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Revelation 19 “Great Crowd in Heaven” compared to Revelation 7 “Great Crowd” in Prophecy Clues

Revelation 19 “Great Crowd in Heaven” compared to Revelation 7 “Great Crowd” in Prophecy Clues

To understand how the “great crowd” is different but both heavenly in one group (Rev19:1) and earthly in the Revelation 7 post Great Tribulation group first we show how they are different in their sequence in prophecy. This will show you how the “great crowd in heaven” is “in heaven” even before Christ has conquered the world to even deliver the Revelation 7 “great crowd” in the first place, thus an earthly situated “great crowd” appearing last in the sequence of the two.

Because people sometimes use Revelation 19:1-6 to also imply the Revelation 7 “great crowd” is “in heaven” we will use some logic and the prophecy’s own sequence to show this Revelation 19 “great crowd in heaven” is doing these things BEFORE the Great Tribulation deliverance of Revelation 7:9-17. The deliverance of the Revelation 7 “great crowd” would have to occur with the Revelation 19:11-21 events of White Horse Christ in Kingdom Conquest Mode thus AFTER the “great crowd in heaven” of Revelation 19:1-6 in that Revelation 19 prophecy order of events.

Clue 1

The simplest clue is that the Revelation 7 “great crowd” has to “come out of the great tribulation” with this Revelation 19:11-21 event below, thus AFTER this Christ global conquest: event symbolically depicted here from where it starts:

(Revelation 19:11) And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 

Thus the Revelation 19:1-6 “great crowd in heaven” was in heaven EVEN BEFORE Christ went into global conquest mode. As you know the “great crowd in heaven” described in Revelation 19:1-6 is already present BEFORE the Christ conquest of Revelation 19:11-21:

(Revelation 19:1-3) After these things I heard what was as a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven. They said: “Praise Jah, you people! The salvation and the glory and the power belong to our God, 2 because his judgments are true and righteous. For he has executed judgment upon the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication, and he has avenged the blood of his slaves at her hand.” 3 And right away for the second time they said: “Praise Jah, you people! And the smoke from her goes on ascending forever and ever.”

Thus to be a “great crowd in heaven” Christ would have already delivered them with the Revelation 19:11-21 events. BUT that would be out of the Revelation 19 order of events.

Clue 2

Now, since the “great crowd in heaven” here is shown with the statement of the  Babylon the Great “harlot” destruction this “great crowd in heaven” could seem to be in the same timing as the Revelation 7 “great crowd” which would also be delivered with and after the BTG conquest.

But on closer inspection this same “great crowd in heaven” is present before the “marriage of the lamb” is complete that is still before the event of Revelation 19:11 which would lead to the marriage event. But since the Bride is complete, just no marriage yet, the Bride is shown complete here:

(Revelation 19:6-8) And I heard what was as a voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders. They said: “Praise Jah, you people, because Jehovah our God, the Almighty, has begun to rule as king. 7 Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself. 8 Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones.”

Now the complete Bride is shown complete as well, here below too, but as all 144000 symbolized completion as the “Bride” parallel, which the “great crowd in  heaven” also described in regard to the coming marriage in Revelation 19:6-8:

(Revelation 14:1) And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. 

So, the “great crowd in heaven” is again present before the Revelation 7 deliverance of the “great crowd” in Revelation 14:14-16 in the Christ Global Sheep Sweep first priority phase. The “great crowd” of Revelation 7 would be “harvested” with this Revelation 14:14-16 salvation event below, of course after Revelation 14:1 Bride completion:

(Revelation 14:14-16) And I saw, and, look! a white cloud, and upon the cloud someone seated like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

So the “great crowd in heaven” which made the Revelation 14:1 Bride Completion announcement of Revelation 19:6-8 is also present before the “great crowd” ” harvest of the earth” has even been completed in Revelation 14:14-16.

And the “marriage of the lamb” MUST take place AFTER the actual event of the global conquest of Revelation 19:11-21 which will deliver the Revelation 7 “great crowd” as the “harvest of the earth”. So the “great crowd in heaven” is different as it exists in heaven even before the Revelation 7 “great crowd” is delivered by Christ with the actual events of Revelation 19:11-21.

(In all fairness, this is if the Revelation 19 and Revelation 14 sequences are whole unbroken sequence timelines of the post-Christ arrival final events which it seems that is the case because that final sequence is very important and it only occurs in these two places in such a totally complete form in Revelation 14 and 19.)

Clue 3:  Coming Down [to Earth] from Heaven

Many view this long range overview but forget this too initially begins with the Revelation 14:1 and Revelation 19:11 Christ arrival event phases:

(Revelation 21:1-4) 21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

Thus, the “temple” and “throne” are part of the “holy city” which is “coming down from heaven” and being made accessible to humans. It will come down fully accessible here as the 1000 years completes:

(Revelation 22:12-14) “‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. 14 Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority [to go] to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates. 

The “coming down” as in “coming” as a process means the effect of “God’s will done on Earth” is a process from the start of Revelation 7:9-17 to completion of full accessibility as in the “tree of life” granted perfect sinless state, and that human sinlessness takes sometime to achieve to get here. When this below is a reality for here it is just being described, this would even have to become a reality opportunity after Satan and the demons are destroyed because they are the final test period which has to be passed to even get here:

(Revelation 22:14) 14 Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority [to go] to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates. 

By that time under the 1000 Year Reign of Christ, the heavenly “Bride” is already the “New Jerusalem” totally complete and pictured as accessible on Earth there. Thus, HUMANS are who are given accessibility to the “holy city” “by its gates” by that time fully on Earth upon complete obedience to God after the 1000 years has completed and after Satan has been destroyed.

Thus, more than just the “great crowd” will eventually be able to access the eternal life in those “trees of life”; but obedience to God and guarded sinlessness is required as in Eden, Adam and Eve’s failure into disobedience to God barred them access to the “tree of life”.

But the meaning is the same FOR HUMANS, conquer Satan and access  “tree of life” irremovable everlasting life after the final test is passed. Adam and the woman already had “everlasting life”. The “tree of life” they were barred from is an extension of the nature of that “everlasting life”. It would be human immortality based on total testing passed, THAT is what Adam and Eve were prevented from accessing, “indestructible life”.

(Genesis 3:22) And Jehovah God went on to say: “Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite.

Adam and the woman already could live forever while sinless yet with the condition of absolute obedience to God. (Gen2:16-17) So, this “tree of life” is of a different nature of that same “everlasting life” state. (Heb7:16) Now had Christ remained human he would have been granted access to the “tree of life”. In a heavenly way his “indestructible life” is how by complete testing of faithfulness in absolute obedience to God he has accessed “IMMORTALITY” a the final divine nature of “everlasting life” which he also already possessed:

(Hebrews 7:15-17) And it is still more abundantly clear that with a similarity to Melchizedek there arises another priest, 16 who has become such, not according to the law of a commandment depending upon the flesh, but according to the power of an indestructible life, 17 for in witness it is said: “You are a priest forever according to the manner of Melchizedek.”

Since that “indestructible life” is now to be “plugged in” to planet Earth’s planetary life system by means of Jesus Christ’s rulership to remove the Satan “having the means to cause death” (Heb2:14), it will affect ALL LIFE of planet earth in a positive manner commensurate with Christ immortal nature, as God has perfect understanding of how and why this is his “will be done on Earth”:

(Psalm 133:3) 3 It is like the dew of Hermon That is descending upon the mountains of Zion. For there Jehovah commanded the blessing [of] life to time indefinite.

So it is already beyond imagination:

(1 Corinthians 2:9-10) But just as it is written: “Eye has not seen and ear has not heard, neither have there been conceived in the heart of man the things that God has prepared for those who love him.” 10 For it is to us God has revealed them through his spirit, for the spirit searches into all things, even the deep things of God.

BUT it has yet to become reality, but it will. Obedience to God equates to immortality in time upon full testing of faith.

Note on Christ Arrival Priorities

(From previous reply, Btw, the article version coming soon God willing will have a distinction explained about Christ arriving “with the clouds” to sweep sheep first as in Matt24:31, which would secure the Rev7 “great crowd” before Rev19:11 events of the “with power and great glory” totally manifested Christ conquest. But Revelation 19:11-21 FINALIZES the deliverance as Revelation 7:9-17 would be the FINALIZED aftermath, of the finale prophetic description; even if the “great crowd” was secured beforehand, it is still delivered at Revelation 14:14-16.)

But by Revelation 21 it is clear Earth is the target of “let your Kingdom come” and “let your will take place ON EARTH” “as in heaven”.

It just becomes a “seamless” reality between God’s will done in heaven first, and God’s will done ON EARTH last, as one perfect whole well beyond human understanding but understandable to the full capacity of the then perfect human brain and mind. HUGELY different than it is now, to say the least.)

What is to be explained and scripturally cross referenced is the Christ arrival has two objectives in securing sheep prior to the conquest mode and these have scriptural prophetic references to know each occurrence. Thus, we know all the global-conquest references have to be after the sheep are globally secured as the final objective is the global conquest of the wild beast system. In the sheep securement phase, Christ has to arrive to complete the 1Thessalonians 4:17 heavenly sheep aspect first, to be in full “Messianic Kingdom” mode complete, then the rest of the sheep are secured to comprise the “great crowd” of which as explained earlier some sheep are very very “new” sheep.

Another thing to realize is Christ has to render the first Messianic Kingdom judgment (Dan7:26; Matt24:31) by the secured sheep approval and then the BTG judgment from which downfall some final sheep in that bondage are freed to salvation as concurrent with BTG’s judgment, hence Revelation 14:8. Christ renders the judgment even if the wild beast is who destroys the Babylon the Great corporate religious system. Thus, Christ has to be in a “parousia-like” covert stealth mode first for those initial sheep-sweep operations globally (which can take a little time, hence Daniel12:11’s timing allowance for that time required.).

In line with the concept of “parousia” AND the to be clearly known Open Salvation “Week” (Dan9:27) composed of the 1260 days (Dan12:7; Rev11:2-3) and 1290 days (Dan12:11) “week” of approximate seven years, we can know Christ arrives after the 1260 days ends as will be shown. The reason why this is explained is because we can know from prophecy the Christ arrival timeline and priority by scriptural cross reference.

(Now someone may say “I thought he already was in the Parousia? How can there be two? Well unlike the coronation in God’s Kingdom event “parousia” to oversee all this from heaven, this time Christ is “in the air” of Revelation 16:17-20 and 1Thessaloninas 4:17 in direct personal location of planet Earth. So this “parousia” is unique and directly in the Earth target of Matthew 6:10.)

Christ’s Arrival Global Sheep Sweep and Conquest Phasing

The main priority order of Christ is salvation first and conquest last which can also be plainly proven by the Matthew 25:31-46 and Revelation 14:14-20 sequences where the sheep are secured first then the goats are deposed. Thus, we can assume the salvation arrival FIRST portion is a “parousia” like stealth event to secure sheep all over the world right under the nose of complete world government by that time.

(Psalm 110:2) The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:] “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.”

And we can assume the global-conquest mode FINAL OBJECTIVE OF CHRIST is plainly visible for obvious reasons, and that Christ can use BOTH the “with the clouds” parousia first mode in covert means for sheep sweeping and then the “with power and great glory” when in conquest mode as all the sheep are safely out of the main global battle zones for Christ’s termination of the forces of world government “scarlet wildbeast”. (Rev17:8-18 full final sequence)

(Matthew 24:29-31) 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days (as 1260 days ends) the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (first the 7th King old world order to 8th King new world order system shocks) 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

Thus, the Matthew 24:31 events are in mostly “with the clouds” stealth  parousia mode to perform the global “sheep sweep”, to complete the anointed gathering to spirit form (first) and to then proceed to gather all the earth sheep first in the priority. Even though Matthew 24:29-31 does not show any destruction mode yet, we can know Matthew 24:31 sheep sweep is the first and main priority at Christ arrival which precedes the conquest manifestation of Revelation 19:11.

That means the Revelation 14:1 144000 completion is secured first which completes the “Messianic Kingdom” allowing Christ to be crowned by God “King of kings” thus this is the global-conquest mode of Christ as King of kings in a complete Messianic Kingdom, after the sheep are all secured:

(Revelation 19:11-16) And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. 14 Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. 15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

Symbolic “Week” of Open Salvation Offer

The Open Salvation Offer in global actuality:

(Revelation 14:6-8) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.” 8 And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

This means this Christ arrival mode has to be when Christ is already crowned “King of kings” in the Messianic Kingdom thus after the initial first priority global sheep sweep is complete for they are delivered by the official earthly sovereign “Messianic Kingdom” entity carrying out its first promise of the “new government” yet not in fully globally conquered mode, yet.

To get there that final 1260 days is a global appeal period to inform others of the certainty of the Christ arrival as that period ends. We can show in the prophecy that the 1260 days and 1290 days have a transition in Daniel 12:7 and Daniel 12:11 as Revelation 11:7-8 indicates. Thus, Christ arrives in the already initially active 1290 day period as will be explained as we proceed to explain fully how to know the 1290 days activation dual- criteria and which prophecy (Rev11:7-12) is the final symbolic period (Rev11:8) to merge into that Daniel 12:11 1290 days period just starting up.

Thus, for the eventual logic in this article that 1260 days and 1290 days forms a symbolic “week” of years with notable events to mark it as being the 1260 days pre-Christ arrival signal final appeal period and the 1290 days period is to be post-Christ arrival OPEN SALVATION GUARANTEED ALLOWANCE period that takes a little time, but with Christ arrived for the sheep sweep mode, first. (Matt24:29-31; Rev16:17; 1Thess4:17; Rev11:11-12; Matt24:31; Rev14:1)

This is important to know because in that prelude 1260 days to Christ arrival-to-its-actuality in a symbolic “week” of OPEN SALVATION (which will be described as we proceed) we know what leads to Christ arrival in the 1260 days “second witness” of the “TWO witnesses” which has to complete first as per Revelation 11:7.

Thus its very “Christ arrival” “little scroll” subject matter of that Revelation 11:2-3 1260 day final warning and global open salvation announcement exactly precedes the very Christ arrival event it is to be warning of in a complete totally affirmable summary:

(Revelation 10:5-7) And the angel that I saw standing on the sea and on the earth raised his right hand to heaven, 6 and by the One who lives forever and ever, who created the heaven and the things in it and the earth and the things in it and the sea and the things in it, he swore: “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

When Christ arrives in the “mid week”, post 1260 days sequence, what he does first is save sheep and thus that will be in the 1290 day period already in initial activation. That final period’s 1260 days and the 1290 days must be ALL OPEN FOR SALVATION. That 1290 days is the final part of that open salvation “week” and the conquest mode of Christ concludes the 1290 day final allowance period. Now we know global sheep securement process can have plenty of time in the Daniel 12:11 1290 days, active to some brief degree, to complete that sheep-sweep process and why it exists with such a time frame.

Open Salvation Week Proof

Now that final “week” for OPEN SALVATION PURPOSES is shown in two Bible prophecies in principle of what is to be applied to the final open salvation “week” based on seven lunar years composed of the 1260 days and 1290 days (lunar 7.083 years; solar 6.99 years). Now for example one, the principle exists here in Noah’s day where God gave a final warning to Noah seven days, a week, prior to the deluge flood:

(Genesis 7:4-5) For in just seven days more I am making it rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and I will wipe every existing thing that I have made off the surface of the ground.” 5 And Noah proceeded to do according to all that Jehovah had commanded him.

Now keep in mind the 1260 days and the 1290 days form a rounded “week” of years WITH THE SAME PURPOSE: SALVATION OFFER AND WARNING. So in the indirect principle of the the main Jesus Christ pattern itself here we have the real proof of the “week” principle that although applying to the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, ALSO has the same principle elements in the final appeal period features as will be explained:

(Daniel 9:27) “And he must keep [the] covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease.

We know the “holy covenant” principle of human salvation is “in force” for many people GLOBALLY for “one week” as we extend this pattern to the actual final seven year “week” that precedes the full application of the Christ sacrifice to initially save people from 8th King caused “great tribulation” and the Christ conquest event of the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” which deposes the “goats”.

(This prophecy has a very direct fulfillment in the time of Jesus Christ, BUT we can use the spirit of the salvation to know Christ’s main pattern is applicable to the climax “time of the end” Bible prophecy as well when its actuality becomes globally realized.

This time at the Daniel 9:27 principle “half of the week”, that is now to be defined at the end of the 1260 days completed into also the final appeal’s “two witnesses” “constant feature” ceased as Christ ARRIVES with salvation for sheep; while in initial fulfillment Christ died to “cease gift offering” and to secure this very global salvation and now they will simultaneously co-relate in final form! Now, THAT is no accident!)

And this Daniel 9:27 “week” of salvation MIDPOINT is to be marked in this principle pattern by the Revelation 11:7-10 “cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease” “at the half of the week” as the 1260 days ends which is another way of terming the cessation of the “constant feature” “gift offering” in Daniel 9:27’s principle.

In the first case, Christ was killed to mark that midpoint with his sacrifice and ministerial “gift offering” “constant feature” ceased. IN the future case, we can prove the 1260 days ends in Revelation 11:7-10 to ALSO be marked by the cessation of the final “two witnesses” appeal’s “constant feature” as also to be ceased (in the final warning cancelled by “abyss” ascendant world government; Rev11:7). And that “constant feature” cessation will mark the “half of the week”, that is the 1260 days expired. Now that 1260 days expired has to be followed by the 1290 day period in part signified as active by that “two witnesses” “constant feature” removal of the future, which we can see the parallel below:

(Daniel 12:11) “And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed (Rev11:7 final warning ceased) and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation (as complete world government), there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Now, the “there has been a placing of the disgusting thing” is a completion of the “disgusting thing” global- placement as 8th King world government in complete worldwide form when in final cycle of the future. Now, we can connect this Revelation 11:7 “killing” of the “two witnesses” AND the wildbeast “abyss ascension” as direct parallel of that Daniel 12:11 activation dual- criteria when BOTH those two prophetic features of globally seen events are globally present, at the same time:

(Revelation 11:7) And when they have finished their witnessing (1260 days completed), the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss (Rev17:8-12) will make war with them and conquer them and kill them.

That “wildbeast” “abyss ascension” (Rev17:8-12) occurs concurrent globally with also the “killing” of the “two witnesses” as the parallel of the Daniel 12:11 “the time that the constant [feature] has been removed” AND that while the “abyss ascension” of the “disgusting thing that is causing desolation” as the completion of 8th King Scarlet Wildbeast World Government is also globally official; thus BOTH criteria features of the Daniel 12:11 prophecy period will be present and thus the 1290 day activation benchmark will be present as notable for people’s information at that time.

Christ will then arrive when the “two witnesses” “three and a half day” “death state” has expired directly into the Revelation 11:11-12 Christ arrival parallel.

Merging the 1260 Days Expiration into the 1290 Days by the “Three and a Half Day” “Death State” of the “Two Witnesses”

Thus, the cessation of the “two witnesses” “second witnessing” “constant feature” final warning appeal in the deep final cycle future must also define the “killing” of the “two witnesses” by the cessation of their final warning appeal ministry which then activates that final “three and a half days” period to expire into the Christ arrival parallel of Revelation 11:11-12.

So we know this final symbolic period of “three and a half days” will be short, it must be in the 1290 days as carried out by then complete world government international law defining both Daniel 12:11 1290 activation criteria and that its symbolic “three and a half day” expiration leads to this Christ arrival parallel as the FINAL prophetic period required to expire just prior to Christ arrival:

(Revelation 11:11-13) And after the three and a half days spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon those beholding them. 12 And they heard a loud voice out of heaven say to them: “Come on up here.” (Matt24:31; 1Thess4:17 parallel) And they went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies beheld them. 

Thus, the “thee and a half days” activated after the 1260 days has expired as in Revelation 11:7, must merge into the 1290 days period to mark the cessation of the “constant feature” in its Daniel 12:11 criteria portion.

Salvation Reference:

(Revelation 11: 13) And in that hour (Rev17:12) a great earthquake occurred, and a tenth of the city fell; and seven thousand persons were killed by the earthquake, and the rest became frightened and gave glory to the God of heaven.

The Revelation 11:13 “kills” are a salvation symbol in which the symbolic “7000” and the “tenth of the city” are salvation meanings. Since Babylon the Great is still present a little while longer AFTER the “two witnesses” are “killed” as Christendom is the Revelation 11:8 “broad way” into that “great city” which also contains the “two witnesses” unburied “corpses”. This means there are eventually final- sheep saved from the Babylon the Great “great city” overall global-system as per Revelation 14:6-7 open salvation offer which leads to, and thus through, the BTG destruction whose finale is announced in Revelation 14:8 as Revelation 14:6-7 events lead here during the BTG destruction phase as noted in this final sequence:

(Revelation 14:6-8) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.” 

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

Thus, the “great crowd” is completely “gathered” in completion as far as that BTG liberation aspect for a “tenth of the city” saved in symbolic meaning adds the final humans to the “great crowd”, some final “sheep” swept out by use of the BTG downfall. But Revelation 7:9-17 is a post Christ total global-conquest finale sequence, so that is when in the timeline the “great crowd” are described in final form, even if being secured previously during the 1290 days Revelation 7:9-17 is the post Christ conquest aftermath.

The “Great Crowd” as the First Temple Gift of Christ to God

(Hebrews 9:9) This very [tent] is an illustration for the appointed time that is now here, and in keeping with it both gifts and sacrifices are offered. 

Thus, the “great crowd” in its Matthew 24:31-40 “sheep” symbol and Revelation 14:14-16 “harvest of the earth” parallels of also a final completed Christ arrival “gathering” are the first “harvest of the earth”  “gift” offered by High Priest Christ to God in the completed “temple” state:

(Revelation 14:15-17) And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped. 17 And still another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary] that is in heaven, he, too, having a sharp sickle.

And to make this “heavenly temple” have earthly effect it has to be “coming down [to earth] from heaven” in symbol of its divine power of salvation now directly affecting earth:

(Revelation 21:1-2) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Though the “temple” is a heavenly symbol of a spiritual reality the completion of the 144000 is what enables it as a complete “temple” only requiring the “head stone” Christ for total completion and it has earthly missions to help fulfill the Christ prayerful request of God:

(Matthew 6:9-10) “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come [to earth]. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.

By that time the “coming down from heaven” has made its first step into planet Earth, and this “holy city’s” temple” is then beginning to become accessible to humans on Earth, thus the “throne” and “temple” are parts of the “holy city” “coming down” to earth making this all accessible to humans on Earth:

(Revelation 7:9-10) After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

And that is how human beings can be “before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his [then completed] temple” because these are all elements within the “holy city”:

(Revelation 7:13-17) And in response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”

And if that “tent” and “God will wipe out every tear from their eyes” sounds familiar in Revelation it is the promise of God also shown here below on earth so we can again know where this “tent” is to become spread, that is over planet Earth, but not as the “temple” of course but as “God’s will done on Earth” “tent” global-condition and God’s guidance of the whole human family:

(Revelation 21:3-4) With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

And thus, since the “tent of God is with mankind” therefore the “great crowd” is the first of mankind to start to be recovered on Earth in this fulfillment then becoming reality, and that is with earthly focus God “will reside with them, and they will be his peoples” on Earth. Thus it starts to fulfill the Matthew 6:10 “let your Kingdom come” to planet Earth to oversee “God’s will done on Earth as in Heaven” in comprehensive manner which takes 1000 years to complete to human perfection and sinlessness.

(2 Thessalonians 1:10) and to be regarded in that day with wonder in connection with all those who exercised faith, because the witness we gave met with faith among you.

We can see here below, the “great crowd” is not sinless and perfected yet hence not in heaven but still on Earth. The “great crowd” will still be requiring more now direct Christ guidance to the “waters of life” which signify the teaching of the practice of sinlessness and the divine perfection of human being and body (Heb10:10) to make it possible which then proceeds under the 1000 year reign of Christ:

(Revelation 7:17) because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. 

This direct accessibility to human beings is because the “holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God” is present in initial form for the “gift offering” of the “harvest of the earth” to be given by High Priest Christ in God’s “temple” to proceed into the 1000 year reign of Christ:

(Revelation 21:1-2) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

And since the “Bride” is also now complete and is also in that “Lamb’s wife” symbol:

(Revelation 21:9-10) And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls which were full of the seven last plagues, and he spoke with me and said: “Come here, I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.” 10 So he carried me away in [the power of the] spirit to a great and lofty mountain, and he showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God…

The “Marriage of the Lamb” can take place in the official form and the “great crowd” and who knows who else may be present…:

(Revelation 11:18) to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great

…and can be the “invited to the Lamb’s Marriage” for the “Groom and Bride” are not the “invitees” they are the main event! And though anointed are invited in they become the “bride” so there is more than just the “bride and groom” at the marriage ceremony as humans can experience and witness the earthly manifestation of the event. What wedding ceremony consists of only the bride and groom?

(Revelation 19:7-8) Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself. 8 Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones.”

So, humans are the ones who are affected by this commission of the final appeal warning parallel:

(Matthew 25:6-7) Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on your way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 

Thus the “five discreet virgins” and the “two witnesses” have a global audience to be affected by the final appeal of the open salvation offer, they do not “light up the way” and “witness to Christ arrival” to themselves and those that do respond are part of this final appeal process’s global audience to bring in the finality of all the parties of those to complete the “bride” and those to complete the invited ones to witness the marriage and ceremonies in this same principle of the final Open Salvation Offer parallel:

(Matthew 22:7-13) “But the king grew wrathful, and sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. 8 Then he said to his slaves, ‘The marriage feast indeed is ready, but those invited were not worthy. 9 Therefore go to the roads leading out of the city, and anyone you find invite to the marriage feast.’ 10 Accordingly those slaves went out to the roads and gathered together all they found, both wicked and good; and the room for the wedding ceremonies was filled with those reclining at the table. 11 “When the king came in to inspect the guests he caught sight there of a man not clothed with a marriage garment. 12 So he said to him, ‘Fellow, how did you get in here not having on a marriage garment?’ He was rendered speechless. 13 Then the king said to his servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and throw him out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.’

Final Note: “Tent” to “Temple” Completion First, for “Coming Down from Heaven” Last

Now as the “temple” word in Revelation NWT translation signifies, as it does in the Greek text, the Revelation prophecy use of that “temple” word in the Revelation terminal sequences only AFTER the TEMPLE HAS BEEN COMPLETED (by finally God) in these final contexts (Rev11:19). As an example in this pre-seven plagues description the “tent” word is used as the “temple” is yet to complete:

(Revelation 15:5-6) And after these things I saw, and the sanctuary of the tent of the witness was opened in heaven, 6 and the seven angels with the seven plagues emerged from the sanctuary, clothed with clean, bright linen and girded about their breasts with golden girdles. 

Whereas by the time of these sequences Christ has arrived and the “temple” has been completed in all 144000:

(Revelation 11:19) And the temple [sanctuary] of God that is in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen in his temple [sanctuary]. And there occurred lightnings and voices and thunders and an earthquake and a great hail.

(Revelation 14:15-17) And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped. 17 And still another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary] that is in heaven, he, too, having a sharp sickle.

(Revelation 7:15) That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. (the tent here is not the temple)

In this pre-temple completion reference it is of the “measuring of the temple” signifying its guaranteed divine completion in this final Revelation 11 future sequence. The rest is really focused on the “courtyard” signified as earthly as it will be trampled in this final pre-Christ arrival sequence of Revelation 11:1-19 which “trampling” of Revelation 11:2 leads to the “temple” completion:

(Revelation 11:1-2) And a reed like a rod was given me as he said: “Get up and measure the temple [sanctuary] of God and the altar and those worshiping in it. 2 But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 

Although God Almighty completes the temple, of course, Christ works on the temple completion, when he “gathers” the rest of the “the living” final anointed “who are surviving” (1Thes4:17); but GOD is who places Christ as the “head stone” also the King-Priest significance:

(Zechariah 4:6-9) Accordingly he answered and said to me: “This is the word of Jehovah to Zerubbabel, saying, ‘“Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” Jehovah of armies has said. 7 Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel [you will become] a level land. And he will certainly bring forth the headstone. There will be shoutings to it: “How charming! How charming!”’” 8 And the word of Jehovah continued to occur to me, saying: 9 “The very hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house, and his own hands will finish [it]. 

In the reality of the heavenly “Temple” God is who “finishes it” because he sets Christ as also the final “stone” in the “temple” as Christ is also its “foundation stone” and Zechariah 4 is the Revelation 11:5 parallel so the “shoutings” of the coming “temple” completion is a final appeal parallel of the “two witnesses” “second witnessing” of the future.

And that commission is to be given here after the temple cleansing of Zechariah 3:1-5:

(Zechariah 3:8-9) “‘Hear, please, O Joshua the high priest, you and your companions who are sitting before you, for they are men [serving] as portents; for here I am bringing in my servant Sprout! 9 For, look! the stone that I have put before Joshua! Upon the one stone there are seven eyes. Here I am engraving its engraving,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies, ‘and I will take away the error of that land in one day.’

It means the 144000 completion, whether literal or symbolic, is a required whole also “gathered” to total completion (1Thess4:17; Rev16:17-20). This is why prior to temple completion as cited above in Revelation 15, and also found in Hebrews, the word “tent” is used as in the temporary incomplete state of anointed “gathering” and thus the “temple” is signified as a “tent”, still incomplete, even when there was only one anointed One, even if it is the Christ:

(Hebrews 8:1-2) Now as to the things being discussed this is the main point: We have such a high priest as this, and he has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a public servant of the holy place and of the true tent, which Jehovah put up, and not man.

(Hebrews 9:9) This very [tent] is an illustration for the appointed time that is now here, and in keeping with it both gifts and sacrifices are offered. 

A Final Meditation for Many

In addition, this 1290 days allowance and the stealth sheep securing super-natural events, though covert, will be noticed by other people still in question of their own faith about Christ and this extended time frame gives them some time to think about the things they have seen. As with the case of the week prior to the flood, people had to witness a massive influx of animal life into the ark because 8 people were not going to gather such an enormous cargo, and though people saw that sign, none responded.

But this final sign of Christ loading his own salvation human cargo can have a great effect on others and some of them will make the decision to get “on board” with Revelation 14:6-8’s offer and the “two witnesses” appeal will have made this offer known to many people as well. The extended time frame of this open salvation period thus also allows people some time to meditate on what they will KNOW has been going on at global scale and hopefully choose salvation before it is truly too late, and angels ensure the open salvation offer will stand the whole 1290 days:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

That divine offer is pretty direct and its acceptance will be aided by interesting sheep sweep events and the time to reflect upon what it really means for many people.

 

 

 

TWO Witnesses for TWO Kingdoms: Why 1914-1918 is a Valid Prophecy Period

TWO Witnesses for TWO Kingdoms: Why 1914-1918 is a Valid Prophecy Period

There is a lot of doubt being created to discredit 1914 and thus Jehovah’s witnesses “first witnessing” message of 1914-1918 and its first 1260 days from the time they used to be called the Bible Students (their first “witness” title as a lose parallel). This is not so much about the TWO witnessings to eventually complete, this is why 1914-1918 was a valid Kingdom of God proclamation and why there are TWO witnessings REQUIRED in the first place.

