Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4

Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4

Individuals comprising the actual administrations and operations of the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry can repent, as can all Jehovah’s witnesses, in the purpose of the coming Temple judgment of Daniel 8:13-14. (Zech3:1-5) The question is will any of the former “Bethel” based Jehovah’s witnesses ministerial identity of that mundane tool, now apostate and UN allied as foretold, be used for the final warning ministry to form after the full recovery of the anointed Christian ministry by God and Christ?

“Bethel” is a term of the collective visible Jehovah’s witnesses ministry management utility, made up of a collective of global Jehovah’s witnesses individuals involved with the corporations, the “Worldwide Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, and its actual corporate functionaries and administrative systems as whole identified modern “established place” of the modern Jehovah’s witnesses Christian ministry.

Will God keep any of that now UN allied abomination? (Matt24:15; Dan8:13 “transgression causing desolation”) A final ministry will form in the final cycle of Revelation 8-11, but will it in any way, shape, or form, involve the former Bethel tool?

That is the basic question many Jehovah’s witnesses will have to ask themselves, in and outside of “Bethel”, when Daniel 8:13-14 erupts upon apostate Bethel as Daniel 11:41 in the future.

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Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4

Modern Bethel Apostasy

Bethel certainly has real BIG problems of terminal apostasy in its leadership, such as a UN NGO sponsoring deal. (Dan11:31; Matt24:15)

Unfortunately, the Governing Body Show has given some Christians actual valid reasons for leaving. (Matt24:15) Not all but some, but they are better of out of the JW organization whatever the reason. (Luke21:20; Matt24:15; Dan8:13; Dan11:41)—because HEAVY JUDGMENT is coming on the “Bethel” system.

There are Governing Body ( GB) based crimes, hypocrisies and truly anti-Christian policies and alliances that are dubious to the point God has to have also seen these MAJOR PROBLEMS, as some Christians with true Kingdom awareness have—which is foretold. For example, joining the United Nations of Organizations, is NOT in God’s approval, no matter how Bethel spins it, it IS Matthew 24:15 as Daniel 11:30-32a, and Daniel 8:12.

(The Daniel 8:13 Temple “TRANSGRESSION causing desolation” to the temple “established place” of Daniel 8:11.)

In fact men who claim infallibility between the lines, and set up a self protecting illegal Bethel Inquisition Judiciary to condemn men, brothers even in the GB and Bethel system for years, to what they threaten as a spiritual death of Gehenna in their own over-extension of well “beyond the things written” authority, are always exposed in time, BY GOD, just like the Pharisees.

This JW Reformer’s article is very telling in this matter, in a very simple manner:

Jehovah Blesses Obedience
by Meleti Vivlon  Sep 25, 2015

“”We are reaping what we have sown, and the reproach we were hoping to avoid has been magnified 100-fold by our failed hypocrisy.””

Contrary to Popular Belief, Bethel and its Governing Body are Subject to Divine Requirements and Judgment Like Anyone Else

Now the point is, to God, LEADERS are not given “Special License to Sin”, which they ALL claim between the lines, like the GB. The LEADERS are given TOP ATTENTION from God when He inspects a ministry. (Zech3:1-3; Isa1-12; Hosea; Micah; Amos)

And when God gets to exposing and judging REAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY in a Christian LEADERSHIP, that itself is based on a Babel and Christendom “governing body” concept—as if divine, no questions asked— when it is not Biblical in the least, it will be completely revealed in time—as is the case of HOW Bethel devolved into an illegal idolatry. [1]


So it is not that Jehovah’s witnesses “never had the truth”, it is that they DO have the truth, and so God WILL deal with the problem: The Governing Body of Apostasy and their UN NGO covenant with the UN, involving God’s people. (Daniel 8:13-14 as Daniel 11:41; Revelation 8:3-5)

It WILL get serious, it is no light matter, and it will PROVE this is Jehovah’s anointed Christian house (1Pet4:17), merely using a mundane ministerial resource “established place” (Dan8:11) “organized ministry”, that He WILL create ENORMOUS Judgment event upon FIRST, to wake up BOTH Jehovah’s witness and those paying attention.

“The Organization” and its so-called “Governing Body” have become one of these illegal idols in God’s eyes, and it does NOTHING to minimize, but only to promote, such a lofty place in Jehovah’s witnesses eyes. They even had the blasphemous audacity to declare themselves the “faithful slave”, playing seated “God’s”, in God’s temple arrangement by their OWN approval, rather than God and Christ’s by judgment first. (2Thess2:3-4)

And they have the premature “it can end any day brothers!” distraction well in place as well (2Thess2:1-2), to smokescreen final prophecy that can be explained in light of globalization development to culminate into 8th King World Government, to “ascend” and “heal”, upon the REQUIRED 7th King fall and “sword stroke” coming. (Rev13:3; Dan11:42-43; Isa41:1; Rev17:8-13; Rev11:7)

Most Everyone is in Denial in Their Own Way

Now true most JWs and most JW critics alike, do not want this to be the real reason why these Days of Jehovah’s Judgment are coming on Jehovah’s witnesses and the now idolized and UN profaned organization and ministry. (Zech3:1-5)

1. JWs want to think it is in the “right condition” since 1944. (Dan8:14)

2. Some JW critics want to excuse themselves from overall divine sovereign issue as Christians with this sovereign mission proclamation theme, so they want JWs to be invalid and the sovereign warning of 1914 off their backs, and to just do their ministry the way they want, particularly to its main sovereign message, getting lax on the UN reality as the Wildbeast forming to World Government—they want to deny that will come, and that that will trigger Christ.

