives within Bethel:

(Daniel 11:41) He (8th King) will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration (infiltrates the Bethel ministry internally), and there will be many [people] that will be made to stumble. (Matt24:15; Luke21:20 signal development present now at Bethel; Stumbling people is also the lawless Bethel subversion goal. Parallels Daniel 8:11-13 and Daniel 11:30-35 events and meaning);

Actually Daniel 11:41 is the Bethel infiltration completing the coup begun by the Governing Body cell of dictatorial control of the JW ministry in 1976 when they first “lifted themselves over everyone”.

Reality 2

The global nation-state financial system meltdown is what will produce the very literal events on nation-state “land of” the “King South” “Egypt” realm falling under globalist “King North” 8th King preliminary financial control to guide the rest of the final cycle to world government by this global “King South” wealth pawning:

(Daniel 11:42-43) And he (8th King/King North) will keep thrusting out his hand against the (national) lands; and as regards the land of Egypt (collective national powers; King South “capital”), she (feminized King South) will not prove to be an escapee. (captured by globalist power intrigues of first a financial nature:) 43 And he (King North/8th King) will actually rule over the hidden treasures (globally) of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt. (Thus 8th King/King North rules the world wealth, wealth system and all “desirable things” of collective global national “Egypt” “King South” powers in full globalist progressive ownership);

See: Daniel 11:42-43 Explicit in Coming 8th King Globalized Wealth Control

Thus Daniel 11:44-45 is many years towards the end of this final cycle going into 8th King final “King North” world government over a “tribulation of those days” coming up that must resolve as per Matthew 24:29. That tribulation phase that will include economic and financial meltdown and probably military conflict with Russia and others, must resolve into, instead, the 8th King fourth UN cycle culmination into the foretold world government.

In effect the final cycle is what is starting next, not ending prematurely.

That reality is now to be sold to JWs as a premature “end of the world” expectation that any Russian activation militarily will be connected to the “Daniel 11:44 next” error that Bethel maintained from 1990 forward when the USSR fell. This allows a purposeful error to advance JW expectations too far into Daniel 11.

The Bethel Hoax

The overall purpose of the Bethel sector of an overall coming period of uncertainty is to keep it ambiguous and in expectation of “the end” prematurely. This allows what is actually a well detailed final UN cycle to proceed according to 8th King designate designs towards that end, while JWs are thrown into that final cycle thinking it is the certain end. In fact it cannot be the end for several reasons such as the completed world government requirement prior to Christ’s arrival and it’s final actual world “peace and security” statement under that foretold finality of world government. (1Thess5:1-3). It is under 8th King competed world government that the final actual “freedom from care” is to develop, it is the parallel of the “peace and security” now being touted by some as active now and about to be active soon in that “peace and security” statement as the prophetic actuality.

But in fact those things are premature and are required to develop under 8th King full and complete world government at the end of this coming cycle. So tossing JWs bewildered and eventually to be totally scattered and confused into that final cycle starting, aids the development of world government from being exposed properly as already fully outlined in the final prophecy.

The USSR Error and Fraudulent Positioning in Daniel 11

Bethel did not elaborate that the USSR downfall, as the United Nations “New World Order” arose in public statements of world government intent is a significant prophecy fulfilling Daniel 11:30-31 in 1990 marked UN 3rd placement event. Daniel 11:36-40 is all King North 8th King developments that Bethel conceals with this error purposely retained in the prophecy. Why is this easily proven USSR as “King North” error maintained?

This error and embedded perception allows over advancement of JW expectations to Daniel 11:44 as the next point of prophetic fulfillment. Simply put King North must be “successful until the denunciation will have come to a finish” (Dan11:36) from the 3rd UN to 4th UN world government overall period. The USSR cannot fulfill part of the “King North” prophecy to be “on hold” at Daniel 11:44.