The fact is, the “Kingdom of God” is NOT the only “Kingdom” we are tracking in prophecy, there is also the “Kingdom of the Son of his love”, same as the “Kingdom of David”, aka the “Messianic Kingdom of CHRIST” PLAINLY identified as separate “Kingdom” entities in prophecy, though unified in purpose and separate covenant defined. (2Sam7:11-16; Luke22:28-30)

1914-1918 is good, and here is why: It was just the…

1. “Kingdom of God” aspect…

2. … of the Christ Messianic Kingdom overall development; (at this time still in progress until Revelation 14:1 is fulfilled.)

As you many understand in Daniel 2:31-45 there is the “mountain” which represents God’s Kingdom, an eternal thing complete from even the distant past, and there is the “stone” “cut from the mountain” which is the Kingdom of Christ aka the “Messianic Kingdom” merely BORN in 1914. (See also Luke 22:28-20; Zechariah 6:1-8)

There are TWO “Kingdoms” we NEED to track in time. 1914 and the future. The Messianic Kingdom is NOT a complete entity at this time, nor has it had a proper and official global proclamation. Yet….

There are ” TWO witnesses” witnessings because there are TWO Kingdoms in prophecy. (Rev11:3); See [1] below.

TWO KINGDOM PROCLAMATIONS REQUIRED!

1. 1914-1918 was the 1260 days associated with the God’s Kingdom proclamation aspect, of course ALREADY complete wherein Jesus Christ was crowned TEMPORARY KING of God’s Kingdom in 1914. The first witnessing of the TWO witnesses made the announcement of the coronation of Christ in God’s Kingdom, very important, because it birthed, just “cut out” the “stone” of the Messianic Kingdom.

See what that means? At this time, the Messianic Kingdom is still maturing and it too must be complete in time with all 144000 completion, regardless if that is literal or symbolic number it signifies Rev 7:1-8 and Rev14:1-5 is a COMPLETION REQUIREMENT OF THE FUTURE.

2. Well guess what that second witnessing of the TWO witnesses for 1260 days in the future is?

Yep, you probably guessed it.

It is Christ’s Messianic Kingdom “King of kings” Completion to Coronation EVENT which also requires a preceding proclamation TOO, a full open salvation offer and final warning to precede that event. (Rev10:11) “You must prophesy AGAIN!”, the 1260 days grand finale proclamation!

THAT is why 1914-1918 is valid 1260 days, initial warning. It is a “first witnessing” of the TWO witnesses to warm us all up BEFORE the final 1260 days of the future to come after Daniel 8:13-14 transpires on Jehovah’s witnesses and they are temple judgment cleansed and recovered for the Messianic Kingdom Completion and Christ Coronation Finale announcement.

That is why there are TWO “witnesses”, 1260 days each, 3.5 times each, 2520 DAYS complete, SEVEN TIMES complete warning (Rev11:3), and “trampling” (Rev11:2), then Christ arrives into a complete world government to complete the above.

Btw, the final 1260 day warning is how the last anointed get sealed-in-affirmation by Rev10:11 “second witnessing” mission completion (Rev10:5-8) to get to Revelation 7:1-8 reality of the “four winds” GT finale which occurs not with the “sword stroke” (Rev13:3), but after, in full 8th King World Government “one hour” global “world peace” reign. (Isa41 parallel, btw)

That is why Daniel 8:25 says “by peace he will destroy many” (Dan11:44 parallel) and “during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin”, because world government is doing BOTH things at the same time! And part of the many brought to ruin is that final warning (Rev11:7; Rev13:5-7; Dan12:11 remove final constant feature) and then BTG last. (Dan12:11=Rev11:7-10; Rev17:8-18; Rev14:6-8)

While they are saying world government “world peace” and security (1Thess5:1-3), they are also running their final controlled-destructions agenda. It will be so bad God and Christ MUST “cut short the days or no flesh would be saved” as per Matthew 24:21-22.

The possible world war coming up is just a Matthew 24:6 “sword stroke” event and as Jesus said “when you hear of wars and reports of wars don’t freak out, the end is not yet, it does not occur immediately” (Luke21:9 “wars and disorders”) in such a period, paraphrased. It occurs in the world government world peace phase, while they are also “bringing many to ruin”, AFTER the “sword stroke” as per Revelation 13:3, with the “healing” phase parallel.

Before that occurs the “second witnessing” 1260 days will have made the proclamation of the Christ Messianic Kingdom “stone” Christ Coronation certain event to complete in that final period known, and all these kinds of proofs.

THEN the “stone” will hit the Daniel 2 “immense image” whose total symbolic image totality is World Government in the whole “immense image” “standing” at, basically, “the place that is called in Hebrew, Har-Magedon”. The end of the rival will have arrived. All prophecy converges and culminates into world government completion just BEFORE Christ arrives as a sign all can see and act wisely in regard to to avoid the 666 marking of world government allegiance as international law. (Rev13:15-18; Rev14:9-11)

Graphic Examples of Final Cycle and Full Sovereign Prophecy Forecast

Sometimes seeing it laid out helps, so these various graphics illustrate some prophecy timeline features of the final cycle:

https://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/final-world-government-cycle-graphics/

This one is the most complete because it goes back to Nimrod as a comprehensive view of the whole “seven times” complex of prophecy which is more extensive than JWs teach and uses the 607 BCE Babylon Daniel 4 benchmark rather than that 607 Jerusalem destruction error:

http://s72.photobucket.com/user/templelijah/media/Z05-Seven-Times-Seven-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Update-06-Version1_6_24x36-222dpi_zpsymrz6hkg.png.html?sort=3&o=5

But when the summary goes global, in time, these final harmonizations are very complete and defensible across all sovereign, temple, kingdom and “seven times” prophecy which actually completes in Revelation final future events.

But you can look through the Photobucket Library and find the [imagename.jpg~original] (note the ~original Photobucket string denoting full size version) to get the fullest size version as these are designed as poster size in that largest resolution version, fully readable, as the reduced sizes do lose some readability.

The full wrap up is here but it is really meant for the most advanced JW prophecy studier, but it has areas anyone can get the gist of:

“Seven Times” Updates Coming—”Appointed Times of the Nations” Reconsidered, Again

https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/12/29/seven-times-updates-coming-appointed-times-of-the-nations-reconsidered-again/

I imagine the final warning summary will have the simplest versions as well. And we have time, so this will all get out in time. JWs have to aid it as Rev10:11, but the message must be ANYONE on Earth can observe Rev14:6-7 now, and at that time and be saved. ANYONE.

This is complex but also simple in that world government completion triggers Christ arrival as the simplest message. BUT it is not too simple, nor too complex, it will be Rev10:5-8 COMPLETE and comprehended by “all sorts of men” from the simplest to the most advanced Bible student and or common human, because even some from the rival system could be spared, such as Jonah has proven in principle in his commission.

Thanks

Just stick at it, when Daniel 8:13-14 proves itself in time, it will keep getting “morning” clearer and clearer as we arrive to the full “day’s” “noon”. (Dan8:26; Hos6:1-3; Isa31:8-9; Isa37:30-32)

Mapping the Christ Arrival; after World Government Completion

Mapping the Christ Arrival by Prophecy Cross Reference

Precedes Christ Arrival Immediate

Using the Christ arrival benchmark and working first backwards, what are a couple things we can use the Bible’s own text to determine immediately precede the Christ arrival? What can we find in the Bible that happens just before Christ arrives?

Let us examine two prophecies which have globally seen features that expire into the Christ arrival, thus being active before he arrives in the “tribulation of those days” and in the cessation of the final warning “two witnesses” final ministry which have to be in parallel leading to the Christ arrival

1. Tribulation of Those Days Ends

(Matthew 24:29-31) “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

Obviously, this is a great clue with no “end of the world” described as well. This is a portion of the “great tribulation” that Christ cannot “cut short” because he does not even arrive in the sequence until “immediately after” the “tribulation of those days” ends as explicitly described in the text.

A. And we note there is no “the end” in this sequence, the prophecy ends with the sheep gathering sequence occurring first.

B. This “tribulation” phase must be resolving by other means, such as the “sword stroke” of a world war resolving and “healing” on its own by 8th King design.

Now we just examined the event immediate to the Christ arrival, something resolves the “tribulation of those days” other than a divine “the end” “cut short the days” intervention. Keeping this in mind let’s examine the cessation of the final warning “two witnesses” ministry for its final symbolic period to expire into the Christ arrival in this parallel. This is the last prophetic timed symbolic period that expires right into the Christ arrival:

2. Three and a Half Days Death State of Two Witnesses Killed Expires

(Revelation 11:7-13) And when they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will make war with them and conquer them and kill them. 8 And their corpses will be on the broad way of the great city which is in a spiritual sense called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was also impaled. 9 And those of the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their corpses for three and a half days, and they do not let their corpses be laid in a tomb. 10 And those dwelling on the earth rejoice over them and enjoy themselves, and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those dwelling on the earth. 11 And after the three and a half days spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon those beholding them. 12 And they heard a loud voice out of heaven say to them: “Come on up here.” And they went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies beheld them. 13 And in that hour a great earthquake occurred, and a tenth of the city fell; and seven thousand persons were killed by the earthquake, and the rest became frightened and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Well, putting aside all the distractions in this text to concentrate on the big symbols first we have the “wildbeast” “ascending” from the Revelation 17:8-12 sequence “abyss” which ascent is into world government gone global. We have an “abyss” state and global phase ending which can be a parallel of the ending of the “tribulation of those days” as a “sword stroke” defined “abyss” context for world government to arise from as the ultimate “8th King” “scarlet wild beast” symbol in completion emerging with the “sword stroke” “got healed” global recovery phase.

Knowing this “tribulation of those days” is then a context of the “sword stroke” final world war we know the “abyss” is also the context from which the “wildbeast” ascends. We know world government “wildbeast” is “ascending” into that final global “healing” phase of the “sword stroke” phase ending. That “sword stroke” of Revelation 13:3, in its peak global “tribulation of those days” is ending with that world war resolving as the “tribulation of those days” is also expiring. These are the obvious parallels to manifest in world government also to be seen globally before Christ arrives.

Working Backwards from Christ Arrival

1260 Days Ends

Now we can work backwards through the reversing of the first six trumpets and that final 1260 days that defined the final period of the final warning in the 6th trumpet period as Revelation 9 merged into Revelation 10-11:1-10 all before Christ arrives in Revelation 11:11-12 parallel.

Now we know this 1260 days parallel to Revelation 11:1-7 also ends with a conquering of the “holy ones” who would define the “two witnesses” “killed” cessation of the final warning:

(Revelation 13:5-8) And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given it, and authority to act forty-two months was given it. 6 And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his residence, even those residing in heaven. 7 And there was granted it to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. 8 And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it; the name of not one of them stands written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered, from the founding of the world.

World Government Rises

Now we have the great clue in the ultimate purpose of this whole “sword stroke” world war cycle was to “heal” the global situation to promote the global worship “admiration” of world government “wild beast”.

(Revelation 13:3) And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.

Now that we know what precedes the Christ arrival to the beginning of the final “sword stroke” to define the parallel “tribulation of those days” and the “abyss” to resolve into an “abyss” “ascended” final world government “wild beast” entity we can examine this sequence of the rise of world government in this parallel:

(Revelation 17:8-14) The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world. 9 “Here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. 10 And there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while. 11 And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also itself an eighth [king], but springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction. 12 “And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast. 13 These have one thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. 14 These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].”

Babylon the Great Deposed

Thus, we know Revelation 17:14 is a hint of the parallel of the Christ arrival of Matthew 24:29 as it is a statement of certainty in that “will battle with the lamb” is not one describing an action undertaken at that time, but one that “will” occur most certainly. But by that placement of a Christ arrival parallel we now know one more feature that occurs after Christ arrives, Babylon the Great is then deposed by complete world government of the Revelation 17:8-13 sequence, after which, this occurs:

(Revelation 17:15-18) And he says to me: “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues. 16 And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”


7th Plague Christ “Air” Arrival Precedes Babylon Deposed

And this “air” event of the 7th Plague is also a Christ arrival event of 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and Babylon the Great is then deposed after the air arrival of Christ as implied in Revelation 17:14-18:

(Revelation 16:16-20) And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon. 17 And the seventh one poured out his bowl upon the air. At this a loud voice issued out of the sanctuary from the throne, saying: “It has come to pass!” 18 And lightnings and voices and thunders occurred, and a great earthquake occurred such as had not occurred since men came to be on the earth, so extensive an earthquake, so great. 19 And the great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell; and Babylon the Great was remembered in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath. 20 Also, every island fled, and mountains were not found.

“Four Winds” Under World Government Proof

We know the Revelation 7 144000 completion is also the Revelation 14 144000 completion and the that the “four winds” period must occur after that 144000 is complete. So, the “four winds” cannot be the “tribulation of those days” which ended before the final sheep are gathered in Matthew 24:31 (Rev7:9-17 “great crowd” deliverance parallel; also Rev14:14-16; Matt25:31-40) of which the finality of the 144000 must be the first sheep group completed to define Revelation 14:1-5.

Two Areas of Common Confusion

1. Thus, what throws people off is when they try to equate the “four winds” with the “tribulation of those days”. 

In reality the “four winds” is after the “tribulation of those days” has ended into world government completion parallel. The “four winds” has to take place under complete world government.

The other area that causes confusion are these parallel destruction modes that precede the total end, where these “kings” are synonymous with complete 8th King world government:

(Daniel 8:25) And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken.

(Daniel 11:44-45) “But there will be reports that will disturb him, out of the sunrising and out of the north, and he will certainly go forth in a great rage in order to annihilate and to devote many to destruction. 45 And he will plant his palatial tents between [the] grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will have to come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.

2. Some people assume these are also part of the initial “tribulation of those days”, but they must define the following “four winds” phase under world government, the final phase of the overall “great tribulation”. 

In reality, those are destructions all orchestrated by complete world government and define the “four winds” defining attempted global selective destruction agenda while they are also claiming “world peace”. Both the “four winds” and those destructive modes are under world government complete, some time in its final Revelation 17:12 “one hour” of global authority.

World Government World Peace Signal

The “four winds” has to unfold after the “tribulation of those days” that helped present world government and its “world peace” of 1Thessalonians 5:1-3. Thus, the “during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin” is in the “four winds” during that final “world peace” and security and the “freedom from care” parallel as they have a destructive agenda which must take place during the time of the “world peace” cover story and global mantra of 8th King world government.

(1 Thessalonians 5:1-3) Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape. 

The question here is who are the “they”. Well, if world government officials are globally speaking “world peace” so will those fooled by this also be believing this final world government signal mantra. Thus, the “they” is a globally seen and heard and present “world peace” of world government finality many will speak from top to bottom. This  ultimate “world peace” credibility is obviously added to when Babylon the Great is also fully deposed to add to that proclamation or to signal its emergence in full form.

But from the “four winds” context we know “they” can be undergoing an “sudden destruction” from the world government “bring many to ruin” agenda which is then “cut short” by God and Christ to eventually come on all of the “they” in that world peace proclaiming global population including its world government:

(Matthew 24:21-22) there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.

And now we see that “four winds” of engineered world government “depopulation” will get so severe Christ must arrive at that time to cut them short and “repay tribulation” on them:

(2 Thessalonians 1:6-10) This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you, 7 but, to you who suffer tribulation, relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength, 10 at the time he comes to be glorified in connection with his holy ones and to be regarded in that day with wonder in connection with all those who exercised faith, because the witness we gave met with faith among you.

We see the 8th King world government are the lead engineers in that “make tribulation for you” and everyone in the world to present their world government. But by this time this is the “four winds” under world government being cut short as one whole “end of the system of things”.

Trumpet 1 Temple Judgment First Affirmation

Now, if we continue to step backward through the trumpets the final warning producing recovery is the 5th and 6th trumpets which exposed the 2nd, 3rd and 4th trumpets of apostasy details now present in the JW GB led downward spiral since 1976 to the 1990 3rd UN event cover up and UN NGO definite Daniel 11:31b marker. (Dan11:32a)

Thus, the first trumpet is the Temple judgment symbol which has to occur first and next. The Temple Judgment is Revelation 8:8 which is the symbol of the Revelation 8:3-5 temple judgment modern future events of Daniel 8:13-14 and Zechariah 3:1-5, Malachi 3:1-5 as 1Peter 4:17. Daniel 8:13-14 is also timed for first trumpet event and period affirmation and that will start the whole progression of all seven trumpets wherein the apostasy of Jehovah’s witnesses is exposed first as the final warning ministry is recovered.

Daniel 8:13-14 Timed Temple Judgment Proof of the Future

Daniel 8:13-14 events of JW organization global “trampling” desolations in the Daniel 11:41-43 global context is a 2300 “evenings and mornings” timed prophecy where the total can be 2300 days, 6.38 years, as an “evening and morning” per day. Or the timing may be 1150 days, 3.19 years, as an “evening and morning” each counts per day, 2 per day. So it will be 3.19 years minimum temple judgment, and 3.19 years may be the desolation “evening” phase which may be followed by 3.19 years of the recovery “morning”.

Since the prophecy is rather cryptic we need to pay attention to the timing to transpire after the first notable anti JW Org or anti JW ministry event because the 3.19 year period is to be an affirmable first signal of the active prophecy. In any event the timing will become affirmable because it is the temple judgment verification to aid the inception of the final warning preparing to lead to the final 1260 days and that while the “tribulation of those days” is also activating globally and recognizable.

And that “tribulation of those days” brings us to where this article began as the final warning must be taking part to the point of its cessation into Matt24:29-31 Christ arrival as the event it has all been warning of to be triggered by 8th King world government completion.

Christ’s Riddle: How “World Peace” Signals the Real End, Not “World War”

Christ’s Super Riddle How “World Peace” Signals the Real End, Not “World War”

We know a period such as this is going to be a global crisis like no other time in human history:

(Matthew 24:21-22) for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.

Would that be a period of peak global disorders, violence and “wars and reports of wars”?

Of course global “tribulation” is defined by a stressful global context, which must include climax forms of what defines human lack of system peace and harmony, in peak form. Although that seems to be the default setting for the world, in general, that coming period of Matthew 24:21-22 will be especially unique.

But, the paradox is, the super riddle is, how then is a time of peak wars and reports of wars and “disorders”, NOT the signal of Christ arrival?—in fact global crisis, even in record form, defines the period in which Christ will NOT arrive:

(Matthew 24:6) you are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.

(Luke 21:9) Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disorders, do not be terrified. For these things must occur first, but the end does not [occur] immediately.”

Thus we have quite the perplexing puzzle of seeming contradictions to unravel here. How is total global tribulation NOT the climax signal of the Christ arrival?

If we inverted Christ’s logic, we could get this diametric meaning, could we not?:

(Inverted Matthew 24:6) …you are going to hear of no wars and no reports of wars; see that you are not deceived. For these things must also take place, and the end is at that time.

(Inverted Luke 21:9) Furthermore, when you hear of no wars and no disorders, do not be deceived. For these things must also occur, and the end does [occur] at this time.”

Sound familiar? Is this not saying the same thing as those logical inversions?:

(1 Thessalonians 5:1-5) Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape. 4 But you, brothers, you are not in darkness, so that that day should overtake you as it would thieves, 5 for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We belong neither to night nor to darkness.

Then when is that true signal of Christ conquest in “world peace”?; next week?, next year?, or under total world government a number of years from now?

In reality, of course, the Bible provides the very simple answer to this riddle. The real Christ arrival global signal, is at a time of a uniquely significant world “peace and security” statement period. That finale of “world peace” is what actually signals the Christ arrival, not the period of tribulation which precedes it.

And we can register this logic, with what we know about the purpose of the coming preparatory global crisis cycle. That is coming, but it will NOT mean, what many will think it means in some kind of global doomsday, in which Christ must be revealed. Nope.

The Bible reveals the deception every step of the way, from tribulation, to recovery, to world government, to Christ arrival.

The other logical formula that we can use to determine this future cyclic reality, and what helps define the tribulation first, is in Revelation 13’s “sword stroke” cycle. Yes, the global “sword stroke” formula of the future, is right HERE:

(Revelation 13:3) And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.

The logic is, that terrifying “sword stroke”, with that global “as though” impression of sure “doomsday”, in fact “miraculously” recovers. That is the clue, this is NOT doomsday, even if in full blown nuclear war, “hot war” “atomic sword stroke” between the US/NATO alliance and the Russia/China bloc.

Do NOT be fooled. IT WILL RESOLVE AS PER PROPHECY, and for the very reason prophecy indicates: to sell world government, and its obligatory “world peace” signal global sovereign statement.

That being the case, that global scale recovery inspires great global “admiration” for the wildbeast world government system. THAT is what all this worldly and JW “doom” HYPE is all about: DECEPTION, to lead people to the counterfeit.

And logically, it is a period of GLOBAL “sword stroke” “healing” that also produces that world “peace and security” true signal of the Christ arrival, and at a time of peak global wildbeast admiration and hence worship, AND at a time of NO “wars and reports of wars”, for world government will be the global military controlling system, not sovereign nations any longer.

The Bethel Hoax

Now we can easily review the current Bethel “prophecy agenda” for JWs, because it is simple, because they want all JWs to think it is “the end”, contrary to Christ’s clue that that tribulation period, is NOT the time he arrives.

JWs simply ignore all this telling Christ and prophecy clues.

And the one descriptive prophecy which Bethel primes the JW skull with, which must come in the future, BOTH by Bethel’s forecast, and the general progression of Daniel 11, is Daniel 11:44.

JWs are expecting “Daniel 11:44 next” as that over advanced position has been maintained, even with the USSR failure (Dan11:36a) of being the real King North of Daniel 11:27-45.

When the SHTF in the future, THIS is what JWs will think, in error, has activated:

(Daniel 11:44) “But there will be reports that will disturb him, out of the sunrising and out of the north, and he will certainly go forth in a great rage in order to annihilate and to devote many to destruction.

Obviously the “sword stroke” coming, can easily fit the Daniel 11:44 description, in the future. But for reasons which will be shown, it will NOT be Daniel 11:44 yet, it will be Daniel 11:41-43.

And thus in JW engineered logic, as they think in error Daniel 11:44 has activated, JWs will also think Daniel 11:44 MUST quickly leads to Daniel 11:45, in Bethel’s false forecast:

(Daniel 11:45) And he will plant his palatial tents between [the] grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will have to come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.

So when that final “sword stroke” starts to manifest, JWs will think it is really Daniel 11:44-45 and thus “the end of the world brothers! And that, in spite of the fact, it is the very global context Christ gave us the clue, is NOT the final signal of the end.

But, recall, Daniel 11:40-43 is no picnic for “The Decoration” or the nation-state system “King South” is it?

(Daniel 11:40-43) “And in the time of [the] end the king of the south will engage with him in a pushing, and against him the king of the north will storm with chariots and with horsemen and with many ships; and he will certainly enter into the lands and flood over and pass through. 41 He will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration, and there will be many [lands] that will be made to stumble. But these are the ones that will escape out of his hand, Edom and Moab and the main part of the sons of Ammon. (<apostasy aids) 42 And he will keep thrusting out his hand against the lands; and as regards the land of Egypt (<global nation-state), she (<made subservient) will not prove to be an escapee. 43 And he (world government king north) will actually rule over the (global) hidden treasures of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of (nation-state) Egypt. And the Libyans and the Ethiopians will be at his steps.

And no way, did the USSR who was felled by the 8th King globalists, fulfill that scripture, as Bethel tells JWs, to keep them well over-advanced in Daniel 11:44 expectation, way too deep into the prophecy.

And DELUSION now affecting JWs like the mental plague it is, is going to come in very handy, for Bethel to cloak their downfall within. (Daniel 8:13-14; Dan11:41)

See, when the real King North globalists come in to finish off Bethel, which they already entered in infiltration, it is going to be HUGE in JW perception. But rather than be explained as Daniel 8:13-14 (temple judgment) in the Daniel 11:41 global context, INSTEAD, Bethel will tell JWs it must be Daniel 11:44—look no further.

And in that manner, they can sack Bethel, as if the “end of the world”, JWs will be thinking just that, and JWs will be diverted, distracted and misled, so as to not understand it is a corporate super-coup, instead, allowed by God because of many Bethel sins, and UN partnership.

Think about this, THAT REALITY, will then be the FURTHEST THING from JW minds! JWs will be totally deceived, misled, and duped, and within a true global hoax, designed to also take them down, for good. (But, it will fail, as bad as it must get.

Now back top that Daniel 11:44-45 deep future reality.

(Daniel 11:44) “But there will be reports that will disturb him, out of the sunrising and out of the north, and he will certainly go forth in a great rage in order to annihilate and to devote many to destruction. And he will plant his palatial tents between [the] grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will have to come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.

So how does this new seeming contradiction get explained? This is how.

Because when world government enters its completion (Rev17:8-18), it will be more dangerous than the global crisis period that led up to it. “World peace” is defined by the total global monopoly of the global financial and military system, by one final world power, the 8th King, King North. (Dan11:42-43; Rev16:13-16)

Even though, under world government, they WILL claim “world peace and security”, as Christ and Paul indicated they will, in a global period of “no wars and reports of wars”, they will then actually carry out their final global “four winds” depopulation agenda, as well. It was just a sucker’s bait deception, and “grandiose words” cover story.

Freedom From Care = World Peace and Security

And that is how this Daniel 8:25 parallel to Daniel 11:44, AND its “freedom from care” context, is that very “world peace and security” parallel of that finale SIGNAL period. (1Thess5:1-3)

BUT, under the “world peace” “freedom from care” deceptive veneer and “healing” (Isa41:1), it is instead a time of the full 8th King agenda being carried out, under full world government, not before, but after world government enters their signal “world peace” period:

(Daniel 8:25) And according to his insight he will also certainly cause deception to succeed in his hand. And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken.

And that is why THAT is the period that triggers Christ arrival, is still uniquely tumultuous:

(Matthew 24:21-22) for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.

But as shown, under the globally successful deception context. And now we can understand why THAT period, under the global 8th King true “population override” depopulation directive, in action, is so bad, if Christ did not arrive then, no flesh would survive. That is what the “four winds” is as well, it all climaxes after the “tribulation of those days” resolves into that signal “world peace and security”.

By that time, we will know the “sword stroke” has healed, it was not “doomsday”, it as AS THOUGH “slaughtered to death”, but it was a formulaic ruse cycle, devised to “heal”, to inspire great global admiration for wildbeast world government. And once they get that monopoly finalized, THEN watch out, because then their “world peace” is actually defined by their 100% global monopoly of the entire global weapons and energy technology network, and no nation can stop them, but they are all “gathered” into that situation.

And that is why they are more dangerous, AFTER they achieve total globalized weapons system control, not the stressing global crisis cycle that leads to that outcome.

 

The End So Soon? Not So Fast There JWs…

The End So Soon? Nope…

Examining Apostate Bethel’s “The End is Here!” Hype and its Deceptive Purpose

Why would Jehovah’s witnesses be thinking its the end already??? Maybe because of this here development below?

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-2) However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.

And JUST AS WRITTEN!!!

I REPEAT, EXACTLY AS FORETOLD, Jehovah’s witnesses are NOW being “shaken from all reason”, and “over excited” by THIS EXACT Bethel fraudulent and premature end claim, that what comes next is “simply, the end of the world brothers!!!! LOOK NO FURTHER!!!”.

Along with this premature and false impression, is the myth the “great tribulation” simply devolves into “the end”, leading to the arrival of Christ. (Did Christ say that though? See Matthew 24:6)

This is the SIGNAL DELUSION, that Bethel NOW pushes like a pimp pushing fresh meat on the street, into JW mental boulevard, to also push on their global audience door to door, and in many Bible studies.

These are foretold LIES, being promoted by Bethel, for some future anti-Christian use. NOTHING MORE, nothing less.

Only problem is, the end aint coming as quickly as Bethel says. INSTEAD the greatest global CYCLE of all human history must unfold, and MORE witnessing to God’s Kingdom and all these things, must climax. (Rev10:5-7), INSTEAD, much more prophecy must yet fulfill, and this supposed “end” Jehovah’s witnesses are expecting, will NOT come quite as soon as they expect.

Now this meltdown cycle (Dan11:41-43), that the world’s own forecasters are clearing explaining is greatly financial and to be covered up by war with Russia, now brewing, is what we know is coming. We also know it is to have a world government producing and supporting purpose, it is NOT the end, the more people think it is “the end”, the more distracted, misled and predictable they become, plain and simple.

The “lights” of this world itself, its researchers its economists and alternative news people, are who show the “signs” of what is coming, as a PORTENT SIGN BEFORE these things come:

(Luke 21:25-26) “Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth…

That TOO is now fulfilling in its signal global form, like NEVER BEFORE in all world history as people who are paying attention understand hundreds of trillions in global debt and unfunded liabilities of the state, massive globally spread unrest and terror, criminal false flag producing government cabals, and constant NATO and its wars expansion, is NOT going to just resolve easily and cure itself.

Something ENORMOUS is brewing in the world. (But it is NOT, “the end”, yet.)

And now Bethel can be sacked, in the context of these developments going full blown, and rather than understand these things MUST occur first:

(Matthew 24:6) You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.

Jehovah’s witnesses minds will instead be gripped with the HOAX, that the end has come, all is done. JWs will be USELESS for helping others, or themselves, they were caught by the final apostate delusion, and its purpose is to crash Bethel, cancel the JW ministry, rob the place blind, and then tell JWs that is “all prophecy fulfilling brothers! All’s good! Expect Christ!”

THAT is why they are duping JWs with this hype of a premature end, just like God said by Paul and 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2.

Bethel Bypasses a Big Chunk of 8th King World Government Prelude Development

Bethel is BYPASSING the final prophecy phase, so they can over advance JW minds:

1. To CONCEAL the true meaning of their own siege and downfall;

2. To better control JWs with hysteria propelled obedience directives “at that time”. (WT11/15/13 pg 20, par 17, #3);

3. To support the overall global “doomsday” impression, to distract people’s minds;

But as Christ stated, these things are a signal he is NOT going to arrive just yet. “These things must take place, but the end is not yet”, is what all this war and unrest means, JUST AS CHRIST PLAINLY STATED. TWICE RECORDED!!!!

(Luke 21:9) Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disorders, do not be terrified. For these things must occur first, but the end does not [occur] immediately.”

That is because this “Christ Clue” is very very very IMPORTANT to comprehend NOW!

And why? Because we do NOT want to get fooled with JWs and the world, that this is “the end”.

