December 2015

Comment 

> Hello,
> I just wanted to say that I find your replies/posts very interesting I have
> showed them to a few on-line acquaintances who can relate to what you are
> saying.
> May I ask were you a Bethelite at any point? Great to see many waking up and
> please continue with your posts they are full of insight and wisdom.
>
>
> Thank you

I put this reply here too, because it became long.

https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/misc/final-cycle-comments/final-cycle-response/

Response:

Your welcome.

I am glad others can see there is far more to this story too.

I was never a Bethelite, but I have been involved with the ministry since I was seven, but had the opportunity to drift off due to a divorce, as my mom was the JW connection for me, and she was very faithful to God and Christ, well beyond “normal”. (That was a blessing, because though I remained a Jehovah’s witness, I was not brainwashed with the deep org hypnotism. As you may realize, this will take an “outside in” viewpoint, yet with a thorough understanding of our original prophecy meanings and purpose, to know where they are diverting it, and why.)

[Note: This skips around a bit, so I say there actually is a “seven trumpet” structural framework into which all final cycle prophecy “registers”. And by the Daniel 2,7,8,11-12, and Revelation 13,17 structure of global power development, and the cross linkable supporting “seven plagues” and other prophecy details, we can know world government precedes Christ arrival—it will become the big ominous signal for many people, as it will be “scattered” in many layers of confusion. JWs fail first, that too will become an initial world signal, and what emerges from that initial judgment signal, will be telling. But know this, all forecasts must be put to the time test, ALL OF THEM, including this one. And so you know many many many errors will also “emerge”. But after the temple judgment of Daniel 8:13-14 proves itself, the rest will get easier as the 7th King must also fall in this drawn out, multi year, yet prophecy gauged, global process. The “tribulation of those days” is NOT “the end”, and neither is the Christ arrival, it is ALL OPEN FOR SALVATION—that is the point that has to be made in this process, as well.].

Positive Global Message—Open Global Salvation Opportunity
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/positive-global-message-open-global-salvation-opportunity/

Global Open Salvation—How Christ Completes His Own Ministry
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/global-open-salvation-how-christ-completes-his-own-ministry/

The luxury of me being a “weak witness”, was I could fly under the radar, and avoid the “organizational brainwash” at the same time, I never was “gung ho” on the org bull, to tell you the truth, but I did like the community of JWs, and the prophecy understanding. And because of that, I feel I can have a greater unbiased viewpoint, I am not anti-JW, I KNOW the problem originates with the GB device.

And for such reasons, my mom appreciated the org/ministry, but kept it in perspective, never once did she think they had the authority they claim to have today (even back then), she took them with a BIG GRAIN OF SALT! But NEVER did she doubt God and Christ and the Word of the Kingdom. And the org idolatry was nothing to the proportions of today’s “slow boiled JW frogs”. (And I had known some Bethel “insiders”, I actually was a Bible study of a semi-known Bethelite of today, from the mid 70s. So his father in our cong, always had little inside stories etc.)

Thus, though being heavily engrossed in the “theology” of prophecy reliably turning into history, and truly searching for a problem with the Bethel outline of the trek from Egypt to Anglo-America, and finding none, I realized this ministry has taken prophecy further than stalled Christendom’s mainstream. But now JWs are also stalled, and that kind of purposeful subversion is related, for the same reason. It merely took longer to ID the JW ministry aims (for the opposing system), and enter the ministry to continue the subversion of prophecy. (Dan1:32a, Dan8:12)

Thus Bethel’s devolution into apostasy is not good news, it means the whole Christian “corporate” controlled complex has now been checkmated. Bethel was just the last pea to suck back into the pod. But the good news is, Bethel’s massive judgment coming (Dan8:13-14), will open a far broader message to all of the Christian world, the remainder of which will remain in Christendom darkness, as their corporate complex has been subverted far longer than Bethel, and the mechanics of it are the same, and for the same purpose of covering up the simple fact of prophecy completing as world history, that COMPLETED WORLD GOVERNMENT, is the Christ arrival trigger.

Thus the recent Bethel derailment and stall (1976-today) intrigues, was at a point of initial maturity in the prophecy forecast to have the [future] potential of being recovered and completed along the UN 1-2-3-4 trek that is actually in prophecy to lead to that very eventual; world government completion in the eventual 4th UN event of the future, deep in the final cycle, yet to fully activate.

Of course Bethel has covered up the 1990 3rd UN event, went UN NGO to endorse it, and conceals all trace of the meaning of the Cold War cycle that resolved, as did WW1 and WW2, for that same purpose. The unique nature of the Cold War, as not quite recognizable as a true world war, hence one but “cold” in nature, helped that 3rd cycle fall off the radar of many people as well. (Daniel 11:29 actually notes that unique quality of the Cold War as being different, and so we know from that and other clues, Daniel 11:29-31 is that 3rd UN event (also Dan8:23), and the Bethel apostasy is that mysterious co-development in Daniel 11:30b,31a, and 32a; which Bethel plays off on Christendom, as Fred Franz error on King North, was well before these eventual marking developments had arisen, so it was just a common error, not an “inside job”.

BUT, keeping that King North=USSR error in place, just as Fred Franz fell off the radar watch in death, IS an “inside job”, hence Daniel 11:32a, at Bethel, to conceal that the real King North always has had to be the 8th King world government development parallel, which takes four cycles. That Cold War cycle was the third. So all thee Bethel anomalies since the 1976 GB coup days, to a UN NGO in 1991-2, to a total cover up today, is what Daniel 11:30-31, and Daniel 8:11-12 are all about: Bethel apostasy, is the final apostasy signal.

And as I stated a little earlier, because JWs exposed UN 1 and 2, in WW1, and WW2, this truncated 3rd UN to 4th UN stretch, could be reconnected properly, UN1-2-3-4. But they (the world government developers publicly manifested since the League of Nations) plan to resist that recovery with all their anti-JW and anti-JW-org might. (But in the prophecy, God also will resists them: Hosea 1:4-7; Isa31:8-9; Mic5:5-6; Rev9; Zech3:1-5; Dan8:13-14)

But that will be the turning point in the temple judgment, to recovery for final warning, and that is why Daniel 8:13-14 is specific in purpose, reason, and timing/phasing; (Dan8:26) The “specific” is the Dan8:13 “transgression [causing desolation]” is connected to the disgusting thing [causing desolation] of Dan11:31b, in relation to Matthew 24:15, in relation to an anointed Christian ministry that has publicly adjoined the UN NGO, which is UN Secretariat “Departments and Offices” based, UN DPI, under the UN Secretary General and its DPI council.)

Thus, do not be fooled, that UN NGO is HORRIFIC in purpose, as is Bethel’s “covenant” with it. (Isa28) And it is th signal to those not on the Bethel sleeping gas. So the accounting will be commensurate with the sin, on the only thing that has a publicly seen profile, the JW org, because the anointed Christian “temple” is invisible to human eyes, the Bethel system will be the “high profile” epicenter of the judgment. But like with Jerusalem’s judgments, of course many will be affected by the Bethel “Pharisee” treacheries—hence the Matthew 24:15 COMMAND to flee that apostate city (Isa66:6; Matt22:1-14)

Now when that 3rd sort of low key UN “New World Order” revamp mode manifested in 1990, it came with the fullest implementation of the UN NGO system present since 1946, but not to the level of “grassroots” distributed “intake” and “output” is today. Also make no mistake, the UN NGO “UN System” “affiliation partner” program is the largest organizational network on all planet earth, it is HUGE. And make no mistake, the UN System framework is GIANT, and its “UN Charter” is a chartered “mission statement” of World Government. And the “UN System” is beyond the scope of the “UN Organization” in “unofficial” supporting orgs, that will become very official through regional unions, like the EU, and NAU and TPP, etc, etc. (as the Rev13:3 final “sword stroke” heals)

Through those unions and “treaties” and “partnerships” is international scale, supranational, growing authority, using environment and “terror” to broadcast to all nations, to extend dominion by “legalized” means growing with TPP like “agreements”. Once the financial and world war lynchpins are pulled, the nation-state will topple into that “safety net”, and those Bilderberg and Tri-Lateral like scope of Corporate Matrices, are all UN supporting, as is Global NATO, termed as such 1999. The Global War on Terror put Global NATO on global steroids, as they have been preparing for a final global “sword stroke” in reality. Thus all the international scope true power systems, are enormous in hard wealth (10s of times larger that Global World Product), gold control, and debt ownership—they are the “Master Creditor”, the nation-state is the “Global Debtor”, it is Daniel 11:42-43 set up for first, global wealth control to 100%.

Daniel 11:42-43 Explicit in Coming 8th King Globalized Wealth Control
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-1142-43-explicit-in-coming-8th-king-globalized-wealth-control/

We are looking at very simple Bible math here. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, Kings. We are watching the setup of the 7th King downfall, same as the King South pawning of Daniel 11:42-43. Very simply put, the 7th King must fully fall before the 8th King goes into global world government rise. And in the UN developments in prophecy, it is UN 1-2-3-4. And “stands” 3 to 4 are in Daniel 8:23-25. And “place disgusting thing” Daniel 11:31b (3), and Daniel 11:45 “plant palatial tents” (4) as converged with Daniel 12:11 “place disgusting thing” is that 3 to 4 sequence. Daniel 11:40-45 merges into Daniel 12:11 “during that time” of Dan11:42-45 terminal processes (Dan12:1) (Of course the post 1990 UN activity is what Bethjel is actively, purposely, covering up, for this reason of the simple math involved. And Bethel is also covering up the 7th King require downfall, instead, they hype “it is the end!” among JWs, to simply bypass its meaning. So the GB are all CIA-like Masonic controllers, there aint a Christian among them, much less an apostle like anointing from God. Daniel 11:32a can’t be more specific that KING NORTH is who leads the apostasy and the source of profanation. (Dan11:31a, Dan11:32a)

(Daniel 11:32) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant (at Bethel), he (8th King/King North) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. (The Bethel “smooth words” 8th King cover-up in the JW publications is part of the smoothly justified apostasy);

So this is no joke, the “enemy is IN the house”, they have control of Bethel to lead JWs to capture under the false impression it is “the end”. (2Thess2:1-2) Hence why to flee as per Matt24:15. “Your Deliverance is Getting Near”, JWs just do not understand the thing they are to be delivered to, in Bethel’s attempt of the future. (Zech11)

Your Deliverance is Getting Near!—The Question is: Deliverance to What?
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/jwupdate/deliverance-to-what/

Daniel 11:41 is the anti-Christian purpose anointed “house” (1Pet4:17) “invasion” of “the land of decoration”, which we will be able to be seen in the Bethel JW org “invasion” events of their sacking, “soon, very soon”. (WT7/15/15) Bethel’s visible nature, allows an anointed Christian judgment, to eventually have a very high global profile of seen events. The “org” is nothing divine, just a tool as has been pen and paper and Christendom printing presses spewing out Bibles since 1500. All just tools, of real Christians mixed in the mix. BUT, visible event on the JW org, will provide connect of the temple judgment upon otherwise invisible Christian “temple” real, spiritual, context.

So this is a “generic” non-religious but “faith” forecast, because the final call goes to all, again. JW judgment is the epicenter for the first signal event.

(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God. 

Very simple, everything else from Bethel is ALL diversion to BTG, “end of the world”, Daniel 11:44 too soon, and so on, to define 2Thess2:1-2, to smokescreen JWs and to sack the JW ministry target.

Daniel 8:13 “trampling” permitted is in Dan11:41 context, due to UN NGO “transgression causing desolation” exacerbated by the illegal Governing Body whose “corporate religious” origin is from Babel, via Roman roots of corporate law, to today’s US corporate definitions that birthed the WTS “board of directors” who slickly assume the “governing body” veneer from 1944 to 1971 “Governing Body” title for the board label. 1976 dictatorship, 1991 UN NGO.

Note: Bethel plans to sell that Daniel 11:41 trampling as if Daniel 11:44 “attack”, to JWs, way way way TOO SOON, so they are smokescreened and OVER-ADVANCED into the prophecy. That supports Bethel’s main modern delusion, the premature end delusion of 2 Thess2:1-2. Everything else hi-jacked in JW prophecy, is also over advanced, and shuffled around, so that JWs expect the end too soon, and that is all hubbed on the premature BTG destruction delusion, as Babylon the Great will go down under full world government; as explicit in the “one hour” of Rev17:13-18, the same “in one hour” BTG judgment comes in Rev18. All prophecy “hours” in Revelation (8 of 11) are applicable that same “one hour” of complete world government (Rev17:13), or its terminal prelude. (Rev3:10), (Rev17:12, Rev3:10, Rev11:13, Rev14:7, Rev14:15, Rev18:10,17,19)

Bethel’s Armageddon Hoax Basics
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/bethels-armageddon-hoax-basics/

Next King North Hoax, Now “Gog” Primed For JWs
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/world-government/next-king-north-hoax-now-gog-primed-for-jws/

Russia Framed as King North—The Purpose
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/russia-framed-as-king-north-the-true-purpose/

(This is an outline of why BTG goes down under world government, full article is coming soon, so check back:

Babylon the Great Deposed Under World Government
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/11/26/babylon-the-great-deposed-under-world-government/

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That is why God put that “one hour” in Rev17:13 in regard to world government.

Now the exposure of the League of Nations after 1919, was indeed important, they are the nucleus group, of Anglo-American based elites, with international elite hubbing scope, who run all the big trans-national corporate systems which support the wealth control (Dan11:42-43 eventuality for Rev13:15-18) and symbolic finance system to empower global military and national government puppetry.

Thus the “world-war-to-world-government” formula is first used in WW1. And in that primary formula and global “sword stroke” cycle PRINCIPLE, is WW2, the expansive “Cold War”, and what we are going into as a 4th cycle. Now if you note the unique nature of the “Cold War” and Daniel 11:29, we see the GWOT partial yet stated “world war on terror”, merely termed “global war” “on terror”, is ALSO UNIQUE:

(Daniel 11:29) At the time appointed he will go back, and he will actually come against the south; but it will not prove to be at the last the same as at the first. 

Now true, we may have a “Cold War” phase 2, and a GWOT phase 2, branded for final effect, as “warming” up to “hot” final “global war” Rev13:3 “sword stroke”, it has all been unique and “different” in these last two cycles. In effect, the fourth world war in GWOT has started, but only in preparatory expansion mode since 2001, by the 911 pretext.

The Ultimate Global and Prophetic Sovereign Convergence

And that is why the ultimate “King South” and “King North” global systems simplify in final meaning, yet are truly totally global in scope:

1. King South is the global scale complete nation-state system, 7th King national system “Egypt” domain, “old world order”, required to be normalized and equalized into distributed multi-polarity required to be controlled by King North “8th” King, to “rule the world”.

2. King North is the worldwide globalization system, ultimately headed for total world government completion, as the “top of the world” overlord of the whole global system, the 8th King “new world order” domain, dominating the 7th King system “old world order”.

A. Thus the Revelation 13 historically developed national “seven headed” “wildbeast from the sea” is absorbed into Revelation 17 final 8th King “scarlet wildbeast” fully globalized final form.

B. The Daniel 2 “immense image” whole totality, the whole structure, is complete world government.

C. The “King Fierce in Countenance” also converges into that final global sovereign equation of global-sovereign culmination as a King North, 8th King, parallel.

That being the case, that is also why all world power converges into a single “8th King” global-system “world government” along with its final global-sovereign claim of “world peace” (1Thess5:1-3; Dan8:25 “freedom from care” in global recovery), as all of the prophecy that forecasts it also converges into that one totality, in a global recovery of global healing to highlight that very final global-sovereign entity.

Thus Christ arrival is triggered by that Globalized Final Abomination “disgusting thing” fully globally placed as all four UN presentations were leading to that Global Grand Finale the whole time. And as the “as though” “doomsday” impression in a severe final global crisis cycle transforms, by design and formula, into a great global phase of hopefulness, the world will be suckered the final time, in final form, to accept and celebrate the then incoming 8th King World Government “Solution”. (Rev14:9-11)
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Now on the final global “sword stroke” cycle, that “heals” (Isa41:1) into a world government highlighting presentation period, they want people, just like JWs, to think it is “doomsday”, “the end”, BUT it is NOT “the end”:

(Luke 21:9) Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disorders, do not be terrified. For these things must occur first, but the end does not [occur] immediately.”

(Matthew 24:6) you are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.

Nope, it is not the end yet, as long as active war is occurring, and its obligatory “disorders”. Of course it is easy to see now, the 1Thess5:1-3 “peace and security” is the time of UN centric “world peace”, under full world government, when the real end comes.

Inverting Matthew 24:6, Christ could have said this “you are going to eventually hear of NO wars and NO reports of wars; see that you are awake. For these things must take place to full world peace and security, then the end will come.”

So, if a “peace and security” manifests [before] full world government, like in modern UN developments, DO NOT BE FOOLED, they want to fool all Christians. They KNOW more than just JWs are waiting for 1Thess5:1-3. So, they will, imo, provide the hoax of 1Thess5:1-3, so people think, what develops after that fake “peace and security” statement, MUST be “the end everyone!!!!”

But it is a ruse, if they use it. The real world “peace and security” is the same as the Daniel 8:25 “freedom from care”, a global sovereign UN World Government global proclamation of “world peace”.

The TRICK here:

(Revelation 13:3) And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration

Is that the “slaughtered to death” is AS THOUGH “slaughtered to death”, just an IMPRESSION of doom, not actually “slaughtered to death”. The world war is the cycle, a global “problem”, to promote “doomsday” fateful thinking, so that when they “heal”, the psychological relief can be directed to “admiring” the “solution”:

(Revelation 17:8) The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world.

Thus the UN must fail, (as planned in this cyclic formula) and allow the final global “sword stroke” for that prelude global-psychological effect and to define their future “abyss” plunge. But they “ascend” with the “sword stroke” “HEALING” global recovery simultaneously, as the great “end of the world” “doomsday” impression, transforms to great global hope, “peace and security everyone!”, as GLOBALLY amplified as was the doomsday impression that aided it, to sell everyone world government. (Rev17:8-18 whole full sequence)

8th King World Peace—Guaranteed
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/05/21/8th-king-world-peace-guaranteed/

8th King World Government Rise with 7th King Nation State Fall
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/world-government/8th-king-world-government-rise-with-7th-king-nation-state-fall/

King 8 Versus King 7—The New World Order to Capture the Old World Order
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/king-8-versus-king-7-the-new-world-order-to-capture-the-old-world-order/

8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/8-kings-why-the-7th-king-anglo-american-national-system-must-fall/

The End of National Sovereignty, Not The End of the World
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/the-end-of-national-sovereignty-not-the-end-of-the-world/

And as we see, the nations “regain power” BEFORE “the judgment”:

(Isaiah 41:1) “Attend to me in silence, you islands; and let national groups themselves regain power. Let them approach. At that time let them speak. Let us come up close together for the judgment itself.

And that is how it is the unlikely hour:

(Luke 12:40) you also, keep ready, because at an hour that you do not think likely the Son of man is coming.

Now look around you, look at JWs and that “Your Deliverance is Getting Near” picture, and the “Gog of Magog” picture, with active war in the background, completely CONTRARY to Matthew 24:6 clue. MANY are expecting Christ to arrive in the heat of war. But he is arriving in the upswing of recovery. As noted in Matthew 24:29, Christ does NOT arrive until AFTER “the tribulation of those days” resolves on its own, by design! It is the “as though slaughtered to death” period, that recovers into “healing” and world government, FIRST.

And that is why Christ arrives at that key juncture.

(Matthew 24:29-31) “Immediately after the tribulation of those days (That tribulation ends, the 1260 days ends; Rev11:7-10 conclusion timing just prior to Revelation 11:11-12 event parallels) the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (the whole sovereign structure of world rulership is changing. Rev6:12-17 parallel) 

30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. (Rev11:11-12 parallel)

31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound (7th trumpet related immediate prelude of Messianic Kingdom completion, “in the days of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet”. Rev10:5-7), and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds (of that final “great tribulation” phase), from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity. (both “sheep” groups heavenly and earthly);

And if we notice, there is NO “end” there, much more takes place first!

Christ arrives to SAVE PEOPLE FIRST! And thus the Revelation 14:1-8 salvation sequence, is after Christ arrives, as Matthew 24:31 parallel, all the way to Rev14:14-16. The basic meaning of Babylon’s (the Greats too) downfall, was to LIBERATE CAPTIVES! Not just the Jews, were freed by Cyrus crushing the Babylonian monarchy. BTG going down will put some final sheep out for the Christ global “sheep sweep”.

So this salvation of Christ completing the very ministry he started:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

Has to be going forth during the BTG downfall to lead to this announcement:

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

This “tenth” is saved as and after the BTG “city” goes down, under world government:

(Revelation 11:13) And in that hour a great earthquake occurred, and a tenth of the city fell; and seven thousand persons were killed by the earthquake, and the rest became frightened and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Thus there are many who will remain stuck in the religious enslavement system. Bethel going down actually first, will give a snapshot “microcosm” picture of what is required to free people, in that case JWs, from enslavement. The only way to get through to the JW survivors, will be to crush their city:

(Isaiah 66:6) There is a sound of uproar out of the city, a sound out of the temple! It is the sound of Jehovah repaying what is deserved to his enemies.

But downing Bethel, allows a broadened salvation message to occur:

(Matthew 22:7-10) 7 “But the king grew wrathful, and sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. 8 Then he said to his slaves, ‘The marriage feast indeed is ready, but those invited were not worthy. 9 Therefore go to the roads leading out of the city, and anyone you find invite to the marriage feast.’ 10 Accordingly those slaves went out to the roads and gathered together all they found, both wicked and good; and the room for the wedding ceremonies was filled with those reclining at the table.

Thus make no mistake, MORE ANOINTING OF CHRISTIANS, must occur, because Bethel “five fool virgin” HQ, will topple “five foolish virgins” worth of Christian fall out. And this temple judgment, is this awakening event:

(Matthew 25:6-7) Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on your way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 

Now all “virgins” are awoken and scrambling, but not all will be able to properly explain, “enlighten”, the matter of the arrival of the Bridegroom, Christ.

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And this is why this forecast, is very very “long range”, because God’s goal is SALVATION well well beyond the “salvation constriction” JWs are now in. And JWs going down, will allow quite the event to wake people up, as will the intensifying world situation:

(Haggai 2:7) “‘And I will rock all the nations, and the desirable things of all the nations must come in; and I will fill this house with glory,’ Jehovah of armies has said.

Now I talk to a lot of non-JW Christians, and I just focus on non-polemic truths we can all agree on, like world government trigger of Christ, and the BIG OPEN SALVATION as the ultimate objective and purpose of Christ’s perfect human atonement sacrifice. Christ will EXPEND MORE EFFORT, sealing the purchase merchandise (Rev14:14-16; Matt25:31-40), than he did paying the price in the first place! And what a “price” he paid, and great effort he expended, did he not? Who are we trying to kid! LOL, OF COURSE Christ will assess all he can, for salvation, even some who never read Matthew 25, as those “sheep” questions reveal, they are newbies, they are “on the spot” “sheep”:

(Matthew 25:37) when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty, and give you something to drink? 

Job example, and Paul already covered this truth of big salvation:

(Romans 2:12-16) For instance, all those who sinned without law will also perish without law; but all those who sinned under law will be judged by law. 13 For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. 14 For whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15 They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or even excused. 16 This will be in the day when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare.

As long as people are not 666 predators, they will be saved, they are “the very ones”. Now if, as in the example of Job, and all mankind, if Satan is testing all mankind, then God is also assessing all mankind for the outcome. If Satan is trying to take all mankind, God will sift the sheep and wheat of all peoples, and save whoever he “has mercy upon”, he too already “paid the price”, that was His Son who made the purchase “life credit”!

(Matthew 13:38) the field is the world

(Romans 9:14-16) What shall we say, then? Is there injustice with God? Never may that become so! 15 For he says to Moses: “I will have mercy upon whomever I do have mercy, and I will show compassion to whomever I do show compassion.” 16 So, then, it depends, not upon the one wishing nor upon the one running, but upon God, who has mercy.

So God has the purchase, the “generic” meaning of buying the “whole world””…

(1 John 2:2) And he is a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins, yet not for ours only but also for the whole world’s. 

…and He can apply it to even future potential “sheep”-like cooperation with “love of neighbor”, because that is how many will be saved, they will look out for a neighbor, as Christ put it in the related principle the “least ones of my brothers”, which has a principle that those observing the first command, even if they “do not have law” as in do not know they are observing it, but “demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts”, they can be saved.

And that keeps the judgmental attitude off our backs as well, we do not need to add to the divisions and judgmental nature of the Christian house, but as in Matthew 25:1-13, we don’t “compromise” the light source in that oil. We know not all will make the sheep cut, and ATTITUDE is what God will look at, plain and simple. We want to have a merciful “yes, yes” attitude, but of course be discerning for the deceiver’s tricks.

So we need NOT get overly biased on JWs, or on other Christians, because the message has to be broad, and thinking JWs are 100% wrong, is not the open minded approach, all Christians have some truth, but JWs did take it further, as purposed by God. The initial validity can be recovered. [1] How God does it is not known fully, so we have to be awake and open minded, yet discerning as to fake “virgins” and premature errors.