It is the 3rd UN placement marked 8th King (Daniel 11:31b) that is successful as final “King North” from 1990 (Daniel 11:31b, Dan8:23a) to Armageddon in the 4th UN placement world government to result at the end of the Daniel 11:42-45 cycle.

The USSR cannot meet the criteria of the fulfillment of Daniel 11:36 “success” or Daniel 11:42-43 global gold control, but Bethel simply ignores this reality and it must be purposeful marking their apostate condition and King North 8th King affiliations. Daniel 11:41 is the 8th King “invasion” of Bethel by infiltration.

In reality Jehovah’s witnesses are being passed over the most significant UN period and prophecy since 1945 as if none of it occurred. Instead Bethel joined that 1990 3rd UN placement as a publicly known UN NGO liaison after a decade of covert membership still unaddressed officially by Bethel. Logically and by evidence there must be more going on in this Bethel defection.

Thus the predicable elements of the hoax can be seen in what JWs are being taught in key prophetic teachings misapplied and premature. We can expect a premature manifestation of a “King North” decoy and a “peace and security” statement that will not be the actuality of that final world government statement. That recently tensions have arisen centered on Russia seems to indicate the “King North” “continuation” as Russia may now be being prepared by Bethel to further conceal the 8th King in Daniel 11 as long as possible.

Also concealed is the final cycle significance of prophecy as it begins to near activation as actually Daniel 11:42-45 and as 8th King world government producing developments Thus the key global final phase, the fourth UN phase of prophecy to result in world government is being sold by Bethel and many in the misled world scene as “the end of the world” and Bethel can be set-up for removal by aid internally, and that can be sold to Jehovah’s witnesses as more “prophecy fulfilling brothers!”.

Now the use of the hoax “Peace and Security” statement is set up.

Peace and Security Prematurely Soon?

Expect the “Peace and Security” premature delusion soon, imo.

Once we see the purpose of this premature delusion we know it has to be used. It can fool not just Jehovah’s witnesses but much of nominal Christendom.

And that aids the premature “the end” delusion of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 present in JWs and in much of Christendom.

This allows the world government final cycle to progress pedal to the metal, and many will miss the reality, for quite some time, that this was a hoax intended to not just discredit JWs, but also Christianity prophecy in general by use of 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 expectation prematurely.

When the “tribulation of those days” ends, which is that final cycle (of several YEARS), it is then 8th King world government will present their real world “peace and security” final sovereign claim under full world government. (Dan8:25, 1Thess5:1-3) When there are NO “wars and reports of wars” in that 8th King world peace and proclamation, THEN the real end will come. (Matt24:6)

In the meantime, as the JW interpretation fails because of begin prematurely applied by Bethel, JWs will undergo a global discrediting campaign that Bethel aids by promoting this key delusion now in JWs:

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-2) However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.

The fake “peace and security” in my opinion coming up, will aid that delusion in itself, and in the final cycle STARTING events that will follow it. Much of Christendom is also subject to this delusion and hoax that aids the final cycle from not being recognized for what it is.

In reality it will be the final temple judgment cycle on JWs FIRST.

As far as JWs are concerned, Bethel can attempt to fully destroy the ministry (Dan11:32a, 41), and then sell that as long as they can to JWs as that premature “the end”. The only end it will be is that of the Bethel apostasy (Matt13:36-42), and that provides later insight into what is actually the “judgment STARTING with the house of God” and proceeding with world government completion to Christ’s arrival over that final cycle. (1Pet4:17, Dan8:13-14)

It will take several years, but it will get clear: COMPLETE 8TH KING WORLD GOVERNMENT is what will trigger Christ’s real and full arrival once they are done and stated as such, for real (1Thess5:1-3), not the fake peace and security JWs are primed for too soon, that the 8th King global planners will soon use to hoax JWs and others.

The judgment cycle is REPEATING, as is the whole prophecy, and it STARTS on the JW apostate organization, not Christendom, and not Babylon the Great – those are just Bethel diversions to obscure the meaning and location of their own judgment.