Because the rivals of God, designed the global tribulation events, to control the global crisis “problem”, so they can, as in WW1, WW2 and the Cold War, resolve it to highlight the presentation of the global “solution”. THEY create the “problem”, so they can become the big “solution”, very simple. This time, that “solution” is 8th King World Government, in full (Rev17:8-13), to instead HEAL in global recovery, from this period that will seem like “doomsday” to many misled people, including Jehovah’s witnesses:

(Revelation 13:3) And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.

But as we see, this global healing inspires great wildbeast “admiration” (Rev17:8), so that people not only accept the 666, they invite it, they celebrate it like a post world war soldier homecoming parade. THAT is what the “tribulation of those days” leads to, NOT “the end”.

THAT is why Christ said “”These things must take place, but the end is not yet”, because world government forming that signal world peace and security proclamation, is what triggers his arrival. (1Thess5:1-3)

As we see here, national regaining of power, comes before “the judgment itself”, that is the total world judgment of Christ of Matthew 25:31-46:

(Isaiah 41:1) “Attend to me in silence, you islands; and let national groups themselves regain power. Let them approach. At that time let them speak. Let us come up close together for the judgment itself.

That healing of Revelation 13:3, is how ” national groups themselves regain power”. Now keep in mind, the “national groups” have not bottom out, yet. THAT is what is coming, and that is what Bethel and others are saying will be “the end”. IT will not be “the end”, the nations MUST “regain power” BEFORE the “judgment itself”, and Jehovah is talking not about the “temple judgment”, but the BIG ONE, the global judgment of every human being on Earth, every last one!

And THAT is why Christ could most assuredly give us today one of the shortest, yet most important clues in the Bible, of the circumstances that WILL NOT lead to his arrival in this “These things MUST take place, but the end is not yet”, until “these things” also mature into that SIGNAL GLOBAL SUPER-RECOVERY. It is that simple folks, this doomsday is going to RECOVER into the most enormous and massive global capital recovery in ALL HUMAN HISTORY.

BTG trillions, at that time, not next, is what also boosts the global recovery! THAT is when BTG and Christendom are to be deposed, AFTER they help sell world government to their flocks, like the harlot they are! The complete “harlot” rides a COMPLETE “scarlet wildbeast”, which is complete in world government in full!!!!

ALL THESE TOTAL THINGS MUST COMPLETE:

(Revelation 10:6-7) “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

And that “good news” of the “sacred secret” outlines ALL of these things.

By this supposed “doomsday” transforming into great global recovery, that way they can “market” and give world government, and some of its recovery riches, and its “golden age” hopes, to the global peoples, so that they accept the 666 ever so willingly, amplified by great global joy, the “latest breakthroughs”, and great global hopefulness at the same scale, of the doomsday “that was sure a close call” impression that preceded it.

“AS THOUGH” “slaughtered to death”, but not really eh? Yes, that is how this doomsday fear is transformed into global joy, as the global atmosphere to present that final world government.

And it is ALL foretold in all its key features of circumstances leading to it. The apostasy (Dan11:30-35; Dan8:11-14), the “the end” hype” (2Thess2:1-2), the temple judgment (Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14; Zech3:1-9), the 7th King fall (Rev13:3; Dan11:42-43), the ministry recovery (Rev9-10), the final warning (Rev11:1-7), the 8th King rise into world government (Rev11:7; Rev17:8-13), Christ arrival, the global sheep sweep first, the Kingdom conquest, the main deceptions, ALL OF IT, is in prophecy, in short order. It is all their on about a page or two of printed 12 pt text! A SINGLE PAGE of parts of the overall prophecy!!!!

And all of it is GAUGED in the Seven Trumpet Framework of temporal events! ALL OF IT!

The formulaic and cyclic purpose for which these “things that must take place” are designed by the rival governmental system, must run its course fully. “These things” that Christ spoke about, define the “tribulation of those days”. The tribulation of those days” is outlined in the first four plagues. The first four plagues are the context of the first four trumpets of the temple judgment. It is THAT simple, future events will PROVE it, that is the way it is supposed to be:

(Revelation 1:1) A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.

And that is the way it WILL BE, for? God and Christ’s “slaves”. Not for foolish virgins, not for goats, not for apostates who leave the holy covenant for the UN NGO covenants (Dan11:30), no, for Christ slaves! So these “discreet virgins” can give light to all sorts of people in this massive global phase, which Bethel is just skipping over in an evil signal bypass we have been well warned to be on the look out for!

That creates the final global context, a global crisis to define the big “problem”, in a global crisis, so they can then become the big global heroes, with their world government global “solution”, to then engineer world peace, as easily as they engineered world war. They just direct resources and impressions that that is really their goal, but it is a ruse.

In fact their world peace, is based on 100% control of the global military war machine, and leads to their final agenda, the “four winds” period of attempted global depopulation, so dire, so real, so bad, Jesus Christ said this about it:

(Matthew 24:22) In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.

THAT is the “days” that God and Christ “cut short”, not the world government boys, they are exterminated in that phase of Armageddon, after being given total, dual, forewarning.

Now that says NO FLESH would be saved folks, we are talking all creation being put in jeopardy, by this total conglomeration of all global weaponry and energy technology, by one global 8th King King North power cabal backed by demons who very well would love to exterminate all life on Earth, before they are imprisoned in abyss as POW’s of Armageddon. At that time folks, the “elite agenda”, to simply disburden the planet of billions of “useless eaters”, for their “next generations”, to live high on the hog as global kings, will be overridden by the abyss-bound demon agenda of Satan.

THAT is why, that world peace period, becomes the most dangerous period of all human history, because God has no reason to protect goats from these globalist genocidal aims, in fact they can just aid God’s purpose, by giving the goats to the world power system they themselves have chosen, which may very well be how some of them end up in a “winepress of the anger of God”, but it is a “winepress” men of military system minds, have built on earth.

Final Note on the Future JW “Henny Penny” Global Laughing Stock Development

‘Where are you going, Hennypenny?’ says Cocky-locky. ‘Oh! I’m going to tell the king the sky’s a-falling,’ says Henny-penny.

(All WT quotes from Watchtower July 15, 2015 “Your Deliverance is Getting Near” article, or as noted.)

Here they have JWs expecting the “preaching work” to end, as implied from Bethel’s own evil mouth to be cancelled in this future time of tribulation:

9a This will not be the time to preach the “good news of the Kingdom.” That time will have passed. The time for “the end” will have come! (Matthew 24:14) 

Now with all “these things that must [still] take place”, which have been covered above, still having to form to present final world government in the future, in mind, imagine what JWs are going to look like going door to door with this so-called “hard hitting judgment message” as their ministry is cancelled and transformed into this one message of “judgment doom”.

9b No doubt God’s people will proclaim a hard-hitting judgment message. This may well involve a declaration announcing that Satan’s wicked world is about to come to its complete end. The Bible likens this message to hailstones when it says: “Great hailstones, each about the weight of a talent, fell from heaven on the people, and the people blasphemed God because of the plague of hail, for the plague was unusually great.”—Revelation 16:21.

Brothers and sisters, now IMAGINE Jehovah’s witnesses, in the start of their own temple judgment upon a UN allied and pedophile and money launderer infested and infiltrated APOSTATE ministry, going out to tell the world of its own “judgment” in its “complete end”. See the problem here?

1. That “end” will not arrive, as JWs expected, as covered here as to why.

2. Instead, Bethel will be being sacked and trampled as Daniel 8:13-14 in the Daniel 11:41 global INVASION of the JW Organization.

Imagine THAT!

And then, JWs are to take a “hard-hitting judgment message” to their neighbors and the world while their own house is crashing for many sins? (1Pet4:15-17) Is this some kind of cruel joke?

Yes it is, because King North guides this apostasy as per Daniel 11:32a, and yes, Jehovah’s witnesses are being set up to be the global laughing stock of modern times, THEY are to be the butt of this cruel joke.

Because that “judgment” is not coming yet, instead year over year will pass by, as JWs “hold their heads high” expecting Christ way way way too soon. As the months wind by, as the years of desolation of Daniel 8:13-14 run their course, as the global recovery foretold instead starts to form, as the sword-stroke eventually must be healed, for a more hopeful world system, JWs will have to finally admit, within a few years (Dan8:14; Hos6:1-3; Isa37:30-32):

Something, something is TERRIBLY WRONG HERE brothers! What gives? What happened here?

And that is when, we will have to inform the JWs who are left, of what is REALLY going on, and God and Christ will aid this recovery, it is to get great global attention when all these things come upon misled and apostatized JWs, as misled by their apostate and impostor enemy system backed leadership, just as exactly foretold in detail.

But think about this.

As this global crisis starts to go full blown, and Bethel starts to go into the desolations of the temple judgment (Dan11:41; Matt24:15), and JWs think in error it is all “the end” for real, over excited, shaken of reasoning ability, dull in discernment to the hyped up nth degree, THIS is what Bethel is telling them to expect:

8 Although we do not fully understand all that will happen during that time of test, we can expect that it will involve some measure of sacrifice. In the first century, Christians had to leave behind their possessions and endure hardships in order to survive. (Mark 13:15-18) To remain faithful, will we be willing to experience material loss? Will we be ready to do whatever is required of us to prove our loyalty to Jehovah? Just think! At that time, we will be the only ones following the example of the ancient prophet Daniel by continuing to worship our God no matter what.—Daniel 6:10, 11.

 

“At that time”, rather, super-hyped “its the end” JWs lemmings will be the only fools obeying deadly apostate men of the Governing Body of Pied Pipery,  for the enemy system,  inside the JW organization, there to send JWs to “safe house” of capture:

“”Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered:…

[And sandwiched into the admonishment:]

(3) At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (Watchtower, November 15, 2013, pg. 20, par. 17, #3)

“At that time”??? Folks, IT ALREADY SOUNDS CRAZY, CRAAAAAAY ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! OK? IF your IN THE ORG, GET OUT, NOW! (Matt24:15) This is ALREADY CRAZY TALK, OK? NUTS, INSANE, UNSOUND, DANGEROUS, DEADLY, WRONG, EVIL, NOT GOOD, BAD, WICKED, DECEPTIVE, LYING, ETC

 

Figuratively speaking, however, God’s people will flee to the refuge that Jehovah provides.

Brothers and sisters, do we see anything wrong with this picture?
Brothers and sisters, do we see anything wrong with this picture?
Brothers and sisters, do we see anything DEAD wrong with this evil picture?

And that is why, when we can, we need to help these poor misled Jehovah’s witnesses. They followed, they did not lead this folly, and we must keep that in mind. JWs would have just as willingly followed the real apostles of Christ, had they been there at Bethel, rather than these GB devils and frauds. But God had to allow the error to go to us too, to see if we love truth, more than sinner men and all their grandiose claims.

BUT we have to understand, wicked apostate and impostor leadership, NOT Jehovah’s witnesses own will, is what has misled Jehovah’s people at his time. We have to be armed with reality of prophecy, and ready to help Jehovah’s witnesses when, not if, they fall on very hard and bitter times, it is coming, THAT is why the Devil has gotten INSIDE of Bethel, to try to lead JWs to doom, and to have JW obey his Pied Piper to aid the process.

That “deliverance getting near” is NOT to God from Christ, it is to be an attempted “deliverance” of JWs to the martial enemy system authorities, plain and simple. THIS is real! And it is going to get more real, in the near future. And that is why the evil enemy inside of Bethel called that article “YOUR Deliverance is Getting Near”, they KNOW what that really means fro misled JWs “at that time”.

KNOW THIS

When Jehovah gets active on this modern GB enthroned “City of Murderers” (Matt22:1-14), and their slave beating, and sheep killing laws and policies, the world will see the Governing Body turned in to a heap of Gehenna bound CARNAGE, one way or another, spiritually or physically, because these men are involved with the current and future murderers of Jehovah’s people, and God will expose these demons for who, what, where and why they are allowed to exist for this exact purpose:

(Exodus 9:14-18) 14 For at this time I am sending all my blows against your heart and upon your servants and your people, to the end that you may know that there is none like me in all the earth. 15 For by now I could have thrust my hand out that I might strike you and your people with pestilence and that you might be effaced from the earth. 16 But, in fact, for this cause I have kept you in existence, for the sake of showing you my power and in order to have my name declared in all the earth. 17 Are you still behaving haughtily against my people in not sending them away? 18 Here I am causing it to rain down tomorrow about this time a very heavy hail, the like of which has never occurred…

That “hail” is coming for the WTBTS visible epicenter of God’s coming initial wrath on these criminals, so that we understand the meaning of this entire development, past, present, and the future it must unwind into for a final warning.

(Isaiah 28:18-19) And your covenant with Death will certainly be dissolved, and that vision of yours with Sheol will not stand. The overflowing flash flood, when it passes through—you must also become for it a trampling place. 19 As often as it passes through, it will take you men away, because morning by morning it will pass through, during the day and during the night; and it must become nothing but a reason for quaking TO MAKE OTHERS UNDERSTAND what has been heard.” (Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14)

This modern apostate signal cabal of evil at Bethel, as exemplified, led and fronted by the Governing Body Circus of Murder, is not going to escape, nor is their “smooth word” viper tongue mouth (Dan11:32a) going to forever “damage control” what they are really sowing, and that they will really reap in the future. It is the Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s witnesses, but all anointed Christians here that cry (Matt25:1-13), and wake up, but not all will make this divine cut.

And how will we know?

The “fool virgin” “oil” will not provide valid light, just more darkness.

Remember, the “five foolish virgins” do finally come back later, it is implied they get some oil to make that return…

(Matthew 25:11) …Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came…

…but it is implied “seller’s oil”, it is as fraudulent as what has led to this predicament in the first place, it will misinterpret the temple judgment meaning.

It may not even recognize it has been the temple judgment, it will not explain Daniel 8″13-14, and it will produce more error, but it will NOT be allowed in with the “five discreet virgin” final light up, of the truth of all these developments to enlighten the final warning, the “second witness”, of the “TWO witnesses”.

(Matthew 25:10-12) . . .and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell you the truth, I do not know you.’

And that is why there are TWO witnessings to precede the full-blown arrival of God and Christ to judge every human of earth, and save many, far beyond the narrow confines of the current JW smoke blowing delusion that they alone are to be saved.

In fact, had it been “the end” as JWs predict in error, UN NGO 666 toting JWs, even if totally misled, would be the first to be destroyed by God. Like the GB, JWs merely assume they are in good standing, in error, too. So, instead, the temple judgment will create the Daniel 8:14 “right condition” in the anointed Christian global body on earth, well before world government completes, to fully warn it will indeed trigger the Earth shaking arrival of the Christ of God Almighty, and he is coming when they are ready, complete and state in world peace, the final globally seen signal of his arrival.

Bethel is simply skipping over all this truth, to smokescreen their doom, to JWs, and to set them up like ducks for capture globally.

Big Salvation Message

The only thing we judge and condemn, as shown in prophecy, is apostate fake apostles of Revelation 2:2, the world receives the BIG SALVATION OFFER OF ALL TIME, that ANYONE can be saved, if God forgave JWs for their pile of mountainous sins, ANYONE can be saved by choosing Christ and God’s Kingdom, instead of 666 human erred world government as produced by the demons of the heavenly rebellion. (Eph6:12)

We have no reason to judge any other person or Christian, because all can repent and be saved, and the good news is, as per Revelation 14:1-8, Christ completes the “everlasting good news”, the preaching NEVER ENDS, and many will be saved, even from the newbie ranks of modern and current prisoners freed from the freshly to-be-destroyed likes of Babylon the Great, live and real-time, at that very time of Revelation 14:1-8 fulfillment.

This hope is going forth, backed by actual angels of Christ, in this salvation GUARANTEED OFFER:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

As the events that form this finality, are in action to this statement:

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

Thus many of God’s “my people” are still in, and will still be stuck in, various dungeons of Babylon the Great. As with ancient Babylon, when God topples Babylon the Great under world government authority, outlawed and deposed globally, some people, now currently in BTG, will be FREED to salvation! (Rev11:13) THAT is the hopeful meaning of why God deposed Babylon in the first place, to free his people, and tons of other people too, just like in 539 BCE, same story, same purpose, same salvation meaning, but this one is going to be the big one!

We have doom for the apostates claiming to have the seal, but not having it (Rev9), but we have the greatest message of hope and salvation for the world at large, even for people involved with the enemy system, so that this final warning, is also a final offer of guaranteed salvation for ANYONE willing, and thus the final message is “bittersweet”, yes, but balanced with great guaranteed hope that God and Christ are out to SAVE SHEEP FIRST, and ANYONE can respond. Jesus Christ will then expend MORE EFFORT making the salvation merchandise “pick up”, than he did expending his life, making the divine sacrifice, to even make that purchase in the first place.

There is a reason God and Christ call this “The Good News of God’s Kingdom”. Because it is GREAT NEWS! And it has to PROVE it is great news. And it will. They don’t call it the “good news”, for nothing. Many more people must hear the REAL GOOD NEWS, because ti is GOOD NEWS, for real.

The NWO, not God is who wants to kill billions, “Kill Bill”, but God wants to save billions. And that is GOOD NEWS, God will serve up the very doom, for the NWO, that th NWO has planned for many. THEY are who get doomsday, not the millions of global sheep.

 

Beware, of the ” Seven Seals” Error—Out There!

Beware, of the “Seven Seals” Error—Out There!

In spite of all the discrediting, distraction and Bethel stalling, the classic Jehovah’s witnesses ministry took prophecy explanation far further than ANY MINISTRY on Earth.

1. They clarified basic Christian foundational truths, completing the original intent of the “Reformation”, while placing the world in its true prophetic context of that time as the Kingdom of God sovereign objective was made fully known, while a “League of Nations” 8th King designate rival system emerged.

2. Jehovah’s witnesses exposed BOTH the 7th King Anglo-American nation-state alliance, and the role it plays in producing and promoting the idea and actual structural global government entity, of 8th King World Government.

Thus, anyone can research, Christendom, by and large, joined the United Nations endorsement “harlot”, while taking prophecy no further than Roman world power manifestations, now all truly old hat history. Thus when Jehovah’s witnesses laid out the basic sovereign theme of Revelation, in this same maturing conflict with human powers, as to who it is that will rule planet Earth, they summarized the master pattern of what it all means, for modern times.

Thus all the symbolic meanings in Revelation have been laid out by Jehovah’s witnesses ALONE as far as an organized global ministry, so complete, many scattered Christendom commentators now know the “wildbeast” is all bout World Government. Now global researchers expose the globalization objective of reaching that global goal of world government as they also explain and expose the very “world-war-to-world-government”, “Crisis”-to-“Solution”, “Global Problem”-to-“Global Solution” CYCLIC global-formula they use to present just such a “Final Solution: World Government”. (Rev13:3; Isa41:1)

It is modern Bethel who is silent on all these modern global connections to modern prophecy (Dan8:12b), of globalization (Rev16:13-16), and forming world government (Rev17:8-18, Dan11:40-45) and its final global cycle (Dan11:41-43), of that same formula, to be used a final time. (Rev13:3; Rev17:8-13)

Thus despite the modern apostate Bethel organized diversion, we need to pay attention to the first Revelation principles as expounded by Jehovah’s witnesses, merely now in the foretold final apostasy phase (2Thess2:!-4; Zech3:1-3), as promoted by apostate Bethel and its impostor GB clergy leadership, for one goal: Discredit Jehovah’s witnesses, forget about all modern prophecy, it is “the end” instead. (2Thess2:1-2)

Thus it is ALL connected together. But Bethel’s error is not the only one out there is it? No, Bethel has inspired many speculations and alternative explanations. Now one of these provable errors, makes the mistake of using the “seven seals” progression, as if a future sequence of real world events, yet to unfold fully, BEFORE the “seven trumpets” manifest.

But in the Revelation principles and teaching of Jehovah’s witnesses, the “seals” are “secrets” that Christ “the lamb” was given access to understand. Christ has already been appointed by God, to “open” those “seals” long ago. And thus Christ already understands how the “seven seals” actually manifest in the “seven trumpets”.

The “seals” were simply the full “sacred secret” that Christ already “opened” (Rev4-5), because he must know beforehand, how the “last days” unfold. The “seven trumpets” and their roughly parallel “seven plagues” are the true final gauge of the final real world event future final progression to World Government, and thus the Christ arrival, to settle this sovereign issue, once and for all among rival human powers attempting to usurp Christ’s God given earthly throne. (Rev11:15)

What will be re-explained here, is how the “seven seals” are NOW being used, by some, to promote an over-advanced, premature Christ arrival delusion. (2Thess2:1-2)

This requires following the logic of this article all the way. This article covers the truthful seven seals “opened secret” logic, the purpose of the “doomsday” premature end delusion, and how the seven seals error, aids that delusion. An example in Robert King’s forecast will be examined, while the generic effect is also describe in the “seven seals” use “out there” in the world, because there are other premature expectations associated with the seven seals in Christendom’s basic speculations, it is not just Robert King who has misread the “seven seals” meaning.

BEWARE!

“Seven Seals” Were “Seven Secrets” Christ Already “Opened” and Understands, as The Complete Revelation Whole

The “seven seals” are “secrets”, not a future “sequence”, and they are ALREADY ALL opened to the Lamb Christ’s full understanding—do not be misled. The seven trumpets and seven plagues, contain all the full final details of the things Christ has gained access to, regarding the coming final global progression to the Christ arrival. The “seven seals” are a Christ understood outline, of the same events, but the “seven trumpets” and “seven plagues” will be the real world REALITY, of those events manifesting in final form, in the future.

So as not to be misled, thinking the “seven seals” are a future sequence of real world events, to manifest as such before the seven trumpets manifest, in the order they appear in Revelation’s canon (chapters 6-8),  a very important clarification must be made at this time.

The “seals” are symbols of “secrets” no one but God understood at one time. “Opening” a “seal”, meant Christ understood the secret and its eventual sequential purpose, as the seventh seal, contained the whole “seven trumpets” understanding—because the “seven trumpets” will be the REAL EVENTS, not the “seven seals” outline Christ has had to have known, for quite some time.

(Revelation 8:1-2) And when he opened the seventh seal, a silence occurred in heaven for about a half hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels that stand before God, and seven trumpets were given them.

The reason the “seventh seal” contains the “seven trumpets” is because it completes the full understanding, given to Christ by God, in those “seven trumpets” for Christian benefit, as long as we are not misled. And thus the “seventh seal” already opened to Christ total understanding, even before the first witnessing cycle of Jehovah’s witnesses started in 1914-1918.

Remember, the “seventh seal” in effect, contains all “seven trumpets”. Thus its TOTAL meaning ends with the seventh TRUMPET, not in the “seal” itself, but in the seven trumpet REALITIES.

In effect the “seventh seal”, “unsealed”, was divine “opened” understanding given “the Lamb” of ALL SEVEN TRUMPETS, as Christ understood, already, the totality of Revelation.

The “seven seals” prophecy is unique. The opening of the “seals” is a prophecy about Christ’s God given understanding that Christ obtained in the God’s Kingdom coronation. The “seals” contain the future outline of real events that are within and parallel the “seven trumpet” great detail of real world events in the first and last Revelation 8-11 “TWO witnesses” Kingdom proclamation cycles—this is why the “seven sealed” “scroll” is “two sided”.

Thus the “seven seals” understandings already given to and known by Christ, and their subsequent visions of the future outline, make the “seven seals”, what we may call, a “nested prophecy”. This is how and why the “seventh seal” contains the “seven trumpets” mega-prophecy outline now applicable to the final global sequence of the future.

The “seventh seal”, TOTAL AND COMPLETE Christ foresight, concludes when manifested fully, with all seven trumpet REALITIES, within that “seventh seal”. It was just the final totality of the “sacred secret” (Rev10:5-7), which Christ was given understanding of by God, by special appointment (Rev4-5), to NOW complete to “brought to a finish” completion.

Thereby the whole Revelation was opened to Christ in those “seven seals” and their nested totality of prophecies including the “seven trumpets”, well after he was originally given the Revelation prophecy symbology, to deliver to the apostle John in visions, hundreds of years ago, at the approximate end of the first century.

Christ did not always understand the Revelation totality. That is the central meaning of the “seven seals” being opened by Christ, as the God anointed and selected “Lamb of God”, appointed by the Omnipotent God Almighty, for Christ to fully understand how Revelation was to unfold, before guiding that totality of fulfillment. 

Christ Must Get Insight and Direction From God

Now when Christ gave the apostle John the Revelation (Rev1:1), he did NOT yet understand it. Neither Christ, nor angels, have understood God’s purpose completely from the get go, they needed to also exercise faith and patience! God ALONE is the Omnipotent All Knowing God.

(Matthew 24:36) “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.

(1 Peter 1:10-12) Concerning this very salvation a diligent inquiry and a careful search were made by the prophets who prophesied about the undeserved kindness meant for you. 11 They kept on investigating what particular season or what sort of [season] the spirit in them was indicating concerning Christ when it was bearing witness beforehand about the sufferings for Christ and about the glories to follow these. 12 It was revealed to them that, not to themselves, but to you, they were ministering the things that have now been announced to you through those who have declared the good news to you with holy spirit sent forth from heaven. Into these very things angels are desiring to peer.

And that is why this ” neither in heaven nor upon earth nor underneath the earth was there a single one able to open the scroll or to look into it” was so dire; if no one could open the “scroll’s” “seven seals”, then no one could understand what it meant, but God. The good news is, God selected the Lamb to do so.

(Revelation 5:1-5) And I saw in the right hand of the One seated upon the throne a scroll written within and on the reverse side, sealed tight with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice: “Who is worthy to open the scroll and loose its seals?” 3 But neither in heaven nor upon earth nor underneath the earth was there a single one able to open the scroll or to look into it. 4 And I gave way to a great deal of weeping because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to look into it. 5 But one of the elders says to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

(Daniel 7:13-14) “I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One. 14 And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.

And that is why Christ as the “Lamb” ” was found worthy to open the scroll” and to “look into it“, meaning the secrets in those “seven seals”, were revealed by God, to Jesus Christ the “Lamb of God”, well beforehand—and that is why the “seven trumpets” are the actuality of the outline of completions in detail and they “register” with the “seven plagues”.

And at that time, not before, Christ gained “seven”, total, “open seal” understanding of God’s “sacred secret” overall in the whole Revelation, and that is why that 1914 event was so great and important. Christ could then guide the whole process since 1914, in total understanding, as the anointed King, appointed by God, in God’s Kingdom first (but not last), for that very purpose. The JW interpretation is only incomplete in that the Messianic Kingdom must also complete.

The “God’s Kingdom” foregleams allow the same principles to apply to both the “first witnessing” (1914-1918) and the final “second witnessing” (future) cycles.

And God’s Kingdom is not the only “Kingdom” Christ must manifest within.

(Luke 22:28-30) “However, you are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel.

There are TWO Kingdoms there.

(Daniel 2:45) out of the mountain (God’s Kingdom) a stone (Messianic Kingdom) was cut not by hands…

(Daniel 2:35) …as for the [Messianic Kingdom] stone that struck the image, it became a large mountain [Messianic Kingdom; Rev11:15] and filled the whole earth.

The Messianic Kingdom, not God’s Kingdom, was only BORN in 1914, as Jehovah’s witnesses are well aware of the concept of two Kingdom related developments. And it too must complete. (Rev7:1-8; Rev14) And that is the heavenly event when Christ received the “seven seals” understanding. (Dan4-5) It is modern apostate and infiltrated Bethel who is “set in opposition” (2Thess2:3-4; Dan8:12b) to completing this actually easy-to-see understanding.

Christ is not going to take Messianic Kingship, still required, in a for now incomplete Messianic Kingdom—that is why the full anointing process must be completed in the future. That required future completion will be the final Kingdom agency, the Messianic Kingdom of Christ.

(Daniel 2:44) the God of heaven
(already in His Kingdom) will set up a (Christ’s) kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. 

God’s Kingdom never has required being “set up”, it always has been, and that is why we know the “stone” of Daniel 2:31-45 is the Messianic Kingdom still requiring that complete “set up”.

It must also yet to receive a warning “second witness” Kingdom proclamation!… which this very “Revelation of God” forecast, in “two witnessings”, reveals the very final details of, after also setting the preview patterns since 1914, for us to know the guaranteed future global circumstances that lead to Christ arrival in detail—NOW, before it all manifests, to aid the final warning apostate Bethel is now concealing, which is aided by other errors out there! (And this is why Bethel is dealt with first, in the temple judgment of Jehovah’s witnesses, and that first. (1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14; Rev8:3-5; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5)

True, the “seven seals” do contain a PARALLEL prophecy sequence, but it manifests with the seven trumpets and plagues actualities, as real temple and global events to lead to the Christ arrival; the “seven seals” are an outline Christ was given in FULL understanding of by God, before the real events take place in the future. (Rev5)

The “seven TRUMPETS” contain the the real world total final cycle fulfillment prophecy sequence!

The “seven trumpets” (Rev8:1) which is a “seven trumpets” sequential framework of real world events of the future (based on the master patterns of the past), are the final global sequence coming for activation soon, to start with the temple judgment (Rev8)—not the “seven seals”. The seven trumpets outline the future reality of the “seven seals” outline Christ has fully understood for decades.

Of course those who do not realize the 1914-1918 “first witnessing” cycle of the “TWO witnesses” repeats, will not understand how we know the final cycle “second witnessing” final cycle is that coming repetition which will run to completion as all of Revelation 8-11 repeats in the future.

And God “warmed up” Christians (and others) with the post 1914 Jehovah’s witnesses ministry, the “first witness” of the two, so by now, by that preview “first witness” ascertained AFTER it fulfilled, swe can know the outline of the final cycle BEFORE it fulfills, because knowing it BEFOREHAND is how the warning is MAXIMIZED as these events unfold, to PROVE it is the valid forecast, based on the first witnessing of 1914-1918.

And that is why everyone and his mother, and apostate Bethel themselves, is trying to discredit 1914-1918.

Because the 1914-1918 world-war-to-world-government first cycle, with a Kingdom of God sovereign counter-announcement, is the primary master pattern, a true picture, of the same sovereign theme that will also manifest the final cycle coming—but this time, it results in complete 8th King World Government, and thus the trigger of the Christ arrival.

If it takes the global circumstances in those seven trumpets and plagues to lead complete World Government to bring the doubters into this awareness, so be it—that is why God is running this final cycle to its MAXIMUM FORETOLD extent—ALL THE WAY! MORE PEOPLE, can be saved, by the entire prophecy and global development to “8th King” world government running its whole and complete multi-year course in the future. When people see 8th King World Government and global scale of power and anti-Christian activity, what choice will they then have? This:

The Kingdom of God, and the Messianic Kingdom guaranteed victors:

(Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”

And THAT is why the SEVENTH TRUMPET, is that REALITY of the coming Victory of God and His Christ! Not in the “sixth seal”, but in the sixth-to-seventh trumpets!:

(Revelation 10:7) in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

(And you can verify the Revelation 8 final cycle inception temple judgment by its Daniel 8:13-14 timing, phasing and temple judgment event meaning, for God and Christ to bring about the “right condition” in the now apostatized “temple”. Because Daniel 8:13-14 is the starting temple judgment parallel of Revelation 8:3-5’s parallel events of that same “right condition” “purification” symbology of that Revelation 8:3-5 “fire of the altar” purification meaning, they are PARALLEL. And the global event context that allows that future temple judgment parallel to manifest, to just be beginning with the whole final global-cycle, is in the “seven plagues” PARALLEL, as the “seven trumpets” spiritual context, must parallel the “seven plagues” global context.)