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So I bet the farm Daniel 8:13-14 will prove itself. I bet the farm it will activate as Revelation 8:3-5, activating all of Revelation 8-11, again. I bet my life Bethel apostasy has been condemned by God, will be judged, silenced, and FULLY GLOBALLY exposed, and the GB will be nailed as the main culprit and tossed in the dump of eternal infamy by God. It has been illegal from first peep in 1944. And how God recovers it, is up to Him yet to be seen, but repentance is required, and getting honest and truthful as well for all of us. But it is no overnight affair, JWs go down like Jonah, but their three days, is three years of Daniel 8:14 “evening” phase 1150 days.

Modern Sign of Jonah – Jehovah’s Witnesses Going Down for Three Years by Bethel Global Organizational Intrigues
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/2014/11/30/modern-sign-of-jonah-jehovahs-witnesses-going-down-for-three-years-by-bethel-global-organizational-intrigues/

The “ten virgins” parable, like some others, is a parable that parallels the temple judgment prophecy meanings:

Ten Virgins and Temple Judgment
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/ten-virgins-and-temple-judgment/

Of course those who think God has judged nothing since 70 CE and Jerusalem’s downfall, are not going to see why PARABLES parallel PROPHECY for added detail! JWs tried hard to make the 1914 judgment period known, with its basic themes and meanings, and those themes and meanings now repeat on JWs bullseye, FIRST! AGAIN! in the same theme of apostasy and cleansing required.

Revelation—Its Grand Climax at Hand! Commentary – Revelation 8 Meanings Must Replicate to Final Fulfillment

Comparing the Christendom Judgment of Revelation 8 First Fulfillment to The Bethel Judgment of Revelation 8 Final Fulfillment
Background to the Revelation 8 Final Fulfillment on Jehovah’s Witnesses

https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2014/05/17/revelation-its-grand-climax-commentary-comparing-the-christendom-judgment-of-revelation-8-first-fulfillment-to-the-bethel-judgment-of-revelation-8-final-fulfillment/

Just because Bethel and JWs went UN BAD, does NOT mean everything in Christendom’s master corporate controlled apostasy pod is hunky dory. What it means is, it has ALL gone BAD! ALL OF it! One has to leave religion now, to “find God”. Corporate control of religions is for the subversion of the whole. Just as corporate control subverts national governments, so too in the religious “harlot” sector. Bethel is just the “new girl on the street”, fresh meat at UN Boulevard and 666 Street, under the globally seen “street lights”, primping, pimping and strumpeting naive JW bimbos for the UN NGO boys.

Final “Seven Times” Formula

Now the “seven times” principle is valid—and it has extended applications into Daniel and Revelation’s “3.5 times”. Bethel has a dating/event error in 607 BCE, it is 586-587 BCE Jerusalem destruction. But the chronology can be clarified.. As per Daniel 4, and Daniel 2, BABYLON and Neb’s dynasty is the “seven times” SEVENTY YEAR first marker—it is YOU, O king—you yourself are the head of gold—and he, Babylon under Neb dynasty, ascended from 607 BCE, as at the least Crown Prince. So, 607 BCE is still good, it just got confused in the event that marks it. (But that is another thing to talk about, it will come out in time, but in can be explained and still keep the 607 BCE validity, but defined by Babylon, who was the chief player in the prophecy, so this wraps it up fully)

(Plus, as hoped to be explained soon, it fingers the 1976 GB problem, and their unlawful expulsion of Ray Franz, as why they also covered up what he and Olof Jonsson were starting to put together. They also back stabbed Nathan Knorr and Fred Franz in this cover up, so I do not accuse everyone, but some were now obviously King North intel ops, preparing Daniel 11:31-32a developments of Bethel full blown apostasy)

BUT, there is another “seven times” formula!…Ever look at the “3.5 times”, the 1260 days prophecies, and thought it looks incomplete? 3.5 times? “time, times and half a time”???

Well, THE POINT IS the “seven times” principle connects to Revelation 11 and Daniel 12:7, many know about the “time, times and half a time” of 1260 days and 42 months also related Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, Revelation 11:2-3, 12:6,14, 13:5-7.

Now “3.5 times” is an INCOMPLETE hanging number. Until you DOUBLE it, then you et 7 times, complete, well known meaning.

So, the “seven times” have been staring us in the face at the same time. The 3.5 times must REPEAT, to become 7 full complete “times”. Thus all of those prophecies and Revelation 12:14 portion, repeat. 1914-1918 was indeed a valid “first witness”, a 3.5 times, BUT there is to be one more, to make 3.5 + 3.5 = 7 times, 2520 days total.

God requires “two witnesses” to establish this sovereign matter, “you must prophesy again”; (Rev10:11) And that is why there are “two witnesses”, each of 1260 days, one past, the other coming, after Bethel goes down, and down they will go in Rev8, Dan8:13-14, Dan11:41. But this will be in the most massive global upheaval “cycle” we have ever seen, the very “tribulation of those days” fullness, just beginning, at that time, the final cycle, but it resolves for the world government purpose—guaranteed in the prophecy outline also activating WITH the Revelation 16 “seven plagues” global context.

Thus, however this unfolds, God will also “recover” His “second witnessing” when and where and how He purposes (Rev11:3), to give full warning BEFORE world government completes, because they will trigger God and Christ, it is that simple, BUT they will be fully warned beforehand.

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

THAT is the simple main point.

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So, I tell you this, do not over correct. Don’t end up tossing the Baby with the bathwater in regard to 1914-1918 and that first world government cycle and first step of 4 to eventually complete world government, their defiant goal. [1] That first cycle, is the principle “master pattern” cycle formula (world-war-resolves-for-world-government) of what they are up to, and it being exposed as prophecy is the truth. But they have a final cycle, upon the very same pattern!

The Bethel hypocrisy aided discrediting of 1914, and the whole JW ministry, is a by product of their apostate purpose for King North. (Dan11:32a)

Playing the Hand to Soon

Now MANY out there, will apply the 1260 days TOO SOON as well. THAT is why Daniel 8:14 timing and purpose runs first. It is a cryptic prophecy, it can be 3.19 years, but probably 6.38 years, I hope not 12.77 years, but who knows, we need to pay attention to the Bethel downfall events. But in that timing, many “false Christs” will add to the confusions, with the wrong “oil”. Eventually, in Matt25:1-13, the fool virgins did come back, but it was too late, and that shutting the door, is on the final anointing meaning. There are “sellers of oil” out there.

(But that is NOT the final affirmation sealing, which MUST COMPLETE THE FINAL WITNESSING for affirmation seal! THAT is the whole point of that mission of Revelation 10:5-11, Zech3:4-9, and Matthew 24:45-47. It’s completion, provides final approval, and hence final affirmation sealing.)

The seven trumpets are alarms for SALVATION, not doom. It is OPEN SALVATION for the whole period of 1260 days and 1290 days (Dan9:27a) as Christ arrives in the, active to some degree, 1290 days of Daniel 12:11. Revelation 11:7-10, give the dual criteria of Daniel 12:11, “remove constant feature” of that FINAL clean warning, and the placement of world government “ascended”. That “3.5 days” “two witnesses” “death state” is the last segway to expire in symbolic terms prior to Christ arrival, and it must span into Daniel 12:11, because it is AFTER “they have finished their witnessing” of 1260 days. (Rev11:3)

What has thrown some people off, is thinking the seven seals “open” as events of the future.

They were “opened” to Christ already. (The are the whole Revelation meaning. When Christ delivered the Revelation of God, to John, he did not yet KNOW what it all meant:

(Revelation 1:1) A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. 

(Revelation 5:3) But neither in heaven nor upon earth nor underneath the earth was there a single one able to open the scroll or to look into it.

In time, Christ was given full understanding by God’s appointment to completion:

(Revelation 5:4-5) And I gave way to a great deal of weeping because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to look into it. 5 But one of the elders says to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

So the “seals” are the “sacred secrets” of Revelation, that Christ had to be given understanding of first, by God Almighty who knows it all, for the final two witnessings.

The seven trumpets in the seventh seal, is the REAL EVENTS and the sequence they unfold in. Those who think the 6th seal events all are in action in the world, as the “seventh seal” opens to the “seven trumpets”, are of course over advanced in the prophecy, by that simple error of trying to explain the seals as the literal final sequence.

The sixth seal, is actually future events, already understood by Christ, that parallel the >>6th trumpet<< enveloping Revelation 10 and Revelation 11:1-13. The Revelation 11:11-12 Christ arrival parallel, deep sixth trumpet, is that Revelation 6:12-17 six seal parallel, also Matthew 24:29-31. BUT it happens in the world, literally, in the sixth trumpet, NOT in the “seal”, which is an unsealed secret of God, that Christ ALREADY has opened to him, hence the whole Rev4-5 ceremony.

The seals are sacred secrets of God, that Christ alone was worthy to access in Revelation’s MEANING. The seven seals are not an earthly sequence, but they do contain the outline of the final sequences, as defined as realities of the seven trumpets, which of course came out with the seventh seal understanding, to Christ, first, for the full Trumpets 1-7 final cycle sequence of the future. Thus, it is the seventh seal seven trumpets, that are the global sequence to start with the temple judgment as Rev8:3-5. So, to prove this, just keep your head, do not fall for the doomsday thinking, and you can watch many try to say the 1260 days has begun, but it will be way too soon, like Bethel’s forecast, they will fail later, but also by premature expectations

That is why God will run the Daniel 8:14 timing, to burn out all the bad oil, and when it is in full God approved truthful form of Revelation 10:5-7, God will commission the final warning as per Revelation 10:8-11, parallel Zech3:6-9, Isaiah 6:6-9, Matt24:45-47 “faithful slave” [[designate]] mission. Notice those commission are after the Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment “right condition” purifications of Rev8, Zech3:4-5 paralells, as shown in Isaiah’s precommission cleansing:

(Isaiah 6:6-9) At that, one of the seraphs flew to me, and in his hand there was a glowing coal that he had taken with tongs off the altar. 7 And he proceeded to touch my mouth and to say: “Look! This has touched your lips, and your error has departed and your sin itself is atoned for.” 8 And I began to hear the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I proceeded to say: “Here I am! Send me.” 9 And he went on to say: “Go, and you must say to this people, ‘Hear again and again (two witnessings)

Thus everything that needs to be worn out and set aside, will occur in that ever important Daniel 8:14 timing. I cannot prove that, I can only say observe its timing and meaning, as this plays out.

(When visible Bethel, JW org, takes a huge hit of some sort, and or cancels the now profaned JW “constant feature”, mark your Daniel 8:14 timing calendar)

I believe God is going to let this final cycle play out to the full, to the skin of the teeth, all the way to and after World Government, because in reality, more people can be saved the bigger the events, and the longer it plays out. Plus, ALL FALSE PROPHECY applications, inspired by prematurity, will FAIL! ALL OF THEM!!!

But overall, we are at the Christ arrival, even if 10 or so years, even 19 (with that 2034 speculation in relation to Gen6:3), big event milestones will warn of his arrival, full warning will be given even before world government arrives, because it arrives first. Any one knows, in time, ten years flies by like a day. It is truly the Christ arrival epic period we are entering, and it will run the full course, to SAVE many people, “all sorts of men” by shaking them awake. (Hag2:7)

The trick of the enemy system is to be a step ahead, to present their decoy first, in false prophetic applications, provided by sold out Christendom corporate complex, every step of the way in its BTG aiding trek to 666.

World Government and Premature “Fulfillment” of Prophecy
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/05/world-government-and-premature-fulfillment-of-prophecy/

Now this forecast of course will also be put to the reality of the final cycle test too. I say that, before I say this.

Now the REAL DELUSION is NOT 1914, it is MODERN, it is the Bethel “it is the end!” smokescreen of TODAY that defines 2Thess2:1-2 NOW! They want to use that mental paralysis to keep JWs spiritually catatonic, putting off checking prophecy against all globalization news, and Bethel’s truly horrid apostate condition.

Now I am not attacking guys like Robert King and “Joshua Stone”, etc, I have no idea their true motives. But I do KNOW this “operation of error” is in JW ministry leadership, and it MUST have external errors also developing from the same source, to trap wandering JW sheep at point B, C and D. Those external errors can be purposeful or accidental, I cannot say who is who here, but the reason I think they are errors, is due to premature expectations of the end as well, and not seeing the open salvation final call that must emerge in this process, to the full.

Anyone can imagine the strategy of such an internal to external “delusion” complex. So, for whatever reason, the forecast here is King and others, imo, will also fall off the same cliff of premature expectations and incomplete analyses, merely occurring after Bethel goes down—but for the same principle reason of playing the hand too soon. BUT, the whole corporate Christian media forecast will also fail in their various raptures expected too soon, in those playing that hand. The purpose overall, is to discredit ALL Christian prophecy, while still hi-jacking it to cloak the world government decoy, as one thing, leads to the next “damage control” spin, and on into world government, and the obligatory finale physical “Israel restoration” prop event. Anyone with Google can see the Rothschild camp (with the Anglo camp), is who has been “restoring” Israel the whole time since the Balfour Declaration.

“His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

But overall, that is what I see from their various errors in the outline of the final cycle, premature thinking based, and not seeing the BIG SALVATION BLAST of those first six trumpets. Those Trumpets are FOR SALVATION! Why alarm people of irreversible doom in “trumpets”? No, the Trumpets are symbolic of spiritual alarms before things get to that degree!

Nothing personal against other forecasts, I just think many will play their hand too soon, and they do not see how required the “second witness” is…

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.” (That is no “again” accident!)

…and how it completes the 2520 days “seven times” assurance, 2 x 1260 days = 2520 days, “2 witnesses” X “3.5 times” = “7 times“. Many in error now, may very well come on board of that second witnessing, for the purpose of JW and other failures, is to REPENT and get with the final commission (Matt25:1-13), when GOD, not men, CAUSES IT to manifest, and He most certainly and assuredly WILL!

(Revelation 11:3) And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.” 

And that will have happened twice, by the second witness of the future.

Now given the state of this house now (1Pet4:17), and the confusions, etc, we can get the gist why the “sackcloth” is to be donned. Imagine how JWs will feel when they find out the GB is from the enemy system as per Daniel 11:32a?

BUT, it is also “robes of state” time, at the same time:

(Zechariah 3:4-9) Then he answered and said to those standing before him: “Remove the befouled garments from upon him.” And he went on to say to him: “See, I have caused your error to pass away from upon you, and there is a clothing of you with robes of state.” 5 At that I said: “Let them put a clean turban upon his head.” And they proceeded to put the clean turban upon his head and to clothe him with garments; and the angel of Jehovah was standing by. 

Which leads to the ever important final commission, paralleled here:

6 And the angel of Jehovah began to bear witness to Joshua, saying: 7 “This is what Jehovah of armies has said, ‘If it is in my ways that you will walk, and if it is my obligation that you will keep, then also it will be you that will judge my house and also keep my courtyards; and I shall certainly give you free access among these who are standing by.’ 8 “‘Hear, please, O Joshua the high priest, you and your companions who are sitting before you, for they are men [serving] as portents; for here I am bringing in my servant Sprout! 9 For, look! the stone that I have put before Joshua! Upon the one stone there are seven eyes. Here I am engraving its engraving,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies, ‘and I will take away the error of that land in one day.’

Plus we cannot just toss the basic master pattern of 1914-1918, which demonstrated a synergy of global and prophetic parallels, not just prophecy, but a first world government cycle. The MEGA final cycle, is an amplified-on-steroids snapshot of that first cycle/formula, it is the same thing, but in final World Government presenting form, plain and simple, easy to see now, as long as we do not fall into the trap, of tossing the main Baby, the first witnessing master pattern, with the filthy Bethel wormwood bathwater (Rev8:10-11; Zech3:3), by over correcting, as some are doing en masse.

Now the seven trumpets are actually the whole final cycle framework, from temple judgment/purification (Rev8), to recovery (Rev9), to final warning “little scroll” commission (Rev10) and “two witnesses” deployment (Rev11:1-7), to its cessation under “ascended” world government (Rev11:7-10 as Rev17:8-13 completing), to Christ arrival (Rev11:11-12), Kingdom-holy_city-temple completion (Rev14:1), salvation (Rev11:13), and then, last but not least the 7th Trumpet global conquest. (Rev11:15-19)

The “seven plagues” of Rev16 are the roughly parallel global context of milestones, that basically create the global context of the seven trumpets. For example, the 7th plague air event is the 6th trumpet Christ arrival, slightly offset, for he must arrive “in the air” (1Thess4:17), prior to the final salvation drive, after he complete Kingdom Messianic for that final King-Priest coronation of also the temple completion. (Zech3:6-9; Zech4:6-9 parallels of Rev11:4; Zech6:9-15)

And that is why we need to pay attention to Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment (Rev8:3-5 parallel), it is IMPORTANT, a ONE TIME UNIQUE temple judgment “right condition” purpose TIMED AND PHASED prophecy that has NOT yet fulfilled!

In fact everything since 1944 under the GB evolution, has brought about the “wrong condition” they claim is the right condition since 1944!!!

1944: The Governing Body, UN Allied Apostate Leaders of the Implied “Wrong Condition” of Daniel 8:14
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/how-daniel-812-14-unright-condition-has-been-developed-by-the-profane-governing-body-since-1944/

In reality, the GB coup was the THIRD “board of directors” attempted revolt!

1944 Governing Body Birthday—1914-1976 WTBTS Board of Directors Coup Finally Realized
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/1944-governing-body-birthday-19144-1976-wtbts-board-of-directors-coup-finally-realized/

The “governing body” idea itself, as applied to JWs, budded in 1944, in their own words:

The Governing Body Experiment—1944 to Present
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/the-governing-body-experiment-1944-to-present/

But it comes from Babel originally:

The core error is the “governing body” concept itself; it comes from Babel:

Bloodlines of the Illuminati pg. 2-3 Introduction (by Fritz Springmeier 1998)

The Mystery Religions each had their secret councils which ruled them, and these councils themselves came under the guidance of a secret supreme Grand Council or Governing Body.

http://www.whale.to/b/sp/bl.html

Thus the very core element of the Babel Religious System, is the very heart of the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry now! “The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses”—and there is a great modern example of that Babel controlling “body” concept. But before Christendom employed it, it was also in the Pharisees who led the Jerusalem apostasy of Christ’s time:

Occult Theocracy ch. 7 pg 77 Judaism, The Pharisees (by Edith Starr Miller 1933)

In his book Nicholas II et les Juifs, Netchvolodow explains that ” the Chaldean science acquired by many of the Jewish priests, during the captivity of Babylon, gave birth to the sect of the Pharisees whose name only appears in the Holy Scriptures and in the writings of the Jewish historians after the captivity (606 B. C).http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pdf_books/occult_theocrasy.pdf

The same Babel origin “Supreme Council” or “Governing Body” concept defines the Catholic Papal system and all of Christendom’s “governing bodies” as well, all merely under various “clergy” controlling titles:

The Two Babylons ch. 6 p. 301-302 Religious Orders Section 1 The Sovereign Pontiff (by Alexander Hislop 1858)

If there be any who imagine that there is some occult and mysterious virtue in an apostolic succession that comes through the Papacy, let them seriously consider the real character of the Pope’s own orders, and of those of his bishops and clergy. From the Pope downwards, all can be shown to be now radically Babylonian. The College of Cardinals, with the Pope at its head, is just the counterpart of the Pagan College of Pontiffs, with its “Pontifex Maximus,” or “Sovereign Pontiff,” which had existed in Rome from the earliest times, and which is known to have been framed on the model of the grand original Council of Pontiffs at Babylon. The Pope now pretends to supremacy in the Church as the successor of Peter…

http://www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/sect61.htm

Sound familiar?

*** Watchtower 2013 7/15 p. 18, par. 12 Feeding Many Through the Hands of a Few ***

The channel he used for spiritual feeding was clearly recognizable. After all, the apostles—the original members of the governing body—could provide visible proof of heavenly backing.

(Revelation 2:2) ‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars.

The Bethel “Papacy” is merely the same clergy defining “governing body” from Babel, to Babylon, to Jerusalem, to Rome, to all of Christendom, continued to modern times, to Bethel, to now lead JWs—leading that ministry in but another apostasy, merely repeating in the same gradual fashion as a latent signal of the whole cycle also starting to repeat with this replication (the apostasy is the first signal of the final cycle latently active, about to go full blown.) JWs have been so busy exposing Christendom’s Babel clone, we forgot to inspect Bethel’s DNA and its own GB clone more closely by the same kind of deeper research and examination, but now of Bethel’s modern apostate evidence.

Daniel 7 and 8 Parallels, and Unique Features

And THAT is why that same “small horn” appears in both Daniel 7, and Daniel 8, in varied manner, but leading to the same world government entity.

(Daniel 7:8) I kept on considering the horns, and, look! another horn, a small one, came up in among them, and there were three of the first horns that were plucked up from before it. And, look! there were eyes like the eyes of a man in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking grandiose things.

(Daniel 7:11a) “I kept on beholding at that time because of the sound of the grandiose words that the horn was speaking

(Daniel 7:20-21) and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other [horn] that came up and before which three fell, even that horn that had eyes and a mouth speaking grandiose things and the appearance of which was bigger than that of its fellows. 21 “I kept on beholding when that very horn made war upon the holy ones, and it was prevailing against them

(Daniel 8:9) And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one, and it kept getting very much greater toward the south and toward the sunrising and toward the Decoration. 

1. There are two “small horn” visions, because one is repeating context, Dan7, Daniel 8 is one time features. Daniel 7 has REPEATING features, like Daniel 7:25-26, but in final form in the future. It was merely “warmed up” in preview “first witnessing” form in 1914-1922, so we could know what we are talking about TODAY!

2. BUT Daniel 8 has ONE TIME only details, like Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment, so the “small horn” is touched on there in a different context, but the same Anglo root is IDd as context development, we know matured to Anglo+American now, but they have the same anti-Decoration objective:

(Daniel 8:9) And out of one of them there came forth another horn, a small one, and it kept getting very much greater toward the south and toward the sunrising and toward the Decoration. 

Because it is the root horn, the Dan 7 “8th horn”, of the 8th King world government root development relationship (Anglo root), also in Daniel 8, 8th King counterpart King Fierce in Countenance (Dan8:23-25), also King North finality of world government development (Dan11:29-45 merges Dan11:42-45 into Dan12), we know we are in the maturing world government section from after 1990, in Daniel 8:23-25. Of course apostasy developments had to have been forming at Bethel, well before 1990.

The temple judgment of Daniel 8, unique, one time, future, is why Daniel 8 was a separate vision, (but with “small horn” context), because though that context relates to Daniel 7 since the first “3.5 times” of 1914-1918, it is UNIQUE in modern temple judgment meaning:

Temple Indictment as UN NGO “Transgression” Related (Matt24:15);

(Daniel 8:13-14) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the (profaned) constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation (UN NGO alliance of Daniel 11:31b), to make both [the] holy place (temple “established place”; Dan8:11) and [the] (JW worldwide) army things to trample on?” (first 8th King “trampling” “attack” defining the spiritual meaning of the “tribulation of those days” beginning);  

Judgment Timing:

14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.” (Temple judgment purification completed in this timed period parallel Zechariah 3:4-5, Revelation 8:1-5);

Judgment Phasing:

(Daniel 8:26) “And the thing seen concerning THE evening and THE morning, which has been said, it is true. And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because it is yet for many days.”

But as per Daniel 7:25 “holy ones” “harassment” of the root horn developers, and the Daniel 11:32a “King North” leading the apostasy of today, the “small horn” objective is what JWs have now been subverted to support:

(Daniel 8:11-12) And all the way to the Prince of the army it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place (Bethel JW worldwide organization) of his sanctuary was thrown down. (this “throw down”, like Daniel 11:41 “enter the decoration”, is progressive from infiltration to complete sacking “trampling” in this development) 12 And an (JW worldwide) army itself was gradually given over (to 8th King infiltrative control), together with the constant [feature] (imbibed with disinformation), because of transgression; (UN NGO and other sins permits allowance of the compromise by removed divine blessing and discernment while fulfillment of prophecy is effected for greater future purpose); and it kept throwing truth to the earth (cover up, disinformation), and it acted and had success. (Dan11:30 “act effectively” parallel completely successful unlike anything World War 2 produced in ultimate failure when compared to this 8th King engineered intelligence and subversion operation deployed through the Governing Body and installed Bethel agents); 

So apostate Bethel is the tool, but the “small horn” root system is the “successful” expert core subverter and apostasy leader.

(Daniel 11:32) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant (at Bethel), he (8th King/King North) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. (The Bethel “smooth words” 8th King cover-up in the JW publications is part of the smoothly justified apostasy);

And no wonder then Bethel did not expose that Daniel 8:23-25 has TWO “King” stands, and the one in Daniel 8:23 has to be that 3rd UN placement parallel of 1990 parallel Daniel 11:31b. As Daniel 11:31b-45 also has the final two UN events, ALL PARALLEL, the final of which is full World Government 8th King, King Fierce, and King North convergence of prophecy as convergence of global sovereignty which it will become as Revelation 17:8-18 full sequence.

Because much is going on here in Bethel CO-DEVELOPING apostasy manifesting WITH that 3rd UN event of 1990, Daniel 8 provides the temple judgment details which this apostasy now requires to act upon it. But Daniel 8:11-14,23 developments and Daniel 11:30-35, are all parallels of the same apostasy developments, as they “throw truth to the earth” and conceal that 3rd UN event meaning of 1990, and fully “gradually given over” subvert JW ministry to completion, hence requiring a divine action, in time, to judge it, expose it, and cleanse it to the Daniel 8:14 “RIGHT condition”. Which is purification “right condition” of also clarified truth (Mal3:1-5), not temple completion yet, as some are saying.