Make a mental note for later.

Full rationale of above at:

Bethel Hoax: Premature End Expectation

Bethel’s Main Delusion: The End is Near, Jehovah’s Day is Here! – is a Signal of The Final Apostasy


8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”

Notes on Why the Peace and Security Hoax Could be Effective

Comments from a Person on Peace and Security speculative article; 

@Peace and Security Prematurely Soon?

Comments: You wrote this [Peace and Security speculative article] in a way that only you understand.

First: Most people have no idea what you are referring to because they do not study and live their live in accordance with God’s word.
Actually others also understand the basic meaning of the “peace and security” finality. I am warning people of the use of that familiarity to potentially aid a great global hoax. I am looking for those not living in accordance, as was Christ, they are capable of learning more. Many will in time “get it” as to what is happening because God will back a long haul recovery as Revelation 8-11 REPEATS with the final cycle, ALSO REPEATING.

World Government and Prophecy Repeating Principles

What some do not understand is the wildbeast powers of this world ALSO UNDERSTAND MUCH OF CHRISTENDOM AND [ALL] OF JWS CAN BE AFFECTED by the use of this statement prematurely. YOU understand exactly what I said in that post, BUT, imo, you may be in denial with many other Jehovah’s witnesses, if you are one, about what is actually BREWING INSIDE OF Bethel. (Dan11:41, Dan11:32a, Dan8:12) The point of the post is Christendom is misled by the premature end expectation of 2Thess2:1-2, but so are JWs, and that deception among JWs occurred fully since 1976, not before, that GB first “lift up” into a dictatorial means of hi-jacking the JW anointed ministry fully, by the time Fred Franz died.

Can you face that possibility? Are they infallible? Is being a UN NGO UN partner really OK with God?

And that is why Fred Franz and Knorr did not agree with a dictator GB.

And thus it will take time for some to awaken to the real reality that Bethel has been fully compromised (Dan11:32a, 41, Dan8:12), and will aid a hoax also in that JW sector, with intent of destroying all Jehovah’s witnesses (Hos1:4-7), by the organization first (Dan8:13), [[LONG BEFORE world government completes]], and [long before Christ arrives] with that event.

If Bethel has genuine anointed Christians in “spearhead” command of the ministry subservient to Christ and God, they would also be explaining EVERYTHING noted and numbered at the very end of this post. They would not be a UN NGO. They would explain the 1990 3rd UN presentation prophecy and meaning.

I am fully capable of defending my explanation of the prophecy of apostasy, and final 8th King fulfillments Bethel is bypassing, WHILE also defending the foundation JW truth from 1914-1976, from 1914 to today’s Bethel apostates made clear as day in 1990.

UNLESS you are as asleep as Bethel, YOU KNOW the world itself is exposing more globalization-to-world-government developments now, than 1960 stuck Bethel. Bethel stagnates JWs, and stays in a post 1945-1960 UN position, that has now been superceded by the 3rd UN placement of 1990, that Bethel?

I G N O R E S.

Bethel ignores Global NATO, they ignore global finance and massive national debt swindle set-up, and they ignore globalization trends indicating a final cycle is gearing up, a cycle, not a slam dunk end.

And worse, Bethel became a UN NGO UN PARTNER? Are you getting the picture Steve, of what is REALLY happening INSIDE of Bethel’s leadership? (Dan8:12, Dan11:30b-32a) You telling me joining the UN is what the Christian anointed leaders do to Christ’s anointed betrothed remnant “body”? You are in agreement with being a UN partner organization?