(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God.

Now what eventually follows this is not intended to “attack” other Bible students in this regard, but to explain what the basic symbol of a “seal” is in its basic “sealed secret” meaning, “unsealed”, thus “opening” the “sacred” “secret” to Christ’s understanding, as he also “opens” it to his “slaves”. That is, Christ received this understanding to give it to YOU, and all of us:

(Revelation 1:1) A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.

It is not a big secret anymore.

This will now explain why the “seven secrets”, “seven seals”, are not the real world events to wake people up globally as compared to a GLOBAL SEVEN TRUMPET ALARM SEQUENCE! What’s the point of alarming people that it is “doomsday too late” already? No, those trumpet ALARMS are to wake people up for their salvation, first hand.

The TRUMPETS basic meaning is ALARMING HERALDS, a FINAL SEQUENCE OF CHRISTIAN “AUDIBLE” GLOBAL ALARMS, backed for success by God’s angels. And of course “alarming heralds” are meant to AID SALVATION of many! We already have these basics, from the original Jehovah’s witnesses Revelation first cycle summary. (But there are TWO, as in “two witnessings”, that will emerge with Revelation, and the final fulfillment cycle of the future.

Though I am not “attacking” other commentators, if an error is identified to promote a premature expectation of Christ arrival, and a premature expectation of “the end”, at the same time (2Thess2:1-2), I am under obligation to logically demonstrate how and why that error aids such a deception. So that others are NOT fooled when these very real global events start to manifest in the future at global scale!

Because premature expectations are used to mislead people, we need to understand why they want everyone thinking it is either the prelude to the Christ arrival, and or “the end of the world” “Armageddon” “doomsday”. The global “doomsday” psychology is promoted to amplify the general false expectation, backed by massive global events to manifest in the next several years, TO MISLEAD AND CONFUSE PEOPLE, and use that imbalanced global psychology for the main objective later. (Rev13:3)

1. And this is because, premature expectations and hyped-up-anxiety, help distract, confuse and mislead people. So I will cover the purpose of these general “doomsday” delusions first, for their general global audience use.

2. Then we can get into the general and specific “seven seals” error that is developing out in the world which aids the effect of over-advancement, focused on the Christian audience.

The Purpose of the Global “Doomsday Effect”

Now we will cover the general manner in which the global “doomsday effect” and its downturn phase works in its preparatory global psychological setup for the eventual global “hopeful” “peace and happiness” recovery phase. The whole cyclic formula utilizes that initial gloom for the eventual recovery to direct that hopefulness to the “solution”, present in this principle:

(Revelation 13:3) And I saw one of its heads as though (impression) slaughtered to death (problem), but (upturn) its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast (solution) with admiration.

Doomsday
noun
1. the day of the Last Judgment, at the end of the world.
2. any day of judgment or sentence.
3. nuclear destruction of the world.

adjective
4. given to or marked by forebodings or predictions of impending calamity; especially concerned with or predicting future universal destruction:
the doomsday issue of all-out nuclear war.
5. capable of causing widespread or total destruction:
doomsday weapons.

So “doomsday”, “judgment day”, “gloom and doom”, “world war three”, “assured mutual destruction”, “Armageddon”, and similar terms and ideas all support the same “the end of the world” expectation aided by great global uncertainty, further amplified by global events giving that impression as though doomsday.

But with God and His prophecy we do not need to be uncertain as to what this “doomful” final cycle will eventually lead to: “world government” and its final “world peace and security” phase. But we can note many of these themes have been subjects of movies, songs, books and stories which have become part of the global psychology of many cultures.

But there is also a delusion that supports this general global expectation,  present in, and aided by, the Christian prophecy complex. This includes the expectations of Jehovah’s witnesses as Bethel, “as though from us” (2Thess2:1-2), has also been heavily hyping an “end of the world” and “Armageddon” expectation. In fact, Bethel’s “the end” expectation delusion complex is the most premature and detailed one out there at this time, among claimant Christian commentators.

The Watchtower July 15, 2015 “Your Deliverance is Getting Near” article has shifted up Bethel’s “attack” as next, and has also programmed the manner in which it will unfold, as a “self fulfilling prophecy”.

But the Bible has warned us of this general and specific Christian based delusion, so it does tie in and add to the overall global “doomsday effect”.

The Basic Global Delusion: It’s “The End Next” Everyone!

And this is because God warned us, by Paul, of just such a false expectation to be on guard to recognize RIGHT NOW, wherever it may be present in its identified context!:

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3) However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. (way too soon!) Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it (Christ arrival and the end) will not come unless the apostasy comes first

That quickly “shaken from reason”, and that over excited false expectation:

1. Cloaks the truth that the final apostasy must be revealed first;

2. Aids the false “doomsday” expectation, in its overall key global deception;

3. Helps bypass the meaning of the coming 7th King downfall, upon which required fall (Dan11:42-43; Rev13:3), the 8th King final “rise” into World Government must follow (Rev17:8-13; Rev11:7), BEFORE Christ arrives. (Rev11:11-12; Rev16:17-20)

Thus that hyped up global “doomsday” expectation is aided by expecting the Christ arrival too soon as well, and vice versa, as promoted by many Christian ministries! It is part of a larger overall global “doomsday” effect, as the most general use of such a delusion principle, is aided by the Christian based delusion arriving at the same premature conclusion, to make people think, THAT “Christ arrival and Armageddon” is what is coming next—to eventually MISLEAD them to the decoy, first.

Now before the explanation of how the “seven seals” error also aids this impression, we need to understand WHY, IN GREATER DETAIL, they want people of the world (and Christians) to expect “the end” to soon.

And expecting the Christ arrival too soon, aids that MAIN GLOBAL DECEPTION for many people.

The “Global Crisis Problem” to “Global Reaction” to “Global Solution” Global Cycle Formula

Remember how they have used the “global crisis” model, in WW1 and WW2, and even the Cold WW3 “possible atomic doomsday” scare, to eventually present their big United Nations solution, as the “hopeful” grand finale of the cycle, EVERY TIME so far.

1. The 1914-1919 WW1 cycle resolved into the League of Nations global presentation in 1919;

2. The 1939-1945 WW2 cycle resolved into the United Nations global presentation in 1945;

3. The 1947-1990 Cold WW3 cycle resolved into the United Nations global presentation, “New World Order” mode, in 1990;

(4. Thus expecting a FOURTH global cycle, to result in World Government as the ultimate United Nations global presentation, is now predictable, logical, and prophetic, all at the same time.)

Let us look at the whole global cycle principle, and the intent of its “global psychological formula”, in prophecy. It is related to this “crisis”-“solution” global-formula, which Revelation 13 actually also outlines:

(Revelation 13:3) And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.

Now how is that a “sword stroke” CRISIS-to-“healing” SOLUTION formula which they use in the world to present UN presentations for global “admiration”?

Because Revelation 13:3 outlines the “problem”-“reaction”-“solution” formula, also known as the “Hegelian Dialectic”, as revealed by many global researchers, which is used to highlight the UN Decoy, aided by a greatly globally hopeful upturn turn of events.

And that same global-formula is also shown in Bible prophecy in this important symbolism form in Revelation 13. This global “sword stroke”-to-“healing” formula, when run globally as a CYCLE, is intended to create global-admiration for the wildbeast world government decoy as the target “global solution” to the “global problem” which just “miraculously” resolved—and it MUST run the whole assured formula, a final time, in the future!

And how does that global-formula of “assured doom”, transformed to great global hope celebration, work?

1. It works, by SUPER hyping up the “global problem” first.

A. Then, by design, it “miraculously” arrives at, instead, the “global solution”, which creates the “global admiration” “global reaction”, to then highlight 8th King World Government as the “global solution”, as amplified by this great psychological hopefulness this “plot twist” sets up at global scale.

2. To repeat, the formula works, by hyping up the “end of the world” false expectation first. Then, by design, it “miraculously” arrives at, instead, the “upswing turnaround recovery”, which creates the great global hope, to amplify the same “global admiration” “global reaction”, to then highlight the 8th King world government final presentation as the “global solution” GLOBAL FOCUS, as made more credible and believable by this great “miracle” and its massive psychological hopefulness which this transformation formula sets up at global scale.

3. Or, in other words, they hype the “global problem” “doomsday” “sword stroke” “slaughtered to death”, to then “miraculously” arrive at instead, the “global healing” “solution”, which creates the global “admiration” as a global unified “reaction”, to highlight 8th King World Government as the “global solution” GLOBAL FOCUS, which takes credit for this required global “healing”, from what seemed as though doomsday previously, which they do cause.

I wanted to hammer that in, because this is the FOURTH time they will use this global-formula—it is now predictable, and we know now it is prophecy, and it forecasts future global requirements which are also just plain logical!

The purpose is to manipulate global behavior, by playing the global-psychology, to be directed for their use: Totally accept World Government everybody!

Notice please, that the Revelation 13:3 prophecy shows the  “slaughtered to death” is “as though” “slaughtered to death”. It is not actually the global “death stroke”, it is “as though“—it is the IMPRESSION, the false expectation, AS IF “doomsday”, but it is not actually “doomsday”.

And when that “doomsday”, turns by design, to great global “healing” and global “hope” instead, it amplifies the “admiration” of the “solution”, wildbeast world government, to the same amped up degree, but for then global positive effect, as the doomsday impression, formerly foreboded great global “end of the world” doom feelings very deeply in those misled.

Now when World Government and its United Nations “image” “nucleus” comes out of this “global sword stroke” phase of global war, they ascend into world government, which “revivification” also inspires the same global “admiration” for this wildbeast World Government:

(Revelation 17:8) The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss (Rev11:7), and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world.

That “admirable” effect on the global masses, is to be concurrent with that “admiration” of Revelation 13:3, in this final global war cycle to also resolve into that final wildbeast presentation as the focus of that global-admiration.

That is how BOTH Revelation 13:3 and Revelation 17:8, in symbol based insight from God, predicts their exact global-formula, and its “admiration” target, in its very basic description. It was used in WW1, (WW2, and Cold War cycles, too) and it will be used again, upon the same pattern, the fourth time in prophecy!

THAT is also why the first witnessing cycle of Jehovah’s witnesses already contains the pattern of the final cycle—but this time they will be highlighting 8th King world government.

It is of critical importance that we do NOT get fooled by that global “admiration” effect to focus on World Government:

(Revelation 14:9-12) And another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. 12 Here is where it means endurance for the holy ones, those who observe the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.”

THAT is how they sell world government, by great global-hopefulness to be produced, when the final global-“sword stroke” phase, is then transformed into the final phase of great global “hope”, by a “healing” phase brought about by the very target entity intended to be accepted as the “global solution”, as world government becomes the “global savior” counterfeit, from a prelude phase that was designed to seem as if “the end of the world”.

And many people will buy this trick! BE AWARE NOW, and later, when it comes!

And that is how we know, it is not yet “the end”, it is a great global crisis, the “tribulation of those days” yet to come, that is designed to resolve into great global “healing”, to then highlight that final UN “abyss ascension” into 8th King total World Government. Then the great global judgment can come:

(Isaiah 41:1) “Attend to me in silence, you islands; and let national groups themselves regain power. Let them approach. At that time let them speak. Let us come up close together for the judgment itself.

Thus national groups “regaining power” is what then leads to the real arrival of Christ for global judgment, because then the 8th King World Government sovereign rival of God’s Kingdom, is in its final complete form. Then Christ can arrive, because all the national “pins” are fully gathered in unified defiance (Rev16:13-16), and “racked” completely under world government, for the Christ Kingdom “bowling ball” STRIKE! (Dan2:31-45)

The Nature of a “Seven Seals” Error

Thus those who think the “seven seals” is as a whole sequence of the future in real world events in the timing of those “seals” “opening”, as revealed in Revelation 6-8 pre-seven-trumpets canonical position, to thus be required to fully transpire before the “seven trumpets”, as if Christ has already arrived in the sixth seal, are now subject to that very delusion “to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here”, way way way too soon!

Thus, in such an error, they will think, it is all over by the time the seven trumpets are due to but be beginning, in that over advanced progression, allowed by this very “seven seals” error, out there now.  Example:

Reasonably, the sacred secret of God is not finished until all 144,000 members of the woman’s seed are sealed and the great crowd is gathered. (in the sixth seal, before the seven trumpets begin) Such developments, culminating with the fall of mystical Babylon the Great, would truly validate all prophecy and mark the finish of the sacred secret of God. With no further delay the nations will then brought to the situational battlefield of Armageddon.—Robert King

When in reality the Revelation itself was “opened” to Christ in 1914 in those already “opened” “seven seals”, to his total understanding of all of Revelation, before these things began to unfold from that time forward, as guided by Christ, as appointed by God, for this exact “last days” purpose, which we are now in the “time of the end” of those “last days”. We are deep in this now, and this is all so we KNOW what is going on, NOW:

(Revelation 1:1) A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.

Do we really think, God designed and inspired the whole Revelation, for Christians to still be waffling in guesses, divisions and assumptions THIS DEEP into the end period? No, Jehovah’s witnesses have indeed opened up the preview we need to know, because it is the exact “snapshot” “master pattern” of the final cycle! THAT is why we do not reject 1914-1918 insights, just because MODERN Bethel has apostatized and been infiltrated by the enemy system!

THEY WANT ALL PEOPLE TO DOUBT THE WHOLE JW MINISTRY! REMEMBER THAT!

There is no reason to try to subvert already lost Christendom, in regard to a Revelation they never have even discerned in any manner whatsoever! Jehovah’s witness exposé of post 1914 global significance, leading to world government, is the ONLY target worth undermining!

Do not throw the “Baby” out with the “bathwater” along with the whole “tub” and “house” too! Just discern and expose the true intent of the Bethel apostasy and infiltration! (Dan8:12; Dan11:32a)—to discredit the “first witnessing” truths to come forth after 1914-1918!

Important:

Now the thing that makes this error dangerous, is the events of the trumpets will occur. But they will not be in the over advanced time position that will be implied as if sealed irreversible judgments. They are judgments that MUST BE EXPOSED GLOBALLY in the final warning, to allow others to comprehend the true purpose of the Temple Judgment before:

1. World government completes, and;

2. Christ arrives;

The warning is most useful before the global developments that usher Christ’s arrival have completed. They are not simply “doomsday” depictions as Robert King is implying. Thus in reality the real world events, will NOT be “the end”, but the 7th King fall “tribulation of those days” phase, to allow the 8th King rise into full World Government before Christ arrives.

And those things are not “all wrapped” up when those events start to manifest, but are the context in which the final warning must emerge in, as the temple judgment timing and cleansing purpose complete during these intensifying global events, to come forth prior to World Government total completion.

This is why delusions that imply the trumpets are merely heralds of final global doom, are dangerous, and distract from the final warning mission that must come forth as Revelation 10 and Revelation 11:1-7, AFTER the temple judgment phasing and timing is completed as Daniel 8:13-14 and Revelation 8:3-5.

A Seven Seals Error, and How  it Works, and Why it Develops

Thus as an example, we can examine Robert King’s forecast more closely, but his is not the only one that makes this critical mistake. Robert King’s forecast, is based on the assumption the “seven seals” “open” as a final global sequence. And those “seven seals” fully manifest in real world events, before the seven trumpets even manifest.

Thus when Robert King says this:

“…the book of Revelation portrays the events associated with the last days as happening in a sequential order and in rapid succession. Hence, the first four seals of the symbolic scroll are unsealed, unleashing war, famine and pestilence, laying a quarter of mankind low.”

http://e-watchman.com/paris-terror-attack-bible-prophecy/

 

…we get the gist of this error of premature expectations.

Well the final global war will possibly manifest those events. But we see the basic problem of over advancement such an error will promote, when one assumes the seals are a future sequence of real world events in their Revelation 6-8 order, that must manifest even before the “seven trumpets” peep one alarm herald!

True, “Revelation portrays the events associated with the last days as happening in a sequential order”, but the real world event order is in the seven trumpets and their roughly parallel seven plagues. The “and in rapid succession” is assumption, as Revelation gives no indication of rapidity, but God fully completing His purpose, by fully requiring the entire global cycle to run its total and complete course. So that “rapid succession” is just more over-accelerated thinking, common in all delusions utilizing the hype of premature expectations.

True, there is no time for another century long ministry, and even 10 or so years is nothing overall, the real global cycle will run all the way to the skin of its teeth, God does NOTHING half baked, or half crocked, or cur corners rushed, to please human impatience. He stretches it out, in great global rocking events (Hag2:7), gauged in those seven trumpets and plagues, to get through to as many people as possible.

In King’s erred assumption, it is pretty much all over BEFORE the “seven trumpets” even begin! To Robert King, and others, the seven trumpets are not a global salvation herald, to result from the temple judgment, to inform many people of the seven trumpet final sequence, while it is unfolding in the final real world events, well before Christ arrives, and heading to human world government first!

Nope, in King’s forecast, if you are at the “seven trumpets” beginning, and have no faith in Christ, YOU are basically screwed, there is nothing of open global salvation note, being made globally known, in those seven trumpet heralds,—which is the very divine purpose of the “seven trumpets” to WAKE people up, to repent for salvation!

But in Robert King’s “seven trumpets” abortion, that divine purpose of the “seven trumpets” is fully bypassed:

 At that point, before the opening of the seventh seal, the door to salvation is officially closed.

In King’s mythology, everyone sealable is all sealed, the rest is just already determined judgments, everything is basically over, BEFORE the seven trumpets even begin. The “seven trumpets” are just heralds of irreversible doomsday, the very assumption of the premature end we have been describing in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2:

This is also discernable by reason of the fact that both the accomplished sealing of the Israel of God and the gathering of the great crowd who are destined to “come out of the great tribulation” are presented in context as taking place immediately before the opening of the seventh seal. At that point, before the opening of the seventh seal, the door to salvation is officially closed. Everyone who is going to inherit salvation is then either a sealed spiritual Israelite or they are part of the great crowd.http://jehovah-is-king.com/revelation/

Well, THAT is what happens, when one tries to gauge the final cycle “seven trumpets” sequence by those “seven seals”, rather than by the “seven trumpets”. They get all “out of whack” with divine reality!

In fact the “seven trumpets” are ALARMS FOR SALVATION, to be carried out as the temple judgment unfolds the first four trumpet meanings, to then be deployed by judged, recovered, purified, and approved anointed Christians (fifth trumpet), to include others (6th trumpet), in those first six trumpets so that in fact many people with little or no faith now, can “hear” those trumpets, and PREPARE for the late 6th trumpet Christ arrival of Revelation 11:11-12—WELL BEFORE world government completes, and well before Christ arrival!

THAT is the WHOLE POINT OF THOSE FIRST SIX TRUMPETS, it is the “SECOND” and final “witnessing” for SALVATION!

The seven trumpets are the alarming global heralds to aid human salvation which layout the whole core final progression of Revelation’s applicable final cycle fulfillments. And the “seven seals” do contain the outline of the full completions which manifest with the “seven trumpets” but that understanding has already been given to Christ as the only one worthy in Gods Kingdom to receive such honor and responsibility.

And the “seven sealed” “scroll” is a “two sided” scroll, meaning it has two applications, as Christ was given full understanding at the 1914 inception period , to oversee the first witnessing of the 1914-1918 period. And that 1914-1918 “first witness” period lays out the preview of the basis of the “second witnessing” period of the future. And that is to unfold, in the future, upon the same “master pattern” made know by Jehovah’s witnesses since 1914, and after, which “master pattern” contains the same global “world-war-to-world-government” cyclic formula that produced the League of Nations rival “8th King” designate in 1919.

And thus that “seven sealed” “scroll” “side one” of 1914-1918 is the primary “master pattern” and sovereign theme now known, that will also produce the same pattern for the final cycle 8th King full world government over this final cycle, upon the same master prophecy. Thus its final global witness of the “TWO witnesses”, of the future, is “side two” of that already “open” and understood “seven sealed” “scroll”.

Thus we can see an error like this below, is to promote a premature expectation of Christ’s arrival, and it is there to negate the salvation import of the seven trumpets salvation heralds and their purpose:

The dramatic unsealing of each of the seven seals of the sacred scroll of Revelation sets into motion irreversible events associated with Christ receiving his kingdom crown.

Reasonably, the sacred secret of God is not finished until all 144,000 members of the woman’s seed are sealed and the great crowd is gathered. Such developments, culminating with the fall of mystical Babylon the Great, would truly validate all prophecy and mark the finish of the sacred secret of God. With no further delay the nations will then brought to the situational battlefield of Armageddon.

http://jehovah-is-king.com/revelation/

The Revelation 10-11:1-7 reality of the final mission, is how the foregleamed final affirmation FINAL sealing of Revelation 7:1-8 takes place, not before the seven trumpets even “blow”, but in the sixth trumpet proceeding into the final mission commission of Revelation 10:5-11. After that future commission, and after it is carried out as the “second witness” of the “two witnesses” in Revelation 11:1-7, as that will merge with the completion of the enemy World Government system, then the mission is complete and then the final sealings are affirmed by that completion!

THE PURPOSE OF THOSE TRUMPETS IS TO WAKE UP ANOINTED CHRISTIANS, ALL CHRISTIANS AND AS MUCH OF THE WORLD AS POSSIBLE!

That is the WHOLE point of that “seven trumpets” prophetic structure of the final time sequence of the Adamic era! The seven trumpets gauge the spiritual milestones, while the seven plagues gauge the global milestone context into which IT ALL unfolds to 8th King world government. And its completion logic is so simple, the when that rival completes you can bet your life Christ will arrive for the Armageddon sovereign retort of all time! It is SO SIMPLE, all they can do is infiltrate Jehovah’s witnesses ministry, and place a DEAD front group, which the Governing Body is to say NOTHING about that simple climax convergence of universal sovereign conflict, because though this planet is the target, Christ war is also on the universal forces of Satan and the demons, the real “world rulers” “the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places”. (Eph6:12)

No need to cower to the standard “your a lunatic conspiracy theorist”, “your a nut Christian eh?” and the “you must be crazy” diversions from the enormity of this reality, no need to beat around the bush that this period will be epic, and will lead to where the prophecy plainly states it will lead! The world is the one being controlled to arrive at that day, in denial, and in the dark. And the ALARM TRUMPETS are what will wake up many (Hag2:7), BEFORE this all climaxes. And next, they will try to rub out Jehovah’s witnesses first in this process, because they are the ones best positioned to be reconnected to the conclusion summary, but are about the most asleep as far as modern globalization developments meaning, because the GB has put them to sleep with therapy and time wasting empty words, not to mention distraction, and diversion into lawless scandals.

THAT is there job! (Dan11:32a) In the meantime they got many many people thinking the entire Jehovah’s witnesses ministry is invalid and a farce! Because the GB look like fools, and Circus Ringleaders, and THAT is why they manifest such hypocritical lawlessness! THEY are the main JW distraction! And that affects Jehovah’s witnesses reputation before all the world’s eyes.

Thus those events King wrote about, are true, but they do not unfold with the seven seals, but with the seven trumpets. And thus what follows in the Robert King “seven seals” error, is just more doomsday hype, and more of that same premature end delusion we have been well warned about in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 to be on guard to not be misled by, by any means.

And obviously, as shown, the “seals” are not a sequence of real world events to manifest with those seals, but were revealed to Christ long ago, at the time of the Lamb’s total Revelation understanding, of the very things to manifest with the seven trumpets of salvation! And that is why the seventh seal, contains the “seven trumpets” of that global reality in total detail as to its temple judgment spiritual significance to prepare the heralds in accurate purified temple and anointed Christian ministerial form.

Next, though, after the sealing takes place the seventh and final seal is broken and the blowing of the first trumpet initiates the destruction of a substantial portion of the earth, sea and trees.

Well that is the Revelation 8:3-5 temple judgment of Jehovah’s witnesses, well before the total end, being made known in the first four trumpets, not after Christ has arrived, but when the trumpets can bring people to this awareness BEFORE Christ arrives! That is the whole point of the first six trumpets: Salvation awareness, BEFORE Christ arrives!

The opening of the last seal takes place after the sealing of the remaining 144,000 has been accomplished.

But that is not the truth.

Important: The final anointed sealing affirmation “seal” is accomplished by God, by the final “two witnesses” anointed Christians finishing the final warning of Revelation 10-11:1-7! Thinking that all wrapped up in the “sven seals”, is of course not going to aid anointed Christians who must carry out this commission after the temple judgment of Revelation 8:3-5, and its first four trumpets of temple judgment meaning being made known.

(Revelation 10:6-11) he swore: “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.” 8 And the voice that I heard out of heaven is speaking again with me and saying: “Go, take the opened scroll that is in the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the earth.” 9 And I went away to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll. And he said to me: “Take it and eat it up, and it will make your belly bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey.” 10 And I took the little scroll out of the hand of the angel and ate it up, and in my mouth it was sweet as honey; but when I had eaten it up, my belly was made bitter. 11 And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

And that divine commission, in the sixth trumpet, leads to the final “little scroll” warning of Revelation 11:1-7, also now deep sixth TRUMPET requirements:

(Revelation 11:1-7) And a reed like a rod was given me as he said: “Get up and measure the temple [sanctuary] of God and the altar and those worshiping in it. 2 But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.” 4 These are [symbolized by] the two olive trees and the two lampstands and are standing before the Lord of the earth. 5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire issues forth from their mouths and devours their enemies; and if anyone should want to harm them, in this manner he must be killed. 6 These have the authority to shut up heaven that no rain should fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have authority over the waters to turn them into blood and to strike the earth with every sort of plague as often as they wish. 7 And when they have finished their (1260 DAY) witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will make war with them and conquer them and kill them.

Which is this parallel, post temple judgment purification commission and objective:

(Zechariah 3:6-9) And the angel of Jehovah began to bear witness to Joshua, saying: 7 “This is what Jehovah of armies has said, ‘If it is in my ways that you will walk, and if it is my obligation that you will keep, then also it will be you that will judge my house and also keep my courtyards; and I shall certainly give you free access among these who are standing by.’ 8 “‘Hear, please, O Joshua the high priest, you and your companions who are sitting before you, for they are men [serving] as portents; for here I am bringing in my servant Sprout! 9 For, look! the stone that I have put before Joshua! Upon the one stone there are seven eyes. Here I am engraving its engraving,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies, ‘and I will take away the error of that land in one day.’

Which leads to Zechariah 4 “two witnesses” parallel of the Messianic Kingdom/Temple completion certainty:

(Zechariah 4:6-9) Accordingly he answered and said to me: “This is the word of Jehovah to Zerubbabel, saying, ‘“Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” Jehovah of armies has said. 7 Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel [you will become] a level land. And he will certainly bring forth the headstone. There will be shoutings to it: “How charming! How charming!”’” 8 And the word of Jehovah continued to occur to me, saying: 9 “The very hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house, and his own hands will finish [it].

Parallel:

(Revelation 11:4) These are [symbolized by] the two olive trees and the two lampstands and are standing before the Lord of the earth.

 

More Failures of Prematurity After Bethel Fails First

And that is why Robert King’s also well premature end delusion will also fail, guaranteed, but after Bethel’s even more premature forecast fails first.

It means Robert King will be setup for failure, by then being required to start to apply the “1260 days” too soon, as well, and with no salvation import as to what that final warning period really means.

Because Robert King focused on the “seven seals” as a sequence of real world events, and because he ignores Daniel 8:13-14 as the final temple judgment cycle (and its critical significant timing), his forecast is over advanced and emphasizes the wrong prophecy sequence in the process as it also ignores the true purpose and import of the first six trumpets to aid human salvation awareness globally.

The events will be real, that is not being disputed, but they will have another meaning aligned with the seven trumpets, not the seven seals—and thus REALITY OF THE SEVEN TRUMPETS will have a more drawn out timing, than a King-like “all done” forecast can accommodate. This type of error must also be removed from the temple claimant context, even if external, it is removed by its own stunning failure.

By assuming Christ must arrive with the sixth seal, before the “seven trumpets” even begin, every feature of the “seven trumpets” will be well “out of whack” with real world events as depicted in the “seven seals”, because in the Robert King fiction, they all unfold AFTER Christ has arrived, when in reality they must unfold into World Government and thus Christ’s arrival.

The very purpose of the trumpets is to warn of Christ’s arrival BEFORE he arrives, not as “hells bells” “it is doomsday” after he has arrived as Robert King is teaching!

(Matthew 24:23-25) “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned you.

That is the only thing Robert King, at this time, is manifesting accurately.

But in reality Christ arrives (Rev11:11-12 parallel) at the end of the SIXTH TRUMPET, after world government has “ascended” in Revelation 11:7 (Rev17:8-13), after that final 1260 days final warning has completed fully (Rev11:7-10), after the Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment timing has fully transpired as Revelation 8. Revelation 8 is the Daniel 8:13-14 (1150-2300 days) initializing parallel. After the temple is 100% judged and cleansed for the accuracy, THEN that eventual 1260 days final warning will begin, after the real recovery into purified “right condition” accuracy of Revelation 9-11:1-7. Revelation 9 is the “abyss opening” by Christ, of the Daniel 8:14 “morning” of recovery just beginning, in purified form, to lead to the final commission of Revelation 10, to lead to the deployment of that final warning as Revelation 11:1-7, and that leads to World Government before it “ascends” to cease that ministry, and that COMPLETION OF IT ALL, will trigger the Christ arrival.

ALL of that crucial development to emerge with the first six TRUMPETS, is bypassed and ignored in King’s tale, as based on this very “seven seals” error just described, which King has eaten hook, line and sinker, by such an obvious error of “seven seals” based assumption, as he tries to overturn all the basic patterns of the “first witnessing” of 1914-1918, and the MASTER PATTERNS it gives us, so as to avoid errors such as this, at the same time. Every article King writes, endeavors to undermine the very first witnessing cycle of 1914-1918 and fundamental global events, WW1-to-World-Governt-designate first cycle, that explain the final cycle already!

And that is why I must expose the nature of Robert King’s error, it is also a delusion we have been warned to be on guard for, and to expose when we see it. It is no more useful than Bethel’s error, they are in reality related, from the same source, one (Bethel’s) internal, the next trap (King’s) external, where Jehovah’s witnesses will naturally wander to look.

Additionally, I expose this, because Robert King is also writing a “letter as though from us”, as a claimant anointed Christian, “, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here” way way way TOO SOON! I do not accuse Robert King personally, I point out his main GLARING error that throws the rest of his forecast off, as it is over-advanced in expectations, then also promotes that self-same premature “doomsday” effect and its own premature “the end” delusion, and, in so doing, bypasses the true purpose of the seven trumpets. I do speculate if King is an accident, in error, or an intel secondary trap designed to further mislead wandering Jehovah’s witnesses, but I do not judge as to what the case actually is, as only God knows.