Bethel Apostasy Foretold in Daniel 8 and 11
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/bethel-apostasy-foretold-in-daniel-8-and-11/

Daniel 8 and 11 Final Apostasy and 3rd UN Placement (1990) Connections and Parallels
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-8-and-11-final-apostasy-and-3rd-un-placement-1990-connections-and-parallels/

But that is why we have Daniel 8 extra detailing directly connected to the modern temple judgment requirement, yet IDing the 3rd to 4th UN events as the context of it all since 1990 has been marked in retrospect by such things as the Bethel UN NGO—the King North 8th King RED FLAG flapping over apostate scarlet Bethel to define the modern Matthew 24:15, which should also get more “disgusting thing standing” visible for those not catching on yet.

And since Bethel’s GB and leaders are virtually Neo-Roman King North buddies, for real, they are also a “disgusting thing” related standing authority now trampling the spirituality of JWs, right under their noses. The true full implications are ENORMOUS of what this really means, this judgment will be of “prophetic proportions” as the outcome.

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Now a major judgment has preceded a shift in a “king” power four times:

1. Assyrian Ascension:

In [apostate] Israel in the 8th century BCE, when [Assyrian world power transitioned in], and sacked IDd apostate Israel in Samaria and Bethel cities and region [as a divine foretold judgment marker] of Hosea 1:4-7 and Isaiah 28 (among other warning prophecy); this apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power emerged for the 1st time.

(Isaiah, Hosea, Micah, Amos all record that apostasy and judgment announcement before it hit.)

2. Babylon Ascension:

In [apostate] Jerusalem in the 7th-6th century BCE, when [Babylonian world power transitioned in], as a [foretold judgment marker] allowed a total sacking of Jerusalem and all Israel; this apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power emerged for the 2nd time.

(Jeremiah and Ezekiel fully document the apostasy and the warning)

3. Roman Ascension:

In [apostate] Jerusalem in the first century CE, when [Roman world power transitioned in] and sacked Jerusalem and all Israel as a [divine foretold judgment marker]; and this apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power emerged for the 3rd time.

(Now we know Daniel outlined this briefly. But Christ, all the apostles and 1st century Christians were warning of this judgment.)

The point being a SIGNAL APOSTASY, SEEN BY SOME, WARNED IN PROPHECY and from some, ALL develop [[with]] [a major world power transformation].

And in modern times, the pattern is certain again:

4. Anglo-American 7th King Ascension:

And in corporatized Christendom [apostasy] in 1914-1919, when the “Bible Students” came out summarizing the apostasy exposure of Christendom complex, coming forth, as BOTH the [7th King world power transitioned in fully] and [as the 8th King “image” (world government designate) was first presented] and began emerging with and after WW1. This apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power “king 7” emerged for the 4th time. (As before it was all foretold, and it all had a notable APOSTATE judgment marker to know what it means in the overall development)

That is no coincidence, and by then it was a common pattern. It took them a little time to recognize the specific world power transformation emerging as official in Anglo-American [nationalist] alliance, AND the [globalist] developmental nucleus of world government in that League of Nations presentation.

And this will be the 5th transition:
Today—World Government:

5. 8th King World Government Ascension:

Bethel apostasy is NOW emerging, with its own DELUSIONAL “the end is near!” smokescreen (2Thess2:1-2) so the final cycle also gearing up to transition into world government, can be concealed from JWs, while a great global transition, AGAIN, the BIG ONE, is clearly forming with SIGNS in the system itself as per Luke 21:25. This NOW CERTAIN apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power will now emerge for the last time into 8TH KING WORLD GOVERNMENT along with the sacking of Bethel.

Foretold Apostasy Always Precedes a Global Epic World Power Transition—5 Times in Prophecy
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/05/01/486/

In most cases (1-3), the world power coming in, sacks the apostate system. They sacked the IBSA in attempt, in 1918.

BETHEL APOSTASY IS NOW THE FINAL SIGNAL OF THE SAME PATTERN. The same guys behind the UN NGO, the 8th King planners, is who will also sack Bethel in the future, hence Daniel 8:13, Dan11:41, Dan8:11. And from then, the 8th King will “ascend” into the next global power system, but in the temple judgment initial “evening” phase, they will take advantage of that accounting. And like Assyria in Hosea 1:4-7, and Isaiah 36:10, they will TRY to over extend the judgment upon all JWs, but they will also be turned back. (That is why Hezekiah received TWO signs:

Sign of Deliverance and Recovery:

(Isaiah 37:30-32) “‘And this will be the sign for you: There will be an eating this year of the growth from spilled kernels, and in the second year grain that shoots up of itself; but in the third year sow seed, you people, and reap, and plant vineyards and eat their fruitage. 31 And those who escape of the house of Judah, those who are left remaining, will certainly take root downward and produce fruitage upward. 32 For out of Jerusalem a remnant will go forth and those who escape out of Mount Zion. The very zeal of Jehovah of armies will do this.

Sign of Deliverance and Healing:

(Isaiah 38:4-8) And the word of Jehovah now occurred to Isaiah, saying: 5 “Go, and you must say to Hezekiah, ‘This is what Jehovah the God of David your forefather has said: “I have heard your prayer. I have seen your tears. Here I am adding onto your days fifteen years; 6 and out of the palm of the king of Assyria I shall deliver you and this city, and I will defend this city. 7 And this is the sign for you from Jehovah that Jehovah will perform this word that he has spoken: 8 Here I am making the shadow of the steps that had gone down on the steps [of the stairs] of Ahaz by the sun retrace backward ten steps.”’” And the sun gradually went back ten steps on the steps [of the stairs] that it had gone down.

And this is how it was fulfilled:

 

(Isaiah 37:36) And the angel of Jehovah proceeded to go forth and strike down a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians.

And that is why angels are all over the temple judgment prophecies of Daniel 8, Zechariah 3, Revelation 8-9, Malachi 3:1-5, and so on.

(Isaiah 31:8-9) And the Assyrian must fall by the sword, not [that of] a man; and a sword, not [that of] earthling man, will devour him. And he must flee because of the sword, and his own young men will come to be for forced labor itself. 9 And his own crag will pass away out of sheer fright, and because of the signal his princes must be terrified,” is the utterance of Jehovah, whose light is in Zion and whose furnace is in Jerusalem.

It will in time (Dan8:14 half point, evening to morning point), be time for God to step into the Bethel apostasy, and its internal trespassers from King North. BUT to ensure the recovery for the 1260 days eventual final warning, guaranteed to go forth, as backed by angels, if need be, and needed it will be.

(Zechariah 3:7) I shall certainly give you free access among these who are standing by.’

Those “standing by” are angels of God. Humans were sitting:

(Zechariah 3:8-9) “‘Hear, please, O Joshua the high priest, you and your companions who are sitting before you, for they are men [serving] as portents; for here I am bringing in my servant Sprout! 9 For, look! the stone that I have put before Joshua! Upon the one stone there are seven eyes. Here I am engraving its engraving,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies, ‘and I will take away the error of that land in one day.’

So the Revelation 10-11:1-7 “good news” of Sprout, must come forth. I know many in the world would consider this crazy. But Christ arrival is “crazy” to this world, and incoming world government is on the way, and will trigger just that.

The internal Bethel reality is beyond apostate, as only those in, and thus “those leaving the holy covenant” can even be “apostate”. (Dan11:30b) But Bethel is also “certain men have slipped in”.

(Jude 3-4) Beloved ones, though I was making every effort to write you about the salvation we hold in common, I found it necessary to write you to exhort you to put up a hard fight for the faith that was once for all time delivered to the holy ones. 4 My reason is that certain men have slipped in who have long ago been appointed by the Scriptures to this judgment, ungodly men, turning the undeserved kindness of our God into an excuse for loose conduct and proving false to our only Owner and Lord, Jesus Christ.

And though they play the “we are broke” card, they have easily skimmed 10 Billion out since 1980, and generated another 10 billion in JW donations, and another 20 billion in real estate valuation development, and insider aided investments. They are EASILY worth as much as the 30 Billion dollar Mormons, because Bethel has an ARMY of JW free labor and consultants, from dishwashers to lawyers, to architects and engineers, and especially King North provided financial planners, they are a harlot of the bankers who have received, and will receive, most of that booty—if not all.

(Ezekiel 7:22) “‘And I shall have to turn away my face from them, and they will actually profane my concealed place, and into it robbers will really come and profane it.

(Hosea 7:1) “At the time that I would bring healing to Israel, the error of Ephraim is also actually uncovered, and the bad things of Samaria; for they have practiced falsehood, and a thief himself comes in; a marauder band actually makes a dash on the outside.

(Mark 11:17-18) “Is it not written, ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a cave of robbers.” 18 And the chief priests and the scribes heard it, and they began to seek how to destroy him; for they were in fear of him, for all the crowd was continually being astounded at his teaching.

(Nahum 1:10-13) Although they are being interwoven even as thorns and they are drunken as with their wheat beer, they will certainly be devoured like stubble fully dry. 11 Out of you there will actually go forth one who is thinking up against Jehovah what is bad, counseling what is not worth while. 12 This is what Jehovah has said: “Although they were in complete form and there were many in that state, even in that state they must be cut down; and one must pass through. And I shall certainly afflict you, so that I shall not afflict you anymore. 13 And now I shall break his carrying bar from upon you, and the bands upon you I shall tear in two.

(Zechariah 13:7-8) “O sword, awake against my shepherd, even against the able-bodied man who is my associate,” is the utterance of Jehovah of armies. “Strike the shepherd, and let those of the flock be scattered; and I shall certainly turn my hand back upon those who are insignificant.” 8 “And it must occur in all the land,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “[that] two parts in it are what will be cut off [and] expire; and as for the third [part], it will be left remaining in it. 

(Zechariah 11:4-5) “This is what Jehovah my God has said, ‘Shepherd the flock [meant] for the killing, 5 the buyers of which proceed to kill [them] although they are not held guilty. And those who are selling them say: “May Jehovah be blessed, while I shall gain riches.” And their own shepherds do not show any compassion upon them.’

(Nahum 2:1) One that does a scattering has come up before your face. (Zech13:8) Let there be a safeguarding of the fortified place. Watch [the] way. Strengthen [the] hips. Reinforce power very much.

In that “Let there be a safeguarding of the fortified place”, God may recover a scrap for the final witness, we cannot really say, as repentance and admission and FULL disclosure and apology will be required, IF Bethel is even given the opportunity, in some manner. Meaning the core ministry “established place” of Daniel 8:11, and the now well profaned and infiltrated “fortress” of Daniel 11:31a, that is the classic JW ministerial mundane base of the ministry functions, for preaching and teaching aids, now hi-jacked but good.

That is also why we will have to pay attention to Daniel 8:13-14 in the future. The end will not arrive quite as soon as many are expecting, and none is expecting the end as prematurely as JWs, for example.

The JW ministry is infiltrated, and will go into a corporate raid and sacking with prosecutions, that they will try to sell to JWs as “persecutions” and “it is the end brothers!!!”. But it is all a sham. Foretold n the needed details of who, what, why, when, where and how it has become “gradually given over” (Dan8:12) to enemy system objectives. They removed that “gradually” word from the New NWT hack job. The new NWT is just part of the overall JW diversion and unbalancing process, along with the JW media joke. ALL smoke and mirrors to aid a great JW “Fake Armageddon” hoax setup.

Now you might be able to imagine, the challenge it will be, to recover JWs from this heavy duty final delusion, allowed to develop for greater temple judgment recovery purposes:

(2 Thessalonians 2:11-12) So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.

Being “judged” can have good or bad outcomes, it is not a lump sum rejection. But JWs are promoting a lie now-a-days, and the King North boys hope people just toss the whole baby, with the bathwater, as it discredits the ENTIRE JW ministry, as you may well see all over the Web. Do not be fooled, only “1/3” is in apostasy, for “1/3” of GB total override since 1976. In the process, they turned the faith, into a corporate legal system farce. But, they will reap what it is they actually have sown. It is really temple judgment time.

But, anyways, it is a broader purpose event, but Bethel will be the signal to watch and time for Daniel 8:13-14. And of course all forecasts have to be put to the test as this unfolds. JWs and the world in general are all “nodded and went to sleep”, in the same overall diversion process.

Thank you for considering it

 

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Four 8th King UN Cycles to World Government – 1919-Future

UN 1. 1919 – Rev13:11-15 (Dan12:11 first fulfillment) as League of Nations after WW1;

A. International Bible Students Association (IBSA) explained as prophecy;

UN 2. 1945 – Rev17:8-11 as United Nations after WW2;

A. Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW) explained as prophecy;

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Unknown and unstated by UN NGO allied Bethel and Jehovah’s witnesses:
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UN 3. 1990 – Daniel 11:31b as United Nations “New World Order” Initiative after WW3 (Cold War) (Dan11:29);

A. Covered up by Bethel as UN NGO, not explained as prophecy by any religious group;

[We are Here…]

UN 4. Future – Daniel 11:45; Daniel 8:25; (Daniel 12:11 last fulfillment) as United Nations and World Government after 4th world tribulation/war cycle to come.

A. Not currently explained by Bethel in lieu of a premature “end of the world” deception. (2Thess2:1-2)

B. To be explained after the JW temple judgment desolation, purification and removal of lawless Bethel engineered subversion (2Thess2:1-4; Dan11:30-31; Dan8:11-13);

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I categorized some more recent articles you may find useful in your research.

Temple Judgment Background

Temple Judgment Background – Governing Body Covers Up “King of the North” Actual 8th King Meaning
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-background-governing-body-covers-up-king-of-the-north-actual-8th-king-meaning/

Temple Judgment – The Prophets in Details of the Final Prophetic Cycle
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-the-prophets-in-details-of-the-final-prophetic-cycle/

Temple Judgment – Book of Hosea Primer for JW Bethel Judgment of Daniel 8:11-14 – Near Future JW Temple Desolation and Purifications
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-hoseas-prophecy/

Temple Judgment – Micah’s Prophecy – Micah Applied to Modern Bethel Under “Man of Lawlessness” Spiritually Illegal Governing Body
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-micahs-prophecy/

Temple Judgment – Zechariah’s Prophecy – Complete Temple Revelation
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-zechariahs-prophecy-complete-temple-revelation/

Malachi’s Prophecy – Temple Judgment and Christ’s Temple Presence
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/malachis-prophecy-temple-judgment-and-christs-temple-presence/

Joel’s Prophecy – Temple Judgment and Global Effects of Temple Recovery and Completion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/joels-prophecy-temple-judgment-and-global-effects-of-temple-recovery-and-completion/

Temple Judgment – Comprehensive Globalist Symbology in Nahum, Zephaniah, Habakkuk, Jonah and Other Prophets
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-comprehensive-globalist-symbology-in-nahum-zephaniah-habakkuk-jonah-and-other-prophets/

Temple Judgment – Habakkuk’s Prophecy – Amazing 8th King Globalism
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-habakkuks-prophecy-amazing-8th-king-globalism/

Temple Judgment – Zephaniah’s Prophecy of Temple and World Judgment
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-zephaniahs-prophecy-of-temple-and-world-judgment/

Temple Judgment – Nahum’s Prophecy of Infiltration and Bethel Judgment
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-nahums-prophecy-of-infiltration-and-bethel-judgment/

Temple Judgment

Timed Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses – Daniel 8:13-14
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/timed-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

Daniel 8:13-14 Details the Coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/daniel-813-14-details-the-coming-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

The Total World Judgment “The Judgment” Begins With Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/the-total-world-judgment-the-judgment-begins-with-jehovahs-witnesses/

Temple Judgment Progression to Temple Completion – Table and Description
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-progression-to-temple-completion-table-and-description/

JW Judgment is First and Will Picture the World Judgment It Will Lead To
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/jw-judgment-is-first-and-will-picture-the-world-judgment/

Fire Purification: Proving the JW Temple Judgment as Daniel 8:13-14 Connection to Revelation 8
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/fire-purification-proving-the-jw-temple-judgment-as-daniel-813-14-connection-to-revelation-8/

Modern Sign of Jonah – Jehovah’s Witnesses Going Down for Three Years by Bethel Global Organizational Intrigues
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/2014/11/30/modern-sign-of-jonah-jehovahs-witnesses-going-down-for-three-years-by-bethel-global-organizational-intrigues/

Ten Virgins and Temple Judgment
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/ten-virgins-and-temple-judgment/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/ten-virgns-and-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses.pdf

Foretold Apostasy Always Precedes a Global Epic World Power Transition—5 Times in Prophecy
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/05/01/486/

Background to the Revelation 8 Final Fulfillment on Jehovah’s Witnesses

http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/revelation-its-grand-climax-at-hand-revelation-8-final-fulfillment-comparison/

https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2014/05/17/revelation-its-grand-climax-commentary-comparing-the-christendom-judgment-of-revelation-8-first-fulfillment-to-the-bethel-judgment-of-revelation-8-final-fulfillment/

Revelation 9 – “The Destroyer” and Temple Judgment
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/revelation-9-the-destroyer-and-temple-judgment/

Modern Bethel Apostasy

Jehovah’s Witnesses Foretold Organized Apostasy Development in the Bible Symbols
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/jehovahs-witnesses-foretold-organized-apostasy-development-in-the-bible-symbols/

Faithful and Discreet Slave Identified by God After Divine Temple Judgment
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/faithful-and-discreet-slave-identified-by-god-after-divine-temple-judgment/

The Governing Body Popes and the Bethel Inquisition Fulfills Signal Prophecy Leading to Final Temple Judgment
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/the-governing-body-popes-and-the-bethel-inquisition/

The Governing Body “Apostolic Succession” – WT 7/15/13
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/the-governing-body-claims-apostolic-succession-watchtower-71513/

Governing Body Fulfills 2Thess2:4 Public Worldwide “Man of Lawlessness”
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/man-of-lawlessness/xgb-fulfills-2thess24-public-worldwide-man-of-lawlessness/

The Modern Man of Lawlessness – Governing Body Based Bethel UN Prophetic Deception Operation
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/the-modern-man-of-lawlessness-governing-body-based-bethel-un-prophetic-deception-operation/

Governing Body Aided UN Aiding Subversion and Diversion Campaign (1976-2014 Approximated);
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/the-man-of-lawlessness-governing-body-un-prophetic-deception-operation/

Temple Prophecy in Jehovah’s Witnesses from Man of Lawlessness at Temple Inspection to Temple Judgment and Purification
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/temple-prophecy-in-jehovahs-witnesses-from-man-of-lawlessness-at-temple-inspection-to-temple-judgment-and-purification/

GB Defender to the End!..? Or so I thought…That is Until I Found Out They Are The Foretold “Man of Lawlessness”…
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/gb-defender-to-the-end-or-so-i-thought-that-is-until-i-found-out-they-are-the-foretold-man-of-lawlessness/

Fred Franz Slams Governing Body – Gilead Graduation Talk 1975
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/fred-franz-files/brother-fred-franz-condemns-the-rogue-governing-body-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

Definition of Apostate: Bethel
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/12/definition-of-apostate/

“Bethel Has Fallen!” She who made all JWs Drunk…
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/bethel-has-fallen-she-who-made-all-jws-drunk/

From Simple Error to Full Blown LIE. How?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/07/from-simple-error-to-full-blown-lie-how/

Modern Bethel Apostasy and Daniel 8 and 11

Modern Man of Lawlessness Exposed Strengthens Faith
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/modern-man-of-lawlessness-exposed-strengthens-faith/

Connecting Bethel Lawlessness to Final Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/connecting-bethel-lawlessness-to-final-prophecy/

How Daniel 8:12-14 Unright Condition Has Been Developed by the Profane Governing Body Since 1944
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/how-daniel-812-14-unright-condition-has-been-developed-by-the-profane-governing-body-since-1944/

Bethel Apostasy Foretold in Daniel 8 and 11
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/bethel-apostasy-foretold-in-daniel-8-and-11/

Daniel 8 and 11 Final Apostasy and 3rd UN Placement (1990) Connections and Parallels
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-8-and-11-final-apostasy-and-3rd-un-placement-1990-connections-and-parallels/

Daniel 8:13-14 Diametric “Wrong Condition” at Apostate Bethel Since 1944—It’s Future Fulfillment and Implications
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/09/28/daniel-813-14-diametric-wrong-condition-at-apostate-bethel-since-1944-its-future-fulfillment-and-implications/

Modern Bethel Apostasy UN NGO

JW UN NGO Prophecy, Information and Details
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/the-jw-un-ngo-transgression-causing-desolation-connection-to-the-disgusting-thing-causing-desolation/

JW UN NGO – Tip of the Iceberg of Bethel Subversion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/jw-un-ngo-tip-of-the-iceberg-of-bethel-subversion/


UN NGO: What the United Nations of Non-Governmental Organizations Global Expansion System Really Is
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/un-jw-infiltration-notes/un-ngo-what-the-united-nations-of-non-governmental-organizations-global-expansion-system-really-is/

How UN NGO Bethel Joined the “UN System” under the “UN Secretariat” Principal UN Organ
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/un-jw-infiltration-notes/how-un-ngo-bethel-joined-the-un-system-under-the-un-secretariat-principal-un-organ/

How UN NGO Bethel Joined the “UN System” under the “UN Secretariat” Principal UN Organ
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/10/16/how-un-ngo-bethel-joined-the-un-system-under-the-un-secretariat-principal-un-organ/

When UN NGO Bethel Placed The Disgusting Thing
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/03/27/when-did-un-ngo-bethel-placed-the-disgusting-thing/

1990: 3RD UN Presentation—The Key to Modern Bethel Reality
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/04/08/1990-3rd-un-presentation-the-key-to-modern-bethel-reality/

GB 1944

The Governing Body Experiment—1944 to Present
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/the-governing-body-experiment-1944-to-present/

1944 Governing Body Birthday—1914-1976 WTBTS Board of Directors Coup Finally Realized
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/1944-governing-body-birthday-19144-1976-wtbts-board-of-directors-coup-finally-realized/

1944: The Governing Body, UN Allied Apostate Leaders of the Implied “Wrong Condition” of Daniel 8:14
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/how-daniel-812-14-unright-condition-has-been-developed-by-the-profane-governing-body-since-1944/

Matthew 24:15 Flee JW Org

JWs – FLEE The JW Org!! – Matthew24:15
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/jws-flee-the-jw-org-matthew2415/

The “Event” JW Bethel is Planning For
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/the-event-jw-bethel-is-planning-for/

How to Set-Up JWs Like 8th King Sitting Ducks
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/how-to-set-up-jws-like-8th-king-sitting-ducks/

Former JW Validity

Bethel Apostasy 1990 – Jehovah’s Witnesses’ UN NGO and the UN Prophecy Tracking Lost and Soon Recovered
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/bethel-apostasy-1990-jehovahs-witnesses-un-ngo-and-the-un-prophecy-tracking-lost-and-soon-recovered/

Once Upon a Time JWs Tracked UN Development as Prophecy Properly
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/bethel-apostasy-1990-jehovahs-witnesses-un-ngo-and-the-un-prophecy-tracking-lost-and-soon-recovered/

What Used to Make Jehovah’s Witnesses’ UN Prophecy Tracking Valid
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/what-used-to-make-jehovahs-witnesses-un-prophecy-tracking-valid/

The Trek to Armageddon in JW Known Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/the-trek-to-armageddon-in-jw-known-prophecy/

The Divine Advantage of the Prophetic Replication for Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/the-divine-advantage-of-the-prophetic-replication-for-jehovahs-witnesses/

1914’s Main Validation? World War 1, World Government and World History
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/jwupdate/1914s-main-validation-world-government-and-world-history/

Jerusalem Exile=Destruction? 607 BCE versus 586 BCE Dating—All’s Good! All’s Well, Couldn’t Be Better!
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/11/17/607-bce-versus-586-bce-dating-alls-good-alls-well-couldnt-be-better/

Jehovah’s Witnesses Valid Kingdom Ministry and Preview Master Pattern of Prophecy That Must Repeat (1914-1919)
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/jwupdate/jehovahs-witnesses-valid-kingdom-ministry-1914-1969/

1969—The JW Peak of Spiritual Enlightenment: Revelation Complete
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/1969-the-jw-peak-of-spiritual-enlightenment-revelation-complete/

Once Upon a Time JWs Tracked UN Prophecy Properly
Bethel Apostasy 1990 – Jehovah’s Witnesses UN NGO and the UN Prophecy Tracking Lost
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/what-used-to-make-jehovahs-witnesses-un-prophecy-tracking-valid/

Progressive National to Final Globalist World Power in Bible Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/progressive-national-to-final-globalist-world-power-in-bible-prophecy/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/progressive_national_to_final_globalist_world-power_in_bible_prophecy.pdf

7th King/King South Downfall

US King South Lead Financial System Must Collapse into 8th King Control
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/king-south-lead-financial-system-must-collapse/

Daniel 11:42-43 Explicit in Coming 8th King Globalized Wealth Control
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-1142-43-explicit-in-coming-8th-king-globalized-wealth-control/

7th King Downfall – Isaiah’s and Ezekiel’s Prophecy – “Egypt” Pronouncements as Modern Nation-State System Parallels in the Final Tribulation Cycle
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/7th-king-downfall-isaiahs-and-ezekiels-prophecy-egypt-pronouncements-as-modern-nation-state-system-parallels-in-the-final-tribulation-cycle/