JW UN NGO Prophecy, Information and Details

JW UN NGO – Tip of the Iceberg of Bethel Subversion

Let me be clear, because this WILL AFFECT YOU in time: Bethel is the final signal apostasy to trigger a divine judgment WELL BEFORE Christ arrives so everything can be explained by ANOINTED, approved, Christians coming from that MASSIVE judgment. (Dan8:13-14, Zech3:1-7, Matt25:1-13) You will, God willing, see that judgment, it goes on for the whole Daniel 8:14 VERIFICATION TIMING AND PHASING (Dan8:14, 26). You can doubt now, in time you will be more responsive to this judgment message on Bethel first as per 1Peter 4:17, imo.

I am not sharing in Bethel’s UN (Matt24:15) and other sins, I am pointing them out because they will in time require the judgment desolation of Daniel 8:13-14.

JWs – FLEE The JW Org!! – Matthew24:15

How to Set-Up JWs Like 8th King Sitting Ducks

Bethel Hoax: Premature End Expectation

TIME will prove my standing before God Almighty by virtue of Jesus Christ (Acts 5:38-40) and God’s prophecy now being hi-jacked and discredited by hypocrite lawless apostate Bethel by great deception and infiltration, very gradually, now it is terminal. Now some JWs are getting wind of the Bethel UN NGO dead Camel they gulp down, amidst the gnats JWs are sent out to hunt down as a diversion in the congregations; it is all a big JW distraction operation.

Second: You are under the impression that people as a whole know about 1 Thessalonians 5:3.

I think my post was clear: MANY, not all, Christian influenced people, including JWs, are affected by the “peace and security” prophecy.

“Once we see the purpose of this premature delusion we know it has to be used. It can fool not just Jehovah’s witnesses but much of nominal Christendom.”

And that is why that expectation, primed prematurely, can be used against all those expecting that prophecy.

I am speaking to them specifically, but anyone can read 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 to get the gist of God’s prophecy penned by Paul.

(1 Thessalonians 5:1-5) Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape. 4 But you, brothers, you are not in darkness, so that that day should overtake you as it would thieves, 5 for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We belong neither to night nor to darkness.

But is everyone in the light today? Does Bethel apostasy help light things up? No. (Matt25:5) Not all will understand the meaning of this cycle as it begins, but in time many will and the Bethel apostasy and its judgment (1Pet4:17, Dan8:13-14) is the event that will help explain the final cycle. (Rev8:3-5, Rev8-11) It WILL get rid of the obstacle by God’s power, not men or “reformers”.

The whole 1914-1919 prophecy of Daniel and Revelation applicability must REPEAT, and that is why maintaining the validity of that cycle is important, it [already] explains the final cycle results in “League of Nations”, “United Nations” principle and cycle, united into full world government over the final cycle.

And that is why 1914 is under attack, and Bethel hypocrisy and publicly known lawlessness indirectly aids the discrediting of the whole JW ministry. Coming on that realization as real apostasy, is what is difficult for JWs to accept, that Bethel is now “King North” 8th King guided apostasy as per Daniel 11:32a and Daniel 11:41, “entered”, defected and infiltrated as per Daniel 11:30-31 and Daniel 8:12, fully seen since 1990.

In fact much of Christendom’s masses understand the gist of the prophecy as well. And this is also known by the rival global powers, they can use an impression of that prophecy, too soon, as a hoax statement, perceived as intended in Christendom and JWs, to get a certain reaction from [many] professed Christians and whole ministries. It then promotes the premature end delusion of 2Thessalonians 2:1-2, when Bethel’s apostasy has yet to be “revealed” by God, fully, globally. The “reaction” is a premature expectation that paralyzes deeper insight in to what will actually be an 8th King strategist maneuver.

In that way they can attempt to bring in full world government over that cycle, without valid warning as to what it means, while even JWs and Christendom prophecy interpretation is being fully discredited, because it will not be “the end”, it will be the final 8th King UN cycle beginning, and will result in full 8th King world government.