But in any case, King promotes a dangerous delusion, and I have explained why this is so.

Thus I do know King’s forecast will fail, after Bethel’s and it is but another error, for the reason just described as simply and best I could explain in the basic logic of what a “seal” is, a “secret” “sealed” at that time, not an itinerary of real world events. That final cycle “itinerary” is in the seven trumpets, and that is why they are in the “seventh” revealed secret, Christ unsealed, as God give him total Revelation understanding.

But I can only explain my full rationale as to why that conclusion is reached, others must make their own call, and I respect that.

Daniel 8:14 Timing and Its Events Will Wear Out Many Delusions

And there will be time to aid that assessment, that the prophecy guarantees, because God knows how to wear out these various premature forecasts and their obligatory delusions. And to filter them, is the purpose of Daniel 8:13-14’s significant timing and “purification” guarantee. External errors are also to be identified as part of the “clarification”. (Mal3:1-5) And that will all occur within Daniel 8:13-14’s base inception timing (3.19 years minimum; 6.38 years probable), which is significant for also this purpose. Another purpose of Daniel 8:13-14’s timing, is to affirm itself for the many doubters, who will doubt this is all going on in that coming “ten virgins” wake up call, and errors like King are the fake “seller’s oil” that cannot “enlighten” what is really going on, because it is based on an error itself, it is not much better than the Bethel delusion.

Bethel Premature End Delusion Fails First—It is a Smokescreen and a Global JW HOAX

The Bethel Premature End Delusion, to support a FAKE ARMAGEDDON and all its blinding “quickly lose reason” over-excited hype, just as 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 indicates, is their MAIN JW SMOKESCREEN. It is why Jehovah’s witnesses have lost all reason, are spiritually drunk and passed out, and are also expecting that “event” way too soon—and their delusion will fail first, because all the Enemy Bethell is using it for is to crash the JW organization, by global corporate attack, and Jehovah’s witnesses will think that Daniel 11:41 context event, is “it is Daniel 11:44 attack brothers!”. It is all a JW HOAX being set up, so they aid the JW org crash, and go where they are told for King North GB Pied Pipers.

And so that you know the INTENT is not “Robert King bashing”, but so YOU KNOW the rationale of why the premature end delusion is so dangerous, why God has clearly warned of it in explicit detail, and it will come, just as Paul foretold as inspired by God Almighty, and how it operates in King’s “seven seals” assumption based main error. Every other Robert King error is based on this first base error in the “seven seals” guesswork, nothing after that base error is going to “register” properly with the seven trumpet real world events, or their seven plagues global approximately parallel context.

And I PLAINLY STATE, every last forecast out there, including this forecast, WILL BE PUT TO THE TEST. Just indicating the basic error that we can demonstrate which King is making right now, so we need not be misled by his premature forecast, which it will inspire, later. It just took some time to go through his rationale, to find its basis, and THAT just prematurity and the assumption it is based on, just described is his basis.

Time and events will prove reality, and that is why God’s substantial temple judgment timing, is of enough Daniel 8:14 duration, to allow all of these premature forecasts to fail in that significant timing, whether it be 1150 days or 2300 days. Anything premature regarding the 1260 days starting too soon, will fail, before the final 1260 days can start!

Just letting you know why Daniel 8:13-14 will be the touchstone, litmus test prophecy, of our times, to manifest first, for reasons such as those just described, to filter out error for anointed Christians to KNOW what is what!

And NO ONE can fake that reality, when it arrives.

And God knows we may very well doubt all this, so Daniel 8:13-14:

1. Is TIMED for future proof.

2. Results in events and phasing that will bring the ministry into accuracy and approval;

3. Is obviously required for “right condition” temple purification, from what is obviously now in the fully “wrong condition”;

Many can see that “wrong condition”, but many do not know exactly why it is present. The temple judgment will create the ministerial context to plainly state, with great proof, how the modern Bethel UN allied apostasy and hypocrisy Circus fits into this modern anointed Christian mess.

There are many doubting or not sure of Daniel 8:13-14 at this time, who WILL BELIEVE IT after the first 1150 days have run, and will fully believe it after the whole Daniel 8:14 prophecy is complete! Thus doubting at this time, is par for the course, and further reason WHY we pay attention to Daniel 8:13-14 in the future. If we think lawless Bethel is just going to ride off into the sunset scot-free, we got another thing coming.

Au contraire, apostate Bethell are going to be made an example of, at GLOBAL SCALE OF NOTORIETY, which only Jerusalem’s 70 CE destruction will compete with in enormity, severity and meaning as a judgment! (1Pet4:17; Matt24:15)

BE READY!

Further Proof: World War 1

Contrary to King’s assertion that WW1 is as inconsequential is “the 1914 delusion”, 1914 to 1918 did globally demonstrate a “four square”:

1. Manifestation of Christ in God’s Kingdom first, to end in Christ’s Kingship in the Messianic Kingdom only born in 1914;

2. Manifestation of a global war, “the Great War”, triply worse in military deployment, multinational conflict, pandemics and death many times worse, overall, and at global scale than any war that ever developed before it.

While the Civil War killed more Americans, as they killed each other in Union North versus Confederate South two-fold manner, WW1 was a microcosm of true world war, only called WW1, after WW2 replicated the same global war theme. By that cyclic nature of more world wars, we know it set the “global war” trend, since 1914, of the rest of the century+ to follow, as each world war, including the Pentagon considered “Cold War” WW3, ALWAYS concluded in a United Nations related, “we need world peace” world government pitch, ALL THREE TIMES.

Thus WW1 is the Master Pattern of the world-war-to-world-government global-formula, related to what we just covered as that “sword stroke” PRINCIPLE, is then “healed” in PRINCIPLE, to highlight the then following United Nations “solution”. It is a formula, and WW1 was the first use of such a global “problem”-“reaction”-“solution” formula, which runs with the world war cycle, to then present the wildbeast “image” as four steps to world government, three of which have run as prophecy, the third of which (1990) is now being concealed by Bethel for what it really is!

In addition, in 1914, the 7th King manifested as the premiere nation-state system, along with the globalist 8th King designate system, as they co-develop to the required fall of the 7th King, to allow the 8th King to ascend from this final global formula cycle, into FULL World Government in the future!

ALL OF THAT UNDENIABLY BEGAN WITH THE FIRST WORLD WAR CYCLE!

And that is why that “first witnessing” of 1914-1918, is the exact formulaic master pattern of the final cycle! It will use the final “sword stroke” cycle, to run as the final global “world-war-to-world-government” formula, but this time to present World Government.

And as per the “TWO witnesses” as now “TWO witnessings”, there must be a 1260 day final warning to emerge BEFORE that world government ascends in final 8th King form. (Rev11:1-7) And that is why the “seven trumpets” are of such great final global cycle sequence importance!

And that is also why real delusions, which conceal that true “seven trumpets” purpose and meaning, are to be rejected, they bypass the final warning purpose and requirement which results in the final anointings, and the final affirmation sealings, BY CARRYING OUT THAT FINAL MISSION TO COMPLETION!

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

Thinking it is “all done” even before the seven trumpets begin, and not understanding the “seven trumpets” purpose, will not help carry out that mission, again, successfully. It will increase chances of failure!

This is no game, Satan is out in hopes that anointed Christians will miss the meaning of the seven trumpets, and will thus abort the mission, before world government completes, they wouldn’t even know what it all means if Satan had his way. Thus if that were the case, world government completion, with no prelude warning would mean ministerial failure, it would mean final anointings could not be completed as well, final affirmation sealing would be impossible by defauls, and it would abort the Messianic Kingdom  completion!

But that is not going to happen! Some will fail (Matt25:1-13), but some will be affirmed for further Kingdom service, by completing this final mission to the full!

That true mission of Satan is not be reminded here as if he could be successful—it is to emphasize that he will try none the less, and that is what the stalling, derailing, progressive to terminal apostasy and attempted premature destruction of the anointed Christian ministry, as now utilizing Jehovah’s witnesses human means and resources, is ALL ABOUT.

Doubt the initial sovereign warning of 1914-1918, to be fully ascertained after the fact? Well THAT is exactly what they want all mankind to doubt, all Christians, and by this disappointing failure, they—THE DEMONS—want all Jehovah’s witnesses and the anointed among them, to also devolve into: lack of faith, to no faith at all! THAT is what Bethel lawlessness, hypocrisy, and unaddressed and maintained error is doing! The Governing Body farce is there to make a JOKE of the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry.

So, in hindsight, there is not one JW “problem”, that does not have a root in “board-to-GB” shenanigans, and that is based on either:

1. A diversion from a simple answer, to total discrediting invalidity or another error.

2. A cloaked fraud’s words. (The GB)

3. A myth Jehovah’s witnesses have accepted. (such as the GB concept)

And the purpose is to undermine the original warning, but that went out anyway. Now in time, the true nature of the Bethel devolution into UN NGO, apostasy and leadership set to ruin the ministry in the progressive post 1944 Governing Body development, is now coming to head for a “pop” by God. And that will get ALL the obstacles OUT of the way (Zech3:1-5; Dan8:14), to let the final comprehensive summary take place (Rev10:5-7), which converges, on the enemy layer level of this parallel to WORLD GOVERNMENT.

On the Messianic Kingdom coming completion level, it equates to Christ’s arrival to save many before he lays the 8th King low, AFTER they are completed.

8th King World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Because Bethel will not divulge that SIMPLE SUMMARY, they are removed first in the process. Bethel is removed first, because Christendom goes down under world government (Rev17:15-18), their global scale is too enormous to be concentrated on at this time. Bethel is the perfect place for a prophetic proportions judgment to occur, and that first and soon. (Dan8:13-14; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5; Rev8:3-5)

Bethel Versus RC-Caesar—Wonder Who Will Win?

Bethel Versus Caesar – Wonder Who Will Win?

How Bethel is Setting Up Their Own Near Future Corporate “Siege” for Their Very Own “Self Fulfilling Prophecy” of a Fake JW Armageddon Exit Smokescreen (2Thess2:1-2)

Bethel has recently manifested a “self fulfilling prophecy” in greater detail and advancement.

And Bethel’s staunch resistance to the Royal Commission, is actually an indication of how Bethel will help ” fulfill” the initial context of their own “self fulfilling prophecy”— THEY will help motivate the JW Organization legal “invasion” “siege” development of the near future, as aided and amplified by their rebellious position and response to “superior authority” requests for changes in the Bethel policy system and child abuse policies.

Bethel now indicates to Jehovah’s witnesses, with minimal fanfare, that Bethel is to be invaded and destroyed “soon, very soon”. This is a new teaching in its now advanced expectation to first priority to “start the great tribulation”. But most JWs did not catch the true import of these latest “JW Organization attack” details, and its “Obey” Schedule, also newly introduced from Bethel, because Bethel did this in a rather latent manner.

Thus, please keep in mind a very significant development in recent WTBTS “theology” summarized in the Watchtower July 15, 2015 “Your Deliverance is Getting Near” article of Bethel’s premature end delusion hyping , with some prelude preparations (Watchtower 5/1/1999; Watchtower 4/15/2012 “Jehovah Knows How to Deliver His People”), NOW implies Bethel is to be attacked first, and “soon, very soon”—and it even schedules a “brief respite” for JWs to expect, to obey the org as if their very live depended on it. (Watchtower 11/15/2013)

1. Bethel Has “New Light” That They are to be Invaded Soon:

1 Imagine that you are a Christian living in Jerusalem in 66 C.E. A lot has been happening around you. First, the Roman procurator Florus seized 17 talents from the sacred temple treasury. Immediately, Jews rose in revolt, slaughtering the Roman forces in Jerusalem and asserting their independence from Rome. But Rome reacted swiftly. Within three months, 30,000 troops appeared on the scene, led by the Roman governor of Syria, Cestius Gallus. The soldiers quickly entered the suburbs of Jerusalem, and the Jewish rebels retreated to the safety of the temple fortress. Next, the Roman soldiers started to undermine the outer wall of the temple area! Panic is spreading throughout the city. How do you feel as you see all of this happening?

2a No doubt you remember the words of Jesus as recorded by the Gospel writer Luke: “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near.” (Luke 21:20) However, you may wonder, ‘How can I obey the instructions given along with that warning?’ Jesus also said: “Then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains, let those in the midst of her leave, and let those in the countryside not enter into her.” (Luke 21:21) How can you possibly leave Jerusalem with so many troops surrounding it?

3 Soon, very soon, each of us will face a similar situation. Jesus not only warned Christians about the destruction of Jerusalem but also used those first-century events to parallel what will occur when the “great tribulation” suddenly breaks out. (Matthew 24:3, 21, 29)

—(Watchtower July 15, 2015 “Your Deliverance is Getting Near”, par.1-3)

The JW Future “The End” Itinerary Schedule of When to Obey and Be Captured

Now amidst the “Babylon the Great’s UN attack starts the Great Tribulation” hype, that JW minds have been sautéed in for decades, this latest updated “prophecy” and its “obey” directive from Bethel goes unnoticed by most JWs, as far as its unique new import:

2. SOON, EXPECT BETHEL TO UNDERGO INVASION FIRST!

3. Obey For Salvation All JWs!

Now if we recall the recent Watchtower of November 2013…:

“Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered:… AT THAT TIME, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.

—(WT 11/15/2013, pg. 20, par. 17, #3)

…we can gather that obviously Bethel is planning to use the JW org, to help “deliver” JWs to “salvation”.

This whole “program” released since 2013, to now meet the 2015 updated hype, is a systematically introduced program of the JW capture directives and setups. (And as you know there is the “Walk by Faith” 2012 video, also priming this hype in advance. And Bethel knows all this, because the only “prophecy” they know, is the one the enemy system global power will help them fulfill, to attempt to get rid of JWs early. THAT is why Bethel states all this with such “SOON, very soon” certainty, their Globalist Masters will provide the “self fulfilling prophecy” fulfillment and its global context for them, it is an “inside job”. (Dan11:32a)

Well the “your deliverance is getting near” is not exactly affirmable as to what or where JWs are to be attempted to be “delivered” to. We know why, for it is “the end of the world brothers”! What we do know is the “at that time”, is “soon, very soon”. And…

“Figuratively speaking, however, God’s people will flee to the refuge that Jehovah provides.””

—(WT 07/15/2015, pg. 16, par. 7-8)

So, the gist is Bethel has a new prophecy update, with a schedule of new more specific expectations and JW requirements to obey, all to miraculously manifest as Bethel Seers now predict for JWs.

After DECADES of God forsaken GB darkness, they now miraculously KNOW, like the sun rising tomorrow, it is “soon, very soon” WE are going down brothers! Yep. Just in brothers! We know the assured future schedule in detail, ALL OF A SUDDEN—OUT OF THE BLUE, we have just NOW received the exactly fully detailed itinerary of our own corporate siege and destruction, and that SOON, VERY SOON!

And JWs don’t smell a rat in that “new miracle”, that they won’t quite call “new light”, because they don’t want to highlight the importance of this update too much, but rather, just enough? And all of it nicely dovetailing with a spitting in the RC face from corporate Bethel? And none of its is connected to all this post 2012 hype fest and GB worship fest also miraculously coming to “new light” from this “FAITHFUL SLAVE” blasphemy?

Thus this near future Bethel “siege” will, in time, relate to Bethel’s rebellious response to the RC—it reveals Bethel plans to fight any changes, in their general attitude. Their general stance to continue to aid and abet child abuse, to put words into the RC judges mouth, to deny all allegations, and to maintain their illegal override of civil and criminal law, to continue to hinder secular criminal investigation agencies looking into criminal activity among the Jehovah’s witnesses community, has now been demonstrated and maintained by Bethel.

So we now know what the future strategy now entails as far as Bethel’s Head Butting position and reaction to requests for changes from civil inspectors: Deny, Delay and Resist. Bethel’s GB is up on the JW “Jerusalem” wall, spitting at and taunting the Romans down below, because that is what Rebel Bethel is really doing here.

Bethel’s Self Fulfilling Prophecy Hoax, 1-2-3, For JW Lemmings

1. Bethel is to be invaded soon, as fully updated in July 2015.

2. Now there is to an “interval” in the “siege” when JWs will be expected to obey the GB and JW Org immediately, as if their very lives depended on it. (In spite of the fact, Bethel cannot even take care of their own Bethelites properly.)

WT 7/15/15 paragraph 2b

2b “Then, an amazing thing happens. Right before your very eyes, the Roman troops start to retreat! As foretold, their attack is being “cut short.” (Matthew 24:22) Now you have the opportunity to obey Jesus’ instructions. Immediately you flee to the mountains across the Jordan River, along with all the other faithful Christians in the city and its surroundings.”

7 What will happen after the destruction of false religious organizations? It will be a time to reveal what is really in our heart. The majority of mankind will seek refuge in human organizations that are likened to “the rocks of the mountains.” (Revelation 6:15-17) Figuratively speaking, however, God’s people will flee to the refuge that Jehovah provides. In the first century, the interval was not a time for a mass conversion of Jews to Christianity. It was a time for action and obedience on the part of those who were already Christians. Similarly, we cannot expect that the future interruption in the great tribulation will result in an influx of new believers. Rather, it will be an opportunity for all true believers to prove their love for Jehovah and give their support to Christ’s brothers.—Matthew 25:34-40.

8 Although we do not fully understand all that will happen during that time of test, we can expect that it will involve some measure of sacrifice. In the first century, Christians had to leave behind their possessions and endure hardships in order to survive. (Mark 13:15-18) To remain faithful, will we be willing to experience material loss? Will we be ready to do whatever is required of us to prove our loyalty to Jehovah? Just think! At that time, we will be the only ones following the example of the ancient prophet Daniel by continuing to worship our God no matter what.—Daniel 6:10, 11.

—(Watchtower July 15, 2015, par. 2,7,8)

“”7. Jesus also foretold: “Those days will be cut short.” In the initial fulfillment, this happened in 66 C.E. when the Roman army “cut short” its attack. Then, anointed Christians in Jerusalem and Judea fled, allowing for their ‘flesh, or life, to be saved.’ (Read Matthew 24:22; Mal. 3:17) So, what can we expect will happen during the coming great tribulation? Jehovah will “cut short” the attack of the United Nations on false religion, not allowing true religion to be destroyed with the false. This will ensure that God’s people will be saved.””

“”8 What happens after the initial part of the great tribulation has passed? Jesus’ words indicate that there will be a period of time that will last until the start of Armageddon. What events will occur during that interval? The answer is recorded at Ezekiel 38:14-16 and Matthew 24:29-31. After that, we will witness Armageddon, the climax of the great tribulation, which parallels Jerusalem’s destruction in 70 C.E.””

—(Watchtower 7/15/2013 Study Edition; “Tell Us, When Will These Things Be” article; pgs. 5, par.7-8)

3. Bethel has been crazily hyping the “Obey the JW Org and Be Saved” “as insane as it may sound” since November 2013, and now we know when in specific, in their future “self fulfilling prophecy”, and in its “brief respite” in the “siege”, then JWs should place their lives and the lives of their families into the hands of these Bethel criminal apostates of the LAWLESS SOLD OUT ILLEGAL Governing Body.

Now it is true Bethel has taught an eventual attack would come on the Christian ministry. But what Bethel has done is shifted that attack forward in expectation to now coincide with the initiation of the “great tribulation”, and that right “soon, very soon”. BUT, they didn’t exactly tell JWs how unique this shift is, did they?

That Bethel is attacked first and next is a NEW and SLYLY introduced “update”.
Royal Commission Response: REBELLION AT BETHELL

So now that Bethell has the “siege” coming “soon, very soon” in JWs collective mind, how does all that, tie into to Bethel’s recent RC responses in more denial and subterfuge?

Bethel has just set up their own invasion, they are helping fulfill their “self fulfilling prophecy”.

And what we actually have, is a FAKE “THE END” expectation, that Bethel can now use to cloak their PROSECUTIONS as if “its is all persecution brothers! IT MUST BE THE END OF IT ALL!!—head for the hills! We will tell you where to go! OBEY! OBEY! OBEY!” THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3) However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. 3 Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first…

Well Bethel is the apostasy, and this is their lying exit strategy: Brothers, it is the end of it all, look no further! Goodbye! Head for the hills we tell you to go to!

And so goes the Pied Piper Flute strains of salvation by the Korah Governing Body playing the Moses character, to lead JWs to crazy situations, and to completely distract them from what is a corporate takeover, which God allows on APOSTATE Bethel, the thing to FLEE NOW, not to wait for this “self fulfilling prophecy” “siege” that IS indeed on the way “soon, very soon”. Bethel KNOWS that, because they are an impostor run racket, who has laced and wired the Bethel system with many more crimes to be revealed in this process!

Bethel Butts Heads with the Superior Authority

We now know Bethel is taking the “rebellion” attitude of self-righteous justification, and that means the “superior authorities” will now have to escalate the strategy to motivate Bethel admissions, demonstrate guilt in fuller manner and secure redress and recompense. The RC development and its hours of video and documented evidentiary demonstrations of Bethel guilt and bad policy, is no “Dateline” episode. Now the Caesar connected “Inquiry into Bethel” has stepped up toward the arena of national, state and local legal attention now focusing on lawless Bethel, from the “superior authorities” in regard to Bethel’s rival competitive “private legal system”.

The freakin’ Queen of England and Parliament get this “inquiring” update from this preparatory investigation; they are the ultimate authorizers of such a “Royal Commissions” device, and those things can lead next, to national and even international courts which are also maturing to reality with the latest UN developments.

This is NOT Katie Couric and Stone Phillips that Bethel is now dealing with! They are in a progressive war with Caesar now! Thus the “siege” they now have JWs expecting, that they themselves are “fulfilling” in their own deceptive “prophecy”. THAT is where this will lead, in this handy Bethel muttered “self fulfilling prophecy” of their own global-corporate siege and destruction, now expected by JWs as if a divine assured prophecy of “the end”!

Though it may be beginning with the child abuse policies, those policies are dictated by the GB Judges and Politicians of the JW private legal system, and some of those policies are bypassing and overriding Caesar based legal systems, to promote criminal activity, as if Bethel is a superior independent sovereign court; except, they are not.

And contrary to the warning of God, by Peter, Bethel is now caught up in a global scale scandal of real “evil doing” and criminal resistance prior to this coming judgment cycle, as they openly aid and abet child abuse, drag rank and file and congregational JWs into the fray, and staunchly defend their Caesar overriding private corporate “legal system”, at now globally public levels of notoriety:

(1 Peter 4:15-17) However, let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a busybody in other people’s matters. 16 But if [he suffers] as a Christian, let him not feel shame, but let him keep on glorifying God in this name. 17 For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God.

Now some of us looking at the deeper implications of a war of Caesar on Bethel, exacerbated by Bethel’s staunch defense of their lawless policymakers and policy, as actually foregleamed in the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Abuse, have noted this has just escalated to new level some speculated is one of the potential tacks proud Bethel just might take; the strategy of resistance, denial and continued subterfuge with zero admission of guilt.

Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Abuse
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Commission_into_Institutional_Responses_to_Child_Sexual_Abuse

The Senior Counsel Assisting the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse released its findings to the court and public ([1] 132 pages). The Counsel for the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia & Others issued its responses to those Royal Commission findings ([2] 141 pages). Once one takes a read through those responses, one understands Bethel has chosen the route of war with Caesar.

Bethel/WTBTS has disagreed with the majority of the findings of Royal Commission, and has rephrased many of the RC findings with what Bethel says should be the text, as if Bethel was writing the assessment. Thus, Bethel rephrasing, is comical in hubris and astounding in continued staunch head-butting denial, reworded so as to meet the Bethel subterfuge of vain mythologies.

Bethel just flipped the bird to the RC.

In spite of almost two weeks of the RC presentation of its Case Study 29 [3], in excruciating video documented detail and full preparatory demonstration of WTBTS alleged guilt and glaring child abuse policy shortcomings, Bethel ACTS AS IF THE ENTIRE HEARING NEVER TOOK PLACE, AS IF NOTHING IS WRONG, as if nothing should be changed. They give the exact same excuses and waffling dodges like they were on the stand at the RC inquiry, again.

I mean it is so shocking, it is surreal, uneasily laughable, and one can actually feel the heat of Justice Peter McClellan’s and Angus Stewart’s face reddening with disgust and anger at this final act of Bethel in your face hubris and denial and “screw you RC guys” REBELLION.

And that means Bethel has chosen to BUTT HEADS with Caesar! LOOK OUT!

Bethell Rackets and Laundering Charges Coming?

You can bet, pedophilia is not all they will “discover” as Bethel now opens up their top level RACKETS to intense legal scrutiny at international scale.

Imo, child abuse “shortcomings”, will just be the “tip of the iceberg” when they start to delve into what Bethel has done with the conservative 10 BILLION DOLLARS that has passed through their grubby GB mits since 1980, and the additional 20 BILLION in investment and real-estate valuation projects which JW slave labor has aided.

Did you know Bethel has, conservatively estimated, potentially built a THIRTY BILLION DOLLAR RELIGIOUS RACKET?

And that much of that has now been transferred out of real-estate holdings and stock liquidations and re-aligned in derivatives rackets (and who knows what and where else) in just a few years, BILLIONS AND BILLIONS WORTH?

Did you know Bethel is a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR TRANSNATIONAL RACKET?

Yet they can’t take care of a Bethel waiter, but they want YOU to trust THEM with your life and family?????

Probably not. Most JWs and the general public do not know, how much loot Bethel has generated, skimmed, channeled and STOLEN in this mad tenure of the Criminal Governing Body since 1976. Well you can bet, the “pedophile” prompted inside look at the Bethel “legal system” and all its corrupt Bethel Politicians and Judges, will reveal some REAL “new light” on these nefarious matters for JWs, and the world.

(1 Timothy 5:24-25) The sins of some men are publicly manifest, leading directly to judgment, but as for other men [their sins] also become manifest later. 25 In the same way also the fine works are publicly manifest and those that are otherwise cannot be kept hid.

And all this will be coinciding, NOT with the “end of the world”, no sir, it will be simultaneous with the Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses, the US and EU economic meltdown and a final world war, as the context of THE END of the BETHELL APOSTASY! Do NOT be fooled! FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOW!!!!!!!!!!

(Matthew 24:15-16) “Therefore, when you catch sight of the (UN NGO; Dan11:31) disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet (modern Dan11:31 “disgusting thing that causes desolation” as parallel of Dan8:13 “transgression causing desolation”), standing in a holy place (in the JW “constant feature” ministry as UN NGO), (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains. (Because the JW Bethel desolation judgment for that UN NGO “transgression causing desolation” is near; 1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14; Rev8:3-5);

The GB itself is a “disgusting thing” Pig Pen Cabal, that should NOT be standing in a claimant anointed Christian ministry, in case the true severity of the UN NGO covenant is not registering with some.

If you doubt now, pay attention to Daniel 8:13-14 and its timing. Bethel has now set up the context of their own “trampling”, and God will permit and require it, because the reality is Bethel is apostate and criminal, and will be called to global account, and it will become known by the whole world, because it is GOD who is judging this apostasy, by means of the typical “gentile” instruments he always has employed.

There is an attack coming on the JW Org, but it is not going to be the prophecies Bethel has hi-jacked to provide their own multi-billion dollar exit strategy smokescreen to dupe, derail and capture as many JWs as they can, as the world tips into more terror attacks, of far larger proportions and eventual world war. Thus when Bethel does really go down, it will be in an increasingly distracting global context. And in that “siege” “interval” they now predict, to be used to herd JWs helter skelter to FEMA and who knows what, let us hope it coincides with Jehovah’s foretold disruption of the rats in the temple, by Christ DIRECT temple cleaning phase. (Isa66:6; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5; Rev8:3-5; Dan8:13-14 (morning phase); Dan11:41)

[1]
Royal Commission Findings
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=359d7249-0d4f-4c51-9265-1c40aa6b3b21&type=transcriptpdf&filename=Submissions-of-Senior-Counsel-Assisting-the-Royal-Commission&fileextension=pdf

[2]
Bethel’s “Screw You RC Guys” Ridiculous Response
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=f5500c14-49fb-4a90-9507-a383e2d8090d&type=transcriptpdf&filename=Submissions-on-behalf-of-Watchtower-Bible-and-Tract-Society-of-Australia-&-Others&fileextension=pdf

[3]

The Royal Commission held a public hearing in Sydney from Monday 27 July 2015 to Friday 14 August 2015, which public hearing inquired into the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia Ltd.

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney

What it means is Bethel has taken a tack of complete resistance to any changes the RC kindly recommended they should consider.

This will lead to more escalation on the “Bethell Problem”, expected that setup “siege” “soon, very soon”, but it will not be what criminal and apostate Bethel claims.

This article has explored the other possible motivations behind the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse development, as many commentaries cover the basics of the hypocrisy and dilemma.

Apostate Bethel Reality of the Final Cycle

The reality is apostate Bethel as marked by their UN NGO “Roman” ensign, is the entity, as seen in the Worldwide Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses, to FLEE FROM RIGHT NOW. Apostate Bethel and its real King North 8th King alliances and “insiders” has no blessing from God and is about to undergo the Daniel 8:13-14 Timed Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and it is in the Daniel 11:41-43 final global cycle inception events of the 7th King/King South nation-state system downfall.

But they are now attempting to tell JWs it will be Daniel 11:44 and the “attack of Gog of Magog”, all over advanced and premature, as the “invasion” events of Daniel 11:41, even now “entered” by “King North” in latent manner, will go into its JW Organization downfall “trampling” of Daniel 8:13, for many sins and apostasies, from the very “powers that be” in the UN System which Bethel now sleeps with a rides as the latest “Scarlet Wildbeast” “harlot” that instead, must be judged and revealed well before the real end.

Instead, the world and JWs will find itself in the final global cycle, and the full 8th King rise into World Government, which reality is what Bethel is now tasked with, to cover up, from JWs and their global ministerial audience. THAT is what UN NGO Bethel has been up to, since 1990, in fully covert to overt publicly known manner since 2001.

JUDGMENT is what is now to come on apostate Bethel, and this is their exit strategy to drag JWs down with themselves, just like the Rebels of Jerusalem’s day. DISASTER and CATASTROPHE are what the JW organization will promote in the near future, as this deceptive “self fulfilling prophecy” “fulfills” as well expected by duped JWs.

Topix Discussion: Bethel’s RC Response=War on Caesar
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T2I65JGQI34O0GP2J

US/EU 7th King/King South Required Downfall

US/EU 7th King/King South Required Downfall

Structured Global Sovereign Progression in Seven Bible Chapters and Its Christendom and Bethel Cover Up

We Are Here:

To get where we are today in world power progress understanding, we just track history and modern global developmental news in relation to well known prophetic patterns maturing, aided by the far more voluminous post Roman era developmental information. The structural incremental gauging of Daniel and Revelation provide a world power developmental framework based on the post Noachian record of Genesis 10-11, but tracks it through all world time since then, to today, to the final phase coming up. Thus everything discussed in the spiritual seven trumpet and seven plagues framework will merge with the 8th King finale progression to the end of the road.