8th King World Peace—Guaranteed
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/05/21/8th-king-world-peace-guaranteed/

8th King World Government Rise with 7th King Nation State Fall
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/world-government/8th-king-world-government-rise-with-7th-king-nation-state-fall/

King 8 Versus King 7—The New World Order to Capture the Old World Order
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/king-8-versus-king-7-the-new-world-order-to-capture-the-old-world-order/

8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/8-kings-why-the-7th-king-anglo-american-national-system-must-fall/

The End of National Sovereignty, Not The End of the World
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/the-end-of-national-sovereignty-not-the-end-of-the-world/

World Recovery After Final Sword Stroke

World Recovery After World War 4 – Daniel 11:27-45 3rd and 4th Final United Nations Placements
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/world-recovery-after-world-war-4/

United Nations Call For One World Currency Relates to Daniel 11:42-43 Cycle Starting Soon
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/un-call-for-one-world-currency-relates-to-daniel-1142-43-cycle-starting-soon/

Future Global War “Sword-Stroke” “Healing”— Sets the Global Stage for the “Abyss” “Ascension” of Full 8th King World Government

Future Global War “Sword-Stroke” to Define UN Peace Keeping “Abyss” Impotence— Sets the Global Stage for the “Healing” “Ascension” of Full 8th King World Government
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/future-global-war-sword-stroke-to-define-un-peace-keeping-abyss-impotence/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/revelation_13_and_17_future_global_war_sword-stroke_and_the_healing_ascension_of_full_8th_king_world_government.pdf

BRICS: King North World Government “4th Leg” Financial System
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/brics-king-north-world-government-4th-leg-financial-system/

WW1: First Cycle World War “Problem” to World Government “Solution” Global Formula; UN 1-2-3-4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/17/ww1-first-cycle-world-war-problem-to-world-government-solution-global-formula-un-1-2-3-4/

World Peace

8th King World Peace—Guaranteed
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/05/21/8th-king-world-peace-guaranteed/

Engineering World Peace, Just Like Engineering World War—to Help Sell World Government
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/engineering-world-peace/

UN Four Cycles of Prophecy and Global Development

8th King UN World Government Progress as Gauge to Armageddon Arrival
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/8th-king-un-world-government-progress-as-gauge-to-armageddon-arrival/

JW Self Fulfilling Prophecy Aids Cover Up of Final Cycle – UN 1-2-3-4 Cycle
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/jw-self-fulfilling-prophecy-aids-cover-up-of-final-cycle/

On the Significance of the UN 1-2-3-4 Super-Cycle to 8th King World Government
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/on-the-significance-of-the-un-1-2-3-4-super-cycle-to-8th-king-world-government/

Outline – UN has Four Cycles in World History and Bible Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/outline-un-has-four-cycles-in-world-history-and-bible-prophecy/

Four Time World War to World Government Formula
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/four-time-world-war-to-world-government-formula/

All Four United Nations Presentations are Foretold in Bible Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/all-four-united-nations-presentations-are-foretold-in-bible-prophecy/

World Government

8th King/King North World Government as Simple as Possible
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/8th-kingking-north-world-government-as-simple-as-possible/

Temple Judgment to World Government to Christ Arrival
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/temple-judgment-to-world-government-to-christ-arrival-revelation-11-and-daniel-12/

Babylon the Great Deposed Under World Government
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/11/26/babylon-the-great-deposed-under-world-government/

8th King United Nations World Government Final Cycle – Final Prophetic Replication and Milestones
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/the-end/major-prophetic-milestones-to-armageddon/

Worldwide Globalization Provides 8th King World Government Components
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/seven-seals/worldwide-globalization-provides-8th-king-world-government-components/

“One Hour” of 8th King World Government Revelation Parallels
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2014/12/16/one-hour-of-8th-king-world-government-revelation-parallels/

The 8th King World Government: Convergence of Global Sovereignty— Convergence of All Bible Prophecy Symbolisms
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/03/31/8th-king-world-government-convergence-of-global-sovereignty-convergence-of-all-bible-prophecy-symbolisms/

World Government—4th UN Event Converges All Prophecy Principles; Abyss Ascension and Placement
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/world-government/world-government-4th-un-event-converges-all-prophecy/

Global NATO Convergence into World Government
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/world-government-convergence-into-global-nato/

Final World Government Cycle Graphics
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/final-world-government-cycle-graphics/

Revelation 13 Replication and World Government
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/revelation-13-replication-and-world-government/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/revelation_13_replication_and_world_government.pdf

World Government, Bible Prophecy and Conspiracy Theory Converge
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/bible-prophecy-and-conspiracy-theory-converge/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/world_government_bible_prophecy_and_conspiracy_theory-draft1.pdf

Real King North

USSR Fails, Also Fails as King North, as UN Third Placement of 1990 Assumes King North Identity as 8th King!
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/extra-extra-read-all-about-it-ussr-fails-also-fails-as-king-north-as-un-third-placement-of-1990-assumes-king-north-identity-as-8th-king/

KING NORTH GLOBALIZATION TO WORLD GOVERNMENT
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/king-north-globalizationworld-government/

Daniel Prophecy and 8th King Globalists
Daniel 11:36-41 and Daniel 8:23-25 8th King Globalist Details and the Bethel Apostasy Co-Development
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-prophecy-and-8th-king-globalists/


Final Cycle Milestones

FYI – The Verification Events Coming Soon as Timed Period
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/fyi-the-verification-events-and-timing-coming-soon/

Simple Outline of Major Prophetic Milestones to Armageddon Divine War Finality
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/seven-seals/simple-outline-of-major-prophetic-milestones-to-armageddon-divine-war-finality/

Major Prophetic Milestones to Armageddon
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/the-end/major-prophetic-milestones-to-armageddon/

The Final Phase – Final Prophetic Cycle Periods and Sovereign Meanings
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/the-final-phase-final-prophetic-cycle-periods-and-sovereign-meanings/

8th King/King North World Government as Simple as Possible
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/8th-kingking-north-world-government-as-simple-as-possible/

Temple Judgment to World Government to Christ Arrival
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/temple-judgment-to-world-government-to-christ-arrival-revelation-11-and-daniel-12/

End Time Prophecy Coming Milestones To Christ Arrival – Now and of the Future
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/end-time-prophecy-coming-milestones-to-christ-arrival/

Satan’s Grand Finale 666 Global Drive
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/26/satans-grand-finale-666-global-drive-under-world-government/

Kingdom Completion

Be Careful What We Ask For – We Just Might Get It; Case in Point: “Let God’s Kingdom Come…”
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/kingdom-come-be-careful-what-you-ask-for/

Seven Seals and Messianic Kingdom Birth and Completion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/seven-seals-and-messianic-kingdom-birth-and-completion/

Sovereign Progression in Seven Bible Chapters
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/sovereign-progression-in-seven-bible-chapters/

144000 Completion First Priority and Christ’s Arrival
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/144000-completion/144000-completion-first-priority-and-christs-arrival/

Enoch’s Clue of 144000 Completion Manner
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/144000-completion/enochs-clue-of-144000-completion/

Revelation 14 – 144000 and Messianic Kingdom Completion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/144000-completion/revelation-14-messianic-kingdom-completion-and-world-judgment-sheep-sweep-in-the-8th-king-world-government-final-one-hour/

Appointed Seven Times of the Nations Sovereign Lease Has Expired – Appointed Seven Times of Divine Warning Yet to Complete
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/seven-seals/appointed-seven-times-of-divine-warning-yet-to-complete/

Comprehensive Completion Requirement of Prophecy, History, World Government and the Messianic Kingdom
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/144000-completion/comprehensive-completion-requirement/

Why TWO Witnesses?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/why-two-witnesses
https://jwupdate.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/why_two_witnesses_revelation11.pdf

Prophecy Repeats

Kingdom Come: The Final Revelation is the Final Replication of Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/kingdom-come-the-final-revelation-is-the-final-replication-of-prophecy/

Daniel 12 Repeats – Patterns That Repeat in the Future the Initial Prophetic Patterns of the Past
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-12-repeats-patterns-that-repeat-in-the-future-the-initial-prophetic-patterns-of-the-past/

World Government and Prophecy Repeating Principles
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/world-government-and-prophecy-repeating-principles/

Repeating Cycles: The Whole Prophecy Repeats Starting With The Temple Judgment Portion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/what-we-know-now-the-whole-prophecy-repeats-starting-with-the-temple-judgment/


Timed Periods

Daniel 11:42-45 Converges Into Daniel 12 Final Fulfillment
Global Tribulation is Guaranteed, Everything Else is Unknown to Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-1142-45-converges-into-daniel-12-final-fulfillment/

1260 Days Time Signature Cross Links Final Cycle Events in Final Kingdom Warning and World Government Authority
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/1260-days-time-signature-cross-links/

Daniel 12 Repeats to UN 4th Placement as Complete World Government 8th King
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-12-repeats-to-un-4th-placement-as-complete-world-government-8th-king/

Daniel 12:12 1335 Days Clues
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-1212-1335-days-clues/

Daniel 12 Final Prophetic Cycle Images and Graphics
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/daniel-12-final-prophetic-cycle-images-and-graphics/

The Final Phase – Final Prophetic Cycle Periods and Sovereign Meanings
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/the-final-phase-final-prophetic-cycle-periods-and-sovereign-meanings/

Final Prophetic Cycle – Signals of Commencement
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/144000-completion/final-prophetic-cycle-signals-of-commencement/

Identifying the Two Criteria of Daniel 12:11 in Future World Government and Final Warning Cessation Concurrency
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/06/identifying-the-two-criteria-of-daniel-1211-in-future-world-government-and-final-warning-cessation-concurrency/

DANIEL 11 MERGES INTO DANIEL 12 IN THE FUTURE
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/10/10/daniel-11-merges-into-daniel-12-in-the-future/

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i173/templelijah/Z01-Daniel11-ConvergesInto-Daniel12-Table-1_zpsgswl2tzl.png~original

Great Tribulation Phasing

Great Tribulation Phases and Meanings – 144000 Completion Prelude
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/144000-completion/great-tribulation-phases-and-144000-completion/

Global Tribulation is Guaranteed, Everything Else is Unknown to Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/global-tribulation-is-guaranteed-everything-else-is-unknown-to-jehovahs-witnesses/

Four Winds of World Government “8th King”
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/four-winds-of-world-government-8th-king/

Bethel Diversions

Final World Cycle Prophetic Truths Versus Bethel Smokescreen Deceptions
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/final-world-cycle-prophetic-truths-versus-bethel-smokescreen-deceptions/

Bethel Hoax: Premature End Expectation
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/the-bethel-hoax-and-premature-end-of-the-world-expectation/


https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/bethel_hoax_premature_end-of-the-world_expectation_among_jehovahs_witnesses-2.pdf

Bethel’s Main Delusion: The End is Near, Jehovah’s Day is Here! – is a Signal of The Final Apostasy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/bethels-main-delusion-the-end-is-near-jehovahs-day-is-here-is-a-signal-of-the-final-apostasy/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/bethel-premature-end-delusion-marks-final-apostasy.pdf

Your Deliverance is Getting Near!—The Question is: Deliverance to What?
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/jwupdate/deliverance-to-what/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/watchtower-7-15-2015_your_deliverance_is_getting_near_commentary-on-the-bethel-jw-trap7.pdf

Bethel Delusional 1-2-3 Formula Versus Prophetic and Global Reality
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/bethel-delusional-formula-versus-prophetic-and-global-reality/

JW and Bethel UNfinished Suite
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/jw-and-bethel-unfinished-suite/

Bethel Trick: Conceal Truth with Truth
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/03/13/bethel-trick-conceal-truth-with-truth/

Bethel Silence on Modern Global Developments
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/03/14/bethel-silence-on-modern-global-developments/

Bethel Record Main Source of Opposition; Changes Nature of the JW Discussion
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2014/07/06/bethel-record-main-source-of-opposition/

The Bethel Watchtower March 15, 2015 Dumb Down Policy Revealed and Applied
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/the-bethel-watchtower-march-15-2015-dumb-down-policy-revealed-and-applied/

Diversion Examples: Watchtower 6-15-2012
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/diversion/diversion-examples-watchtower-6-15-2012/

World Government and Premature “Fulfillment” of Prophecy
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/05/world-government-and-premature-fulfillment-of-prophecy/

Fake “Christ” Arrives First!
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/09/25/fake-christ-arrives-first/

Keep The Baby, Throw Out Dirty Bethel Bathwater
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/keep-the-baby-throw-out-gbbethel-bathwater/

Next King North Hoax, Now “Gog” Primed For JWs
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/world-government/next-king-north-hoax-now-gog-primed-for-jws/

Russia Framed as King North—The Purpose
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/russia-framed-as-king-north-the-true-purpose/

Bethel’s Armageddon Hoax Basics
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/bethels-armageddon-hoax-basics/

How and Why the Bethel “The End” Delusion Works
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/how-the-bethel-the-end-delusion-works-2thess21-2/

JW Org—CIA Run Intel Coup Now
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/jw-org-cia-run-intel-coup/

Bethel’s “This Generation” “No Light” Reality—This Apostate “Jerusalem” Generation
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/bethels-this-generation-no-light-reality-this-apostate-jerusalem-generation-1944-forward/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-1of-4/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 2 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-2-of-4/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 3 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-3-of-4/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 4 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-4-of-4/

Open Salvation

Positive Global Message—Open Global Salvation Opportunity
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/positive-global-message-open-global-salvation-opportunity/

Global Open Salvation—How Christ Completes His Own Ministry
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/global-open-salvation-how-christ-completes-his-own-ministry/

Why This JW Testimony is Unique
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/jwupdate/what-makes-this-jehovahs-witness-testimony-unique/

https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/about-2/why-this-jw-testimony-is-unique/

 

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On December 04, 15, pcloadletter wrote:
> I want to correct something I said. I just realized how it must have sounded.
> My only excuse for taking so long to realize will have to be the forum-famous
> “low IQ” of the dub. I said, under a different name- no doubt- that “nothing
> you say hits home, because nothing you say is true, so we aren’t very tempted
> to return evil for evil.”
> I don’t think I replied that directly to you, but it might have been right
> under a post of yours, and I know you were a main one talking on that thread.
> Someone had said something like “JWs never respond”, and I’m pretty sure you
> had been on one of your harsher runs of posts, where you’re disgusted with all
> of us, not just ‘Bethel’ and where it’s as if the WT NEVER had any special
> insights.

Well if I saw anything like that I would think it was sarcasm, I am pretty sarcastic, and too good at acting, so my sarcasm in person, at times does not have the proper comedic timing, LOL.

But on the apathy, it is a “fractal” of the whole global nap. That is why God will let this get big (Hag2:7), it is the only way to wake people up. But some people are cluing in, here and there, that more is going on than in the first reaction crowd’s explanations.

Now with JWs, Bethel has to go down and be shut up, from God, to allow JWs to wake up. That will be a trying time. And it is no overnight affair, hence Daniel 8:13-14.

The “strangers voice” (John10), is why JWs are mesmerized. Once God shuts up and cans the GB, and other miscreants acting at Bethel, the truth will come out. ICE BUCKET challenge, here it comes.
> So anyway, I remember as I was writing it , I realized I partly meant to
> include you in that “nothing true” description.
> But now, I see that that itself isn’t true, because it sounds like I’m saying
> you’re lying, but I don’t think that you are.
> It’s just that the gist- the U.N. thing- doesn’t resonate with me.
> It’s not true for me, which could be because I’m any number of the negative or
> clueless names we’re called, or simply -selfishly preoccupied -wanting to go to
> ‘pancakes house’, etc.
> OTOH- I could be right to think you’re mistaken, but not lying.

Well every forecast will be put to the test, but Bethel’s will fail first, because all they are doing is smokescreening JWs, so they can rip off the org, under the “it is the end of the world” and “it is persecution” cover. But it will be a corporate raid, and real rackets charges, and more. The “pedophiles” is just “the in” initial timebomb, to blow a whole into the Bethel “legal system” who are covering up far more serious crimes as far as secular authorities are concerned. Not saying child rape is not a serious crime, it just does not get the attention that billion dollar money scams do, because the “powers that be” want a piece of that action.

Now as with all “harlot” religions, you will find a very difficult time researching their net worth and paper trails. Like a nice little stashed escort girl, they are PROTECTED, because ultimately, the bankers have all the booty. Bethel’s billions are in Chase and Goldman like derivatives and high finance bubbles, because Bethel is not the only mark. BUT, the real top tier “powers that be” will skim out the main billions NOW, so they can just leave a bare bones 4 billion or so for the national legal vultures.

As with other bubbles and corporate embezzlement scams, they will have “two books” of numbers, the globalist scam layer, and the one they will leave JWs holding, meant to be the final “time bomb”, to seize up the hard assets to cripple the JW ministry, WHILE they are canceling it. In time, it will get DEAD SERIOUS, and they want to sell those intrigues to JWs, as if Daniel 11:44 and the end way way way too soon. It is all a “smoke and mirrors” smokescreen hoax especially designed for the JW babies and their candy store.

Bethel is EASILY a 30 billion dollar post 1980 numbers racket, conservative. And this is because they have a state of the slave art JW ARMY of slaves, to valuate real estate at global scale. THAT is why everything Bethel does is top of the line OVERKILL, so the globalists get nice properties in the end. Imo, JWs will be struggling to keep a single Kingdom Hall. Now the other thing Bethel has is free consultation, and globalist banking aids, who have “invested wisely”, because the globalists have been skimming that for decades. In non-real-estate assets, that is stocks and investments, easily Bethel could have nest egged 5 billion to start, and by now it is also mushroomed to the 20 billion range.

Thus all the “cut backs” are suspect, Bethel is not broke in the top tier, but they want to sell JWs that lie. Plus, how can they tell JWs “trust us in spite of how crazy it may sound, the org is your salvation”, yet they cannot even take care of their own at Bethel!!!! RED FLAGS galore.

But anyways, Bethel must hit the fan, and the global context will intensify for the distraction aid.
> I know for sure that I’m biased in your favor, because I like you, and think
> you are humble and kind, and you showed me about the Firesign Theater, and
> we’ve had some other laughs too.
> BTW, was proud to be able to join my sis-in-law in shouting down my husband’s
> brother, for him thinking firesign “wasn’t that good”, just assuming, but
> having never listened, that they hadn’t worn well over time.
> Told him he was dead wrong!

EVERYTHING HE KNOWS….. is wrong. LOL
> I hadn’t ever listened to my husband’s LPs of them either, but a 24-year-old
> English friend had about a year back, at our house, and he’d said there was ‘no
> point in doing comedy anymore’ because he now saw that ‘it had already all been
> accomplished already’ [or something like that].
> This sis-in-law, btw, practically chain-smokes pot, whereas for me it always
> practically WAS a hallucinogen -[like Kurt Vonnegut’s son- if you ever read
> that book, where he’s catatonic after smoking pot ,and after he recovers,
> reports “absolutely miserably depressed” while he was lying there catatonic].
> Sis-in-law reported how she lost respect for a lot of people b/c she had to do
> 2 hits of acid to even feel anything, whereas these other people were “acting
> all weird” on one hit, AND whereas – I would never DREAM of even trying it-
> knowing it just wouldn’t work out well for me.
> love, a fan

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[QUOTE who=”Lordylordy9111″]<quoted text>
This video gave a good explanation of how the US textbooks are failing to teach the truth of American history (American sociology) .
One thing is, they are not teaching anything on major subjects such as the Vietnam war. Most students believe the war was between North and South Vietnam when it started from the French via US killing 6000 Vietnamese. It was to industrialize Vietnam with American business and steal their wealth and create war to profit. It had nothing whatsoever to do with north Vietnam. The American history textbooks are scraps of American history. [/QUOTE]

Yes, it is no accident “Robert Strange McNamara” went from Secretary of Defense to the World Bank and made 50 billion dollars with Lyndon Johnson and the Insiders of the MIC. That is a conservative estimate how much just that MIC Texas and Washington Clique made. But China and Russia were also involved in the MIC’s, so a guy like Kissinger and McNamara were the front guys for the Project Management of the whole scam, and it was multi-billions for death and destruction.

Both “red China” and US Military Elites did many blood-champagne toasts, as both sides also partook in human sacrifice, on the “high places”, hence all those notorious “Hill Battles”. It was a demon driving slaughter of civilians, animals and environment. All for a few billion dollars for both sides of the altar. (No wonder they wouldn’t touch Hanoi, and told Americans to worry about “communist incursion” in that sliver of a country called Vietnam, while the whole of Red China was and is STILL right there overlooking it all! It was all hype, to run a multi-billion dollar war, that dropped more allied bomb tonnage than both world wars’ 1-2 >>>combined<<<!

Thus Vietnam really was a massive cash cow for the US and “Communist” MIC, THEY made out like bandits!

The Vietnam “cover story” was then put on TV, where they ritualized the human sacrifice for all America to watch and participate in, in psychological effects, as Liars like Cronkite and the other CFR media boys just spun the hype as long as they could for that then naive US Horn-rim and Flat Top age of the US Victims of the MIC. It was all a rape of EVERYONE, by the “war pigs” like Johnson, and the rest of those Texas and Washington demon thugs and goons.

So the coup that got Kennedy, also made a boat load of money to finance the rest of the “Texas” Bush Nazi’s foothold further, and so on to today, from Vietnam continuation. The post Kennedy era was the real coup of America finalizing, but it had a “time lag”, from there to today’s fully demon run reality. But it all started, as far as total political takeover, when they wiped out the Kennedy’s. Who was JFK Jr (died 1999) going to possibly run against for the Senate from New York? Hillary Clinton. (2001 Senate) And of course her presidential future would have been affected. I have no real idea on that, but the timing sure is convenient. The Clintons are sort of like the Bush Frankenstein’s “Igor”.

Imo they will shoehorn her into the White House, no matter what it takes. But just my opinion.

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But from Kennedy to 911 to the future, it is all connected:

America’s “Deep State”. From the JFK Assassination to 9/11
Interview with Prof. Peter Dale Scott
http://www.globalresearch.ca/americas-deep-state-from-the-jfk-assassination-to-911/5387835

The Doomsday Project and Deep Events: JFK, Watergate, Iran-Contra, and 9/11
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-doomsday-project-and-deep-events-jfk-watergate-iran-contra-and-9-11/27806

The JFK Assassination and 9/11: Unmasking Deep State Power
http://www.globalresearch.ca/jfk-and-911-unmasking-deep-state-power/5357509

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The term “governing body” was not used among JWs until 1944. So there was only a “board of directors” of a mundane Caesar defined “corporation” of worldly legalism. So JW Rutherford was not a “foremost member” of any such thing, in fact in 1917 he quelled a board takeover that would have installed the 1976 GB Tyranny, in 1917.

***Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Divine Purpose 1959; pp. 70-71***

Concerning 1917 Board of Directors second attempted takeover:

“”There he persisted in his efforts to persuade Rutherford to send him back to England so that he might make his position more secure. When Brother Rutherford refused, he sought assistance from the board of directors and finally persuaded four members to side with him in this issue by making it appear that Brother Rutherford was unfit to serve as president of the Society. Since the board of directors consisted of only seven men, this meant that now the majority of the board of directors had gone in opposition to President Rutherford, Vice-President Pierson and Secretary-Treasurer Van Amburgh. This put the officers of the Society on one side of the issue and the directors who were trying to wrest administrative control from the president on the other side.

TOM: How did they expect to do that?

JOHN: Their idea was to make the president’s position secondary to the board of directors and limit his authority to that of an adviser. That would have meant making a change in the corporation’s bylaws, and since it was a complete departure from the provisions of the original charter it warned of serious trouble ahead.

[which is exactly what the Governing Body accomplished in 1976!]

Throughout the entire administration of Pastor Russell, the president and the other officers of the Society had been the ones to decide on new publications; the board of directors, as a body, WAS NOT CONSULTED. Brother Rutherford CONTINUED this same policy as he took up the new administration. “”

And that is why the “board of directors”, about to transform into the “governing body”, had to wait until 1944 to “begin speaking about” even the term “governing body”. And by 1971 they were further aligning the “GBeocracy” to fit the coming Daniel 8:14 interpretation adjustments of 1982-1999 as well as their 1976 takeover, then finally successful from within.)

It is an important distinction to recognize, because now, since 1944, the “governing body” term has been introduced, and applied in 1971, and going full coup in 1976. Thus 70 years of a Babel based corporate authoritarian device since 1944 and now 40 years under the fully illegal “Governing Body” apostate override:

*** Watchtower 1971 12/15 pp. 755-756 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation ***

“”The official magazine of Jehovah’s Christian witnesses is The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom. In the year 1944 the Watchtower magazine BEGAN TO SPEAK about the governing body of the Christian congregation.””

There was no “governing body” in JW early ministry, nor at Jerusalem in the first century—it is ALL from Babel:

Bloodlines of the Illuminati pg. 2-3 Introduction (by Fritz Springmeier 1998)

The Mystery Religions each had their secret councils which ruled them, and these councils themselves came under the guidance of a secret supreme Grand Council or Governing Body.