A. Others simply are misled by all the controversy into the wrong conclusion as to what is really its cause at apostate Bethel.

And all of this is NORMAL for Adamic humans, especially when a Christian ministerial leadership becomes the hypocritical problem aiding the doubt!

Bethel is its own worst enemy and the number one global reproach of all the world as far as hypocrisy and lawlessness that aids the discrediting of the original Kingdom message of Jehovah’s witnesses, at both ends of its existence, from 1914 to today—Bethel is helping jackhammer the foundation and the final phase of the anointed Christian ministry within Jehovah’s witnesses ministerial identity by constant application of organizational “Golden Calf” idolatries, hypocritical alliances (UN NGO) and standards and codified globally public lawlessness sanctioned and blessed by Bethel’s Illegal GB Kings as silent (UN NGO) or stated policy (Child Abuse cover ups).

(Hosea 8:3-6) Israel has cast off good. Let one who is an enemy pursue him. 4 They themselves have set up kings, but not because of me. They have set up princes, but I did not know [it]. With their silver and their gold they have made for themselves idols, to the end that they may be cut off. 5 Your calf has been cast off, O Samaria. My anger has grown hot against them. How long will they be incapable of innocency? 6 For from Israel was even this. A mere craftsman made it, and it is not God; because the calf of Samaria will become mere splinters..

And by the events Jehovah Almighty God by Christ will bring on this derailed ministry (Dan11:41), and its GB Kings of Bethel, JWs can be freed and updated, and both groups, JWs and JW critics, can be awakened to the revived, updated and clarified final ministry that WILL form AFTER the Bethel Apostasy is dealt with in GLOBAL MANNER as decreed by God at Daniel 8:13-14. (Zech3:1-9; Rev8)

Bethel CLAIMS the Daniel 8:14 “RIGHT CONDITION” of the anointed “Temple” has been present SINCE 1944 [3], by a historic process of “organizational adjustments” that brought the congregations, branches and all of Bethel under the dictatorial rule of a “Governing Body” that went into Rogue Tyranny in 1976, against Nathan Knorr’s and Fred Franz’s wishes and stern advice! ON THE RECORD at Bethel and elsewhere; (such as Ray Franz’s book “Crisis of Conscience”, specifically chapter 4 details.)

1. THEY REBELLED in 1976 against the God set INDIVIDUAL ministerial spearheads since 1870.

2. They first peeped the “governing body” term in 1944, to a title in 1971, to a full dictatorship in 1976, to UN NGO in 1991, to today’s major GB based apostate problem with UN ties as the JW ministry has actually been in a downward spiral ever since 1944, very “gradually given over” as per Daniel 8:12 explicit apostate subversion prophecy. [4]

3. NOW the Temple “right condition” process they claimed was instituted under the post 1944 “right condition met” is actually what has formed the WRONG CONDITION in the anointed Christians ministry!

It IS what it IS: Foretold Christian Leadership Apostasy at Bethel! The Daniel 8:14 diametric “Wrong Condition” is what has formed instead in reality.

Face the Music—The Temple Judgment

NOW the real Daniel 8:13-14 must come on Bethel as Daniel 11:41, because it is PLAIN AS DAY what the Governing Body Experiment in so-called “Theocratic Organization” has led to: The DOWNFALL of the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry, temporarily, in apostasy, UN alliance and total spiritual drunken slumber. (Matt25:5; Matt24:48-51; Zech3:1-3)

And now, in time, Bethel AND Jehovah’s witnesses will have to face, and give an account of the real Daniel 8:13-14, and Bethel’s false claims it has all been already in the “right condition”, as engineered by historic “organizational adjustments”, culminating in that 1944 “right condition” claim, in the 1999 Pay No Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy book. [3]

The 1970s final changes brought the whole JW ministry and corporate complex under Governing Body dictatorial, no questions asked, infallible, unapologetic, rigid authority, to the point they found it advisable to even join the United nations of Non Governmental Organizations, rather than explain the Outreach UN NGO Division’s true UN objective: Get all global organizations acceptable and willing to adjoin to the UN as well!

NOW the REAL Daniel 8:13-14 is coming on Bethel’s head.