Because it is so ironed in to the JW brain, I feel it is certain to emerge to mislead JWs for a while (Hos6:1-3), amidst Bethel organizational “trampling” making it look like the real end to many (Dan8:13); but of course that really is, in spite of all the evidence, my opinion. I feel JWs and [just about] everyone else, globally, is not aware just how “in tune” and unified the world government planners are, for discrediting all Christian prophecy as they bring in the nemesis world government system to completion. (and at the end of that cycle, the total deposition of all global religion in Babylon the Great; (Rev17:11-18, Rev16:12-19)

Thus if they did succeed, which they will not (Rev11:1-7 repeating), but they will for a while, they would slip in the 8th King full world government with no warning as to its colossal ramifications: it triggers Christ’s arrival.


The less people know, the more likely they will meet with destruction at that time (Rev14:9-11), thus the goal of concealing the real meaning of this final cycle IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SATAN, THE 8TH KING AND APOSTATE BETHEL, because now they are all working together.

Third: It is clear you are trying to understand future events which is important to salvation. However, whether you are right or wrong, this knowledge will not benefit you in the end. This prophecy concerns a trigger for future events for the final destruction of wicked mankind.

This is because you, understandably at this time, fail to realize COMPLETE 8th King WORLD GOVERNMENT is what triggers Christ’s arrival, and the “peace and security” is their final sovereign full world rulership TO BE GLOBALLY KNOWN in that final global statement and claim [period] (Rev17:12). Thus knowing that is of great benefit for salvation, the WHOLE final period must also be open for salvation. ALL of Revelation 14:1-16, which Matthew 24:30-31 leads to in 144000 completion, is OPEN FOR SALVATION!

Bethel is concealing the FACT, not opinion, the whole “tribulation of those days”, and its included 1260 days, and the WHOLE Daniel 12:11 1290 day period are OPEN FOR SALVATION. VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW! People can be saved all through the “tribulation of those days”, all through 8th King world government, all through BTG judgment (Rev11:13, Rev14:6-8). ONLY at the very end, Revelation 14:17-20 parallel Matthew 25:41-46 are “goats” removed.

Rather, many will benefit as this completion is part of the whole completion of Revelation 10:5-11, Revelation 11, and Revelation 16:12-20. Thus once we know that 8th King WORLD GOVERNMENT will complete, beyond but including the UN “image”, its nucleus, then we know the “peace and security” is the final WORLD PEACE PROCLAMATION OF COMPLETE 8TH KING WORLD GOVERNMENT!

Even after they discredit the prophecy at the start of that cycle (Dan11:42-45), in time world government completion has to become globally known, and thus the REAL “peace and security” has the greatest meaning as Daniel 11:44-45 converges in Daniel 12:11, and Daniel 8:25 culminates in that parallel “freedom from care” that that “peace and security” is in final form the parallel of.

Thus the complete 8th King world government “peace and security” is a final milestone, along with the destruction of Babylon the Great concurrent (for BTG deposition aids world peace believability), FULL FINAL SIGNALS OF Christ’s assured full arrival, the FINAL full signal after 8th King world government completes. And because Daniel 8:14 and Daniel 12:7 (Rev11:2-3, Rev13:5) YEARS must yet unfold into Daniel 12:11 (in which Christ arrives as Rev11:11-12), even you can benefit when the prophecy, fully cross referenced and cross-tested, based on the first JW 1914-1919 cycle truth, REPEATS and manifests according to the prophecy; it is ALREADY there, Bethel is just concealing it, and that is why they are removed in big events, FIRST. (1Pet4:17, Rev8)

Now JWs being overly busy so as not to keep up with BIBLE STUDY AND CURRENT GLOBALIZATION AND WORLD GOVERNMENT FORMING EVENTS, is how JWs have also been affected in this Matthew 25:5 “nod off” in the “delay” since 1919, and the 1976 diversion GB inception.

TIME is what will test this forecast. You will see, imo and the way prophecy aligns imo, (1) Bethel apostasy judged, (2) a final warning will emerge, (3) into the “tribulation of those days”, and it will head to (4) full 8th King world government, (5) before Christ arrives and then (6) BTG final deposition as Christ “gathers” as well from that judgment (Rev14:6-8, Rev11:13), already arrived and present.