As were the Pharisees and everything after them to today’s GB:

Occult Theocracy ch. 7 pg 77 Judaism, The Pharisees (by Edith Starr Miller 1933)

In his book Nicholas II et les Juifs, Netchvolodow explains that ” the Chaldean science acquired by many of the Jewish priests, during the captivity of Babylon, gave birth to the sect of the Pharisees whose name only appears in the Holy Scriptures and in the writings of the Jewish historians after the captivity (606 B. C).

I think the problem and true root is far worse than is being comprehended by most at this time. (Dan11:32a; Dan8:12) They plan to terminate the JW organization, “soon, very soon” (WT 7/15/15), and capture as many JWs as they can (WT 11/15/13), let us not be naive of the magnitude of the GB evils.

More is coming, be prepared. (Matt24:15)
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On December 09, 15, Lordylordy9111 wrote:
> I am still working on my manifesto. It seem that when I research one subject I
> find more details that open up that must be researched. Its like the roots to a
> tree that run everywhere and then the roots run into other trees that also have
> to be considered.

It seems the more you look, the more you find. And the more you look into the Bethel developments, the more you find, and the more it ties into what you are looking into. There are King North progeny running Bethel, it is not just apostasy. The apostasy merely opened the door. And if you look in the flow of Daniel 11:30-35, that is how it goes:

1. First, success and apostasy:

(Daniel 11:30-35) “And he will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant.

2. Then infiltrator “arms” that “stand up” in the temple in spiritual war mode first:

31 And there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; …

3. Then corruptions:

…and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature].

4. UN NGO collusion:

“And they will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation.

5. And before you know it, King North is leading the entire apostasy:

32 “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But as regards the people who are knowing their God, they will prevail and act effectively.

6. And they cause stumbling and intrigues beyond what we are aware of now:

33 And as regards those having insight among the people, they will impart understanding to the many. And they will certainly be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for [some] days. 34 But when they are made to stumble they will be helped with a little help; and many will certainly join themselves to them by means of smoothness. 35 And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening…

7. But it has a time limit:

…until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

And that “time appointed” is Daniel 8:13-14 TIMED temple judgment, and its phasing and timing to remove the enemy system at Bethel, and to judge and remove their apostasy. And thus complete the refining stage, for the final warning full truth of the matter, as this plays out that substantial Daniel 8:14 timing.

Many out there will play a false hand in that significant prelude timing by BIG EVENTS coming on JW org, they will imply the 1260 days is the “attack” we are seeing, but it is in reality going to be the “attack” “trampling” of Daniel 8:13, and Daniel 11:41 culmination of this anti-temple and anti-JW-org, and anti-JW operation.

God must play that Daniel 8:13-14 out fully, BEFORE the final 1260 days can start. Because when they attack the “second witness”, fully successfully only AFTER it is complete (Rev11:7), that ministry will be approved and pure in truth. The Daniel 8:14 “right condition” is what is met, over that timing, and it is NOT present at this time, obviously.

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Well no wonder JW ministry has reached new levels of futility. While they cart around the little truth left remaining, the Bethel Circus has everyone appalled at JWs in general. So Bethel scandal, helps kill the ministry, and helps waster more and more JW busy work time, as many behind the doors are Web-Aware of the true criminal activity of Bloody Bethel. (Matt22:1-14)

Agape

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> My manifesto is about Christ Jesus and how the illuminati has covered Him up
> because they are manifested and controlled by satan who has been doing this
> since the Garden of Eden.
>
> Throughout history satan and his prophets (illuminati) have been dishonoring
> God and covering up the TRUTH under different names but always the same
> rulership and worship system and lying and betraying the people.
>
> I have read 5 books on kings and gods and all the anthropologists take one of
> two analogies on Jesus. They either believe in Jesus or they believe Jesus was
> a copycat cult.
Yep, the same anti-Christ crew, over centuries, and the same techniques.

Of course they will try to discredit the truth of Jesus. Well done, it just makes it all the more REAL, the more they resist the “good news” of their removal, the more proof it is true. Poor guys.

But they are very sneaky and stealth. It takes “eyes of faith” to “see” them fully. OF COURSE they are right in JWs, runing the ministry, all undercover of the sheepskin.
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> This means a deliberate cover-up from the beginning of mans history. Satan knew
> God’s world and knew Jesus and from the onset of BTG he religously through
> hymns and rites copied Jesus.

> The cover-up is so big it is scary to see the research that must be added. I
> know I will not be able to add everything. If I did it may take me ten years.

Yep, it is ENORMOUS, even bigger than everything EVERYONE sees, if were all put together, it is bigger than that. All a set of decoys, and RELIGION, not “false religion”, BUT ALL RELIGION are who are used to infiltrate, to form false prophecy to cloak ALL of Satan’s decoys.

But by this we know the ONLY TRICK Satan has, and MUST use, is to present his FAKES FIRST, and present them decoys, first, as if the real thing, by aid of corporate religion. Thus they have to use BTG, in spite of the delay such divisions cause. But because they need to divine first, then conquer by aid of BTG, they keep using her until the very end, when she is no longer required.

Thus by BTG removal, they can implement their final form of “unity”, to unite the world under the UN 666 Flag of “world peace everyone!”

Now take Islam, they play right into the NWO hand, here is my speculation on how they will use that BTG Tool:

1. Use them to destabilize and divide and invade Europe and America, grassroots, on the street. Then from that “terror” gone wild all over the EU, US, etc, the police state and martial law camps are fully set, and even requested by EU and USA. Mission accomplished. (At the same time the “Israel” and “Christianity” Islam Jihad versus Global Crusade effect, puts religion deeply on everyone’s minds. (Which comes in handy for number 3.)

2. Then, when the “sword stroke” is progressing to climax “healing” wrap up, they can use Islam as the Nuclear Bombing Boy, and Islam can be the first BTG Department to be literally annihilated from planet Earth, once they are done with the tool process of number 1. Islam at this time, is merely be allowed to exist, they can wipe them out when they choose, for maximum effect for this ruse.

(Now keep in mind, this DRAMA is to be escalated and building up in people’s minds the whole time, to prime their “revenge”-to-“relief” eventual totally global “collective emotional” response, the whole time, to use that conning technique to keep guiding the minds and hearts fo men to the “ultimate solution” it is leading to, in world government.)

Islam is being set up now as the total “global enemy” (for the west), for first level eventual total selective termination. It is like a movie plot being amped up for “revenge” feelings, to eventually satiate that amped up desire, in time, when the NWO decides to annihilate that first “Islam problem”. When the NWO brings out their real weapons techniques, they will exterminate Islam first, imo—and, it is the ground floor entry to the Middle East total takeover, AT THE SAME TIME, and I mean lock, stock, and every last barrel of oil. (This is similar to how the “Japan Enemy” was setup first, to be the Atom Bomb Whipping Boy to end WW2. They have to use a non-white whipping boy, yellow or brown preferred. But brown is this years color to whip to oblivion, in time. Islam is “first doomed”, imo.)

That aids the first stage “world peace” hype:

3. Then, “Israel” and “Christianity” seem victorious! Then Christendom and the “Israel” carrot are used, first, to lead people to the wildbeast “solution” of world government (as they promote the final false prophecy to cloak the decoy to present itself as “Zion” and “Kingdom of God on Earth”, with the final total help of Judaism and Christendom.

Now whipping Islam in grand manner, will amplify the initial “world peace” effect and “healing” hopefulness power, which will be amplified, and on “steroids”, by the annihilation of Islam and total conquest of the Middle East.

4. Then, last but not least, they can process the Christendom and Israel BTG Departments, as by then they will be unneeded. All the other small fries, like Asia’s BTG complex and Hindus, etc, are cleaned up as lowest priority. As for non-religious people, the entire removal of religion, is as good as “world peace everyone!” Global Celebration time!

They will use Islam to initially amp up all this drama, and it will go on for some years, and will intensify way way beyond what we see now, it will go off the charts in “Islam Terror”, allowed as the first “big problem”, to aid the distraction process, while setting up the mass-emotional catalyst for the relieving mass-emotional “catharsis”, as Islam is flushed first, and the global air freshens to “world peace” scent, and the “plotline” of this “drama” ends that Islam phase, like Superman saving the day in a movie, all hyped, hyped, hyped for maximum positive psychological effect..

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> You have a deep understanding of Daniel 11 and Bethel apostasy. I hope many
> will pay attention to this fulfillment because the GB has’t said a world on any
> of the major fulfillments that are taking place today concerning the apostasy
> and what is happening in the middle East at the fulfillment of the completing
> the Temple trampling. Not a world from Bethel to alert their members. They are
> Jewish apostates not Christians.
>
> Agape

That is why it will all hinge on Daniel 8:13-14, because it contains the full verification, and its timing proof, because JWs will be beyond shell shocked. But doing this on JWs, will aid the attention to the very ministry that began with the first witness.

To us it all makes sense when we see what God is doing in TWO witnessings, affirming one another. To others, it will take more time, and a big slap in the trumpet ear blown JW face will help many others see what is really going on.

But Daniel 8:13-14, and its Revelation 8:3-5 parallel of actual events, to in time lead to all four Temple Judgment Four Trumpets, is the thing to watch, and time, and WAIT to see unfold.

Because in this initial “storm”, it is the time to be cautious, and wait until the storm passes, then the real light and meaning MUST come forth from Daniel 8:13-14’s “morning” phase kicking in.

The storm, is a time of great confusion and enemy system intrigues, it is an “evening” storm, but it passes its peak as far as its anti-temple intent, and initial 3.19 years permitted accounting.

JWs will be mentally paralyzed and in a frenzy in that storm, they would be even harder then, to get through to. It is after the storm passes, as the “morning” phase starts, when JWs will have many pieces to put together, and they can be reasoned with, because it will NOT be “the end”, they have been suckered, to expect way way way TOO SOON! (2Thess2:1-2)

And the Daniel 8:14 timing and phasing gives verifiable proof, in timing and in phasing “right condition” outcome, because JWs will be shocked (and will require great proof, and that is why God times Daniel 8:13-14 for just those doubters); and many JWs are simply to green; they are too inexperienced in “first witness” prophecy, objectives and meaning, so they get the “second witness” “crash course” real fast overall.

In spite of the LIGHT, the Pouring Rains of holy Spirit will help wake JWs up and revivify them, and get many ready for final action. (Eze37; Rev9) God and Christ will become DIRECTLY re-involved in a big big way, when the “morning” light of the “abyss” opening arrives! It will be EPIC! It will be the REAL THING!

(Zechariah 10:1-2) 10 “Make YOUR requests of Jehovah for rain in the time of the spring rain, even of Jehovah who is making the storm clouds, and [who] gives a downpour of rain to them, to each one vegetation in the field. 2 For the teraphim themselves have spoken what is uncanny; and the practicers of divination, for their part, have visioned falsehood, and valueless dreams are what they keep speaking, and in vain they try to comfort. That is why they will certainly depart like a flock; they will become afflicted, because there is no shepherd.

(Hosea 6:1-3) 1 “Come, YOU people, and do let us return to Jehovah, for he himself has torn in pieces but he will heal us. He kept striking, but he will bind us up.

2 He will make us alive after two days. On the third day he will make us get up, and we shall live before him. (Dan8:14, 3 days as three years)

3 And we will know, we will pursue to know Jehovah. Like dawn (Dan8:14 “morning”), his going forth is firmly established. And he will come in like a pouring rain to us; like a spring rain that saturates [the] earth.”

Agape

The reality is HUGE, yet simple to understand, when we respect the “first witness”. Can’t toss the Baby, accidentally, with the dirty Bethel bathwater. LOL
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Bethells’ Overall Options: In the big picture, it might as well be covered here, the possible options Bethel can take, overall, in this development that will go international in time. Right now it is a bottom up strategy by the Caesar based authorities, that is set the groundwork to make congregations and elders liable first, which would proceed in time to the corporate “peeling of the onion”, (the corporate Australian Bethel system, and the WTBTS, repeat as needed in many countries).

The RC is WARNING Bethel, that they HAVE THE DIRT ON THEM, and now there were two possibilities Bethel could have possibly taken:

1. Stubbornly refuse to improve the policy;

Drawback: get more heat from higher levels, internationally.

The other option:

2. Humbly admit policy is endangering children;

Drawback: Public guilt admission will bring on a tsunami of mitigating litigations in many nations with GUARANTEED victory for plaintiffs and mega-class action lawsuits ad infinitum armed with RC precedents: until the whole Bethel corporate onion is peeled.

So Bethel is between the rock and the hard place.

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BUT NOW, with this horrid WTBTS dodging response, Bethell has taken the exact WORST REACTION strategy, which some have considered in the possibilities of responses Bethell could take.

This Bethel “head butt” will only bring more heat on the WTBTS, and the eventual target will be the ILLEGAL Bethel “corporate legal system” and corporate run “judicial system”, who are the architects of this lawlessness.

And once they look more DEEPLY into Bethell, the more they will find, such as rackets and laundering evidence, because that is what Bethel has been doing for decades, in reality.

The RC has laid it all on the line for public perusal and international awareness at the same time. Either way, a storm is brewing to the tune of a couple billion dollars LIABILITY, conservative estimate, and Bethel having to scrap their “private sovereignty” where it overrides civil law. So Bethel is taking the head butting stalling route of denials, inspite of a full time week of examined Bethel dirt at the ARC. (Zech3:3)

Can you see what kind of STORM is building up here by Bethel’s own stubborn tack?

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NOW STOP RIGHT THERE FOR A MOMENT!

What is Bethel telling JWs, at the same time?

*** Watchtower 7/15/2015 “Your Deliverance is Getting Near” par 1-2 ***

“”1-2 Imagine that you are a Christian living in Jerusalem in 66 C.E. … The soldiers… entered the suburbs of Jerusalem… Panic is spreading throughout the city… you…wonder, ‘How can I obey…? …Roman troops start to retreat!…attack is being “cut short.”… you have the opportunity to obey… Immediately you flee… your life is spared because you obeyed Jesus’ instructions.””

Thus the simple formula is an “attack” is coming ON BETHEL—SOON, VERY SOON, and it will be “cut short” so Jehovah’s witnesses can flee to wherever the JW organization directs them to be “saved”. (recall WT 11/15/13; pg.20, par. 17, #3?)

*** Watchtower 7/15/2015 “Your Deliverance is Getting Near” par 3 ***

“Soon” Salvation is Involved, “Very Soon”

“”3 Soon, very soon, each of us will face a similar situation. Jesus…used…first-century events to parallel what will occur when the “great tribulation” suddenly breaks out…our very salvation is involved…these future events will affect us personally.””

Since the impression of “the end of the world” is the main JW delusion that Bethel promotes (2Thess2:1-2), we are seeing Bethel themselves, taking a stubborn tack to a great LEGAL WARNING from the RC, that WILL only bring on more serious “requests” for change, that will be legally binding by force of national legal courts, that WILL isolate and castigate the Bethel rival “legal system” who has now decided to BUTT HEADS with Caesar, rather than admit sins, humbly submit, repent, and change policy.

So, in effect, we are seeing Bethel themselves, setting up the context of their own future “attack” “soon, very soon”, by the Caesar based legal authorities, as if fulfilling their own premature prophecy expectation, AND not for good reasons, but to hide and justify great lawlessness, as we see the very warning of the “house judgment” NOW REPEATING at Bethel, prior to their own judgment:

(1 Peter 4:15-17) However, let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a busybody in other people’s matters. 16 But if [he suffers] as a Christian, let him not feel shame, but let him keep on glorifying God in this name. 17 For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God.

Now all Bethel has to do, is sell their PROSECUTIONS “soon, very soon”, to JWs, as if “persecution brothers!”, because now prosecution is the only route the Caesar system can take, to FORCE Bethel to submit.

But, imo, it will escalate well beyond just pedophilia, it will now verge into the Bethel Rackets, because that will accelerate the power and severity of the GUARANTEED prosecutions coming, no matter how they may arise. A storm is coming for Bethel’s corporate rival legal system. (Matt24:15)

Give it a little time, give it a little more “terror events” in the West, give it a world war. And in time Bethel will find themselves in their own “self fulfilling prophecy” intensified context, “soon, very soon”. But it is a hoax, the apostate Bethel main false prophecy. (2Thess2:1-4)

Rather, “the end”, is the judgment of Lawless Apostate Bethell. It will be “the end” of the Bethel apostasy, NOT “the end of the world”. That was just the JW smokescreen.

This is NOT just a bunch of mere coincidences brothers and sisters. Bethel is escalating their own disasters to come, by their own unrepentant self righteous dodging tack strategies.

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Geoffrey Jackson Gives Apostate Out

In the article:

The Watchtower Makes Its Submission to the Royal Commission
http://meletivivlon.com/2015/12/12/the-watchtower-makes-its-submission-to-the-royal-commission/

I noticed a very interesting comment where in effect GB Geoffrey Jackson is a qualified apostate:

sopaterofberoea comment:

I have many thoughts to share but want to point out only one initially, namely, the statement of Geoffry Jackson made when under oath. His response is in direct conflict with the official position provided in our publications. We each need to memorialize his response and hang the note on our refrigerator, it may at some point prove highly beneficial.

His statement was in response to the question of Angus Stewart: “Do you see yourselves [the Governing Body] as Jehovah God’s spokespeople on earth?”

Bro Jackson’s response: “Ah, that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous, to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using.”

His response directly contradicts our official position:

“All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the ‘greatly diversified wisdom of God’ can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave.” (wt 10/1/94 p.8)

When there is suspicion (by elders) that a brother (or sister) may be leaning toward apostasy a meeting will be arranged. The opening question will likely be: “Do you believe the faithful and discreet slave (Governing Body) is the exclusive channel God is using today to direct his organization?”

This is the “checkmate” question for elders and CO’s. If one answers no, he is apostate, close the books. Bro Jackson’s recent statement now provides a tactical response to effectively move out of check. Thanks to the probing of the Royal Commission we can now respond as follows:

“I believe it would seem quite presumptuous to say that the Governing Body is the only spokesperson that God is using.”

When the elders close their notebooks and charge you with apostasy, we can advise that our response precisely mirrors the words of Bro Jackson, an active member of the faithful and discreet slave. They will be shocked.
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> The NWO is a Jewish controlled and their primary target are Christians. Have
> you read the Talmud Bible. Jesus and his followers will boil in their comb. The
> freemasons are Jewish based and they are brethrens to the Talmud. The war will
> start with Islam a.k.a. Muslims and they will remove them but their primary
> target are Christians. Unless people take bake their freedom by a revolution
> the NWO will continue to make terrorist attacks all over like in Paris and
> Colorado. Those were freemasons who carried out these terrorist attacks under
> the orders of the Talmud. The NWO and Islamic State terrorists are satan’s
> prophets.

Well the “revolution” is the NWO using “a revolution” for their own purposes, they are the “Revolutionaries” overthrowing the national sovereigns. Any “people’s revolution” only helps them overthrow the national powers. They WANT uprisings.

Thus the people have to go under the yoke of the NWO, there is no real “revolution” possible, because in this checkmate, ANY “revolution” AIDS the NWO real “Revolution”, it is too late.

And like when Jeremiah told Jews to submit to Babylon, he did not mean abandon all obedience to God, he meant do NOT take up arms against ANYONE, because in this case, taking up arms against the NWO, IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WANT A “PEOPLE’S REVOLUTION”, because it is the battering ram in the social wall, that is the “Revolution” “Trojan Horse” that martial law arrives within.

The whole world will be given to NWO, ONLY Christ can “save the world”, which will require the 100% removal of the NWO and every last “666” mind containing ANY NWO ideas.

THAT is where this is leading, and that is who to place hope in, God and Christ, because they alone get to trample the NWO RIVAL of their Kingdom, but “those chosen, called and faithful” will also do so, when in Christ-like form of being. It is very hard for people accept the irreversibility of the NWO. But those coming shocks of ice-bucket awareness of just that fact, will awaken many people to the true severity of this NWO situation. All the Alex Jones hype and those exposers will take the wrong tack, resist, and be deposed in shirt order. The NWO wants people to know about them to a certain degree, and they want people to resist.

Though we obey God as ruler rather than men, we do not play into their hand in emotional responses that only aid their takeover speed. In time the worst part of that coming period will pass, and the real news will come forth, because God will delay them at the right time, just as Hezekiah got two signs of Assyrian deliverance (Isa37:30-32), the last one (Isa38:4-8) also a sign of healing, for the temple.

The “sunset” aimed, midday trajectory shadow on the “temple”, as a sign on its “steps”, was turned BACK, “ten steps”. This is the Assyrian attack coming up, not the final attack on a pure second witness, but the one on apostasy, but it gets delivered by God (Hos1:4-7), to allow the final warning to come forth, AND to delay the 8th King development GLOBALLY into God’s timing.

They are going to get their shorts all in a knot, trying to shove in the NWO too soon, so Christ kicks them in the balls, and turns back the Assyrian at the gate. BUT ONLY AT JERUSALEM. Bethel “Israel” will be given to Assyria. But after they are given, JW Jerusalem will be spared as per Hosea 1:4-7 which was Isaiah 36-37 events, and healed as per Isaiah 38, that is the final meaning of Isaiah 37-38.

Three years (Dan8:14; Isa37:30-32) into JW desolations, WEIRD stuff will befall the apostate Bethel camp, and the Assyrian father camp. I think you know what I mean. THAT is what it means, angels will delay the 8th King Assyrian progress, for very important reasons. They will not destroy them (yet), they will just delay them to meet the final prophecy timing as willed by God, NOT the 8th King losers.

Agape

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[QUOTE who=”Lordylordy9111″]<quoted text>
I believe a dj named Timothy interviewed Fritz Springmeier. It was a very comprehensive explanation about the systematically structuring apostasy in corporate religion including Bethel. The GB are illuminati imo or they may have well have been because they could not have stumbled more if they were. [/QUOTE]

After TWNETY full years of very convenient world government concealing “ignorance” from Bethel, this is undeniably an “inside job” now. NOW WAY is this just “oversight” at Bethel, they rubbed Fred Franz out, and then took 100% control as the debilitated him so as to know about the UN NGO, but not to be able to do anything about it.

They NEEDED to make sure Fred Franz was silenced. Think all that is accidental? Nope. Think that in EVERY world war, including the Cold War end, a MAJOR LEADER in the ministry DIES?

1. WW1, Russell dead.

2. WW2, Rutherford dead.

3. Cold WW3, Franz dead.

They try to MOVE ON THE ORG, during a world war event, or with franz, in its iniial distracting aftermath.

But this time, in this world war coming up, they will coup the WHOLE ORG. BUT, God will also take the opportunity to make His move, and destroy the GB and the Bethel apostates in a means to call more attention to this development. This time, God is going to punch back, and send the message back home, to the Assyrians.

The time of allowing “insiders” of those “certain men have slipped in” is DONE, because the Bethel ministry has had infiltrators since Russel’s time. But in 1944-1976, to 1990, they took over progressively and gradually to today’s 100% Illuminati Puppet GB and Bethel “insiders” as per Daniel 11:30-32a.

But they haven’t heard from God have they?

(Revelation 8:1) And when he opened the seventh seal, a silence occurred in heaven for about a half hour.

BUT THIS TIME, they are going to “hear” from God, and it starts the seven trumpets of God’s alarms of “hearing from God” on this crucial matter. Their days are numbered. (Dan8:14) This time, it is going to be way way different, when Christ comes into the final temple completion clean out. He ALREADY has inspected, and the indictment is in Zechariah 3:1-3.

Now is time for TEMPLE JUDGMENT.
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[QUOTE who=”Lordylordy9111″]<quoted text>
I found it. Fritz Springmeier has been researching Russell and the “Eastern Establishment” which I,ve never heard of. He looks like he was researching this very early on which surprises me that he was making that connection in 2002 when you hardly heard of it anywhere. He really is a pioneer in the Russell and the illuminati connection. Even with this connection Rutherford went on to lead in the prophetic message of God’s kingdom and the arrival of the birth of God’s Church and ultimately the Birth of Jesus, as the early stages of prophetic message of Jesus arrival and He is King. It was in its infancy stages in 1914 and is now it has matured today and the second arrival of the “two witnesses” in its finality. I am glad to be part of it. [/QUOTE]

Yes, it REALLY needs a SECOND WITNESS, AFTER ALL this distraction, doesn’t it?

Though I appreciate Fritz info, Russell’s family, is not the same as Russell the man. They have ties, as did Pharaoh, but that makes neither Russell nor Moses, “Illuminati”, just because they infiltrated that house they were put in by God. Russell Family, and Charles Russell, cannot just be lump sum equated as one in will and purpose.

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I really have to defend Russell 100%, in the context of the darkness of his time, and here is why, things the critics forget to add.

Russell was the foremost (historically verifiable), physical productive Christian of modern times. Russell has no equal as far as Christian work, not even Paul did as much as Russell, it is what it is. Russell is a WORLD RECORD CHRISTIAN, NO ONE COMES CLOSE: NONE, N-O-N-E! ZERO. THAT is his history.

I am not giving the “Ill-luminati” ANY credit for that work, here. NONE!

Russell did as much as only the Apostle Paul, but for 40 more years than Paul. 2 million miles, 50,000 pages, tens of thousands of sermons, there is no driven Christian IN ALL GLOBAL HISTORY, as voluminous and full of holy spirit as Charles Russell was, except for the apostles. ONLY Christ of course is totally superior to all.

What FAKE ANTI-CHRIST could muster such INCREDIBLE energy and endurance of decades? FOR A LIE the whole time??? The Illumainti and Masons are KNOWN >>>LAZY<<< PARASITES!