Both Daniel and Revelation outline the entire world power progression from the national powers of (1) Egypt, (2) Assyria, (3) Babylon, (4) Medo-Persia, (5) Greece, (6) Rome, (7) Anglo-America, as national powers to eventually unifying into a collective unification (United Nations) of ALL the world powers as nations in the 8th King globalist unification final world power; (8); (This is the 8th King entity the Messianic Kingdom will war with as a collective whole symbol and its global reality representing ALL world powers combined). (Dan2:31-46; Dan8:23-25; Dan11:40-45; Rev16:13-16; Rev17:8-18)

We can note the first four world powers are of Eastern origin, as the Greece (5th world power) split is the beginning of the following four Western based powers, as the finale globalization is actually of all world powers as global unified nations in totality, to define King 8 as one global whole—the last in the trajectory and the one slated for the shortest reign of them all; just “one hour” of symbolic final folly as it rolls into the Lake of Fire at Armageddon, its eternal destiny. (Rev16:13-20; Rev17:8-13; Rev19:19-21)

To arrive to today’s true global meaning, the updates from 1914 in actively fulfilling prophecy, regarding the marked dual development of the ascendant post Roman “7th King” national alliance of Anglo-America, is the nearly final portion of the prophecy to track. All that needs to complete is the 8th King world government.

That 8th King designate entity has been co-developing in its own progress since 1914-1919 in “image of the wildbeast” development which development has paralleled that of the 7th King (Rev13:11-15; Dan12:11; Rev17:8-11), as both the 7th King and that 8th King designate “image” emerged in the same 1914-1919 period of marked significance. What we now know is the United Nations focused international development tier, is also implied in quadruple numbering as an overall UN 1-2-3-4 incremental progress to its coming fourth cycle completion and ominous terminus: Armageddon.

Now, if, let’s say, 99% of the prophecy has already turned to history, of course the final “1%” will also transform into live history in the irreversible future, as we are in that epic final period. Now this final cycle is also well gauged in all the primary needed features and details to ascertain where we are in pre-to-full 7th King required downfall development, to allow that grand finale 8th King final ascension into world government—and thus, finally, the long awaited trigger event of the Christ arrival. (Dan12:11; Rev11:7-13; Matt24:29-31)

Therefore the “seven trumpet” future “itinerary” 1-7 sequential framework, and its three final timed periods of the sovereign Kingdom and temple progression noted earlier (Dan8:14; Dan12:7; Dan12:11), adds additional unique detailing to those structural seven chapters of prophecy-turned-to-history of Daniel and Revelation which track the global developments reliably to today. (Dan2,7,811-12; Rev13,17)

It is not that the prophecy is incomprehensible in such a basic 1-8 progression, now undeniably at king 7, requiring king 8 to complete the trajectory. Rather, it is by sheer spiritually “harlotous” ignorance that Christendom’s coma, and Bethel lobotomy have devolved to the sad state of spiritual catatonia that they both now share on their figurative gurneys and “sick beds”. (Rev2:20-23)

In basic terms the “old world order” national system is to be pawned by the “new world order” world government system, also easy to ascertain from prophecy and globalism research, it is not rocket science to see how the two converge for Armageddon’s final maturation of world government. Thus, in also easy to answer, but for some “ugly truth” hard-to-accept form, Christendom and Bethel are BOTH working for the world government concealment operation.

In reality, Daniel lays the sovereign historic yet prophetic foundation that Revelation builds upon and finalizes, as both forecast the grand finale, for both God’s Kingdom objective completion and the defiant progression of the first seven world powers to final future 8th King world government completion, concurrently, in this final cycle parallel phase.

Thus the final cycle is the epic period of the completion of both the rival system “8th King” “King North” purpose and God’s purpose of Messianic Kingdom completion as they mature to the final long foretold confrontation to eternally settle the global sovereign issue as to who will actually rule planet earth, upon the “trampled” rubble of the loser.

Of course, at Armageddon, the domitable poor 8th King is who is “rubbleized” in Daniel 2:31-46 and in its final parallels in prophecy covered earlier, but as the typical blind, forlorn, and power addicted world rulers—they do not seem to get the first message, actually just diametrically defiant to it.

So God gives them a final warning, the “second witness” of the “two witnesses”, prior to their divine demolition under the “White War Horse” and “boot heel” of the real “King of kings”—the IMMORTAL Jesus Christ. (Ps2)

Daniel 2, 7, 8, 11-12, structures the sovereign progression of human world power in historically traceable symbolic world power symbols and themes, benchmarking times and national historically ascertainable named names in Babylon, Persia and Greece. Now the well known progression of (1) Egypt, (2) and Assyria, to (3) Babylon (Dan2,4), (4) Medo-Persia (Dan8:20-21; Dan11:2), and (5) Greece (Dan8:20-21; Dan11:1-4), to the subsequent (6) Rome, (7) Anglo-America (in nation-state decline), and (8) the 8th King globalist unification world power development (in progress), which developed from that historic basis, can be “registered” into Daniel’s implied eight “Kings” 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8.

But by Revelation’s explicit 1-8 structure of those same 8 Kings, it is symphonic in final progress and its global-sovereign meaning. Very simple math, backed by available histories, amplified by modern research and globalization news—all working for, and headed to, the so-called “New World Order” 8th King finale.

All they have to do is finally gitterdone for Armagitterdone.

Revelation 13 and 17 continues from the Christian era, and its contextual Roman world power period. (Rev17:10) The base named world powers of Daniel, thus, are present as a historic benchmark in Babylon, Medo-Persia and Greece (Dan2; Dan8:20-21; Dan11:1-4), also present in the seven headed wildbeast progressions of those Revelation chapters 3rd, 4th, and 5th “Kings”/”heads”, to the globalist full bodied 8th King, total “scarlet wildbeast”, as a complete globalization based unification of all national powers into an apex world sovereign world government and its representative “United Nations” “image” 8th King world power nucleus, as one final totality. (Rev17:8-18; Dan12:11)

Over time, all that Bible students and researchers have had to do was match a simple global power history, and then keep up with modern events, through post Rome activity to that prophecy’s continuation of the main 1-8 structure, to nail the “7th King” Anglo to Anglo-American rivals of God’s Kingdom to the well founded 1-6 base structure at Rome, which Christendom conveniently fully ignores and truncates for centuries now, at the Rome “cut off” of all prophetic reality.

Thus JWs are truly unique in bridging the post Roman “gap” to 1914 marked “7th King” Anglo-American progress with the “8th King” designate “League of Nations” world government nucleus development, which will complete and arrive at Armageddon. The BTG enveloped Christendom “harlot” has not, and will not, expose that “7th” “King”, because that rival power system is her true global masters and handlers. Yet tracking the final two kings in prophecy, 7-8, from the history that led to Rome as kings 1-6, is not really rocket science, nor requiring Sherlock Holmes, or the prophet Daniel to complete for us. It’s just 1-2-3-4-5-6 and then 7-8, really a “no brainer” that a kindergartner could “add up”.

Thus Christendom is in a blatant cover up of easy-to-see prophecy, “miraculously” stalled at Rome—yet that mother apostasy is also a fulfilled prophecy made known by JWs. And like that sold out corporate Christendom Madame “harlot”, modern Bethel as the shiny new “fresh harlot” is also now performing a similar, but more modern and crucial, cover up to truncate the 8th King defining, UN1-2-3-4 ascertainable prophecy, from being explained fully, stalled at WW2 and the United Nations 1945 global-presentation revealed prophetic event.

That the “8th” “King” is marked by four developmental UN related “steps to world government” [1], as UN1-2-3-4. And it is also in an easy-to-see, numbered, four UN related world government developmental steps in (1) 1919, (2) 1945, (3) 1990 and (4) the future, as Bethel conceals the 3rd (1990) and 4th (Future) UN manifestations, as our modern signal apostate and impostor hybrid-harlot miscreants. (Dan8:12; Dan11:30b-35; 2Thess2:1-4; Zech3:1-3)

Thus one can cross reference all the other prophetic details from other prophets and Bible portions into this timeline and framework—including Bethel’s modern apostasy and cover up—but the basic Daniel and Revelation chapters of those prophecies are the basis of it all as far as an identifiable structured prophetic-to-historic progression that for the most part are prophecies that are now world histories. So there is not much direct structured prophecy to actually read to review the framework of the dual progression of God’s Kingdom and 8th King “world government” finale final development which parallel each other, to arrive together, to Armageddon Global Arena. This is because most of the other unstructured “floating” Bible prophecies and histories are just supporting information to give extra detail to the main prophetic framework. The actual base Kingdom and temple framework is but a few pages of the Bible, everything else “registers” into that overall master guide.

Because of this latest cover up and apostate activity at Bethel, they are who are dealt with first by God and Christ in the coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s witnesses (1Pet4:17), timed for future verification in Daniel 8:13-14.

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Figure 1 – Seventy Years and Offset and Global Sovereign Convergence

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607 BCE versus 586 BCE Dating—All’s Good! All’s Well, Couldn’t Be Better!

Jerusalem Exile=Destruction? 607 BCE versus 586 BCE Dating—All’s Good! All’s Well, Couldn’t Be Better!

Part 1 of 4 Part Series; UPDATED 7.4

Prophecy Score Card
Seven Times Detail Landscape
Seven Times Detail Portrait
Seven Times Global
Seven Times Seven Global Color



A New Peak Inside the Bethel 607 Centric Time Machine

King Nebuchadnezzar and King Cyrus are the dating benchmarks for 607 BCE and 537 BCE’s “seven times” as 70 years. Nebuchadnezzar is the visible “seven times” benchmark of 607 BCE as at the least Crown Prince, or King designate of Babylon, whose dynasty ended in 537 BCE, by the hand of Cyrus the Great’s Medo-Persian alliance empire pinnacle conquest. TWO marked dates, 70 years as “seven times” chopping down Babylon, but with no restoration of the physical nation or empire—as the door was opened for Israel to restore the temple and Jerusalem. In that context, the 70 years of Davidic King “trampling” and the 70 years of exile manifest, while retaining the full 607 BCE significance, with some added benefits to be covered here. 

The “seven times” is thus marked by BOTH the Gentile domination beginning with Nebuchadnezzar’s marked ascension, AND Jerusalem’s divine king subjugation, concurrently established. The exile is merely a third 70 years development in that greater “Sovereign Confrontation” setup, fully demonstrating ALL of Daniel 4’s prophetic features, while maintaining the 607 BCE benchmark with even greater sovereign meaning, as will be covered here.

 

This sovereign summary:

 

  • Respects the original “seven times” significance of 607 BCE to 1914 CE.

  • Sets up the “70 years” of Jerusalem and Temple destruction to restoration of the temple to completion in the 586-515-516 BCE spiritual tie in to Zechariah and Governor Zerubbabel and High Priest Joshua’s symbolic King-Priest coronation of Zechariah 6:9-15.

  • Sets up the “two witnesses”, 2 x 1260 days=2520 days Revelation fulfillments in its “seven times” significance in 1914-1918 and the future final witnessing warning, of the very real King-Priest coronation of Jesus Christ in the completion of the Messianic Kingdom agency of the Kingdom of God total sovereign “Jerusalem Above” system in the future.

 

Background

In noticing “Penny’s Disassociation Letter”, and interesting idea and new perspective,…

http://www.watchtower.exposed/?p=857

…that 607 BCE is still valid, the only thing wrong was the assumption of a “exile and destruction” dual event requirement. So I took that idea and expanded on it in the direction I assumed sister Penny is possibly heading.

Bethel has minimized the initial Jehoiakim-to-Zedekiah Jerusalem intrigues and their actual significance in that era’s Jerusalem and Davidic king progression disruptions by gentile powers in Egypt and Babylon. Instead, the eventual climax of the Jerusalem destruction event became the main focus. And that 607 BCE magnetism drew in everything around it to 607’s centric gravitational nucleus of all Jehovah’s witness chronology timing from then to the past. That then sucked twenty years of the 586 BCE future (of that time), into that 607 BCE black hole “past”, by the massive gravity of the 607-1914 required “seven times” JW psychological super-mass, expanding everything after it 20 years, so the assumed 70 years destruction, could meet the 537 BCE Cyrus solid date. That 20 years is what is causing the pre Cyrus dating discrepancies we see today.

At the same time, Bethel is ignoring the 70 year length of the Babylonian dynasty as the “seven times” of permission also manifested on that world power when it fell to Cyrus and the Persians in 539 BCE, marked by Cyrus 537 BCE full ascension, also ending its 70 years domination, demonstrating its prophetic significance marker respecting Daniel 4’s main sovereign plot. Bethel claims Babylon dominated the region for 86 years, 625-539 BCE.

In the interim, in that vacuum and time warp, certain assumed events of admittedly great psychological prominence came to mark a valid 607 BCE date.

Back to the Future: Resolving The Missing 20 Years, Yet Keeping 607 BCE Validity

But in reality:

The exile and desolation do not necessarily have to be concurrent as a requirement in the prophecy, and yet still maintain the 607 BCE importance, for even more valid reasons to be covered here, once the clarification is made.

1. Babylon defined by Nebuchadnezzar’s “Gentile” rulership also comes into the 70 year significance; (As obvious in Daniel 4 as well, and for more reason than seven years of Nebuchadnezzar’s insanity. In THAT marked “seven times” as 70 years, everything else manifests, but we have a solid “gentile” benchmark date)

2. The initial subjugation of King Jehoiakim is actually more significant to the Davidic Kingdom Covenant “trampling” significance and its complimentary “seven times” 70 years parallel with Nebuchadnezzar’s 70 years; (also obvious in Daniel 4)

But as with Cyrus the Great 537 BCE dating, Nebuchadnezzar’s 607 BCE dating is the established benchmark, to not have to rely on the chronological forensics in the convoluted details surrounding Jehoiakim’s subjugation and the multi-phased exile. (Or worse, invent event dates to match the Bethel time machine input expectations.)

3. And that provides the actual seventy year Jewish exile context with greater actual meaning to the Daniel 4 prophecy theme as those dual sovereign developments in 1 and 2 come into play; (the exile “scattering” symbology is also in Daniel 4)

4. The Jerusalem and Temple destruction have their own “70 year” significance to arrive from 586 BCE to 515-516 BCE for the temple completion;

5. The “seven times” of 2520 years to 1914 CE is maintained, with extra emphasis.

And in so doing we can slide everything before 586 BCE (in the JW alternative reality timeline), twenty years “into the future” from the “alternative 607 BCE” to meet its real 586 BCE reality, to get back that lost twenty years properly, and still keep the validity. Right now Jehovah’s witnesses have Jerusalem destroyed twenty years before its time, in an “alternative past” that came with the ‘Bethel Time Machine’ “607” default setting.

With Bethel’s “Time Machine”, they were capable of transporting the entire set of events with them! Nice feature!

The Real Diametric Sovereign Theme

1. In what looks more and more like reality, if we examine secular dating and its tens upon tens of chronologies in rounded terms, Nebuchadnezzar was “crown prince” in 607-605 BCE, or was King of Babylon in 607-605 BCE, and in possible reality, in that “possible future”, his dynasty expired also within exactly 70 years in 539-537 BCE significance. (The variance of a couple years in the secular chronology is a non-issue at this scale of elapsed time, 537 BCE is the ultimate anointed one Cyrus benchmark—the rest just takes faith in “Time’s” very Designer, God Almighty.)

Thus this is the foundational first truth of Daniel 4, that King Nebuchadnezzar is a Daniel 4 “seven times” dating Babylon dynasty benchmark, as well, for 607 BCE:

(Daniel 4:20-22) ‘The tree that you beheld, that grew great and became strong and the height of which finally reached the heavens and which was visible to all the earth, 21 and the foliage of which was fair, and the fruit of which was abundant, and on which there was food for all; under which the beasts of the field would dwell, and on the boughs of which the birds of the heavens would reside, 22 it is you, O king, because you have grown great and become strong, and your grandeur has grown great and reached to the heavens, and your rulership to the extremity of the earth.

2. Jehoiakim and the first “Davidic Kings” subjugation is also 607 BCE in that context of the Daniel 4 prophecy required Babylonian gentile dating benchmark, and the first wave of possibly four waves of exiles (the 607 one “implied” also possibly began in 607. Then 597, then 587 and one after that, and probably other smaller transitions as well. But because we have Nebuchadnezzar 607 BCE and Cyrus 537 BCE datings, we have the required actual “seven time” 70 year well marked context to look at.)

Thus seventy years beginning, in the Davidic king interference parallel as well, marks this ultimate dual sovereign reality that the prophecy is actually about BOTH Nebuchadnezzar AND the Davidic King line interference:

(Daniel 4:19) “Belteshazzar (Daniel) was answering and saying, ‘O my lord, may the dream [apply] to those hating you, and its interpretation to your adversaries.

Now the “seven times” apply to BOTH Nebuchadnezzar’s Babylon kings dynasty expiring in 70 years, and the Davidic Kingdom disruption activities from Jehoiakim forward for seventy marked years, as concurrent, adding greater sovereign emphasis to the dual sovereign conflict of Daniel 4’s main plot—BOTH of which had “seven times” as 70 years pass over them concurrently in the same prophecy and its reality manifested on BOTH Babylon and Jerusalem at the same time!

And thus 607 BCE is still good, couldn’t be better in fact, times 3, with a greater contextual connection to the theme of the still ongoing Gentile versus Davidic Kingdom conflict. And Babylon then relates to the first controversial figure in Nimrod and the world government attempt of the days of the “tower of Babel” going back to the start of this post Noachian era’s sovereign conflict. (Gen10-11)

Thus the issue of world government defiance and its eventual completion and deposition is also present in the whole “Babylon” symbol deposition theme in Daniel 4, and the global reality.

Now there are actually three convergent reasons 607 BCE is marked, and how it is even more significant in harmonious sovereign conflict thematic meaning. And we know why a .01-.03% supposed “secular error” is normal when men try to affirm exact dating from over 2500 years ago, while correlating a dual timing system. But in reality, that sovereign timing, the Creator of the Universe, has timed like an atomic clock, to they very billionth of a second, in his jurisdiction of exact timings and meanings, which He opens when He purposes.

Regardless of the controversy the hourglass is running.

(Acts 1:6-8) When, now, they had assembled, they went asking him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” 7 He said to them: “It does not belong to you to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction; 8 but you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.”

Thus very interestingly, with the modern Bethel scandal and apostasy development heading to a judgment (Dan8:13-14), it appears the new look at 607 BCE will instead, in time, revisit the 1914 issue not to undermine it, but to affirm it in a greater manner and clarification, and it can emerge after the foretold Bethel downfall.

Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus are the dating benchmarks for 607 BCE and 537 BCE’s “seven times” as 70 years. Nebuchadnezzar is the visible “seven times” benchmark of 607 BCE as at the least Crown Prince, or King designate of Babylon, whose dynasty ended in 537 BCE, by the hand of Cyrus the Great’s Medo-Persian alliance empire pinnacle conquest. TWO marked dates, 70 years as “seven times” chopping down Babylon, but with no restoration of the physical nation or empire—as the door was opened for Israel to restore the temple and Jerusalem.

The Temple “70 Year” Link Extends to Zechariah and Temple Restoration and Completion

Thus the temple destruction, in what seems to be around 586-587 BCE or so, with the city of Jerusalem, is also a 70 years “seven times” connection to the temple restoration and completion in 515-516 BCE. At that time of Davidic Zerubbabel’s Governorship, Zechariah was directed to “crown” High Priest Joshua as symbolic King-Priest with the crown of “silver and gold” in Zechariah 6:9-15 (Ps110 foregleam) in “King-Priest” symbolism of Christ, when the Temple completed as recorded in Nehemiah and Ezra, as prophesied by Haggai and Zechariah in their “Temple Revelation” records that are now being tied in by this second 70 years extension from 586 BCE to 516 BCE.

And this is why these supporting Jerusalem and Temple “70 years” time spans do not have to be concurrent with the human psychological requirement of such a parallel present in Jehovah’s witnesses current interpretation. In fact this offset marked by the real Jerusalem destruction climax event of 586 BCE, highlights the Temple completion of 515-516 BCE and its climax event symbology, with a clear complimentary 70 years time span bridged into the prophecies of Haggai and Zechariah. And thus the post 537 BCE time period of Israel’s emancipation that led to Malachi’s final temple prophecy, is spanned to the far clearer Christ connections actually present in this entire 607 BCE to 516 BCE progression.

Connection to Christ and Revelation’s “Seven Times”

By Christ’s time, where Revelation’s Revelation 8-11’s parallel with Zechariah 3-4 and other parts of Zechariah’s and Malachi’s Temple Revelation are certain, the final connections and parallels to Christ’s future manifestation of the true meaning in all these synchronized events, “appointed time” limits, and the ultimate “Jerusalem” and “Temple” patterns, to become a far greater reality in the future, is completed and maintained.

In that way the affirmation God is providing in this epic era of Israel’s and Jerusalem’s prophetic and historic development to this very climax transition to the Christian era, is actually greater than currently provided in JWs problematic interpretation, although it does contain the sovereign import, basic theme and connection to 1914. Now 1914-1919’s ultimate “Gentile” “8th King” designate , “image of the wildbeast” arrival in the League of Nations in 1914-1919, during the “first witness” of the “two witnesses”—and the emergence of a Global Government claiming development is of course not a mere coincidence. Instead it is the final “Gentile” entity to be permitted to complete, state their global claims, and then meet the Kingdom of Christ, for real, to settle this sovereign dispute as to who will rule and be King of planet Earth.

And that is why they received a “first witnessing” of 1260 days, or 3.5 times, but half of the divine “seven times” of fair warning amidst final Gentile rulership permission to lead, in time, to the “second witnessing” of also 1260 days, that must precede 8th King full World Government. And thus the “seven times” will be complete in that final 1260 days, “3.5 times”, as it repeats the final time, hence “two witnesses”.

To get there, the 20 years offset for the 586 BCE Jerusalem and Temple destruction, allows a deeper extension to the temple restoration and completion propehtic parallels, and it too is highly spiritually significant.

Now the solid link to post Cyrus 537-515 BCE into Zechariah’s time and prophecy and the Temple reconstruction significance of 515-516 BCE “Temple completion” in all this, is also now tied in to the entire post 607 BCE events, in a new way.

Now another solid spiritual meaning leading to Christ’s Kingdom and Temple King-Priest of God significance, in this harmonious actual reality, emerges.

And thus “four” “seven times” can apply, but three to “607” BCE directly, as (1) disrupting Jehovah’s David Kings natural flow, in the events after King Jehoahaz deposition by Necho II, and placing Jehoiakim by Egyptian influence, who very quickly came under (2) Babylonian Nebuchadnezzar’s also 70 year marked domination, to activate the (3) Jewish “exile” overall context , all also in the 607 BCE neighborhood as far as secular history and Bible chronology.

(4) The fourth related 70 years is this “Temple Extension” offset into Zechariah from 586 BCE to 516 BCE significance.

And that final Revelation “seven times” is affirmed by all this actual synchronisms in the prophecy. The fifth “seven times” connection as all that original symbology leads to the real completion in Jesus Christ from God Almighty whose purpose is actually exact, in spite of human error and waffling for centuries and centuries in the post Christ progression to Har-Magedon—just a matter of time, and the final “seven times” completing as “two witnesses”, 2×1260 days, for 2520 days, “seven times”, of open salvation invitation to extend in time to world government before it arrives, and thus to and through the Christ arrival, to end the “Gentile Times” for good.

1. Kingdom.

And thus the Davidic line was also being “trampled”, in that Gentile rulers were actively interfering with the natural flow of the Davidic Kings line, since after Josiah died. But King Nebuchadnezzar, as with Daniel 4’s benchmark focusing on his Gentile “Kingdom”, is also the supporting 607 BCE “gentile” figure with a 70 year limited dynasty and kingdom, and that dynasty expired within 70 years, in 539-537 BCE, as also foretold as implied as well, in Daniel 4. Secular dating may waffle a year or two, but 537 BCE is solid with God to know great events, more than one, mark 607 BCE.

But now we have the parallel “Gentile versus Jerusalem” sovereign “seven times” and seventy years significance as the real context of Daniel 4 and the complete spiritual theme God has instituted as to the time limit of “Gentile” sovereignty, to be replaced by the Jerusalem Christ final sovereign transition to God Almighty, in time. (1Cor15:24-28). Thus this explains Daniel 4 fully, by seeing the “seven times” as 70 years that Babylon was also limited too, not 86 years as Bethel’s erred math claims.

And in so doing the dating can harmonize with the tons of secular, Jewish and Christian research chronologies, which themselves waffle a couple years, but not with 20 year anomalies like Bethel’s premature assumptions allowed.

2. Temple.

AND the TEMPLE is tied in as well, thus “Kingdom” “seven times” meaning and its supporting “Temple” 70 years connection from 586-587 BCE destruction to the post Cyrus, Jerusalem Temple restoration, now reinforced meaning, are the central issues in reality, KINGDOM and TEMPLE (Ps110), both traceable with a massive history that totally harmonizes with all prophecy like a perfect puzzle leading to the future Kingdom and Temple COMPLETIONS to come, under Jesus Christ from God Almighty, well after Apostate Bethel goes down as the modern “apostate Jerusalem” symbol. (Matt24:15; Matt22:1-14; Dan8:13-14; Matt25:1-13; Isa28)

And if that is the case, and it seems it is the only explanation, now all Bible prophecy chronology, all Jewish history chronology, all Babylonian and Assyrian and 100 other chronologies as well as all secular history datings all “jives” like a Cosmic Clock in ACTUALLY PERFECT HARMONY, as 607 BCE is even more important than it was previously thought to be!

All’s Well that Ends Well!

And so EITHER WAY 607 is the marked date, still, but now in time it will revisit 1914 CE with added emphasis of a truly perfectly harmonious total overview all the way back to 740 BCE (and before), all the dates are valid, the events just shift “20 years” forward, and thus the “20 year” “problem” is fixed for good. And as Bible students we might as well go with a more spiritually powerful rationale, also accurate with all the global chronologies, and realize expecting an exact year every time, is unrealistic, but we are in the exact 607 range.

Now the 70 years marked directly:

1. The length and end of “Nebuchadnezzar” symbolic Gentile rule, in 70 years.

2. The King Nebuchadnezzar marked disruption of the natural flow of the Davidic Kingdom Covenant kings for 70 years, eventually retaining a “son of David” in Zerubbabel, but as “governor” rather than “king”, thus still being “trampled” to this day. (As Zerubbabel ties to Kingdom-Temple, completion meaning of Zechariah’s Temple Revelation)

3. This context Allows 70 years of exile and “Seventy Sabbaths” to be fully accounted within a 90 year overall cushion zone, but no doubt also tied to 607 in some manner, but not having to be so—it still works!!!!

And that great Jerusalem deposition context thus benchmarks the fourth “70 years” overlap to 515-516 BCE.

4. Therefore all this solid “seventy years” in “seven times” principle, allowed the Temple Priesthood Covenant of “Melchizedek”, to be demonstrated on High Priest Joshua (Joshua) (Zech6:9-15), after of an offset phase of 70 years of also Temple destruction with Jerusalem’s destruction 585-586 BCE, when Jerusalem’s second Temple was COMPLETED in 515-516 BCE, 70 years after its destruction.

(Zechariah 4:6-9) Accordingly he answered and said to me: “This is the word of Jehovah to Zerubbabel, saying, ‘“Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” Jehovah of armies has said. 7 Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel [you will become] a level land. And he will certainly bring forth the headstone. There will be shoutings to it: “How charming! How charming!”’” 8 And the word of Jehovah continued to occur to me, saying: 9 “The very hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house, and his own hands will finish [it].

(Zechariah 6:9-13) And the word of Jehovah continued to occur to me, saying: 10 “Let there be a taking of something from the exiled people, [even] from Heldai and from Tobijah and from Jedaiah; and you yourself must come in that day, and you must come into the house of Josiah the son of Zephaniah [with these] who have come from Babylon. 11 And you must take silver and gold and make a grand crown and put [it] upon the head of Joshua the son of Jehozadak the high priest. 12 And you must say to him, “‘This is what Jehovah of armies has said: “Here is the man whose name is Sprout. And from his own place he will sprout, and he will certainly build the temple of Jehovah. 13 And he himself will build the temple of Jehovah, and he, for his part, will carry [the] dignity; and he must sit down and rule on his throne, and he must become a priest upon his throne, and the very counsel of peace will prove to be between both of them.

And thus an divine “seventy years” iron link is forged and also connected to Haggai and Zechariah, far greater modern meaning to ALL the “Kingdom”, “Temple” and “Holy City” significance in prophecy and the reality to arrive with Christ, to the very year, day, hour and second the Almighty purposes!! All the world has to do, is get 8th King World Government done first (Dan11:45; Dan8:25; Rev17:8-18; Rev13:3,15-18), as the 7th King/King South must fall [5], to allow that final rise of 8th King/King North!

Then the real “Gentile versus Jerusalem” dynasty showdown of Armageddon can truly conclude this Biblical theme as foretold by God Himself.

In God’s divine timing all this stuff is to the day and hour, we just have faith. (Rev14:12)

(James 1:16-18) Do not be misled, my beloved brothers. 17 Every good gift, [the “Grand Father Clock”], and every perfect present is from above, for it comes down from the Father of the [celestial] lights [and the Clock of the Universe, Christ], and with him there is not a variation of the turning of the shadow. 18 Because he willed it, he brought us forth by the word of truth, for us to be certain firstfruits of his creatures.

Human error of a couple years is understandable. Controversy? If the coming Messianic Kingdom eternal reign of God and Christ was all cool with the “Gentiles” global “powers that be”, then worry—then something is wrong.

(Luke 6:26) “Woe, whenever all men speak well of you, for things like these are what their forefathers did to the false prophets.

(Matthew 5:11-12) “Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. 12 Rejoice and leap for joy, since your reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you.

Of course there will be doubt, discrediting, resistance and apostate Bethel to mark our final era! It’s a “no brainer”! It only makes it all MORE realistic and still TRUE!

And now Bethel actual error motivates a quandary of assumptions that because they are in an error of events, not dating, they must be totally invalid. Now people are not lyingly accusing Bethel, there is actual error, but the meaning of that error is what is being overblown, and aided by Bethel scandal to undermine the original warning that the “powers that be” do have a basic time limit, that is the basic warning in all this: Christ is indeed coming to rule earth.

Therefore any “1 or 2” year variance in secular, Jewish and Bible dating correlation, is just standard .01-.02% human error over this multi-millennial timeline with the various “ascension, regnal” year, Jewish calendar offset and counting traditions and their seeming inconsistencies, and, at time, possible purposeful disinformation, which are actually all “right on” in divine and prophetic reality and chronological harmony.