Making people think the “tribulation of those days” was the end, aided the process. And this is why the “tribulation of those days” ends BEFORE Christ even arrives, he arrives into the 8th King world government completion, AFTER it completes and STATES its signal “world peace” proclamation of 1Thessalonians 5:1-3.

Basically the whole pattern of 1914-1919 REPEATS.

1. Master Pattern: What was a Kingdom ministry, that deployed into an active WW1, that led to the League of Nations world government foundation REPEATS those same principles, but to completion. What was the Christendom apostasy announcement is also a repeating theme, as it was in that original JW ministry.

2. Repeat: Now a re-affirmed Kingdom ministry (second witness), deploys into an active “tribulation of those days”, that leads to the full 8th King world government REPEATING the same master cycle meaning, but to completion. What was the Christendom apostasy announcement is now the Bethel apostasy announcement, as also a repeating theme, as it was in that original JW ministry.

The Bethel apostasy being judged, begins that final cycle.


I hope you are comfortable with classic Christian anointed prophecy understanding as spearheaded in accuracy by Jehovah’s witnesses up to the point of gradual apostasy and “simplification” that results in losing track of all prophecy, and 8th King UN “image” developments since 1990 in full swing at sleeping Bethel.

Although others like Robert King (1914 is a delusion), Perimeno (1914 upheld), AnointedJW (1914 irrelevant), Pearl Doxsey (1914 upheld), Cedars (atheist), e-JW (1914 upheld), Thirdwitness (1914 upheld), Donald Burney (1914 upheld?), Borean (Pickets1914 upheld), H. Melvag, and others, who see the Bethel apostasy and lawless state, not all see the temple judgment indicated in that development, and it being EXPLICITLY, FULLY DESCRIBED, 100%, in prophecy, prophecy Bethel is subverting as policy. (WT 3/15/2015)


Of course the hijacking of the last point of anointed Christian development to today’s JW apostate condition (Zech3:3), is GOING TO BE FULLY FORETOLD BY GOD! What are we thinking, this is all a big mystery of random hypocrisy at Bethel? No way, no how, God foretells fully the who, when, what, why and how of the Bethel apostasy. (Dan8:11-13, Dan11:30-35, 41; 2Thess2:1-4, Zech3:1-3)

Unlike some of those other JW commentators who doubt 1914, I maintain ALL the valid Jehovah’s witnesses foundational Revelation and Daniel 12 prophetic patterns of 1914, and the whole 1914-1919, 1919-1922, 1922-1926 Daniel timed periods AND THEIR MINISTERIAL MEANING OF THOSE PERIODS. I do not knock Charles Russell, Joseph Rutherford, Nathan Knorr or Fred Franz, I REAFFIRM the truths they ALL pioneered. THEY, BY GOD THROUGH CHRIST, PROVIDED THE FOUNDATION, THAT EXPLAINS THE FINAL CYCLE; ALREADY THERE.

I point out post 1990, is when Bethel went full apostate prophetic subverters and UN NGO.

Repeating Cycles: The Whole Prophecy Repeats Starting With The Temple Judgment Portion

[I just tell people IT ALL REPEATS, TWO, 2 WITNESSES.] One cannot throw away the foundation, and yet understand what is now forming as many JW commentators out there are doing, aiding the subversion in the process. 1914 is valid prophecy in all regards.