But, ONLY Paul and David, are in the same league of “over the top”, “totally crazy” (so to speak) and obsessed LIFELONG focus, of the likes of Russell, a GIANT PASTOR of the truth.

They just did not know how deep the Illuminati and Freemason infiltrations was, at that time, they were babes among wolves, and they still prevailed, ONLY BECAUSE, God was with them!

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL, THE LAZY ILLUMINATI, NOR THE LAZY MASONS, ARE EVER EVER GOING TO PRODUCE SUCH A DRIVEN, VIGILANT, PRODUCTIVE, SINCERE CHRISTIAN “FAKE” AS CHARLES RUSSELL. NO WAY IN HELL, ARE THOSE LAZY PARASITES GOING TO FIND A FAKE AGENT, WHO HAS THE MIRACULOUS DRIVE AS A FAKE AGENT OF FAKE CHRISTIAN CLAIMS, AND PRODUCE, PRODUCE, PRODUCE TO THE GLOBAL VOLUME OF THE ONE-OF-A-KIND MODERN CHRISTIAN TO TO BE FOUND IN GOD’S APOSTLE CHARLES RUSSELL!

NOOOOOO WAYYYYY!

That is why I must defend Russell, hell no was he some “fake agent”, NO ONE BUT A REAL CHRISTIAN could be as driven and focused and productive as Charles Russell, for a whole lifetime, and he was KILLED by the Illuminati, that is the ONLY WAY they could STOP HIM!.

THE ILLUMINATI NEED TO STOP, NOT START, CHARLES RUSSELL!!!

Charles Russell did NO SERVICE whatsoever, nor one single advantage, for the Illuminati Goal. NONE. He IS their worst NIGHTMARE COME TRUE!. ONLY Holy spirit could have motivated such a God made GIANT OF CHRISTIANITY as Charles Russell.

I aint waffling around on that BROTHER any longer!

And if anyone ever reads about the over the top, on steroids and speed, GLOBAL, totally driven, “does the guy ever sleep?” nature, of the Charles Russell Apostleship, and the MASSIVE AMOUNTS of sincere work he did, MASSIVE AMOUNTS, in the “Sacred Secret” Service of The Lord, he will understand why Russell was the David-like GIANT KILLER, HYBRID APOSTLE PAUL AND MOSES AND DAVID, who can ONLY have come from JEHOVAH GOD ALMIGHTY, as aided by Christ.

NO WAY IN HELL, AM I GIVING THE ILLUMINATI >>>LAZY LOSERS<< ANY SUPER-RUSSELL CREDIT WHATSOEVER! It’s like saying Oakland Raider Kenny Stabler worked for the San Francisco 49ers or Denver Bronco the whole time! BULLLLLS#$%!!!!!

I am calling this BULL, for what it is: A DISTRACTION FROM THE ILLUMINATI BETHELL >>>OF TODAY<<<!!!!

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The only problem Russell had, was the truth was too new, the Illuminati had secretly advanced too much, and ONLY TODAY do we know how advanced they really were then, and are now. Russell could have no idea, and neither did Rutherford or Fred, how bad the Illuminati was by 1914.

The pyramid was a mistake, but it does contain Satan’s Illuminati calendar, and it does arrive at 1914, as modern “new age” theorists point out, like David Wilcock, who explains the pyramid gauges, if you find the right video:

https://www.youtube.com/user/davidwilcock333

Thus the Pyramid, does have a truth from Satan, for his boys, and thus it did draw real interest, and when it did NO ONE KNEW, except insiders, it was from Satan, they GOT SUCKERED IN. But it is proven, in that rationale the Pyramid ALSO arrives at 1914, because it was ALSO the Age of Satan’s Kingdom Rising, starting! IT JUST MAKES IT ALL THE MORE REAL!!!!

 

But of course, as Christians, we don’t need Satan’s Calendar to know what day we are in! IT just took time, to see everything we see now, as we see, even modern Bethel is half blind STILL, THEY ARE THE REAL ILLUMINATI AGENTS! EVERYTHING ELSE JUST DISTRACTS FROM BETHEL’S ILLUMINATI HEADQUARTERS OF TODAY!! EVERYTHING!

So Russell was on to a real date (IN BOTH FORMS, FROM GOD, and mistakenly, the pyramid), from Satan’s source, unknowingly at the time. NO WY AY IN HELL would Charles Russell, knowingly aid Satan or his agents. NOOOO WAY!!! There is no way God would have blessed that Christian Trooper, to the degree He did, if Russell was a fake. NO WAY, no two ways about it, I have no doubt of Russell’s choosing. And that is why he is the most knocked one of them all, he was our age’s main apostle, no way am I going to defame that man’s sincerity, with Illuminati rot or give them a shred of unwarranted “credit”. They are miserable, SOFT, forlorn, lazy PARASITE LOSERS, to lazy to do a thing, but get others to do it all for them! OTHERS are who built them their new world order!

(Daniel 8:24) And his power must become mighty, but not by his own power.

Now I do appreciate Fritz exposé’s, but he is who could also more well be illuminati controlled, as CIA type “disinformation” as disinformation must contain much truths. but ultimately serve the illuminati agenda. Both Fritz and Alex Jones, as sincere as they may be, are serving the NWO agenda, because they think they will topple the NWO, and that does not inform pop[le ONLY GOD AND CHRIST will crush the NWO, not humans, for the NWO is as good as Satan himself.

No way was Russell an “illuminati agent” yet, YET he spearheaded the main post-reformation work that eventually toppled the Illuminati Christendom Main Global Prop? IF Russell was illuminati, they would tell him “stay in the department store business, and leave our Christendom Lie will enough ALONE!”

Had Russell done NOTHING, it would have turned out better for the Illuminati, and for their Christendom Ho.

And that led to the Rutherford exposure of the Illuminati Wildbeast as prophecy, all aided by Russell’s MIRACULOUS DRIVEN STALWART PERSISTENT DRIVE FOR TRUTH, a truth so big, he could NOT see the whole thing in any one man, lifetime, or sub-era as 1870-1916.

I safely say Russell was that eras “Elijah”, and Rutherford was our “Elishah” wrap up for that era. THEY ACCOMPLISHED THE MISSION, THAT IS HOW WE KNOW GOD WAS WITH THEM, MISSION…ACCOMPLISHED, BIG TIME. FIRST WITNESS, SUCCESS. I do NOT buy the Illuminati placing “an agent”, as Russell that WRECKED their entire project!!!!! LOL!!!! If Russell was Illuminati, they just committed suicide and he was the Silver Bullet SHOTGUN HOWITZER that led to their had being blown OFF of their whole BLOWN UP body. LOL! NO WAY!!!!!

BUT, I do accept, as Moses came from “Illuminati” Egypt’s house, they may have planned to try to warp Russell later, but like Moses that didn’t work out so well did it? NOPE! Like Moses, God INFILTRATED THEIR HOW DIDN’T HE? YEP.

IF Russell was an unknowing agent at best, to be hopefully corrupted later for illuminati use, then he went full 100% FULL LOOSE CANNON ROGUE:

IF, THEN, IN SUCH A SCENARIO, CHARLES RUSSELL BECAME THE ILLUMINATI NIGHTMARE OF ALL TIME!!!! AND HIS WORK LED TO THEIR GLOBAL EXPOSURE of the main Christendom tool, and, WILL NOW HELP SEAL THEIR FATE, AND THEY CAN HAVE HIS HEADSTONE FOREVER MORE, BUT IT TOO WILL BE UNBURIED WITH THEM, rubbleized by God and Christ.

Now why would the Illuminati take the Russell pin-pulled Grenade into their own mouth? The pin has been pulled on the Illuminati, it is just a matter of time, and Russell is their worst NIGHTMARE in retrospect, he pulled their pin, and THEY KNOW IT. All this anti-Russell hype, is just them trying to get the in back in, but it is TOO LATE. It is ALL diversion. They are DONE. They were done since 1914, before they even got really started, poor guys.

And by God’s power, in retrospect, Russell set up the stone of truth in David’s sling, that is now Rutherford propelled, and Fred Franz aided, heading for the Illuminati skull.

I say, in just plain honesty, not any “human idolatry”, Russell and Rutherford were the two most important initial modern era God backed apostles of our time, and of course they will both be “exploited by fake counterfeit words”, because they exposed the roots of it all, just requiring a final warp up to finish off, and they helped topple Christendom and their Illuminati Pimps, and the sovereign warning that God will depose the 8th King, when complete, is a true warning that BOTH Russell and Rutherford gave square to the Illuminati Face, even if they did not yet “see” the reality of that kind of “two horned wildbeast” group pervading power.

Russell and Rutherford gave Fred Franz everything he harmonized like the Hawk of Bethel, to help us understand the first witness, with God’s help, for EVERYTHING it is, and will “second witness” come again (Rev10″:11) as, in the future; when this whole story climaxes and concludes in every entity both Russell and Rutherford nailed in their day, for everyone to hear about.

Why I Think Charles Russell was a Sincere Christian, Not an “Illuminati” Agent
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/01/18/was-charles-russell-and-illuminati-agent/

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I sort of noticed this too, reading this thread again, but too sleepy to really take in right now, and maybe ever. I was meana. What was really amazing is I went to Drizzt’s link to British Museum
and they had a description of the cuneiform and some dates but not the actual text of cuneiform, but wikipedia had the text and there were no dates in the text. Then later went back to British Museum link and what had been there was gone : http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/me/c/cuneiform_nebuchadnezzar_ii.aspx
It now said basically what this one above says, but looked a lot sloppier.
That’s the day it changed- the day I first went to the link ,and later in the day i clicked on and got the above message. which, for the record, looks like this right now-
The British Museum
404
Page not found
The Explore section of the website has been removed. Highlight objects can be found on the Google Cultural Institute.
[/QUOTE]

Well,

1. It is the “GENTILE Times” which means that GENTILE based timing template will be the historic basis of all the co-developing spiritual aspects.

2. BOTH Daniel 2 and Daniel 4’s benchmark is explicitly Babylon under the Neb dynasty, who all date to 607 BCE in Neb’s ascension.

Thus, regardless if Jerusalem’s destruction marker is the date marker, 607 BCE still stands in either event. BUT it is the “appointed times of THE NATIONS”, so it will use Babylon as the basis, and the Neb dynasty expired in 70 years, the initial “seven times”, as Jerusalem intrigues are all trimmed to meet that benchmark, which Cyrus the “anointed one” (Isaiah 45), is the main GENTILE marker in 537 BCE. We just need to have enough faith to KNOW when Times Designer, God, says 70 years, He means 70 years, and it is the first “seven times” meaning.

From there, all the times fit with the JW 2520 years benchmark, but the Jerusalem destrcution/event/date assumption, must in time be rectified.

BUT 607 BCE still stands, as does 537 BCE, but now we have the Jerusalem 586 BCE detsruction “seven times” to the Temple completion of 516 BCE, so we have the crucial link to Zechariah and Revelation’s 11’s (11:2-3), “3.5 times” which MUST REPEAT (Rev10:11), in the future, to make “seven times” as 2520 DAYS!

So, the big controversy is unneeded and not necessary to base 607 BCE, on Babylon, the “gentile time” marker, and the main bench mark of Daniel 2 and 4, co-developments to today.

A more complete article is coming, but here is the figures as graphics of all SEVEN of the “seven times” applications, it is all valid. All the Bethel error is just a temporary distraction, and it only is about the Jerusalem destruction date/event assumption, it has no bearing on 607 BCE, as based on Babylon and their subversion of Jehoiakim and Zedekiah’s reigns, which also mark the original “seven times” 70 years and 2520 Years START POINT in Neb’s marked ascension of 607 BCE.

Figure 1 – Seventy Years and Offset and Global Sovereign Convergence

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On December 14, 15, Lordylordy9111 wrote:
>
>> The whole world will be given to NWO, ONLY Christ can “save the world”, which
>> will require the 100% removal of the NWO and every last “666” mind containing
>> ANY NWO ideas.
>>
>> THAT is where this is leading, and that is who to place hope in, God and
>> Christ, because they alone get to trample the NWO RIVAL of their Kingdom, but
>> “those chosen, called and faithful” will also do so, when in Christ-like form
>> of being. It is very hard for people accept the irreversibility of the NWO. But
>> those coming shocks of ice-bucket awareness of just that fact, will awaken many
>> people to the true severity of this NWO situation. All the Alex Jones hype and
>> those exposers will take the wrong tack, resist, and be deposed in shirt order.
>> The NWO wants people to know about them to a certain degree, and they want
>> people to resist.
>
> You advise is spiritually correct and is the advise Jehovah would give. You
> speak like one of the remnant.
>
> Jehovah is the only one who can remove the NWO a 100% and this will happen in
> the events that manifests in the world. It will not be an invisible removal but
> will be clearly witnessed by the world and they will know who is doing the NWO
> removal. If people try to figure out how to resist it will be a fog and only
> Christ knows the clear path how to remove the NWO 100%.
>
> Agape

1/2

That is why they let Alex Jones and others “expose the NWO”, because Alex Jones and others take it only so far. AJ makes people believe they will overcome the NWO by revolt, and “information”, but it is all pie in the sky. And so, as AJ and others expose the NWO, they do NOT tell the whole story, that the NWO will be wildly successful as GUARANTEED by prophecy, because they must COMPLETE the Global Abomination.

True, God will sends some setbacks into the NWO camp, so they arrive at Armageddon “right on time”, but their power will use the crisis coming, to GROW steadily as Satan has designed itno their system.

ONLY God and Christ has the power to depose the NWO. And ONLY Christ has the divine authorization to do so, because God allows the NWO to run the full course to Armageddon, and that Christ alone will smash them, can become realized by many many people with exposure to Christian basics. The truth of Christ will get very “generic” so that others will also clue in, in time, theat ONLY Christ can, and WILL, terminate the NWO, and give their spoils to the “meek” who inherit the earth, NOT the NWO whipping boy.

They will eb hunted down to the last man standing and hiding in bunkers (Am9:1-3), AFTER they are fully warned by Two Witnesses 2.0, and AFTER they are completed and stated in global final defiance. THEN they will be wiped off the face of Earth, by the Kingdom of God, and 100 billion angels, conservative estimate imo.

But it will be a WAR of the GREAT DAY of GOD the ALMIGHTY, and everything that implies, right in their completed FACE. All JWs have to do, is say that truth to the full. Of course, that will take some doing, because JWs are the most ready to understand, but the most behind minds of all we can see. And when NWO goes out to dust Bethell, they will try very very hard to get and silence all JWs, because they KNOW JWs could be recovered, and reconnected to reality.

2/2

They KNOW that better than JWs. In fact, King North now understands prophecy of JWs, and more than JWs, BETTER than JWs, and they will use it against them.

1. They KNOW they get to trash the temple, for a timed period. They will try to overstay their welcome, and overextend their “trampling”,like Assyria.

2. They know JWs are in big sins.

3. They know they get the world for “one hour” in complete defiant form.

See, Assyria also knew more than the Jews of that time:

(Isaiah 36:10) And now is it without authorization from Jehovah that I have come up against this land to bring it to ruin? Jehovah himself said to me, ‘Go up against this land, and you must bring it to ruin.’”

EXCEPT Jerusalem was NOT given to the Assyrians. Same with NWO, JWs will NOT be given to KN Assyria, only Bethel “Israel” will. (Hos1:4-7)

But just as Asstria tried that ruse in the above, so will KN try to cajole JWs into surrender too.

BUT look what happened to Assyria:

(Isaiah 37:36-37) And the angel of Jehovah proceeded to go forth and strike down a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians. When people rose up early in the morning, why, there all of them were dead carcasses. 37 Hence Sennacherib the king of Assyria pulled away and went and returned and took up dwelling in Nineveh.

And that is what will happen to the KN Anti-JW boys. They will not be exterminated 100%, they will be BOOTED, and the “king” will “go back” home, but they will get the same message from El Destroyer from God! (Isa31:8-9; Mic5:5-6)

THAT is why we have THAT pattern for the future, and THAT is why KN will also get the message in the future, they will KNOW the Destroyer will come out to play to cease their tenure. (Hos1:4-7)

Agape
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[QUOTE who=”Lordylordy9111″]US needs a revolution to take the power away from the NWO a.k.a. CFR,CIA, and the illuminati a.k.a. Talmud because they are laying out how the world will be divided up which is to FIRST remove Islam a.k.a. Muslims then SECOND the illuminati a.k.a. Talmud will remove the Christians who they are there primary targets. The freemasons are a completely Jewish based religion who follow the Talmud who are biological Jews of freemasons. They are all bretherns. These are the members who control the NWO.
US revolution could remove these “chaos makers” by terrorist and put them on trial for war crimes.
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In 1776 that “Revolution” was performed by a highly organized group of Patriots preparing a while, aided and funded by English elite, to found the “New World” culmination of why they came to the “New World” in the first place—to extend Anglo NWO power, grant America its “dream” illusion, and kowtow them in.

The “Revolution” played into England’s hand, and in just 15 years an English DNA “central bank” was in place in the US. By 1913 it had progressed to the Federal Reserve in an indefinite charter. The “Revolution” was designed by the NWO of “small form”, “8th Horn”, root. The US Revolution put the US under Anglo-Elite control, and put the English now puppet monarchy under Anglo Satanist total control.

America today is a scattered mess of mental chaos, slavery to the dollar and economy, various addictions, with zero organization for anything of “revolutionary” note. So the NWO will have to give America its “Revolution” 2.0, and then they will do the same thing they did in 1776, they will install the NWO 2.0 (world government) version in America, and be the big solution, again.

The way they did this was by monopolizing education, press and media. So like the Truman Shown, Americans are programmed to do what this chaos will bear in the near future. There is no real revolution possible, because no one knows what is really going on, or how the global economy and finance system really works, only the NWO has the rocket scientists capable of running the ship. America is the land of the modern zombie herd.

It is too late, America is now brain dead, and on auto-pilot, and the revolution is of the NWO and will expand their power in the US, already worse in the EU, and Russia and China will back the revolution, and be the NATO Overlords of their own NATO Unified Command theaters, for global rulership. The NWO may very well give America to Russia, China, or NATO, but it will all be NATO managed. Australia can fall under China anytime. We just do not know the NWO plan, but America as a nation, is powerless, it is under NATO NWO and any of their global partners-to-be in Russia or China, the NWO PALS.

The world war is all a ploy, to bring in Russia and China into the NWO in public manner, behind the scenes they have been NWO since before the League of Nations. They are all “in on it”, because the leaders of all these countries are “Sons of Satan”, and he knows no national or language barrier in his NWO Government royal families domains.

America has been, and will continue to be, an NWO tool. It was too late as far back as 1776. Giving people the revolution pie-in-the-sky, is so they put faith in revolution, rather than God and Christ. Very simple bait and switch, to continue the “freedom” illusion, when man must go under NWO, or God and Christ, and the choice is ours. There is no more nation-state “freedom”, we are in a new millennium, and new millenniums bring great changes.

The world chose the NWO, over God’s Kingdom in post 1914 leanings, and so God must let the world get, what it has chosen, but for only “one hour”. 80% of America is Pro NWO. ALL the rich “30%” are all NWO, the 1% is NWO. America will go NWO, like a teen ho captured by the new Rainmaker Super Pimp, and NATO, Russia and China will help bring down the 7th King US nation-state.

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[QUOTE who=”sidgi”]You know, you can be published on Amazon. Maybe even get paid for your books. [/QUOTE]

The goal is to give people all alternative view of a drawn out future that will see the full rise of the 8th King.

And that global rival is who kicks the fully awake, but just waiting Universal Lion of God. Then the 8th King and Satan can find out what a REAL GOD can do when his peace turns to war on them.

But he offers peace first, and that grand finale is going to take a little more time, and some big new millennium worthy global changes coming for the nation-state system of the old world order.

By it dragging on and on and on, God can reach more people by those earth shaking events coming.

(Haggai 2:7) 7 “‘And I will rock all the nations, and the desirable things of all the nations must come in; and I will fill this house with glory,’ Jehovah of armies has said.

BIG SALVATION MESSAGE is the goal. Christ has to become accessible to far more people than the Bethel Racket snare drum is allowing.

To give first proof, God will use the NWO to decimate Bethel and the JW org, first on His black list. (1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14)

That also takes a few years to fully unwind, but the GB will be tossed in the dump, defrocked, exposed and revealed for who they really are, for public perusal, and to offer their head on the pike, as a peace offering to all the whipped, beaten, raped, and robbed sheep of their tyrannical APOSTATE FORETOLD tenure. (Dan8:11-14; Dan11:30-32a)

It will be Daniel 11:41. The GB Goonsquad will tell JWs it is Dan11:44, so as to advance JW too far by false expectations. (2Thess2:1-2) And that is how JWs aid the JW org downfall, get stuck in the trap, and have it all smokescreened under their greenhorn noses as if “the end of the world brothers!”.

But as all shall see, and see they will, IT IS JUST THE END OF BETHELL APOSTASY.

The world will keep plodding along to world government, as usual.
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The “Pedophile Problem” is the international legal “in” to open the Bethel corporate legal system can of worms.

When they do that, the Rackets and Laundering Time Bomds will also be “discovered”, as the GB Frontmen, helped wire the WTBTS corporate network in the back end, by the shadow boards, with far more serious crimes in the eyes of the national powers.

Whereas Bethel is looking at a few billion in pedophile class actions, that would take years to unwind, but the rackets charges will bring in the ATF and state marshals that day, in similar national level international developments, as well, because rackets is where the real money is at.

And RACKETS is what Bethel has been up to fully, since 2001, but no doubt it roots back to the 80s.

Bethel is beign wired for Corporate Demolition, aided from within, it was an infiltration operation, and the GB Goonsquad of Circuslike Hypocrisy is the cover and Trojan Horse of the whole thing.

They will go down in infamy, as the lie that entity really is, from the getgo. The GB is how the ship was lost and timebombed. Their days are numbered. (Dan8:14)

The pedophile stuff, is just the lighting of the fuse. A storm is coming for Bethel. So they will just keep tellign JWs it is “the end of the world brothers!” for the exit strategy smokescreen. JWs will in time, find themselves amidst an Epic Apostasy Downfall Prophecy, as the 7th King falls, as the 8th King readies for Global Rise.

JWs will get an Ice Bucket Wakeup Call. (Matt25:1-13)

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[QUOTE who=”Lordylordy9111″]<quoted text>
Isn’t HAARP a NWO doomsday machine that has been placed in space by NASA? NATO protects all these activities.
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Yes, I think so. In the 21st Century War Model, having weapons arrays just 20 to 200 miles above Moscow, Beijing and Washington DC, is of course “the place to be”.

And this si why they are so confident with kicking China and Russia in the balls. They have an enormous NATO Military Order, on steriods since GWOT after 911, 2001. BUT that is all “20th Century Warfare Model”, they use it for the “Final World War” distracting play.

THEN, when they want to wrap it up, the bring out the 21st Century “Big Stick”, and it is precision energy systems, all over space and planet Earth. But Russia’s and China’s Demon Elites alerady know this, they just have to play their part in the World War play.

Now once the “nation versus nation” play ends, and their is no more need for natioanl sovereign war, the WHOLE WEAPONS COMPLEX, will be 100% under NWO Global NATO, and it can be used for its final true function: Controlled Massive Depopulation.

THAT is why Jesus said this:

(Matthew 24:6) . . .YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.

As long as their are nation versus nation wars, the end is not yet, because they will still be using the weapons system for the WW Play.

BUT, when that is done, and they go into UN 8th King King North “World Peace” )and security), THEN they can turn the weapons array on the “useless eaters”, and THAT is when it gets this dangerous:

(Matthew 24:22) . . .In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.

And THAT is why then, is when Christ arrives, when there are no longer “wars and reports of wars”, because the UN 8th King will be in that 1Thess5:1-3 “World Peace Everyone!” final mode.

That is how the implied Christ riddle of Matthew 24:6, is explained. It is not during the final world war, that Christ arrives. It is after it has completed, and entered the global signal UN World Peace phase. Because then they can turn the entire weapons system against humanity, and still say “freedom from care”, world peace and security.

And THAT is how they can “bring many to ruin” at the same time that they are also deploying the global “healing” recovery “freedom from care” of World Peace cover—AT THE VERY SAME TIME!:

(Daniel 8:25) . . .And in his heart he will put on great airs, and >>>DURING<<< a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken.

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[QUOTE who=”sidgi”]<quoted text>
Why would the Antichrist be more than a person? Was not the Christ a person? Explain scripturally and not with editorializing. Show the scriptures that prove that the Antichrist is more than a replacement for Christ. I cold see that those who choose to follow him might also be called in his name, but there was only one Jesus.
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(2 John 7) . . .For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.

The Corporate Church is the Anti-Christ embodiment.

The twist is many of them claim Christ came in the flesh. But that he never died, and thus never gave sacrifice of atonement to God, is hidden in church theologies of some of the stalled anti-Christ church systems.

As with Bethell, the task of the churches is to corrupt people searching for God and His Christ. To find God, one must leave all churches, read the Bible, and pray to God by means of His Christ, and that truth will set them free.

Faith in religion is just that, not the same as faith in God. FAITH in God, and religion, are not the same thing, and there is your anti-Christ.

If you are waiting for a dynamically evil Hollywood style “villain”, they may provide you with one, but World Government as a whole, is the ultimate final embodiment of Anti-Christ, because they will destroy Christendom, and assume the role of Global Savior.