But this rationale is far better than Bethel’s current 20 years of the unaccounted time which developed when the BETHEL ASSUMPTION was made that the “seven times” of 70 years (and thus the 2520 years basis) had to begin with Jerusalem’s total destruction, as if their was some divine law the exile and desolation had to be concurrent and it HAD to be in 607 BCE, which there is no divine requirement that they have to be concurrent [4]. Additionally, and 607 BCE is marked by even greater dual sovereign events of even greater significance.

And in reality the “gentile” fiddling with the divine kings of Jerusalem, as far more significant to the Davidic Kingdom Covenant theme, and Luke 21:24 than the destruction event itself, though related.

And yet, with this “update”, it all still retains the truth of the significance of the 607 BCE date!! Nice!

In fact it makes it all the more significant, as now with triple the “seven times” emphasis, as shown, in what is actually most important in Daniel 4’s sovereign prophecy which contains Nebuchadnezzar’s dynastic limit of 70 years as well, concurrent with the Davidic Kingdom disruption of 70 years, and the “Shake off its foliage, and scatter its fruitage” of 70 years exile context is also met. And all that during that marked epic sovereign conflict focusing on both the “Gentile” Babylon sovereignty versus the “Israel” Jerusalem sovereignty, as the fuller plot of Daniel 4’s meaning, while maintaining the basic sovereign timing principles Jehovah’s witnesses already understand.

And thus the real gentile versus Jerusalem sovereign conflict is still emphasized, but with the added detail that Nebuchadnezzar’s Babylon dynasty also has a 70 year “seven times” frame concurrent with the overall 70 years of the Davidic Kings “seven times” servitude to that same gentile dynasty. And that “seven times” still continued to 1914 CE in its greater “trampling” context.

Plus, it makes a direct connection into Haggai and Zechariah Temple restoration prophecy of 515-516 BCE! Nice!

(Daniel 4:13-15) I continued beholding in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, look! a watcher, even a holy one, coming down from the heavens themselves. 14 He was calling out loudly, and this is what he was saying: “CHOP the tree down, and cut off its boughs. SHAKE off its foliage, and scatter its fruitage. Let the beast flee from under it, and the birds from its boughs. 15 However, LEAVE its rootstock itself in the earth, even with a banding of iron and of copper, among the grass of the field; and with the dew of the heavens let it be wet, and with the beast let its portion be among the vegetation of the earth.

And yet, Two “bandings”, “iron and copper”, in Daniel 4? Two timings! 607 and 586! The big “seven times” of 2520 years still applies overall from the 607 BCE triple marker.

1914? “Two witnesses”? TWO witnessings, 1914-1919 and the future! Double whammy! [3] Plenty of “twos” and “sevens” here, and valid extensions into further prophetic development from Zechariah to Christ and Revelation to today to the future.

The real sovereign theme of conflict still continues in the world to today, as even Bethel has overrun anointed Christian authority at Bethel itself, while they cover up the fact the world is headed towards 8th King World Government!

The Bethel “Time Machine”—How All Pre Cyrus Dating Became Hinged on the “Target 607 BCE” Dual Event Assumption Gaining 20 Years of JW “Alternative Reality” Time

By understandable error in Charles Russell’s time, and at old-school Bethel, the valid DATE, 607 BCE, by such an erred assumption of the ASSUMED EVENT that marked it and its “exile” and “destruction” assumed concurrency, became the Jehovah’s witnesses benchmark date—but with 20 years time shifted events; JW time travel.

In this case OTHER RELATED EVENTS, real historically valid ones, that actually marked the 607 BCE timeframe were not yet fully considered.

And given the FACT the ca. 605 BCE and ca. 586 BCE date had been determined by Isaac Newton, and others, using the Bible’s own chronology and secular dating of those more dated eras, it is more than a single source of chronology data which forms this accepted range by many chronologies.

*** The Chronology of Ancient Kingdoms amended ***

“606. Nebuchadnezzar invades Syria and Judæa….

588. The Temple of Solomon is burnt by Nebuchadnezzar.”

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15784/15784-h/15784-h.htm
By Sir Isaac Newton; posthumously 1728 CE

There are some people who seem to think Newton can count correctly and was relatively good with numbers. Thus he is just one more person who did not “time travel” and that we can use to help disprove Bethel’s Modern Theory of 607 Gravity.

These secular dating data sources include the Babylonian Chronicles, which Bethel uses to support their modern time travel theory, though it itself states the Jerusalem destruction date in the ca. 586 time-frame.

The Babylonian Chronicle

http://www.bible-history.com/archaeology/babylon/babylonian-chronicle.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(587_BC)

*** Insight on the Scriptures Vol. 1 p. 447 Chronology ***

“Accurate chronology requires that some point in the stream of time be set as the marker from which to count either forward or backward in time units”

So Marty “Bethel” McFly set his own “point in the stream of time”, without consulting the Doc. It was actually very understandable how the error set in so deeply, for the context and 607 BCE date is indeed valid, it was just a shift in assumed event(s) that marked that prophecy.

Thus there is a missing traceable time link in the Bible’s own chronology between the destruction of Jerusalem and the universal Cyrus 537 BCE date because the Bible does not state the beginning point or explicit event of the 70 year time frame though it does state the context [5]* (and as we are seeing, all the requirements can all be met, and do not have to be in one 70 year concurrency). Bethel also uses human assumption to base their 607 BCE timeline graph origin upon, in all their datings prior to Jerusalem’s assumed destruction date in that Bethel alternative time graph actually based on a premature assumption.

*(2 Chronicles 36:21) to fulfill Jehovah’s word by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had paid off its sabbaths. ” All the days of lying desolated it kept sabbath, to fulfill seventy years.”

For example the exile releasing Cyrus decree 70 years marker of 537 BCE, respecting the prophecy, does not mean the 70 years of sabbaths being repaid fully must be concurrent by divine decree—its concurrency is a human psychological assumption. In the interim return to Judea, there is room to fulfill the sabbath requirement in the few years after the 70 year marked return initiated as the land production was definitely far below maximum for some time. And thus such a progressive unmarked restoration allows the “seventy sabbaths” to be accounted as God traced all the requirements.

But the high priority “seven times” 70 year requirements are all marked by marked time periods in Babylon’s 70 years and Persia’s emancipation of Israel, the 607 BCE to 537 BCE fully marked.

(Jeremiah 25:11-12) And all this land must become a devastated place, an object of astonishment, and these nations will have to serve the king of Babylon seventy years.”’ 12 “‘And it must occur that when seventy years have been fulfilled I shall call to account against the king of Babylon…

(Jeremiah 29:10) “For this is what Jehovah has said, ‘In accord with the fulfilling of seventy years at Babylon I shall turn my attention to you people, and I will establish toward you my good word in bringing you back to this place.’

(Daniel 9:2) … I myself, Daniel, discerned by the books the number of the years concerning which the word of Jehovah had occurred to Jeremiah the prophet, for fulfilling the devastations of Jerusalem, [namely,] seventy years.

(Zechariah 1:12) So the angel of Jehovah answered and said: “O Jehovah of armies, how long will you yourself not show mercy to Jerusalem and to the cities of Judah, whom you have denounced these seventy years?”

And if you notice in these previously noted sample datings, even in secular terms, a two year approximate variance is present, and that is typical of this research into other chronologies. Thus 607 BCE validity is found to be possible in that variance, based on the solid dating of the post Cyrus 539-537 BCE chronology, by having the faith of God’s assured 70 year timing in all regards. One will find this research will open a new can of worms, as many chronologies will emerge in this research, but NONE of them with a “20 year” error. And thus it is not just one source of the secular estimations, and thus it cannot just be a “lie”; there is merely another explanation present in this opportunity that respects the validity of the whole “seven times”, since 607 BCE’s benchmark and Cyrus 537 BCE terminus.

And thus the topic is not just abandoned because of an error of assumption and a 607 heavy expectation as if this Bethel error negates the entire Jehovah’s witnesses and Christian faith, for it does not—instead, it clarifies and harmonizes it. Thus, instead, it is studied more carefully and open mindedly with faith in prophecy, based on supporting events based around the post Cyrus datings and secular datings to find a valid alternative explanation for the actual events that match the prophecy and yet retain the sovereign import.

It requires a lack of bias, other than in affirming the prophecy, for many “607 critics” have completely lost the whole sovereign import, entering another vacuum and limbo, while attempting to discredit Bethel and the JW ministry as if 100% invalid by default, which is also an error. They hit the time travel button, but now with no destination whatsoever in mind other than the lost La La land of another past in Christendom’s own time warp.

And that is how that dual-event assumption at Bethel, became the basis and nucleus of the “607 BCE Center of the JW Chronology Universe” and its inertia for all dating prior to and with King Zedekiah’s deposition, with an erred 607 BCE EVENT-to-date assumed required concurrency, that had to correlate with Zedekiah’s removal, also at 607 BCE, but in error—and thus the twenty year abruption in harmony with secular chronologies.

And yet adjusting the chronology to fit reality, changes nothing of the sovereign import of the prophecy or the original validity of the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry, now derailed in other ways as well, so we can expect nothing but more error from apostate Bethel.

The date is fine, the assumed events are what “time traveled” 20 years in the JW universe.

That is why everything chronological, after Cyrus 537 BCE, “Jives”, and everything before 537 BCE has a “twenty year” error, starting with Zedekiah’s chronology drawn to the 607 BCE Black-hole Bethel “Time Warp”. Just subtract 20 years, prior to King Zedekiah’s dating, for all Jehovah’s witnesses dating based on this 607 JW Center of Bethel Chronology calculations, all counting 20 years from 607 backward, with Zedekiah being deposed twenty years too soon.

Thus, 20 years of Jerusalem future history, at that time of 607 BCE, were lost. It just went “to the future” of 586 BCE real events, transposed to Bethel’s 607 BCE “alternate future” for Jerusalem and that “virtual reality” as they lay in ruins 20 years too soon, and everything else chronological then shifts back 20 years with Time Traveler Zedekiah to make that “alternate reality” work. And thus the JW Clock, got spun back 175200 hours, or 7300 days, or 20 approximate years from the real 586 BCE, for the Bethel “alternative reality” 607 BCE events. Now why should every king in Israel and Judah starting with Zedekiah backward also have an average twenty year discrepancy with secular history including Jewish chronologies from the past?

(Admittedly there are dating variances in secular chronology, but a consistent Bethel 20 year shift backward in time is suspect when its source can be traced forward to the 607 BCE assumptions, though there is evidence even more significant marked events mark 607 BCE anyways. Meaning there is no reason to provide an area for stumbling, when none actually exists, and 607 BCE seven times basis is maintained at the same time.)

In reality King Nebuchadnezzar and King Jehoiakim initiating concurrency is the 607 BCE starting “seven times” marker, not Zedekiah’s deposition!

And thus the unneeded Bethel time “decompression”, sliding JW chronology backward in time “20 years”, starting with Zedekiah’s chronology, also correlates with Jehoiakim’s 11 years and Zedekiah’s 11 years needing to shift back 22 years, compressed to meet the 607 central JW chronology target. And thus, everything before those kings, had to now chronologically fit the “607” date by a DESTRUCTION EVENT marker assumption.

And that became that “20 year problem” in 22 years of an unaccountable time shift backward in time, as the original mistake pushed all dates around 20 years back, while everything forward in time aligned as expected, like Cyrus the Great’s 539-537 BCE “set in stone” date, another key date and its 70 year terminus that actually saved the day—thus Cyrus was the “anointed one” from God for good reason to be another reliable benchmark dating as in reality King Nebuchadnezzar is the other divine “Gentile” tool marking 607 BCE!

I’ll say it again: Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus are the real 607-537 BCE dating benchmarks with even greater significance. Nebuchadnezzar is the visible “seven times” benchmark of 607 BCE as at the least Crown Prince, or King designate of Babylon, whose dynasty ended in 537 BCE, by the hand of Cyrus the Great’s Medo-Persian alliance empire pinnacle conquest, after SEVENTY YEARS. TWO marked dates, 70 years as “seven times” chopping down Babylon, but with no restoration of the physical nation or empire. And the door was opened for Israel to restore the temple and Jerusalem, prophetically well connected.

Thus Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus are the two reliable 607-537 BCE markers, of “gentile” powers opposed to God’s Kingdom kings of that time, into which the 70 years of Davidic king “trampling” and the 70 year exile manifest. And that core Gentile versus the Kingdom of God in its typical/visible form is a symbolic picture of the future final Kinging of Jesus Christ in the Messianic Kingdom completion event and the final deposition of the Gentile globalist 8th King contender, in very clear “Gentile” versus “Zion” kingly conflict and subjugation.

And that still ties in to the 8th King designate of the 1914-1919 presentation of the first step to world government in the League of Nations to continue the conflict all the way to their final “World Government” presentation of the future, and the arrival of Christ at Armageddon, to settle the issue eternally. Josiah may have lost at Megiddo against Gentile Egyptian Pharaoh, leading to the subjugation of Gentile Babylon, but at Har-Magedon Christ will not be defeated. And thus the climax showdown has been set up in that historic transition of Jerusalem to fall under the hand of Gentile domination, as fully historically marked by Nebuchadnezzar’s Babylonian marked ascension in 607 BCE, and his seven times of permission for 70 years, no more, no less.

(Jeremiah 25:11-12) And all this land must become a devastated place, an object of astonishment, and these nations will have to serve the king of Babylon seventy years.”’ 12 “‘And it must occur that when seventy years have been fulfilled I shall call to account against the king of Babylon…

Doc: It was the JW “Time Machine”, and now it has to come “Back to the Future” regarding that 20 year shift to the past, a past that does not actually exist at its correct position in universal space time and temporal Biblical reality Marty! JWs have screwed with the past Marty!

Marty McFly: Wait a minute. Wait a minute, Doc. Ah… Are you telling me that Bethel built a time machine… out of an assumption?

Doc: Precisely.

The 607 BCE date still applies, as shown, the Jerusalem destruction was actually offset that 20 years to 586 BCE, for “Holy City” and “Temple” purposes of linking later to other supporting prophecy and the Zechariah’s prophecy continuum to “King-Priest” Christ coronation (Zech6:9-15) and the “Temple Completion” meaning. Which climax event was not in “God’s Kingdom” in 1914 (a valid event, but not the final one), but in the future Messianic Kingdom and temple completion reality on the way.

The REAL dual event of great spiritual significance, marking 586 BCE, is Jerusalem’s “Kingdom Capital” destruction and the “Holy Temple” destruction of 586 BCE, for its prophetic extension into the Zechariah era temple completion tie in of 515-516 BCE—also 70 years! That then summarizes it all, as the temple is restored and completed in post Cyrus activity extending to Haggai and Zechariah’s prophecy, perfectly concluding the ancient Israel era, just extending this “70 years” forward 20 years from 586 BCE to 515-516 BCE, but with the same 70 year significance of rebuilding and completion and still linked to the original “seven times” events of ancient Jerusalem!

Christ and Revelation arrived to wrap it up for our era, same themes, same 2520 years carry over to 1914 for the final 2520 days as Revelation 8-11 must fulfill twice, once in 1914-1919, one more time in the future, [3] BEFORE Christ arrives into the rival 8th King “Gentile” world government completion triggering his arrival to truly complete that critical sovereign conflict resolution once and for all.

Jeremiah gave the final kings of his days full warning for 40 years (Jer1), and from Josiah’s time, but especially for Jehoiakim to Zedekiah’s time, they could have repented, with the people, but they all ignored all 40 years of Jeremiah’s warning and divine advice for admission, and submission to Babylon. Thus the interim to Jerusalem’s destruction was a warning period that could have been responded to, as to why God allowed it all to stretch on for a critical final 22 years prior to total Jerusalem destruction.

Cyrus the Great Time Marker

This is why Cyrus the Great was God’s “anointed one” that solidifies the divine benchmark of that time, 537 BCE, just as Christ the “anointed one” also provided in 29 CE for the “seventy weeks” (Dan9).

Cyrus is also the key to know the seventy years terminus.

(Isaiah 45:1-7) This is what Jehovah has said to his anointed one, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have taken hold of, to subdue before him nations, so that I may ungird even the hips of kings; to open before him the two-leaved doors, so that even the gates will not be shut: 2 “Before you I myself shall go, and the swells of land I shall straighten out. The copper doors I shall break in pieces, and the iron bars I shall cut down. 3 And I will give you the treasures in the darkness and the hidden treasures in the concealment places, in order that you may know that I am Jehovah, the One calling [you] by your name, the God of Israel. 4 For the sake of my servant Jacob and of Israel my chosen one, I even proceeded to call you by your name; I proceeded to give you a name of honor, although you did not know me. 5 I am Jehovah, and there is no one else. With the exception of me there is no God. I shall closely gird you, although you have not known me, 6 in order that people may know from the rising of the sun and from its setting that there is none besides me. I am Jehovah, and there is no one else. 7 Forming light and creating darkness, making peace and creating calamity, I, Jehovah, am doing all these things.

In keeping with this use of Gentile powers to establish the benchmarks of God’s “seven times” purpose in this prophecy, Nebuchadnezzar’s 607 BCE date is the benchmark, as is the limited 70 year duration of his Babylon dynasty destroyed by King Cyrus the “anointed one”. The exile and Davidic King trampling progression of 70 years is thus contained in this context.

The physical total removal of the final Davidic king in 586 BCE, and thus the total absence of any David related Israel “reigning” authority for 70 years Desolation Phase, until the 515-516 BCE “coronation” of Aaronic High Priest Joshua, crowned by Zechariah in Governor Zerubbabel period, Zerubbabel the “son of David” in dual symbolic foregleam at Jerusalem Temple completion (Zech6:9-15; Ps110), concluded that total absence of a divine king in Jerusalem—albeit with a low key “Priest” “King” in Joshua and Davidic Zerubabel as a subservient Judean Governor.

But in time the point will be made, when Christ assumes total true Messianic Kingdom Kingship as High Priest of God’s Complete Temple as Immortal “Melchizedekian” King Priest, with the “Gentile” Globalist 8th King King North World Government completed then put eternally under foot in the Global Sovereign Arena of Armageddon in the future, when the “other guys”, the “powers that were”, get their big “trampling” (Rev19:19-21; Rev14:17-20), once they are complete (Dan8:25; Dan11:45), and stated in global sovereignty (1Thess5:1-3), in their final “one hour” of World Government “Gentile” defiance active (Dan12:11; Rev11:7-13), to the fullness of the whole prophecy. (Rev17:8-18; Rev16:13-20; Rev8-11)

(Psalm 110:1-2) The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”  2 The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:] “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.”

And that is how Christ completes the final portion of God’s Kingdom, the Messianic Kingdom earthly sovereign agency in the future, “in the midst of” his unified-globalized global “enemies”, in the face of the then ruling 8th King World Government, “in their midst”, as well. Christ arrives upon a complete 8th King King North world government in complete form to cap off the ultimate complete showdown of all history for this Adamic “Gentile” era.

The Cyrus emancipation of Israel to place Governor Zerubbabel legally in Judea in 537 BCE marked progression in Jerusalem’s restoration, was the end of the “seven times” of that Davidic King “trampling” for this prophecy “seven times” focus, but with a subservient governor, not a reigning King in Jerusalem. Which thus marks that “seven times” as 70 years in all “Gentile” versus “Jerusalem” parallels by the marked consistency of God using two Gentile “power tools”, and BOTH of their datings, as the dating benchmarks in Nebuchadnezzar 607 BCE and Cyrus 537 BCE—and why Nebuchadnezzar is the first central figure of the Daniel 40 “seven times” prophecy equating to 70 years of the divine permission of Babylon under the Nebuchadnezzar dynasty, and its continued existence.

Nebuchadnezzar’s Main “Seven Times” Application and Thus Benchmark Dating: 607 BCE

The prophecy actually starts with the Nebuchadnezzar ascension marker, everything else is parallel:

(Daniel 4:19) “At that time Daniel himself, whose name is Belteshazzar, was astonished for a moment, and his very thoughts began to frighten him.

(Daniel 4:20-22) “‘The tree that you beheld, that grew great and became strong and the height of which finally reached the heavens and which was visible to all the earth, 21 and the foliage of which was fair, and the fruit of which was abundant, and on which there was food for all; under which the beasts of the field would dwell, and on the boughs of which the birds of the heavens would reside, 22 it is you, O king (Nebuchadnezzar), because you have grown great and become strong, and your grandeur has grown great and reached to the heavens, and your rulership to the extremity of the earth.

(Daniel 4:25) seven times themselves will pass over you(Symbolic upon King Nebuchadnezzar (in foregleam form, seven years), and “seven times” upon the total Babylon 70 year time permission parallel of this period, and this prophecy, also applicable to Babylon’s 70 years in this development under Nebuchadnezzar’s dynasty of the final kings of Babylon and its empire ceased within 70 years—not 86 as present in the Bethel error.)

(Jeremiah 51:59-64) The word that Jeremiah the prophet commanded Seraiah the son of Neriah the son of Mahseiah when he went with Zedekiah the king of Judah to Babylon in the fourth year of his being king; and Seraiah was the quartermaster. 60 And Jeremiah proceeded to write in one book all the calamity that would come upon Babylon, even all these words written against Babylon. 61 Furthermore, Jeremiah said to Seraiah: “As soon as you come to Babylon and actually see [her], you must also read aloud all these words. 62 And you must say, ‘O Jehovah, you yourself have spoken against this place, in order to cut it off so that there may come to be in it no inhabitant, either man or even domestic animal, but that she may become mere desolate wastes to time indefinite.’ 63 And it must occur that when you will have completed reading this book, you will tie to it a stone, and you must pitch it into the midst of the Euphrates. 64 And you must say, ‘This is how Babylon will sink down and never rise up because of the calamity that I am bringing in upon her; and they will certainly tire themselves out.’”

Jerusalem’s Ultimate Parallel “Seven Times” Application

But as Daniel nicely baited Nebuchadnezzar with this seeming support cited below, the “good news” before the bad news so to speak, before dropping the “seven times” bomb on him, that it was he the “seven times” would apply to in Daniel 4:20-22, Daniel says this:

(Daniel 4:19) “Belteshazzar was answering and saying, ‘O my lord, may the dream [apply] to those hating you, and its interpretation to your adversaries.

Thus that is true at the same time, in application upon the “Kingdom of God” as expressed in Jerusalem’s symbol and that of the Judean Davidic kings “chopped down”, as it is also upon Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar’s 70 year “seven times” final dynasty in that “gentile” kingdom to also be “chopped down” by Cyrus in time:

(Daniel 4:23) “‘And because the king beheld a watcher, even a holy one, coming down from the heavens, who was also saying: “CHOP the tree down, and RUIN it. However, LEAVE its rootstock itself in the earth, but with a banding of iron and of copper, among the grass of the field, and with the dew of the heavens let it become wet, and with the beasts of the field let its portion be until seven times themselves pass over it,”

Now by that symbolism of the “rootstock”, we know who the “Sprout” is in the 515-516 BCE Temple completion symbolism, and what Davidic Kingdom “rootstock” he sprouts from, to connect this prophecy finally to the “adversary” of the Babylonian symbol of temporary and divinely numbered gentile earthly rulership:

(Zechariah 6:11-13) And you must take silver and gold and make a grand crown and put [it] upon the head of Joshua the son of Jehozadak the high priest. 12 And you must say to him, “‘This is what Jehovah of armies has said: “Here is the man whose name is Sprout. And from his own place he will sprout, and he will certainly build the temple of Jehovah. 13 And he himself will build the temple of Jehovah, and he, for his part, will carry [the] dignity; and he must sit down and rule on his throne, and he must become a priest upon his throne, and the very counsel of peace will prove to be between both of them.

The symbol is, in the completed Temple—of the future—is where the Messianic Kingdom Christ “King of kings” and King-Priest will be coronated when the final “seven times” of Revelation 11 is fulfilled after the final 1260 days “two witnesses” completes into the pinnacle “Babylon” “head of gold” world government of the “8th King” “King North” of the future.

That Messianic Kingdom must also complete in the future, thus the import in this “seven times” connection to Zechariah’s prophecy, of completing everything required to enable the full Christ of God final coronation. Christ completes the final Messianic Kingdom and Temple entities in this final “seven times” drive of the Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment and then the final pre-Christ-arrival 1260 days, which TOTAL COMPLETION God Almighty Himself finalizes with the placement of Christ as King-Priest of it all as top Kingdom and Temple authority and reality.

And so the “seven times” as “seven years” which resulted in the humbling of Nebuchadnezzar, is a symbol of the Global “Gentile” also coming to know “that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind, and that to the one whom he wants to he gives it” and Jesus Christ is the God anointed Ultimate King this Sovereign right has been, and will be fully given to:

(Daniel 4:24-25) this is the interpretation, O king, and the decree of the Most High is that which must befall my lord the king. 25 And you they will be driving away from men, and with the beasts of the field your dwelling will come to be, and the vegetation is what they will give even to you to eat just like bulls; and with the dew of the heavens you yourself will be getting wet, and seven times themselves will pass over you, until you know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind, and that to the one whom he wants to he gives it.

Thus the whole Daniel 4 prophecy has far greater application from this entire “microcosm” of Babylon versus Jerusalem intrigues, that span further to the Temple completion from 586 BCE to 516 BCE as the symbolism concludes for that era in full summarization. And adding emphasis is that as with the prophecy flow itself, Nebuchadnezzar’s gentile dating benchmark of 607 BCE is the start point of the prophecy “seven times” in 70 years also expressed upon the final divine permission of Babylon, expiring also in “seven times” as 70 years, as further demonstration of the whole prophecy import.

Enter the League of Nations Modern Nebuchadnezzar First Step* to World Government
(*first step of four; see [2])

And thus the theme of Gentile versus Jerusalem is fully set in this prophecy and extendable in the 2520 years “seven times” that just so happened to arrive into the first Gentile World Government designate system global presentation in the League of nations in 1914-1919—that is no accident!

The global stage of the grand finale eventual sovereign conflict between God’s Kingdom, and its ruling Christ, also required to assume Messianic Kingdom completion operations and final “King of kings” placement, and “King Priest” Kingdom-Temple Coronation in the future, is still fully set. It is all still fully valid in divine “seven times” warning, as a final 1260 days warning emerges in time, in the future, prior to complete “8th King” world government defiance in completed form, in the future, as Revelation 8-11 has a final fulfillment cycle, “two” “witnesses”, that is 2×1260 days warning=2520 days or “seven times” and the end of Gentile permission of earthly ruling authority forever.

(Daniel 2:31-35) “You, O king, happened to be beholding, and, look! a certain immense image. That image, which was large and the brightness of which was extraordinary, was standing in front of you, and its appearance was dreadful. 32 As regards that image, its head was of good gold, its breasts and its arms were of silver, its belly and its thighs were of copper, 33 its legs were of iron, its feet were partly of iron and partly of molded clay. 34 You kept on looking until a stone was cut out not by hands, and it struck the image on its feet of iron and of molded clay and crushed them. 35 At that time the iron, the molded clay, the copper, the silver and the gold were, all together, crushed and became like the chaff from the summer threshing floor, and the wind carried them away so that no trace at all was found of them. And as for the (Messianic Kingdom) stone that struck the image, it became a large mountain and filled the whole earth.

And thus as Daniel recalled Nebuchadnezzar’s dream for him, and concluded it as such in another dual fulfillment climax:

(Daniel 2:44-45) “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom (a new entity) that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; 45 forasmuch as you beheld that out of the mountain (God’s Kingdom) a stone (the new kingdom; the Messianic Kingdom) was cut not by hands, and [that] it crushed the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold. The grand God himself has made known to the king what is to occur after this. And the dream is reliable, and the interpretation of it is trustworthy.”

“Babylon” and “Nebuchadnezzar” becomes, again, as in Daniel 4, ultimately the symbol of Globalized “Gentile” Global Government “immense image”, as who the prophecy applies to as well, at its pinnacle “head of gold” location:

(Daniel 2:36-38) “This is the dream, and its interpretation we shall say before the king. 37 You, O king, the king of kings, you to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the might, and the strength and the dignity, 38 and into whose hand he has given, wherever the sons of mankind are dwelling, the beasts of the field and the winged creatures of the heavens, and whom he has made ruler over all of them, you yourself are the head of gold.

Thus that zenith “head of gold” at the top of the whole image, is the “King North” parallel of a whole world government. And so the full progression since the 1990 3rd United Nations presentation to the finale in Daniel 8:23-25 and Daniel 11:40-45 will also converge into final application into that Global “King of Fierce Countenance” and “King North” parallel of the synonymous “8th King” World Government, completed before the King-Priest designate, Jesus Christ, arrives for final Kingdom Coronation by God Almighty Himself, “in the Temple” completion of the future. And then the fur will fly on the “scarlet wildbeast”. But first Christ secures all global sheep as it all arrives into that final Daniel 12:11 final open salvation zone of 1290 days then active to an initial degree.

The stage is set, the Daniel 2 “immense image” merely needs to stand at Armageddon’s “place” (Rev16:13-16) as the full complete and officially stated World Government—the final gentile defiance at truly global “United Nations” scale in the future.

8th King World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Because Bethel will not divulge that SIMPLE SUMMARY, they are removed first in the process. (1Pet4:17) Bethel is removed first, because corporate Christendom goes down under full world government (Rev17:15-18), as their global scale, with all global religion, is too enormous to be concentrated on at this time. Bethel is the perfect place for a prophetic proportions judgment to occur, and that first and soon. (Dan8:13-14; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5; Rev8:3-5)

IT ALL WORKS! GOOD NEWS! The Bethel Time Machine mishap “Bad News” is GOOD NEWS in reality! Thank God through Christ and all His prophets for sticking to the purpose, come hell or high-water, as it still unfolds to Christ arrival, the thing it is leading to!

Sovereign Marker 1914 CE Revisited

And it will in time call attention to 1914 CE, once again (Rev10:11), once God “tramples” apostate Bethel (Dan8:13-14; Dan11:41), also in 70 years of post GB shenanigans since 1944 [1], and 40 years of their usurpation of real anointed Christian input in the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry since 1976 [2], for the illegal “in the temple” Reign of Error of the illegal Governing Body of Dictators since 1976 (2Thess2:1-12), as illegal as “gentiles” in God’s temple arrangement, soon to be “cut down” too, but those slick modern Bethel apostates (Dan11:32a; Dan8:12) aint coming back up. (Matt24:15; Dan8:13-14; Isa66:6; Zech3:1-5)

Thus Daniel 8:13-14 is the temple judgment and its phasing, timing (3.19 years minimum) and Bethel “trampling” events that will prove itself first, so Jehovah’s witnesses can be put back on track in time for the final warning. (Rev8-11:1-7)

Of course APOSTATE Bethel is not going to make anything easier or clarify a single thing, they are going to stumble people and beat sheep and their FELLOW slaves! It is all now Apostate Bethel lawless “business as usual”. (Dan11:32-35; 2Thess2:1-12)

But even with the erred event assumption (and subsequent dating 20 year error), it is still a valid 607 BCE DATE and YEAR, it is just the EVENTS that mark that valid date, needed clarification.