I point out the modern apostasy as well, that the “Governing Body” is NOT a Biblical entity nor divine nor a legal authority over anointed Christians (2Cor11:13-15), in fact they are the means the ministry was hi-jacked AGAINST the advice of Nathan Knorr and Fred Franz ALONE in dissension against that dictatorship. (Rev8:10-11, 2Thess2:1-4)

It is in the prophecy portion Bethel now actively conceals by subversion:

Bethel Apostasy Foretold in Daniel 8 and 11

Therefore there is no one on the Web, who so thoroughly defends Jehovah’s witnesses foundational truths, only PROVING where the GB are diverting from realty in 1990 concerning ONLY Daniel 8:11-25, and Daniel 11:27-45 as ALL 8th King final convergent sovereign climax, not the USSR and not the 7th King Anglo-American alliance. But WORLD GOVERNMENT is what Daniel 8 and 11 culminate into. (Dan8:25, Dan11:45) The 7th King MUST fall:

7th King Downfall – Isaiah’s and Ezekiel’s Prophecy – “Egypt” Pronouncements as Modern Nation-State System Parallels in the Final Tribulation Cycle

8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”

The End of National Sovereignty, Not The End of the World

So I hope you are ready to discuss CLASSIC JW anointed prophecy because I know it inside and out, and I know where the subversion is occurring in only a portion of the prophecy in its 1990 related late developments that the 3rd UN placement of 1990 AFFIRMS is significant in spite of the fact Bethel IGNORES that 3rd placement.

I only overturn modern Bethel apostasy, I do not call into question the whole JW ministry.

Jehovah’s Witnesses Valid Kingdom Ministry and Preview Master Pattern of Prophecy That Must Repeat (1914-1919)

Why This JW Testimony is Unique

If you are appreciative of the work of anointed Christians to establish that prophetic foundation for God by Christ, then this should be the more important love of your life, PROPHECY is God’s direct deepest communication to anointed Christians (Rev1:1, 2Pet1:19-21), to be made known to others as it emerges fully. (Rev10:11). I hope you are engaging and confident in what JWs should know fully by now, like the back of their hands, because without the foundation of original JW truth, there is no longer any anchor or truth to appeal to. The original JW ministry set the stage for the whole process to Christ’s full arrival.


1914’s Main Validation? World Government and World History

Of that list of JW apologists and critics above, ONLY Perimeno, Thirdwitness and myself defend 1914, the last time I checked. EVERYONE ELSE is doubting 1914.


Because the 1914-1919 pattern in that first cycle, is the master pattern of the final cycle, all truth is equated in the 1914-1919 cycle. Thus discarding the first pattern and the first JW ministry, is as good as missing the whole ministerial theme and sovereign meaning of impending certainty of final conflict when Christ arrives on COMPLETE 8th King world government.

Repeating Cycles: The Whole Prophecy Repeats Starting With The Temple Judgment Portion


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  1. On behalf of the truth, I contradict your statement that I view 1914 as irrelevant. Quite the contrary. (
    But it’s genuine significance is evident, after one realizes that the “labor pains” (Mark13:8) then initiated, are naturally BEFORE the kingdom’s “birth” (Rev.12:2)…NOT a result of it.

    Isa.1:21 reads, “See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her– but now murderers!”
    Yes, as you assert about the early days of the WT…”once full of justice”.
    How did a “resting place” of God’s chosen people become corrupted, oppressive, and apostate?
    (Rev.8:10,11; 9:1-3; 20:7,8; 16:13-16; 17:14; 13:11 and Rev.19:20 explains. (Luke12:42,45,46; Hosea6:5; Rev.11:5)
    Please do not mislead the public, concerning my assertions. It may very well be fine fruit in this time of famine (Matt.7:20).

    1. I apologize, my error, I’ll update it. I am glad to find those understanding 1914 significance, for the events of that era are significant, and will update that accidental uninformed falsehood. I did not look deeply enough into your stuff, but I feel you are well aware of Bethel’s apostate status and that it is a major signal prophecy.

      What I was trying to point out, which I lumped you into a 1914 discreditor, was how many now call 1914 a delusion. So I will update that statement as I am now aware you feel 1914 era, events and or prophecy is indeed significant.

      I apologize, my oversight.