1. Will they repent in public full disclosure?

2. Or will they continue in blind denial?

3. Will God even offer Bethel repentance at this point in the development after the accounting “trampling” is completed?

These are questions Bethel, Jehovah’s witnesses and others will ask in future days, as the real Daniel 8:13-14 manifests as Revelation 8:3-5, as Daniel 11:41 in the future FINAL Temple Judgment Cycle required to prepare the final Kingdom Proclamation and Salvation awareness opportunity and warning ministry in the RIGHT CONDITION.


Can Bethel Repent? Part 2 of 4

Can Bethel Repent? Part 3 of 4

Can Bethel Repent? Part 4 of 4


Governing Body Since Babel


The Governing Body Experiment—1944 to Present

1944 Governing Body Birthday—1914-1976 WTBTS Board of Directors Coup Finally Realized


How Daniel 8:14 Wrong Condition Developed in Bethel Since 1944


Bethel Apostasy Foretold in Daniel 8 and 11

Daniel 8 and 11 Final Apostasy and 3rd UN Placement (1990) Connections and Parallels


Global Open Salvation—How Christ Completes His Own Ministry

5 thoughts on “Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4”

  1. Great to see your still here King North I’ve stopped my bible study with the witnesses because the hypocrisy and denial of world events and the Daniel prophecy don’t sit well with me. I know there are some genuine sheep in there and its not there fault but most are quite happy to listen to fairy stories and don’t seem to realise they are worshipping a golden calf maybe I’m wrong I don’t know but I’m going to keep on reading your articles even though I find it quite hard to understand I know Jesus wants me to grasp what you are saying I think its more for very advanced people in the truth but I will keep reading and prayer for better understanding of it thankyou .

    1. Final Prophecy Continuum (Gauged on Seven Trumpets by Temple Judgment Time, Takes More Than a Decade from Temple Judgment Time)

      I. Apostasy, Judgment, Accounting and Recovery of Jehovah’s Witnesses

      Now: JW inspection (completing or complete; Zech3:1-5; 2Thess2:1-4);

      Now: Bethel Apostasy and Lawlessness Signal of Judgment; (2Thess2:1-12; Zech3:1-3; Dan8:11-12; Dan11:30-35);


      1. “Tribulation of those Days” Context Begins; (Matt24:15; Dan8:13; Dan11:41 (now), 42-43 (soon); Dan21:1b); Sword stroke of Rev13:3 initial context Dan11:41-43

      2. 8th King Activates Daniel 11:42-45 Final Cycle; (Rev16:13-16; Rev17:11-18);

      A. Daniel 11:42-45 Must Converge with Daniel 12 Final Fulfillment;

      3. Jehovah’s Witnesses Temple Judgment Starts (1Pet4:17; Mal3:1-5; Dan8:13-14; Rev8:1-6; Matt25:1-13);

      A. Temple is Desolated, Purified (Zech3:4-5) and Recovered (Rev9): Daniel 8:14 “Right Condition” Temple Purification Reached; (Dan8:13-14);

      II. Recovery, Final Commission, Final Warning, Learning Application

      1. Final Kingdom Ministry Commission; (Rev9-11; Zech3:6-7; Matt24:45-47);

      2. Final Kingdom Invitation and Warning Deploys; (Rev9, Rev 11:1-6);

      3. “Tribulation of Those Days” Context Ends (Matt24:29; Isa41:1) into:

      A. Final Kingdom Warning Ceased; (Rev11:7-10; Dan11:44);

      III. Rival World Government Completions of 8th King

      1. World Government – National Sovereign Conglomeration Completes into 8th King World Government; (Rev16:12-16; Rev 17:11-18); BTG to be deposed before full “world peace” of 1Thess5:1-3;

      A. 8th King World Government World “Peace and Security” and World Recovery; (Dan8:25; 11:44-45; 12:11; 1Thess5:1-3 globally stated world peace sovereignty; Dan8:25 “freedom from care” parallel; Isa41:1 world recovery);

      2. Christ Arrival; Anointed Sheep Gathering, Earth Sheep Last* (Dan12:1, Matt24:29-31; 25:31-46; Rev11:11-13; Rev19:11-16; Rev1:7; Rev6:12-17);

      A. Christ Completes Messianic Kingdom 144000; (Rev11:11-12; Rev7:1-8; Rev14:1);

      B. Christ Messianic Kingdom King-Priest Coronation; (Zech4:6-9; 6:9-15; Dan7:26);

      (All the following takes place under complete Messianic Kingdom “Court” of Daniel 7:26:)

      C. Babylon the Great Deposed; (Rev16:17-19; Rev17:15-18; Rev14:8);

      D. *Sheep Gathering/Goat Determination Finalized; (Mat24:31-46; Rev14:14-20);

      3. Armageddon; 8th King Deposition and Messianic Kingdom Conquest; (Rev11:15; Rev19:19-21);

      4. Christ’s Messianic Kingdom 1000 Years Rule

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