In reality it appears the subjugation of Jerusalem was no slam dunk and was a warning in those intrigues, as Jeremiah warned for 40 years, 5 kings of Israel from Josiah, to Jehoahaz, to Jehoiakim, to Jehoiachin to Zedekiah, and finally God had had enough. (2 Kings 24:2 marks Jehoiakim’s reign as the period of activation) Thus God delayed the exile and destruction as a fair warning period that could have been responded to, but was ignored.

(2 Kings 24:1-4) In his days Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon came up, and so Jehoiakim became his servant for three years. However, he turned back and rebelled against him. 2 And Jehovah began to send against him marauder bands of Chaldeans and marauder bands of Syrians and marauder bands of Moabites and marauder bands of the sons of Ammon, and he kept sending them against Judah to destroy it, according to Jehovah’s word that he had spoken by means of his servants the prophets. 3 It was only by the order of Jehovah that it took place against Judah, to remove it from his sight for the sins of Manasseh, according to all that he had done; 4 and also [for] the innocent blood that he had shed, so that he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood, and Jehovah did not consent to grant forgiveness.

(Daniel 1:1-2) In the third year of the kingship of Jehoiakim the king of Judah, Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon came to Jerusalem and proceeded to lay siege to it. 2 In time Jehovah gave into his hand Jehoiakim the king of Judah and a part of the utensils of the house of the [true] God, so that he brought them to the land of Shinar to the house of his god; and the utensils he brought to the treasure-house of his god.

(2 Chronicles 36:5-7) Twenty-five years old was Jehoiakim when he began to reign, and for eleven years he reigned in Jerusalem; and he continued to do what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah his God. 6 Against him Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon came up that he might bind him with two fetters of copper to carry him off to Babylon. 7 And some of the utensils of the house of Jehovah Nebuchadnezzar brought to Babylon and then put them in his palace in Babylon.

These Jewish exiles from the Jehoiachin batch of 597 BCE were considered by God to be within the “70 year” time limit of exile:

(Jeremiah 29:1-32) And these are the words of the letter that Jeremiah the prophet sent from Jerusalem to the remainder of the older men of the exiled people and to the priests and to the prophets and to all the people, whom Nebuchadnezzar had carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon, 2 after Jeconiah the king and the lady and the court officials, the princes of Judah and Jerusalem, and the craftsmen and the builders of bulwarks had gone forth from Jerusalem.

(Jeremiah 29:10) “For this is what Jehovah has said, ‘In accord with the fulfilling of seventy years at Babylon I shall turn my attention to you people, and I will establish toward you my good word in bringing you back to this place.’

Which was this same 597 BCE exile group:

(Ezekiel 33:21) At length it occurred in the twelfth year, in the tenth [month], on the fifth day of the month of our exile, that there came to me the escaped one from Jerusalem, saying: “The city has been struck down!”

Thus the exile start point could have, but does not have to have been concurrent with the destruction finale of 607 BCE JW “alternate reality” or the 586 BCE real thing. The actual Nebuchadnezzar based Babylonian dynasty timing, and the interference with the natural flow of Davidic kings, is more significant to the Daniel 4 theme, and to the spiritual theme it supports. It is not that there was necessarily more then 70 years of exile, it is that there is plenty of room to fulfill the “seventy years” of repaid Sabbaths in this context, meeting all the requirements and more at the same time, all in God’s jurisdiction of timing and oversight.

But now we also have the “Kingdom” and “Temple” destruction and restoration issue emerging in its related but offset timeframe to connect to the 515-516 BCE restoration events, to cap off the whole sovereign theme and prophetic development with even greater future significance than the current Bethel experiment in alternative reality.

Connecting to Temple Completion, in full Kingdom Significance

1. Kingdom.

In the Kingdom and Temple 586 BCE 70 year “seven times” connection to 515-516 BCE and Governor Zerubbabel’s Davidic line legitimacy, Jehoiachin (Jeconiah) was then the grand father of Zerubbabel by Zerubbabel’s father Shealtiel, Jehoiachin’s son while in captivity, as the Davidic line is maintained. It is an exile context marker as well, as is Jeremiah 29:1-13. (and Daniel 1:1-2, Ezekiel 33:21, Zechariah 1:12)

(Matthew 1:12) After the deportation to Babylon Jeconiah became father to Shealtiel; Shealtiel became father to Zerubbabel;

There is more proof Jehovah started to count his “70 years” exile before the Jerusalem destruction, and we can see others details when we look at ALL the “seventy years” prophecies—and a concurrent exile and total desolation is not required**[4]—they can be offset and still retain the truth! And they are offset to connect to the 516 BCE important Temple completion and Christ King-Priest significance of the future!

(Psalm 110:4-6) Jehovah has sworn (and he will feel no regret): “You are a priest to time indefinite According to the manner of Melchizedek!”  5 Jehovah himself at your right hand Will certainly break kings to pieces on the day of his anger.  6 He will execute judgment among the nations;

2. Temple.

And in the Temple connection of 516 BCE, and Joshua’s Aaronic connection of legitimacy as High Priest, Joshua was High Priest Seraiah’s grand son (killed in Jerusalem), son of Jehozadak, (Hag1:1-2; Zech6:11-13), as the Levitical high priest line is traced back to Aaron (1 Chronicles 6:1-15), all the way forward to Joshua, to the 515-516 BCE completion and coronation ceremony of the second Temple of Jerusalem.

Thus we have a truly legitimate and traced High Priest to then base the “King Priest” foregleam of Jesus Christ upon for the climax of this whole development since 607 BCE:

(Zechariah 6:11) And you must take silver and gold and make a grand crown and put [it] upon the head of Joshua the son of Jehozadak the high priest. 

Now by the Zerubbabel and Joshua Kingdom and Temple maintained pattern, the “King Priest” and Temple Completion issue was foregleamed in 515-516 BCE, with a direct overlapping connection to 586 BCE and the Jerusalem and Temple destruction dual event linking back to 607 BCE and Nebuchadnezzar’s 70 year domination beginning upon King Jehoiakim and the Davidic line’s 70 year disruption.

And thus that era wrapped up perfectly as detailed by Zechariah and Haggai and now strongly linked to those key prophecies from the same key event. Malachi’s further temple judgment prophecy (Mal3:1-5; Zech3:1-5) was in the last prophetic book in the Hebrew portion of the Bible, all leading to the Christ for that Jewish age conclusion set-up, now also tied in. Then the Christian and Revelation wrap up of John, from God, as Christ arrived as foretold, and will do so again, as foretold in all this whole story, upon the same sovereign and prophecy framework as laid there in 607 BCE, projected it all into modern times.

(Revelation 1:1) A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.

And Jehovah’s witnesses have the valid initial master pattern, the “first witness” (of “two witnesses”), merely being discredit by Bethel error and modern evils, and needing a clarification round once Bethel is sacked in the modern temple judgment coming (Dan8:13-14), as their modern foretold apostasy is fully deposed to also continue be fully exposed in the process (Rev8-9), minus their damage control “stranger’s voice” interference. (John 10; 2Thess2:1-4)

Now we can be totally and absolutely certain the validity of 607 BCE, which still holds, as 1914 speaks for itself in other ways, as WW1 led to the “8th King” world government designate system first presentation (of four) [6] and THAT is no coincidence. NOTHING changes, it just got stronger. 1914-1919 was a true “Gentile versus Jerusalem” demonstrative period of the same theme since Daniel 4!

The final “seven times” are 2520 days, are in the “two” “witnesses”. 2 x 1260 days = 2520 days, “first witness” 1914-1919, and the future “second witness” final witnessing to emerge from the Bethel apostasy judgment. (Dan8:13-14; Rev8-11) And that “seven times” must also complete and it will.

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In the meantime 607 BCE is good. 1914 CE is good as well, and re-affirmed by stand alone 1260 days prophecies, and the globalist King North/8th King events that saw the counter-Kingdom “League of Nations”, the very “Gentile” rulership entity, also raise its head as the 1260 days, in “TWO witnesses” two kingdom “witnessings”, will also end up being “seven times” as “October 1914” linked to “stand alone” 1260 day beginning December 1914-1918 to start the 1260 days first round.

But there is a final 1260 days for the “second witness” of the “two witnesses”. [3]
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It’s ALL GOOD!

Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, Revelation 11:2-3, Revelation 12:6,14 and Revelation 13:5-7 also manifested in 1914-1918, and 1914-1919 (Rev11), without any direct reliance on Daniel 4.

And those prophecies manifest again, as the final 1260 days to complete that “seven times” as 2520 days as Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, Revelation 11:2-3, Revelation 12:14 and Revelation 13:5-7 repeat parallel, while enroute to 8th King world government, and then the Christ arrival, not “the end” (2Thess2:1-2), but the final cycle of Revelation 8-11 and 15-16. [3]

That “seven times” in Revelation 11 “holy city” significance (Rev11:2), coming into full completion, is the finality of the warning and required Kingdom proclamation.

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy again with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

(Revelation 11:2-4) But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.” 4 These are [symbolized by] the two olive trees and the two lampstands and are standing before the Lord of the earth. (Zechariah connection)

8th King/King North world government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

THAT is the simple main point upon this whole very sovereign conflict theme.

Thus the 607 BCE “70 year” link to Cyrus, 537 BCE, and the offset 586 BCE “70 years” link to Temple completion and Zechariah, Haggai in 515-516 BCE significance, is all doubly “seven times” assured, as God opened the door by Cyrus (Isa45), and that set in stone Global Date of 539-537 BCE, and “70 years” Babylon “Gentile” rule symbol, ended as well.

Cool! All’s good!

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Prophetic Harmony Test Chart and Scorecard

*And, no Time Machine required.

 

Seven Times Detail Landscape – Seventy Years Graphic 607 BCE to 537 BCE 586 BCE to 516 BCE

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Seven Times Portrait

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Seven Times Seven Global – Color

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Figure 1 – Seventy Years and Offset and Global Sovereign Convergence

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[1]

1944: The Governing Body, UN Allied Apostate Leaders of the Implied “Wrong Condition” of Daniel 8:14
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/how-daniel-812-14-unright-condition-has-been-developed-by-the-profane-governing-body-since-1944/

[2]

1944 Governing Body Birthday—1914-1976 WTBTS Board of Directors Coup Finally Realized
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/1944-governing-body-birthday-19144-1976-wtbts-board-of-directors-coup-finally-realized/

[3]

Why TWO Witnesses?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/why-two-witnesses

[4]

All Seventy Years Prophecies:

Notice there is no exile and desolation concurrent requirement:

(2 Chronicles 36:21) to fulfill Jehovah’s word by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had paid off its sabbaths. All the days of lying desolated it kept sabbath, to fulfill seventy years.

(Daniel 9:2) 2 in the first year of his reigning I myself, Daniel, discerned by the books the number of the years concerning which the word of Jehovah had occurred to Jeremiah the prophet, for fulfilling the devastations of Jerusalem, [namely,] seventy years.

As we see Nebuchadnezzar’s dynasty was also going to be limited to 70 years as well:

(Jeremiah 25:11-12) And all this land must become a devastated place, an object of astonishment, and these nations will have to serve the king of Babylon seventy years.”’ 12 “‘And it must occur that when seventy years have been fulfilled I shall call to account against the king of Babylon and against that nation,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘their error, even against the land of the Chaldeans, and I will make it desolate wastes to time indefinite.

These people were in Jehoiachin’s marked exile, when God told them this:

(Jeremiah 29:10) “For this is what Jehovah has said, ‘In accord with the fulfilling of seventy years at Babylon I shall turn my attention to you people, and I will establish toward you my good word in bringing you back to this place.’

(Daniel 9:1-4) In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus of the seed of the Medes, who had been made king over the kingdom of the Chaldeans; 2 in the first year of his reigning I myself, Daniel, discerned by the books the number of the years concerning which the word of Jehovah had occurred to Jeremiah the prophet, for fulfilling the devastations of Jerusalem, [namely,] seventy years. 3 And I proceeded to set my face to Jehovah the [true] God, in order to seek [him] with prayer and with entreaties, with fasting and sackcloth and ashes. 4 And I began to pray to Jehovah my God and to make confession and to say:

(Zechariah 1:12) So the angel of Jehovah answered and said: “O Jehovah of armies, how long will you yourself not show mercy to Jerusalem and to the cities of Judah, whom you have denounced these seventy years?”

And thus the TEMPLE completion was also a priority for God to mark with 70 years as well, from the first temple destruction to 515-516 BCE.
[5]

King 8 Versus King 7—The New World Order to Capture the Old World Order
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/king-8-versus-king-7-the-new-world-order-to-capture-the-old-world-order/

[6]

Four 8th King UN Cycles to World Government1919-Future

UN 1. 1919 – Rev13:11-15 (Dan12:11 first fulfillment) as League of Nations after WW1;

A. International Bible Students Association (IBSA) explained as prophecy;

UN 2. 1945 – Rev17:8-11 as United Nations after WW2;

A. Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW) explained as prophecy;

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Unknown and unstated by UN NGO allied Bethel and Jehovah’s witnesses:
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UN 3. 1990 – Daniel 11:31b as United Nations “New World Order” Initiative after WW3 (Cold War) (Dan11:29);

A. Covered up by Bethel as UN NGO, not explained as prophecy by any religious group;

[We are Here…]

UN 4. Future – Daniel 11:45; Daniel 8:25; (Daniel 12:11 last fulfillment) as United Nations and World Government after 4th world tribulation/war cycle to come.

A. Not currently explained by Bethel in lieu of a premature “end of the world” deception. (2Thess2:1-2)

B. To be explained after the JW temple judgment desolation, purification and removal of lawless Bethel engineered subversion (2Thess2:1-4; Dan11:30-31; Dan8:11-13);

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[1]

Major Prophetic Milestones to Armageddon
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/the-end/major-prophetic-milestones-to-armageddon/

The Final Phase – Final Prophetic Cycle Periods and Sovereign Meanings
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/the-final-phase-final-prophetic-cycle-periods-and-sovereign-meanings/

8th King/King North World Government as Simple as Possible
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/8th-kingking-north-world-government-as-simple-as-possible/

Temple Judgment to World Government to Christ Arrival
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/temple-judgment-to-world-government-to-christ-arrival-revelation-11-and-daniel-12/

End Time Prophecy Coming Milestones To Christ Arrival – Now and of the Future
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/end-time-prophecy-coming-milestones-to-christ-arrival/

[2]

Four 8th King UN Cycles to World Government – 1919-Future

UN 1. 1919 – Rev13:11-15 (Dan12:11 first fulfillment) as League of Nations after WW1;

A. International Bible Students Association (IBSA) explained as prophecy;

UN 2. 1945 – Rev17:8-11 as United Nations after WW2;

A. Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW) explained as prophecy;

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Unknown and unstated by UN NGO allied Bethel and Jehovah’s witnesses:
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UN 3. 1990 – Daniel 11:31b as United Nations “New World Order” Initiative after WW3 (Cold War) (Dan11:29);

A. Covered up by Bethel as UN NGO, not explained as prophecy by any religious group;

[We are Here…]

UN 4. Future – Daniel 11:45; Daniel 8:25; (Daniel 12:11 last fulfillment) as United Nations and World Government after 4th world tribulation/war cycle to come.

A. Not currently explained by Bethel in lieu of a premature “end of the world” deception. (2Thess2:1-2)

B. To be explained after the JW temple judgment desolation, purification and removal of lawless Bethel engineered subversion (2Thess2:1-4; Dan11:30-31; Dan8:11-13);

Engineering “World Peace”

Engineering World Peace, Just Like Engineering World War—to Help Sell World Government

Original question:

Will JW Supposed “King North” Russia Take Syria?
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TSRPJ35AATA7UHH5S

Comment:

The problem with the Russian Federation is it is weak, as in the past there strength is greatly over estimated. Russia just lost control of the pro Moscow government in Kyiv which is now pro Western. The FSB was particularly ineffective there and elsewhere in Ukraine. This is a big loss for Russia. Things have not been going well for the Russian Bear. Worse they cannot live with sustained oil prices under 60 dollars. The economic slowdown in China and Europe are driving oil prices lower, this is very bad economic news for Russia. The truth is they could not even keep let alone take Ukraine which is directly on there boarder which matters far more to Russia than Syria.

Syria and Iraq are like Lebanon in which the previous imposed European nation states have dissolved. They have been replaced by a large number of warlords. ISIS is loathed by Iran, the Saudis, Iraqis, the Turks, the warlord Assad and virtually all other warlords. Pretty much everyone hates ISIS.

Turkey is the real one to watch, they are the critical power that will decide how things will go. The Turks have a modern well equipped million man army.

A weak Russia that wants to be great but physically can’t is the real danger. The other unmentioned threat is conflict is coming to Europe and Europe matters much more.

While it may be fun to indulge in fear manipulation by shoehorned religious fantasies on imagined current events this has nothing to do with actual reality.

That is all part of the “Global Play”.

World Peace Everyone!

1. Expect a HUGE “EPIC WAR” to nicely resolve into the final UN “World Peace” to pitch the World Government totality rising. (1Thess5:1-3; Rev11:7; Rev17:8-13)

2. Expect the EU and US financial meltdowns and transitions into globalist global-wealth pawning (Dan11:42-43), to be blamed on everyone but the Anglo-American globalist corporate and banking system.

A. The 8th King comes after the 7th King has fallen. [1]

B. King North comes into full power after King South becomes a “she” is subservient nation-state system. (Dan11:42-43)

World War is Engineered—World Peace Will also be Engineered—to Pitch World Government

Everything else is just the “global play” and the global distraction for the final cycle use.

What we know from globalism history research is the wealth and elite tier of world power has been puppeteering the nations for massive profits based on world war scale military spending. That PREPARATION is phenomenal in scale in pre-war planning and development required for such massive military multi-national events since 1914 and WW1.

This is aided by increasingly complex, expanding and globalized financial and investment markets and corporate NETWORKS to channel everyone and his mother’s nation-state monies and human resources to the military effort by fueling the global industrial and tech development expansion process, which is put on steroids come “world war” time.

The “Great War” “to end all wars”, or WW1 as it later got named and numbered after WW2, was a unique first example of the cyclic and formulaic use of such massive global-war efforts to re-engineer portions of the national systems, expand the industrial tech and central banking model, fully installing it into combatant and investment supporting nations, and then using it in destructive (WW1,WW2) or constructive phases of “world war” (Cold War (Dan11:29); GWOT).

The skinny is world war is as engineered as is any system, technology, weapon or logistics system that makes it all possible.

It takes intelligent planning to prepare for world war, with massive tech/investment profits, to implement in even more profit, to deploy as a war or world war for more profit, and to “reparation phase” at even more profit, as the elite war machine and its backing financial and investment network expands with the top, now trans-national, corporations that plan the war phases—globalist system profiting the entire time, in every world war cycle, as the national system goes down in debt, is what it means: Intelligent design, compounding cyclically, since especially 1914 and the use of WW1.

Thus “World War” is well engineered, and so will “World Peace” be engineered, by the selfsame globalizing “engineers”, come the time to sell everyone on earth the WORLD GOVERNMENT “global solution” after a good crisis and scare.

It is a global con game.

Russia and China elites are as “in on” it as the Anglo-American elites, it is all a global-elite-team effort. When the coming “world war” resolves after a few years, no matter how it may manifest hot, warm, or cold, and it will, they will all come out as the World Government UN Elite Kings.

No wonder they are all “in on it” (Dan11:36-39), some people do in fact “want to rule the world” FOR REAL.

Russia and China Very Nicely NATO Pre-Positioned

NATO Unified Combatant Command
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Combatant_Command

To see Russian and Chinese global pre-positioning for eventual Global NATO unification, all one has to do is look at the Global NATO Unified Combatant Command map** of planet Earth, to see what they are doing. The clue is NATO is already running their spheres of Anglo American empire power, but look at Russia and Chinese positioning**.

Now if one looks at the 6 NATO global commands**, we see how Russia (USEUCOM) and China (USPACOM) are very conveniently positioned in their own massive spheres of eventual NATO alliance and domination for the team world government effort:

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Think that is all “accidental” how Russia and China just so happen to be poised in their own enormous global domination sectors?

Global NATO Convergence into World Government
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/world-government-convergence-into-global-nato/

World War, Then World Government, Easy Peasy Japaneasy—Play the Nations Like a Fiddle

As we look at ALL the world war cycles, whether hot or “cold” (Dan11:29), THREE SO FAR, we know they ALL RESOLVED very conveniently into a UN “we must have world peace” pitch of the “image of the wildbeast” globalist elite world governmental nucleus in formation, ALL THREE TIMES!

We weren’t born yesterday folks; this is the FOURTH CYCLE coming up, 1-2-3-4, of just such a convenient global-formula cycle to push World Government and its “world peace” supposed objective.

So expect a final George Bush Sr. foretold “epic war”…

“Because the cold war’s battle of ideas is not the last epic battle…”

(UN General Assembly; October 1, 1990)

…expect it to run its massive course (Rev13:3; Dan11:40-41), and:

1. Expect a grand finale world war “sword stroke” (Rev13:3) with Russia and China as the focus “bad guys” (along with Islam/Iran for the “Global Crusade” effect)…

2. Expect Russia and China to eventually and conveniently “capitulate” by pre-planned design into a TRUE GLOBAL UN-NATO, and…

3. Expect the fourth UN global-presentation to be in “World Peace everyone!” (1Thess5:1-3) mode (Isa41:1), to then be the complete “Scarlet Wildbeast” “8th King”/”King North” world government system.

4. Expect that World Government to rebrand the UN and NATO in some nice Global Buzzterm “New World Order” “world peace for all” wholesomeness sales pitch, in a “sword stroke-to-healing” recovering post world war world government “ascension” (Rev17:8-13),

5. Expect the UN to seem to go down into an “abyss” of inaction, and then “admiringly” “revive” (Rev17:8) from that coming Global “Sword Stroke” to, all so very very conveniently and “admirably” “heal” (Rev13:3), and relieve everyone with great global hopefulness as foretold (rather than “WW3” “doomsday”), to sell their World Government and its 666 of allegiance to everyone they can (Rev13:15-18) at global scale. (Dan8:25; Dan11:45)

It Is All a Global Formula and a Con

A. Their “World Peace” is based on a global military NATO-centric monopoly, a “Supreme Global Court” “United Nations” for world peace and world government, and all the “participating” nations (Rev17:11-18), ALL of them, fully financially and militarily pawned into also a “World Government” sector of financial wealth control. (Dan11:42-43)

B. All the global elites in the Anglo-American system, the Asian system, and the Russian and European system are all already “in on it” since 1914 and “World War 1”, for this now predictable and foretold purpose: A final Global Government opposed to God’s Kingdom. (Rev16:13-16)

C. (That is also when Global “Babylon the Great” Religion is deposed. (Rev16:12,20; Rev19:1-2; Rev17:15-18; Rev18))

D. But that is the perfect and required time for Christ to also arrive. (Matt24:29-31; Rev11:11-12; Rev14; Rev19:11-21)

Kick the Super-Universal Lion

6. At that “world government” time, THEN EXPECT Christ to show up, when they are completed (Rev16:13-16; Rev17:8-13), stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11) and ready (Dan8:25; Dan11:45), for the real “World War” with the Kingdom of God and the Messianic Kingdom of Christ in the Daniel 12:11 finale Armageddon period.

In The Meantime

They have to run a fourth cycle.

Then they will engineer world peace, just as they controlled and engineered world war.

They are 1-2-3-4 predictable now, because this is the FOURTH time they will use the same cycle to pitch their UN Jalopy to everyone, UN1-2-3-4, but this time in true global authority and fully globalized “gathering” (Rev16:13-16) under complete global World Government reality. (Rev18:8-18)

Everything else in the Islam this, Russia that, blah blah distraction phase, is all to distract and freak people out and stress the nations with a mega-global-crisis “tribulation of those days” context, as they down the 7th King King South system to subservience instead, while, diverting the attention of everyone.

Then in climax form, they “all become friends” for the “world peace” “golden age of mankind”, as they highlight the World Government “solution”, as before. Predictable now.

But for now the Anglo-American elites (Rev13:11-15) and their pals in Saudi, Russia and China (Dan11:39, etc) can run the FINAL CYCLE as well prepared, and pre-planned, instead, not for “doomsday” that many will be hyped to expect (like JWs; 2Thess2:1-12), but for hopeful global healing (Rev13:3) into UN centered world government and its final “world peace” requirement. (1Thess5:1-3)

WHAT a relief everyone! (Rev13:3) We do really all love each other! ALL hail World Government! Hip Hip Hooray! (1Thess5:1-3 signal)

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And that is when we can expect God (Zeph3:8-9) and Christ (Rev16:17-20, Rev11:11-12 begins Rev14 final sequence), to literally “drop in” to the globally set World Sovereignty Arena, to become well warned before this occurs (Rev9-11), and as already long foretold, for this global sovereign confrontation OF ALL TIME! Arma-gedder-done by God and Christ! (Rev19:11-21; Dan2:31-45; Joel3:9-17; Rev11:15-18; Ps2; Ps110; Rev20:1-3)

(To aid this global nap now prevalent, this is why Bethel concealed the 1990 3rd UN event (Dan11:31b; Dan8:23), UN 1-2-3, actually enroute to UN1-2-3-4 (Dan11:31-45; Dan8:23-25).

That helps people NOT see the THREE CYCLES that >>>already ran<<< their FORMULAIC BIG PROFIT COURSE, for a UN “we need world peace” pitch primer. Instead the dated, yet still significant, WW1-to-League and WW2-to-UN has all gone to the back of the mind, so people lose sight of the UN1-2-3, and the UN1-2-3-4 reality as long as possible.)

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The Four UN Cycles

https://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/all-four-united-nations-presentations-are-foretold-in-bible-prophecy/

https://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/final-world-government-cycle-graphics/

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Comment: what makes you think Russia is the king of the north? is it because Russia is north of Israel?

King North Globalized System

I think the globalist forming world government system is “King of the North”. The nation-state global system is “King of the South”.

King 8 Versus King 7—The New World Order to Capture the Old World Order
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/king-8-versus-king-7-the-new-world-order-to-capture-the-old-world-order/

Everything else is a decoy and distracting “global play” in the nation-state “King South” global domain.

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“”The real King South and King North have simplified in meaning, yet the symbols have gone truly global in scope:

1. King South is the Global National System, or the Nation-State based “Old World Order”;

2. King North is the Anglo-American Globalist guided Globalization core Elite World Government System, or the Globalist “New World Order”;””

KING NORTH GLOBALIZATION TO WORLD GOVERNMENT
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/king-north-globalizationworld-government/

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USSR-to-Russia JW Decoy

The USSR of the past, and maybe Russia next, will be a “King North” hoax decoy for JWs…

Russia Framed as King North—The Purpose
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/russia-framed-as-king-north-the-true-purpose/

to make JWs think “the end is here brothers!” to be misled into various stalling intrigues “at that time”. (WT11/15/13; pg. 20, par. 17, #3)

Some others out there also consider Russia to be a possible “King North. JWs still think a national puppet power, actually of the “King South” global-national-system “play”, COULD EVER BE THE REAL “King North” global gold (Dan11:42-43) and eventual world ruler. (Dan11:45; Dan8:25; Rev17:11-18)

Of course the REAL “King North” is the 8th King final world ruling system of the future: World Government.

The “King South” Nation-State System “Play”

IN REALITY the national-conflict distractions are all just squabbling “King South” “old world order” system puppets, all politically puppeteered in order to run the globalist controlled “global world war play”.

Once the “world war play” “miraculously resolves”, it all eventually, very conveniently, resolves into the final true “King North” United Nations centered WORLD GOVERNMENT grand finale presentation (after the world war resolves), very nicely rebranded and re-packaged for “world peace everyone!” World Government.

The “doomsday” impression passing (Rev13:3), then inspires AMPED UP great global relief, hopefulness and acceptance of the World Government “World Peace” system, as per design and formulaic con. (1Thess5:1-3)

The Final Cycle “Global Play” of the Future

The US/NATO versus everyone and his mother impression and reality, is all just for the distracting effect of “the global play” to cloak the final cycle true intent—WORLD GOVERNMENT—as long as possible. It is all just a distracting diversion, but this one will be the biggest one, because not only is Russia potentially involved with China, the Iran “Islam” dimension is ALSO active.

So this is a unique global cycle preparing to run in a number of ways including nation-state debt pawning, massive global financial system “transition” and social unrest ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

This final cycle will be the “tribulation of those days” Global Doozy of a cycle for such “chaos” reasons to birth the “New World” “Order” from. All very predictable now.

The real King North is the Anglo-American engineered globalist super-corporate controlled system. Russia will have to join it, with everyone else.

8th King World Peace—Guaranteed
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/05/21/8th-king-world-peace-guaranteed/

8th King World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Because Bethel will not divulge that SIMPLE SUMMARY, they are removed first in the process. Bethel is removed first, because Christendom goes down under world government (Rev17:15-18), their global scale is too enormous to be concentrated on at this time. Bethel is the perfect place for a prophetic proportions judgment to occur, and that first and soon. (Dan8:13-14; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5; Rev8:3-5)

World War 4 to World Peace 4

Future Global War “Sword-Stroke” to Define UN Peace Keeping “Abyss” Impotence— Sets the Global Stage for the “Healing” “Ascension” of Full 8th King World Government

https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/future-global-war-sword-stroke-to-define-un-peace-keeping-abyss-impotence/

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Comment: Russia king of the north???

Did the wt or you reinstated Russia back to the king if the north ?

Just asking

I am speculating Bethel will, come JW coup time.

Russia is just a King South nation-state system puppet (Dan11:27b), in the meantime a JW decoy “King North”.

So I did that title to attract JW attention, then I can explain how globalization based globalist system world government is what “King North” really is.

The “8th” and final “King” parallel.

JWs are under the Bethel delusion that “King North” was the USSR. But when the USSR “failed” so did their “King North” potential. (Dan11:36)

Until the ops at Bethel are deposed, JWs will continue to be misled for capture***, instead, by use of the King North DECOY they are still accepting from apostate Bethel.

KING NORTH GLOBALIZATION TO WORLD GOVERNMENT
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/king-north-globalizationworld-government/

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8th King World Government Rise with 7th King Nation State Fall
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/world-government/8th-king-world-government-rise-with-7th-king-nation-state-fall/

King 8 Versus King 7—The New World Order to Capture the Old World Order
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/king-8-versus-king-7-the-new-world-order-to-capture-the-old-world-order/

8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/8-kings-why-the-7th-king-anglo-american-national-system-must-fall/

The End of National Sovereignty, Not The End of the World
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/the-end-of-national-sovereignty-not-the-end-of-the-world/

***Your Deliverance is Getting Near!—The Question is: Deliverance to What?
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/jwupdate/deliverance-to-what/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/watchtower-7-15-2015_your_deliverance_is_getting_near_commentary-on-the-bethel-jw-trap7.pdf