  2. Thank you. I hope to make clear, that I do not uphold the WT’s reason for giving 1914 significance (the birth of God’s Kingdom/Christ begins to reign). I know that the scriptures indicate that Jesus was ruling in the first century, and that the man of lawlessness must arise and trample down God’s Temple priesthood, previous to the advent of God’s Kingdom. Yet to clarify again… the turn of the 20th century is of great prophetic significance. I hope that those who wish to know the correlation between prophecy and our era, will read: (

    1. You’re welcome. Here is a map to Christ arrival in global events yet to occur in a prophecy order present in those prophecies as one “time of the end” whole that hinges its inception of the JW apostasy and downfall of Daniel 8:13-14:

      Final Prophecy Continuum (Gauged on Seven Trumpets by Temple Judgment Time, Takes More Than a Decade from Temple Judgment Time)

      I. Apostasy, Judgment, Accounting and Recovery of Jehovah’s Witnesses

      Now: JW inspection (completing or complete; Zech3:1-5; 2Thess2:1-4);

      Now: Bethel Apostasy and Lawlessness Signal of Judgment; (2Thess2:1-12; Zech3:1-3; Dan8:11-12; Dan11:30-35);


      1. “Tribulation of those Days” Context Begins; (Matt24:15; Dan8:13; Dan11:41 (now), 42-43 (soon); Dan21:1b); Sword stroke of Rev13:3 initial context Dan11:41-43

      2. 8th King Activates Daniel 11:42-45 Final Cycle; (Rev16:13-16; Rev17:11-18);

      A. Daniel 11:42-45 Must Converge with Daniel 12 Final Fulfillment;

      3. Jehovah’s Witnesses Temple Judgment Starts (1Pet4:17; Mal3:1-5; Dan8:13-14; Rev8:1-6; Matt25:1-13);

      A. Temple is Desolated, Purified (Zech3:4-5) and Recovered (Rev9): Daniel 8:14 “Right Condition” Temple Purification Reached; (Dan8:13-14);

      II. Recovery, Final Commission, Final Warning, Learning Application

      1. Final Kingdom Ministry Commission; (Rev9-11; Zech3:6-7; Matt24:45-47);

      2. Final Kingdom Invitation and Warning Deploys; (Rev9, Rev 11:1-6);

      3. “Tribulation of Those Days” Context Ends (Matt24:29; Isa41:1) into:

      A. Final Kingdom Warning Ceased; (Rev11:7-10; Dan11:44);

      III. Rival World Government Completions of 8th King

      1. World Government – National Sovereign Conglomeration Completes into 8th King World Government; (Rev16:12-16; Rev 17:11-18); BTG to be deposed before full “world peace” of 1Thess5:1-3;

      A. 8th King World Government World “Peace and Security” and World Recovery; (Dan8:25; 11:44-45; 12:11; 1Thess5:1-3 globally stated world peace sovereignty; Dan8:25 “freedom from care” parallel; Isa41:1 world recovery);

      2. Christ Arrival; Anointed Sheep Gathering, Earth Sheep Last* (Dan12:1, Matt24:29-31; 25:31-46; Rev11:11-13; Rev19:11-16; Rev1:7; Rev6:12-17);

      A. Christ Completes Messianic Kingdom 144000; (Rev11:11-12; Rev7:1-8; Rev14:1);

      B. Christ Messianic Kingdom King-Priest Coronation; (Zech4:6-9; 6:9-15; Dan7:26);

      (All the following takes place under complete Messianic Kingdom “Court” of Daniel 7:26:)

      C. Babylon the Great Deposed; (Rev16:17-19; Rev17:15-18; Rev14:8);

      D. *Sheep Gathering/Goat Determination Finalized; (Mat24:31-46; Rev14:14-20);

      3. Armageddon; 8th King Deposition and Messianic Kingdom Conquest; (Rev11:15; Rev19:19-21);

      4. Christ’s Messianic Kingdom 1000 Years Rule

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