And that is who Christ “drops in” on.

You have several years to eventually conclude this is the reality, of what world government means and will bring. The fall of the US and EU will be enormous, and it will aid awareness of what follows the fall of that 7th King system.

It is going all the way, but that is why the simplicity of complete and stated world government triggering Christ arrival, will in time, become comprehended by MILLIONS, if not BILLIONS of people, in time. God and Christ desire to SAVE people, not condemn and destroy them. That is the NWO task they love to do, when they can.

Bethell’s smashing from God, will be the first signal. (Dan8:13-14)

 

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[QUOTE who=”Maravilla”]<quoted text>Some how the equalization of belongings did not constitute supporting the GB with money to be used for their every whim.. Nor to cover court fees for sins committed by them or their minions. yet. it is a fact that that thus far.. they have shown a tendency to spend the members money in a some what flamboyant manner ..as if in fact it was their choice.. we do know that for a person or group to designate funds for a project or need.. is poo poed upon by the powers that be.. with the words that it may be used for something else they deem more important.
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JWs will keep putting up, until they are truly ROBBED BLIND.

Now go check Mormons and SDA. ONLY Catholics and Muslims motivate as much controversy as JWs. BUT, JWs are only 7 million bonded members. IF you took JW Scandal, per capita, and times it my Catholic and Islam numbers JWs are OFF THE CHARTS in scandal, hypocrisy and BAD POLICIES.

But there is a divine reason for this attention by many, on JWs. WHEN Bethell goes down, and JWs are robbed blind, lock-stock-and-barrel, the true explanation will then have a ready audience.

BUT, before the real apostasy story comes out from GOD, there will be much assumption and more premature expectations of Armageddon the arrival of Christ.

But when that all fails, within 6 years of the START of the true Bethel coup, the real story will emerge. And because JWs have 20 million people with them on radar, including them, and 14 million on it almost daily or weekly, and as many adversely affected who want to forget all about JW hypocrisy, the Bethel event, though not of to huge of proportions, will be big enough, with enough notoriety, to aid the final explanation, when God brings it forth.

And this is because JWs going down is Daniel 8:13-14, timd for our future proof, and that is Revelation 8’s temple judgment parallel. So when Bethel is SMASHED BY GOD, it will be Revelation 8-11’s FINAL FULFILLMENT CYCLE…

…JUST BEGINNING!

And that is why God will launder JWs Himself (Zech3:1-5), in full GLOBALLY public exposure and scrutiny, to call attention to what has just, by then, STARTED. (1Pet4:17; Dan11:41; Rev8:3-5)

It will be the beginning of the final cycle, thru 7th King downfall, to 8th King rise into World Government.

World Government triggers the Christ arrival.

And that is why calling attention to the start of the final cycle, is so important in the future, and why God has permitted JWs to become a GLOBAL joke and spectacle, for that purpose of global attention in the future.

8th King World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

THAT is the simple main point.

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Because Bethel will not divulge that SIMPLE SUMMARY, they are removed first in the process. Bethel is removed first, because Christendom goes down under world government (Rev17:15-18), their global scale is too enormous to be concentrated on at this time. Bethel is the perfect place for a prophetic proportions judgment to occur, and that first and soon. (Dan8:13-14; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5; Rev8:3-5)
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[QUOTE who=”abrothergoin”]<quoted text>
Alan it seems that every thing Rutherford did was wrong. What is wrong with going to Europe and other places to check on the friend every summer? That was Rutherfords job. [/QUOTE]

Sorry, true modern Bethel is a UN Apostate, on the global record since 2001, but I would give Rutherford 4 Beth Sarims and 4 Cadillac is I were God for all the crap he endured in those early 1917 WTBTS board of directors snake takeover attempts.

Rutherford held down the fort as long as he could, but by 1944 the “board of directors” introduced the “governing body” term FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, IN THE JW MINISTRY.

By 1971 they decided it was enough time to then blur the lines of distinction between the mundane corporate “board of directors” and the “governing body” term, made a capitalized title, they could apply as the Governing Body, ONLY in 1971.

By 1976 they backstabbed Fred and Ray Franz, and stole the WTBTS by coup. Thus this was the third attempt to coup the WTBTS, and in 1976, it was finally successful.

The Governing Body Experiment—1944 to Present
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/the-governing-body-experiment-1944-to-present/

1944 Governing Body Birthday—1914-1976 WTBTS Board of Directors Coup Finally Realized
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/1944-governing-body-birthday-19144-1976-wtbts-board-of-directors-coup-finally-realized/

1944: The Governing Body, UN Allied Apostate Leaders of the Implied “Wrong Condition” of Daniel 8:14
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/how-daniel-812-14-unright-condition-has-been-developed-by-the-profane-governing-body-since-1944/

Rutherford “died” in 1942, that is why the Snakes@Bethell had to wait UNTIL AFTER THE GUARD DIED, to introduce the GB RatCore.

Rurherford deserves a 777 Pound Gold Medal for securing it as long as he could, more power to him and GOD, his backer the whole time.

Rutherford was the toughest down to earth stalwart witness of the whole JW ministry, he kept the Bethel Rats in the board at bay, as long as he could.

Bethel: Apostates On Board

That is Rutherford’s Cadillac bumper sticker, I swear to odds.
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[QUOTE who=”array”]<quoted text>don’t understand why you said God will not arrive?
then you say Christ still will not arrive?
though I do agree with you on war, as it says reports of wars but the end is not yet, something that one needs to keep in mind where Christ said just like the days of Noah, everything seems ok people continue to marry and be given in marriage then suddenly that day is upon them, but its the increase of lawlessness that is the main issue as in Noah’s day wicked men violet with no regard for fellow human beings.
It is when they cry peace and security so everything will seem ok, the counterfeit world government is what people will look to for security but not true Christians they look solely to Gods kingdom, this is where one receives the mark of the beast.
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Well they BOTH drop in, this time:

(Revelation 1:7-8) Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen. 8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

So what I mean is the world will not end in a final world war. It has to be AFTER that darkening war resolves.

THAT is why Christ does NOT arrive in the tribulation of those days. He arrives AFTER the “tribulation of those days” has resolved on its own:

(Matthew 24:29-31) . . .“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

And that is when this next world war will have already ended. And that is why:

(Luke 21:9) Furthermore, WHEN you hear of wars and disorders, do not be terrified. For these things must occur first, but the end does not [occur] immediately.”

So, it is a riddle JWs cannot answer. How is it then, in inverse meaning: when there are NO “wars and disorders”, THEN the end WILL come?

Of course the main clue is in 1Thess5:1-3.

But as far as God, and Christ, arriving, they both arrive in the “no wars” period.

Of course the answer is, they arrive under COMPLETE World Government and its final “World Peace”.

And that is why what is coming up, is NOT “the end” or the “end of the world”, it resolves into the FOURTH UN presentation, as they become, the solution, to the global crisis.

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[quote=’Scimitar’ pid=’38971′ dateline=’1450022973′]
Yet Islam remains the only living bastion of hope against such a system of world wide slavery 😀

You guys are supposed to have brains, be vigilant – and you are falling for this BULL?

Oh kaay – I’m starting to recognise who the “cornflakes crew” here is 😀

Brilliant 😀

Scimi
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ANYONE Can Be SAVED—NO RELIGION Required!

Wow, think of that immediate freeing effect, whooooosh, fly!

Of course there are going to be “good intentions”, in fact the greatest of intentions, in the use of religion as the Trojan Horse of the NWO in its sector of use. Of course your religion alone is the only answer. Of course, same with the rest correct? It’s a no brainer, I thought.

You are already playing the NWO “Us Alone versus Them Infidels” (political) GAME FOR ALL RELIGIONS! That game does not “lead to heaven”, I can tell you that much—it leads to lies, misery, murder and dust.

But I point out mainstream Corporate Christendom is also being used, as all are all other religious “ant farms”, to keep the “red” and “black” ants occupied with their “missions from God”, while the NWO completes their mission for their god Satan, right under all the distracted religionists noses:

Corporate Religious Infiltration
http://vigilantcitizen.com/forums/Thread-Corporate-Religious-Infiltration

And I try to point out this is a typical global war cycle as the “vehicle of change”, this time at truly global scale in every dimension of crisis and conflict:

“Doomsday” or a Final Global Transitional Cycle?
http://vigilantcitizen.com/forums/Thread-Doomsday-or-a-Final-Global-Transitional-Cycle

Thus imo, you would be wise to find the God, by leaving your corporate “religious team” system of NWO leanings, to lead many to but more and more heartaches and disappointments.

I am not trying to start a new “holy war”, I am trying to wake up some people to the true magnitude of this global deception. IF a religion is but a “tribal label” for a global “soccer game” of political state system aiding murder and resource seizure, to enrich all the national and globalist elite bankers, warlords and politicians, then you should be able to surmise the god of all those religious errors is Satan.

We are big boys, and our eyes are open, and this world will head into the NWO, and into the Global Arena of God Almighty’s “arrival” to finish up this phase of sovereign struggle, with eyes opened wider than any period in all human history. This is the progressive context of eyes-wide-open global judgment maturing in all this.

The goal of religion is to CLOSE PEOPLE’S EYES to reality, to share communal accountability with the religious gangster-leaders of this Devil ruled world. Religions, in the mass corporate sense, have devolved into gangs and spiritual thugs in the corporate clerics “governing bodies”, but any individual in these cauldrons of lies, can be escape and be saved come Armageddon “Game Day” with the “Lord of Hosts”. And that is a host of conservatively 100 BILLION holy angels of God.

And this is why this cycle will drag on to the very skin of the global teeth: to appeal to ALL people for salvation.

And the NWO will indeed complete, and show up for the Super Bowl Event of All Time: Har-Magedon, and they KNOW what they are getting into.

In the interim, individuals stuck in religions, will even be given the opportunity to flee religion now, and even under World Government as the NWO will then crush all global religions, with a vengeance on an old “harlot”, and that liberation of all people, will free some to salvation.

Once religions are done selling World Government to everyone, for their Globalist Pimps, then that “harlot” global-spiritual-corporation is DONE as well. No longer needed, no longer useful, done. Simple to see.

The NWO plans to thin the global herd of BILLIONS of people, it is not God who purposes do do any such thing. God’s will is to depose the NWO, depose Satan and the demons to abyss, and save many people in this global period’s climax into World Government “World Peace” (1Thess5:1-3), a number of years from now, maybe even close to two decades of this transition into the NWO.

IN THAT GLOBAL PROCESS ANYONE, ANYONE, CAN BE SAVED.

Corporate religions, on the other hand, are here to tell all their captives, ONLY they will be saved. AUTOMATICALLY, that kind of presumption, STARTS A RELIGIOUS WAR! The truth is, God’s guaranteed salvation will be enormous, of many people, not by a “religious label”, plain and simple, but by on the intent of the heart. Love or hate. What does religion REALLY promote, love or hate?

See the conflict of interest there?

One does NOT need a “Religious Team Jersey”, to do good to all people and thus worship God and have faith in His laws of love. And one cannot equate “faith in religion” “as the same as” “faith in God”. In fact faith in religion is faith in a thing, and that religion thing is thus an idol.

You can exercise faith and obey God’s laws of love, right where you are, whenever you are, whatever you are, you need no “holy” idol house, or a “holy” idol religious corporate suit and logo, or “holy” idol Golden Calf leaders in powerless, calculating, dead, human, men.

Know the truth, BE FREE, BE you! Why be a puppet of religions? BE yourSELF!

Leave religion, find God.

To help people in the future, God will help discredit and then crash the religious system all around them, outlawed by NWO World Government decree, and He will save some from that global fallout. Many people must plummet into freefall confusions at that time, as the thing they have placed their faith in, vanishes by Global Government Law, right before their eyes.

THAT is where “religion” is headed: Global destruction by World Government.

There is ONLY GOD, in the end. There is ONLY God now.

Thus my belief is place our faith in HIM alone. And if you do so under Christ, more power to you. But if one has not such faith as of yet, then place your faith in GOD, and if we are trying to do His will of true peace and love, He WILL save those whose heart is contemplating good things for all creation.

(Romans 2:12-16) For instance, all those who sinned without law will also perish without law; but all those who sinned under law will be judged by law. 13 For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. 14 For whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15 They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or even excused. 16 This will be in the day when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare.

Thus I am of the belief God will save many people, REGARDLESS of their religious inclination, BUT we cannot be harming other beings of this planet to be found saveable. And we certainly cannot pledge allegiance to World Government 666. Murderers and predators have no real future, no matter what religions may teach to the contrary.

It is that simple.

8th King World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Religions are not helping God’s cause, they have been infiltrated and compromised for the things of this world.

It is that simple. Love our neighbor, for real, not just with lip. That is what it will ALL boil down to. Think BIG SALVATION for ANYONE, especially anyone who tries to be loving.
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[quote=’Semper Libera’ pid=’39144′ dateline=’1450090966′]
Yes, this narrative is being utilized by TPTB. It’s what’ll keep people afraid. Then big daddy government can come in, wrap his arms around you and save you from the boogeyman. It’s what’s needed to justify drone striking wedding parties, carpet bombing Doctors Without Borders, and a never-ending state of war.  
If you don’t know by now that ISIS is the handiwork of the CIA and not Islam, then you don’t get it in the first place. Islam and muslims are aiding in the formation of the NWO?  You mean the people most affected by this cabal of devils?  
I think we can deduce that these people aren’t invited to the afterparty. 
“You will know them by their fruit”
Yeah, like Hospitals and universities and coffee and stuff. Also being the group that gives the most to charity. 
That kind of fruit.
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THAT is the general “problem”-to”reaction”-to-“solution” formula.
And think of this, JUST AS WAR is an engineered, created, GLOBAL CONTROLLED PRODUCTION for this very FORMULAIC AND CYCLIC effect, when they need to sell world government, they can JUST AS EASILY engineer “world peace”.  REMEMBER that fact. It is ALL engineered for EFFECT on human global-psychology and mass global emotional “reaction”. Because this time, it is global in every possible dimension of instability and engineered conflict, not just military “war”, but all versus all in everything: religious, gender, social, financial, economic, political. And of course, in time, global military war.
“Global War on Everything”, in reality.
War or “world war” IS the same overall “engine” as “world peace”; it is just not yet time for that phase of the process, but it is ascertainable it is possible.
And guess what?
By then, as the world war passes, again (for the fourth time as a formulaic cycle to sell and present the UN Core “Solution” the US, EU, Russia and China (and everyone else) will all “become one”*** in “Peaceful Global NATO” finality, probably “rebranded” and finally renamed to go along with their “World Government Spiffy and Globally Super-Hopeful Packaging” for the “Global Saviors”, “For Everyone!”. **([1])
And then, the entire global weapons system, will be in NWO hands, 100%
And then, they can “bring many to ruin” “during a freedom from care” (Dan8:25) of global recovery (Isa41:1) and “World Peace and Security” (1Thess5:1-3), because now the global weapons and precision energy system network, in space and earth, can be used for its final true function:
Engineered Systematic Massive Global Depopulation, in full mode of global application.
They will run the media and all nation-state politics 100% (not just today’s 70%), so they can do BOTH, depop, and “world peace everyone!”, simultaneously, , and no one will be the wiser and some of those who are will put up or else. (Rev13:15-18)
Final function military system is logical, because by that global monopoly time period, there will be no need for, war to distract, a global formula to run, or for nation versus nation sovereign conflict, it is all done—ALL the nations will finally be fully globally “unified” and “gathered” (Rev16:13-16) by terminal globalization completing, into World Government.
And in that scenario, that is when God would be required to manifest to end the folly for good. (Matt24:21-22) Before that time, by hook or crook, the place has chosen the NWO, and will get the NWO it has chosen to serve, for a limited time. (Rev17:13)
But for those with Bible prophecy interest, we can now speculate on the meaning of this riddle:
(Matthew 24:6) you are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is NOT yet.
Then when does Christ arrive? What gives there? “There has ALWAYS been wars, and there always will be wars”, is what some may surmise.
But in reality of modern power, wars and world wars are engineered, and so can “world peace” be engineered, as both are for a specific psychological effect (though different), and phase in global development.

For those with interest in prophecy possibilities, that is why Christ does not show up during world war and “reports of war” in nation versus nation typical conflicts, known for all human history. He shows up during NWO “World Peace” pushing World Government completion timing, deep in the final cycle completion. (1Thess5:1-3; Dan8:25)

[1] Global NATO Unified Command Structure
As an example of the foreknowledge of Russia and China’s role in the World Government Military Sector, do we think this perfect distribution, of Russia and China in their own very convenient global sectors, is just accidental:
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Thus the World Government Military Unification Monopoly is already staring us square in the face. It is just a matter of time, to wind down this final global war cycle, to resolve it into a UN engineered “World Peace”. 

Thus the purpose of this final global war cycle, is run it to the full, and then resolve it at “global unification” scale, to attempt to sell “the world government solution”, under the most hopeful global “turn around” ever. Because when this “upswings” from the worst “doomsday” expectation period of all human history, then the the zenith of global hopefulness, to sell the decoy—and that first, will climax into that intended and engineered outcome.
This is because the global-psychology of that coming global hoax-doom expectation, aided by a huge global war crisis to eventually be globally transformed into the super-hyped-admiration (Rev13:3; Rev17:8) of the “solution”—World Government— and its obligatory World Peace everyone!!!!, is the global mass emotional target to also maximize to great global hope, to encourage people to accept world government, at global scale.
It is GLOBAL “trauma based programming” in GLOBAL “live and real-time” form, employing the same classic Hegelian Dialectic “problem”-“reaction”-“solution” FORMULA many are now familiar with, but now played out at truly GLOBAL FINAL CYCLE scale. 

Now, the NWO are predictable, by more than just prophecy and geo-strategic forecasting. WW1 used this formula (1914-1919), WW2 used it again (1936-1945), the Cold WW3 used it’s “atomic doomsday” priming psychology (1947-1990), (still useful for this finale fourth cycle), and this is the FOURTH CYCLE they are running this global cyclic formula, AGAIN, for the same UN Presentation that also capped off those former three world war cycles, including the “cold” cycle of the Cold World War.

But this time, it is going to be WORLD GOVERNMENT, not just the United Nations Nucleus, but the WHOLE THING!

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I would argue that it is not all bad. Religion can help people make changes to their lives for the better and actually open peoples eyes to reality, if used in the right way. You still consider yourself a Christian despite what you said otherwise you wouldn’t quote the Bible.

If you agree with this, then I don’t care about what you call yourself, I will call you my brother (or sister).
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Likewise brother, that is the “generic” base TRUTH. In its most generic form, of life, all humans are brothers and sisters. THAT is the target to disunify. But because Christendom has given us “Christians” such a horrid reputation, and much stereotypic reactions, all understandable I assure you, please allow me to try to describe why I call it a FAITH, not a “religion” whatsoever. And you wont find much of that “faith” in Christian “religions”, individuals have to make the step, same with other religions. Personally choosing the way of love, is a personal choice, even for non-religious people. ANYONE can be saved, ON THE SPOT, come that day.

And, in its most generic form, GOD is the greatest ‘least common denominator’, and the reality: so that even an atheist, I MUST love as best I can, for their eventual awakening to the reality. They have a future-faith that is coming, even if in the Planetary Restoration of all of Planet Earth’s Life System, ALL OF IT. My FAITH is the entire Earth will be SAVED, not one ant will be lost. NOT ONE. A million years of advancement is what comes in the “1000 Years”, a 1000 years as this world knows it, would not be sufficient. Man has lost a million years, in 6000 years.

If we are going to think GOD, we might as well think BIG, and EXERCISE FAITH beyond the little “you are crazy” doubts and fears that plague the common man like a spiritual leprosy, ALL BASED ON DOUBT. DOUBT IS NOT FAITH. Religions are about DOUBT, faith in DOUBTS, as why we need to kill and take it all NOW, because I doubt we are really “going to heaven”. Well what if you never died? Are we really in such a big rush to “go to heaven”?, or is all just the team hype for the monkey-see-monkey-do which is the staple of religious teams?????

WHY beat around the bush with this God “thing”? Right? WHY tow the party line? WHY? WE GOT GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now of course we have to obey HIM, not men. That is the ONLY “catch”. Hence Satan’s tricks. Now I tell you this, I am not here to attack Islam, or Joe Blow’s religion, or Christendom, or any individual. I am here to expose the truth, that just as the media and political system as a whole subverted unit, though comprised of some parts in ignorance, so too the religious overall trajectory and NWO GLOBAL SUBVERSION.

It is the same thing.

If I recount the many harlotries of my best friend’s “innocent” girlfriend, why should the recounting of her notches, be all re-construed as an attack on her? If I recount the crimes of Ted Bundy, is his record the source of my attack on him? Am I not just going over the REALITY of Ted Bundy? Was he framed? No, the EVIDENCE and RECORD assures all, Bundy did kill a lot of innocent women.

And so when we look at the HISTORIC record of what is now the big main religious MONOPOLIES of the minds of men, we will come across ugly truths, which very recollection in writing or speech, is so horrid, so as to be mistakenly assumed as an attack. Now had I gone in and subverted religions to be sly promoters, or overt promoters, of harlotries and murders for state profit, THEN I am attacking religion. And the NWO is who is that real “attacker”. Just as a serial killer may be suave and enticing to a victim, so to the NWO and its courting of religion with bling and compliments, a protected secret bank account, a nice car and lavish apartment for the once gorgeous and talented little hooker called “religion”, all NWO subsidized and milking the cows it leads for more. But now religions are an old hooker, everyone knows they did state porn, all over the internet now, all over global history. What war has no religious underpinnings to justify itself?

And so VigilantCitizen has exposed for some to understand the formulaic “mind control” process, which your Alex Jones types are merging in certain key areas of the explanation of the nearly unperceivable, yet ALL pervasive system of GLOBAL BEHAVIOR CONTROL. Even your semi conservative researchers and experts like Paul Craig Roberts and Catherine Austin Fitts are all explaining overlapping dimensions of this same system as is David Icke. The common thread is global control with the world government goal, by at first secretive scientifically backed, and technology applied social control systems which mature to that said end.

We have two dimensions, the cyclic “problem” to “solution” “let no crisis go to waste” overall, infiltration by corporate access, and the trauma in the “problem” to base the mass psychological manipulation. That triad is always at work, especially post 911, and it is global in various specialized “state corporation” government controlled manner, where the government is just an NWO puppet by way of the stratified elite tiers.

Thus to “help” the public start to “identify” the “problem”, the Doc Globalist must expose the devices that display their symptoms to the masses on a scheduled program. And religions are not immune to this controlled process, or to being infiltrated from years ago, to meet the actually demon-angelically designed purpose for the same end of global government TOTAL control as the guaranteed eventuality of all this process. Thus the globalists can “shed their skin” in the nation-state “problems” and in some of their own core institutions “problems”, all IDd well beforehand as the problem, so when they present the already prepared “solution” this leads to, they can scrap the nation-state “problem” political corruption and religious corruption sectors, amidst cheers and hoorays, as those problems are what are now being identified in this process.

The “crisis” the “problems” cause, forms the already formulized mass “reaction”, to arrive at the “solution” as if the masses already knew “the solution” the whole time; it is their big idea, so they accept the already well implied “solution” of the Global Babysitter. That is why the “problem” starts to be revealed incrementally, well before the “crisis” really goes full blown, so that in it the engineered mass “reaction” to the to-be-provided-solution, the whole is guided, as if they already knew “the solution”, the “solution” is accepted as if it is their own “great idea”.

Thus all information, released in controlled doses, still serves the NWO agenda, even while they are being exposed from the periphery, but we can know these Global Formulas are active, and where the religious development is being used in a similar process; just specialized for that sector of the social control and “dramatic” “crisis” context, division and instability it reliably, formulaically and scientifically produces, with the same end goal: World Government, brought in amidst the cheers of the well pre-identified “problem” downfall of the religious complex, just like the nation-state “old world order” system.

But unlike the nation-state and its many sub-systems, still required, just re-aligned under a global sovereign enforcer, religion is truly going to be no longer viable, nor necessary for the future NWO goal of a “one world religion” based on Satan, emerging from behind his many religious masks. And I am meaning over the next 10 years verging into 20. Not overnight, not tomorrow, but eventually, it is being eroded by design, and its is a global sand castle losing traction.

(But, there will be enough left to present the “Israel” “Christendom” “Zion” “Kingdom of God” cloak, of tumble-down-the-stairs failing prophecy, landing on its feet again, as if world government is that Zion Panacea, and “Israel” is its crown jewel, and all that failed prophecy, is “still applicable to World Government after all everyone!”. Now the prophecy is valid, but Christendom and Israel will apply it all too soon, in their endless damage control requirements, and it will be pasted upon NWO World Government, to sell that as if “God’s Kingdom Utopia on Earth Everyone!” The religious “afterimage” is enormous, even if religion is dwindling, so this effect will have a mass psychological effect, because religions have tattooed this on the mass mind, even if they never set foot in a church or Synagogue.)

So, I am also identifying the “problem” that the NWO is knowing will occur, but with the intent of offering GOD as the ultimate true “solution” not a reborn jalopy of error which is all the NWO can engineer: MORE OF THE SAME OLD SNAKE, with a new skin.

NOW, the tide is turning on ‘Daddy’s Little Girl’ religion, and now the religious majority is tilting to a global minority, and the real “bodies” of the global record, of what is buried in their basement, is seeping out. As with Renaissance era Reformation, and the distaste, for some, of the Catholic religious farce, to produce the full “enlightened” nation-state “solution”, and as with the disgust at nation-state politics, religion is being IDd as “a problem”, for the same end.

And it serves the same purpose, to get the religious-harlot blacklisted by the majority, to end, the end of the process of deposition, amidst global hoots, cheers and hoorays globally, to amplify the “Utopian” “Golden Age” “world peace” super-hype to come, with world government. Like the nation-state dirty politicians, the big religious complex is being morphed and exposed, slowly but surely, to aid their co-downfall from global power. It is NOT accidental. It works like charm to produce that final global reaction, to catalyze that big global solution coming.

THE PROBLEM is being exposed now, so when the global crisis needs a scapegoat, in this case a truly complicit and partially guilty one, the “reaction” will be ALREADY global-psychologically aimed at the World Government Super Solution: for the majority of that time. This just takes a number of years to morph into final form. Religion is headed for the black list of all time, they are already on it, they are being setup for systematic scheduled disposal, so people cheer their removal, en masse, while it is occurring, aiding the process if need be.

So my study here, is just informing people, the nation-state system is slated for the final transformation, the last re-engineering, and when that completes into world government, the religious complex will no longer be needed. But it will be properly pre-villianized and exposed for disposal to amplify the relief and the hopeful cheers of many non-religious entities, who will be glad to see her go. The psychological effect of the removal of religion, is the real “good news” to many, and “many” will be the majority, as religion will be discredited, and will lose what little it has, in these last years.

Not all will mourn religions downing, and of those who do, many mock-mourning it, for selfish reasons of gain lost, with that final boosting wealth transfer. They are just looking for the “bigger better deal”, and World Government will provide that deal, not religions, who have also been looking for the bigger better deal, and helped turn people into the same kind of attitudes: sell outs. World Government NEEDS sell outs, so they can buy them, literally, come global recovery time. It is INDIVIDUALS that are being targeted by the use of collective religion. And believe it or not, it will be the true minority come full NWO time of World Government.

Like an old harlot, religions are dying, but the NWO will perform the final euthanasia. The full set of failed prophecies, due to arrive over these next ten years or so, no rapture, no doomsday, instead World Government, their engineered “world peace”, and GLOBAL CELEBRATION OF TOTAL RELIEF! will be the death knell, but for the ast religious die hards.

Thus all the more reason for people to place faith IN GOD, not religion, nor the NWO “Kingdom”. GOD remains forever! And ONLY God can depose the NWO, they are going to hit this world like a global hurricane and tsunami and sweep away the nation-state “old world order” as allowed by God, and designed and backed by Satan, and he is not just some typical angel, we know that much, he commands an array of ancient demon genius. He, is who is coming in, with the NWO, to play his final “God” decoy role, and the real God will let him, because the world, by hook or crook, has chosen King Satan. It is what it is; sold out, by formulaic process, over decades, even centuries.

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I believe in God. In that most generic form of FAITH, I could be qualified for many “religious” labels. If I believe in Christ, the label gets more specific and narrowed. Yet the generic FAITH in God, I share with many people globally. All religion did was divide off, and automatically destroy such a potential true unity ALREADY there, but now lost to human perception, influenced by religious devolution—in time. And many may say, God did that at Babel! What gives? Because it delayed a world government already being born on the Shinar Plains 4000 years ago. God delayed the inevitable to complete the global super-cycle, and to save many people by the climax time for that inevitability. (Hag2:7) We are now at the threshold of that climax epic period going full blown.

All religion does is delay the process by division, yet division aids the conquest. The division, it is still at work, and the division in time has been utilized by the enemy system. Satan can play Global Chess too. But God doesn’t play, He is the Master of it all, He is doing it for required completion, and to save many, in the process. Satan must run his course to full “King of the World”, first. Then, look out, and place your FAITH in God, there won’t be a religion found on Earth, when Satan is Kinged atop the NWO.

Religions and the nation-state systems are like fruit, they do NOT get better with time, they get worse. It is what it is. And like fruit, but worse, the global religious complex has an NWO “expiration date” and divine “shelf life”, and so does the nation-state.

So my point is, when I can express it, to me FAITH and “religion” are not the same thing. Nor am I a Christian, as a “religious team”, blah blah. It is an unseeable REALITY to me, even “Christian” is a label of what is something not seen, in its most basic, even non-religious term. It is even almost not stated in the Bible in fact. As the word “religion” is absent entirely. So my goal is to not fuel the divisions, but expose the whole lump of religion as THE SAME THING. Like David Icke once said, “all religions serve the same dark force”.  “Symbols Rule the World, Not Words or Law”. But words have aided giving those symbols their non-graphical meaning, and “religion” is one of those words.

See, God “boils down” to REALITY. You can’t “see” him directly, but He is more and bigger than ALL REALITY. Religion is a mentally-visual symbol and myth ruled DISTRACTION, from that unseeable reality, to give people something they can see, and “identify with”. Some people lose all faith, if they lose their visible, branded, all comfy, maternal, religion boon. Why not just “identify” with God. You, I and all have that freedom to do so, RIGHT NOW. WHO EVEN NEEDS A RELIGION? WHY NOT EXERCISE REAL FAITH, in the invisibility, yet reality of GOD ALMIGHTY? It is like finding out I can breathe, with no need of a church or a religious boon and gas chamber. Yes, connecting to God is as easy as BREATHING AIR. Do you need the state or religion to breathe air? (Well they are CO2-hype-trying aren’t they?)

THAT is FAITH, and IT IS that easy. And it can be done, by a personal decision to do so.

Think that religion ho likes being outed and called NEEDLESS and USELESS? Heck no, then she would really be broke and on the street!

FAITH has no religious barriers, and barriers they are, to separate people from God’s generic reality. Religion is for RELICS. A Legion of Relics. Well, God is no “relic”. Satan is the relic of religions. “Religion” is ultimately a relic, and is useless in the long run, of no value to God, or to men, once it wears off. True, God confused the languages, BUT SATAN invented the religions. The Mosaic Law was a COVENANT, A FAITH,  a DEAL WIT GOD, not the “religion” it morphed into, and still is, but the covenant ceased, it all wore out. Why are Abraham’s children all hating and killing each other?

RELIGION; and its doctrines of men. THAT is why.

Religion will wear off in time, because it is a LIE from day one. And wear off it will. I would hope you walk away from this article with more FAITH IN GOD (period), regardless of the religious bull that works against man’s basic faith in God that they were BORN WITH—and the UNITY that could be there, but is now divided for states. See how that works?

From the time a man is born, with natural faith, SCHOOL AND RELIGION is the tool to jackhammer the faith in God out of their hearts, and install faith in state and religion, BOTH doomed and dead entities; and why? TO KILL FOR STATE WEALTH INCREASE. Nothing more, and nothing less.

Why not, instead, SEE 100,000 years into the future RIGHT NOW! NONE of this state or religious system crap is here, NONE OF IT, not one screw, not one glass shard, not one piece of rubber, not one atom of misplaced elemental “pollution” NOT ONE! ALL GONE in that FUTURE sure to arrive, already there, that assured. The NWO’s pieces are all atomized and flowing in the Earth’s magma mantle subterranean ocean, melted down and recycled to the pure parts, all gone, gone, GONE. THANK GOD. When He gets done with them, it will be like they never even existed at all, when one then, looks into the past.

SEE 1 MILLION YEARS INTO THE UNSTOPPABLE FUTURE RIGHT NOW!!! SEE IT?

Heaven and Earth are actually SEAMLESS, so there is no reason to think God has never flown in a hawk, or has lost count of your heartbeats, or is not right with you right NOW. ONLY Satan is here to create doubt, and try to slip in, ACTING like God—TEACHING men to murder and lie. He is no more, not even a round 1000 years from now does he last. NOTHING. even now! FAITH is how we see these REALITIES NOW! They are coming, they cannot be stopped, they cannot be slowed, they cannot be reversed. If the NWO uses religions like a ho, then Satan is who runs them now.

Thus RELIGION has automatically robbed people of the FAITH and UNITY of GOD—by their very existence and persistence, THEY are who want to be worshipped, THEY are who want to play God, THEY are God’s rival, a mere temporary idol. Me and you, for example share the same FAITH in God. By being born into a world whose state power uses “religion” to cordon people off for war and MURDER, we automatically allowed the STATE, to divide us off. Religions are harlots of state, as repositories of enormous wealth and the handy “state pimp” protection of it, which massive hard wealth, will aid the WORLD GOVERNMENT recovery cycle.

The GLOBAL STATE is who will “inherit” ALL religious wealth, the harlot is pillaged and deposed, in the end.

That 500 trillion in the Harlot’s “bank account” and global estate, is NOT there for no reason, it is a nice little protected wealth store, the globalists can tap after hell on earth has resolved into their big World Government Parade, and most of it will be all nice, shiny, and very very well kept, by the then dead Madame aka, Religion. Why manage all the global wealth, when you got the little religious corporate ho to do some of the slave work for you, right?

Go and try to research religious assets and values. It is very difficult—try it some time. It is like trying to find out the phone number and address of a political mistress. Because it is the same thing, and religions are storing a TON OF PROTECTED AND SECRET LOOT, for NWO future uses, and it will come in handy, when it is time to pick up the nation-state off its foot kissing face after this cycle is done with the nations. The nation-state is the NWO “wifey” and the religions are the kept, well heeled, private dancer that the NWO is cheating with, and stashing a few hundred trillion in loot within. All managed by the little ho, and she watches every last SECRET penny, religiously.

And I mean “in the end” of the “old world order” and its nation-state devices, but the beginning of the “new world order” final crystallization. This is how I already know the eventual fate of the Islam Puppet, it is in the NWO formula and agenda. But because Christendom Puppet is its “harlot” older sister, I know the fate of that “harlot” is the same fate, to be meted out by a scheduled, produced and directed play, by a complete world government, to also mete out a related sovereign fate on the nation-state; each in its own part in the play.

But with the nation-state, it is just “realigned” to the new. With religions, they are to be pillaged and decimated, with nothing left over in any sovereign system—NOTHING—not so much as one scrap, not one “cross”, is the intent. Now there are some nation-state institutions heading for that total removal too, true, but religions going down, en masse, will aid salvation liberation, as ironic as it sounds, it goes down before the total end. (Rev14:1-8; Hag2:7; Rev11:13)

This whole thing is formulaic, such as Islam’s and Christendom’s reluctantly mutual functions, yet different, but complimentary, for the NWO agenda, all “orchestrated” for the final Global Play—all designed to amplify World Government and its final “World Peace” pitch. God is ALSO going to take advantage of the process, for the diametric purpose of salvation.

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Thus when I read Revelation 17:8-18, which no religion will touch with a ten foot pole, NONE OF THEM, I read with FAITH in the simple meaning of the prophecy as it contains the very deposition of the nation-state and the religious harlot, in one fell swoop of the “one hour” of world government. Now the “wild beast”, “ten kings” and “harlot” are “interpretive” characters, but obviously the modern pattern is world government, the nation-state and religions, respective, the rest of that prophecy explains itself—the PLOT is SIMPLE. It is as in your face OBVIOUS, as obvious as is Daniel 11:42-43 as far as the basic meaning of world power transference of final power.

They are BOTH literal in much of their descriptive phrasing—they both match globalism key processes of power transference. As OBVIOUS as Daniel 11:42-43 is, as a global transference of global wealth into “King North” NWO monopoly, is as obvious as is Revelation 17:11-18 being a transfer of final global sovereignty. And in that order as well: FIRST: Global Wealth control, which leads to; LAST: global sovereignty control. Very simple. Wealth is the power core. Gold is the sovereignty “baseplate”, and gold in the 200,000 metric ton reality. The “gold markets” you see, and the “global gold quantity” purported to exist, are falsified. There is more real gold than is told, and the gold in the markets is bubble gold, and much of it is digital FICTIONAL gold, which traces back to THIN AIR. It is a SCAM. The gold is in NWO hands, because Gold is the basis of human tangible power foundations, from the beginning. (Hence Daniel 11:42-43 final easy-to-see meaning)

Right in those prophecies in black and white, that explicit. NOTHING is “interpretive” about World Government assuming all wealth and global sovereignty in the real world, or in those two BLATANT prophecies. IT IS HAPPENING, RIGHT NOW, IN FRONT OF OUR FACES. And that is like 200 words, 1/100th of the Bible, if that. WHO can screw up, and silence, 200 SIMPLE words, coming true before your every eyes, RIGHT NOW!? Christendom, that’s who.

Thus religions avoiding and ignoring key formulaic globalism prophecy, like the freakin plague, like those two prophecies above, and Revelation 16:13-16 as another simple “globalization=gathering” example, as obvious as well, , MUST BY NOW BE ON PURPOSE, It is THAT simple. Christendom is a CONTROLLED TOTAL MIND CONTROL INFILTRATION. No need to beat around the bush here any longer. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

A religion is not going to be able to help me understand, the simple process that takes place in the world NOW ACTIVE in initial setup, is also the simple process that takes place in Revelation 17:8-18 (or Daniel 11:42-43); we need to arrive at it on our own. It is so simple a smart seven year old can understand those prophecies.

But why cannot Christendom’s thousands of 50 and 70 year old clerics not see the demise of their corporate “harlot” in that same Revelation 17:8-18 prophecy of the future? Because like Jehovah’s witnesses (JWs) by their own “governing body” misleading infiltration, they will not comment on that prophecy except with fantasies (or dated context), and will not apply it to their compromised house. They will NOT expose their true Global Masters in the NWO. JWs are full NWO now, too.

(And for future proof you can “witness” with your OWN EYES, JW Organization is slated for removal first, with the initial portion of the US EU sovereign downfall phase. You will see that in the near future, and it foes on a few years. (Dan8:13-14))

The last “religion” that tried to explain that Rev17:8-18 prophecy, was JWs. They did so with the correct United Nations formulaic presentation theme (of WW2-to-UN; 1945, dated, long past), as the UN Core always “ascends” from the “abyss” of a world war, to present themselves, in all cases so far, AFTER the world war crisis passes. (WW1, WW2, Cold War)

But in time, Jehovah’s “Christian” Witnesses, to use their “religious” label in “Christian”, stopped explaining that prophecy, in light of the modern GLOBAL FORMULA present in the simple “story” of that prophecy. Revelation 17:8-18 is a cyclic global formula of power consolidation finalizing. Very simple for globalism understanding people to see. Rev17:8-18 can easily be applied to the coming final global cycle, in the formulaic principle it demonstrates in plain writing, to culminate in the the final World Government “rise” presentation and deposition of the nation-state sovereignty, and its by then no longer needed “religious” harlot.

IT IS THAT SIMPLE!

Now you can go to EVERY Christian “religion” on Earth, and NOT ONE of them can ascertain that Revelation 17:8-18 MUST BE the final global cycle! Are you, am I, WHO is going to trust a black-holes-for-eyes, dead skull, called the Christendom Clergy, to tell me NOTHING about world government , NOW! when we NEED it?

The final sovereign progression to world government, is in but seven Bible chapters in Daniel 2,7,8,11-12, and Revelation 13 and 17. I mean about two pages. And those “full time Bible studiers” in JWs and Christendom, cannot even keep up to date with RAMPANT MODERN Globalism’s projection of COMPLETION, and coming WORLD GOVERNMENT, NOW HAPPENING-RIGHT NOW!!!!! so as to run down those couple of pages of EASY-TO-SEE and structural prophecy-to-history outlines a CHILD could comprehend????? SO EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND!

THEY ARE NWO SOLD OUT HARLOTS!!!!

And we think such a spiritually DEAD catatonic malaise and COMA, with all this known NWO infiltration and SECRETIVE global shenanigans, now misleading a BILLION PEOPLE like a ring in the cow nose, is just coincidence? Just accidental? Of no real importance? Oh please, you “conspiracy theorist” crazy? Then we have also shot the OD of the NWO Religious Heroin too. But there is time, we can wake up. It is more likely, NO ONE just squarely told us to our face, what this MEANS!

And we think Islam? Oh it must be so different there because Christendom is such a bankers harlot! Islam just has to be the answer! They are so darned down to earth, so free of usury, wow! Their trillionaire Oil Goons, all lubed into the GCC and the self same Anglo NWO Banker and Weapons Machine, all aiding it all just like China, geez, I forgot about all that! Nope, Islam’s duped masses are just as fooled as Christendom’s, and their Islam Clerics and Elites are all rolling in sin, harems and weapons with the NWO oil. And why? They are in one NWO Brothel House. They are just two fighting little street hookers squabbling over the same corner at UN Boulevard and 666 Oil Avenue.

THEY BOTH work the same NWO racket!

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Thus I will opt to agree with GOD, in people’s generic agreement that they have FAITH in that God. And they do not need a “house”, or other “visualization aid” to “see” God. OBEY, that simple. And they certainly do not need a fallen human “middle man”, a collective sold out “religion” momma, to get connected to God. He is right in their very Life Force, IN every breath we take!

But as you know, not everyone is that strong in faith, to “see” God with no visual aids, with no Jihad, with no Crusade and no hand holding by a “holy man” momma. And for those who have come to believe Christ is the perfect immortal intermediary for them to God, that is great, but it does not mean I do not share FAITH with those who have FAITH in God, in its more generic form, who do not appreciate that person as yet. It make NO DIFFERENCE to me, we can still share FAITH in God. I AM NOT GOING TO HATE A JEW, MUSLIM, CHRISTIAN OR STRIPPER, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT 100% ON THE SAME PAGE, just because some corn fed religion brain-dead profiteering clerics or “church goers” tell me too. I can’t even hate them, according to my God! LOL Time for brass tacks, walk it, I guess.

And this is because if Satan is trying to capture, corrupt and destroy all human beings, by default God MUST assess all human beings with the diametric purpose set in opposition to Satan, at ALL times—for people’s general salvation. That means the generic human being, who may be ignorant of God or of Christ, is still assessed for salvation, because God is owner of all, not an angel. And by the time Christ is “Re Genesising” (Matt19:28) all creation in Genesis 2.0 Global, many years from now, the point will be moot.

IGNORANCE, as ironic as it is, has SAVED many people (Acts17:30), they must still be “re-created” in spiritual perfection—by default! Spiritual Physics! Being born into death, from conception, is no opportunity. The real opportunity comes in the Re-creation. NOW why would one expend so much effort to “acquire the price, paid” to NOT make the freaking purchase!!!!!! It flies in the face of all church logic!!! THEY have dozed off. (Matt25:1-13)

But as you know, now is not a time of ignorance, like it used to be. Now is a time of global eyes wide open isn’t it?

Yet God is the “memory” of “reality” in all cases, regardless of the context, and when the NWO is dusted, and Satan is canned, then the REALITY begins. And it is no overnight affair. And if men cannot understand the requirement of the “re-creation” of ALL LIFE on earth, then we need not look to their judgment, or memory, or wisdom. It is GOD, not men, who has to recall “two sparrows” that have fallen (Matt10:29-31), for God is not “remembering” anything for no good reason, but for life forever. (Ps133; Eze47:9)

And so if man is worth more to God than “many sparrows”, is it to say they have no value to God? (Ecc3:21, Solomon asked the same question: now we know the answer:) To the contrary, they have life value and UNIVERSAL REQUIREMENT to exist, and are required in the REBIRTH of the planet, to be “gathered” in perfect Creation, and in no way is Satan stealing any life from God—not one ant. In fact Satan loses his own life, when the final justice comes. The current human condition has been under the Liar’s tutelage for 6000 years, of course mankind knows nothing, and have about a tenth of a volt of faith left, IF that! OF COURSE it is crazy and ridiculous to lost human beings!! OF COURSE!!

But, a point is, GOD is no angel, He is the REALITY of EVERYTHING, TOTAL ETERNAL RECALL, PLUS.

So if some angels well know every atom, microbe, cell, in every ant, bird, fish and dog (etc, etc) that has existed from times long long before mankind, in their network function, and God can “recall” them in in every detail of REALITY, in even their angelic overseen TOTAL “existence”, to even be able to restore a human or angelic persons entire being, thoughts and memories, FROM “NOTHING”, FROM NON-EXISTENCE, then we know the human restoration is well beyond human ability to understand (even beyond the collective of every angel in existence). And if it was to be dependent on human, and human “wisdom”, power, records, judgments, religions, will and memory, NO ONE WOULD BE SAVED, Satan would exterminate all life on Earth—FOREVER.

THAT is the human reality not yet matured, but well on the way. THAT is what all this NWO “Skynet”, “The Singularity”, and Depopulation Agenda hints are all about in reality!

THAT is the course the NWO has man on, and that would be the reality as the NWO TOOL is as good as “Satan on Earth”, their designer and father, for fullest “I/O” access to planet Earth, since Genesis 6, and in some ways more complete than Enoch-to-Noah’s day. Thus, there will be no religion in the restoration, it is NOT required as an “institution”. But FAITH in God, can save people, and even FAITH from the future, that is not yet present in a savable person now, but in “retroaction” of this divine guaranteed “projection”, can save. FAITH IS FOREVER. FAITH IS NOT A RELIGION, IT IS REALITY.

Because many in ignorance never have had the faith, but they are not lost, as neither is a single ant of creation. And, with the NWO, first, there will be but one religion of earth, in the brief zenith of the burnt out NWO Global Goonship, (symbolic “one hour”, Rev17:13) religions will reap the thing they actually have sown: the works of a spiritual call girl, for NWO services rendered. And if people could see God, they would need no Religious Microscope or Telescope to broadcast a fake picture of God for them. Religions are a two-timing call girl, stroking the NWO and the Cow’s ears, at the same time! FOR MONEY AND POWER!

THE REAL THING EXISTS and has always existed, we do not need “a religion” to “paste the moon to a picture of heaven”, so “all the little pigs have God”.

Printing and distributing their holy books is really all religions have done to enlighten man, in the long run. OK, they did some other good, accidentally, BUT many INDIVIDUALS have been people of love and faith, not the fakes the collective institution has become. True, I am not here to play God who knows every day of all created beings, in exact detail to the spinning of an atom’s parts. They have had brief tenures of moral integrity as collective ministries, as well. To see the light, one must open the cover of that book though. Religions can only go so far, and only get so much light, in the end they are harlots of world government, and end up keeping people in DARKNESS, out of date, on the WRONG ROAD. What people need, people have. Their own holy books they can glean, to find where their religions foul the very rulebook they claim to honor. And from there, they can ID and flee their religions for what they are, go outside, and see God BY FAITH, not the black tar pitch that the religious pit is. The can breathe God in, as easy as breathing itself, no religion required. AT some point the training wheels pop off, and relgion is that rickety broken training wheel.

All that is needed is GOD. PERIOD.

In time religions will once again all join the bloodbath of global communal guilt, it is what the harlot drinks and does. Love our neighbor, we will probably be saved. Practice hatred, then we are already dead. It is THAT simple. No murderous goon is “going to heaven”, belief in that lie was needed to propel the murderous acts, whether Muslim of Christian religion, because that is no faith, I can assure you. Of course Western atrocities is what breeds the brutal blowback of “The Muslim” “reaction”—but it is as stereotyped and orchestrated as “The Christian Crusader” character is it not? So, it is also vice versa, they have played off each other like that “blood follows blood” formula since they have ever co-existed. Look at the 911 event and its “Muslim” target fall guy, it motivated much “Christian hate”, and vice versa. But in reality, it all serves the same global dominating goals of the NWO.

The simplest rule, is the hardest for us to obey: Love God, by loving our neighbor. And I do not care what religion one may be lost in, we ALL know what that means, it is basic, it is the truth. This is no longer the most innocent and ignorant epoch in human development, far from it, lets not kid ourselves. The world’s eyes are now open. Technology aided that process, from printing press, to Internet, eyes open.

So I am NOT of the “Christian” “religion”. I am of the FAITH in God, period. And in more specific, I believe Jesus Christ is God’s Son, and appointed King to come as Immortal Global Sovereign. BUT “religious Jesus” is not the real Christ. Likewise, religious God is not the real God, it was all Satan’s GMO Christ and GMO God, for the masses, for the play, for the parts, for the reaction, for the dust. Religions are here to defame, abuse and slander God, to produce more divisions, to aid the NWO and Satan’s final “divide and conquer”—to take their people only so far, and that is all: dead end.

Of course religions are not going to take a bite out of their own harlot paycheck, and tell you their true destiny, role, and character. God is coming to save PEOPLE, and LIFE, not dead “corporate” “religions”. God will give them to the NWO, to free up what He will, for SALVATION. Downing religion, ironically will free many people come that time.

In the meantime, “religion” is DOOMED, the “harlot” just needs to sell her last trick: World War-to-World Government.

I am NOT attacking individuals. I am just stating what the NWO themselves have said concerning their religious escort system: its days are numbered, and it WILL tow the party line, and it will help divide for conquest, before it goes its infamous route to Global deposition as outlawed by World Government, and it will end up a “hated bird” entity of all cheering mankind when it is dusted, under world government, before their very eyes, by Global Governing Enforcement of a total weapons and energy weapons technology system monopoly of the NWO. IT WILL BECOME GLOBAL LAW!

GET THIS!:

The GLOBAL removal of ALL war-fomenting religion (as most know it), is a great “harbinger” of the believability of “World Peace Everyone!”. Removing global religion, by force and legal writ, is as good as “world peace” to many people; the world peace effect is what is left in religion’s vacuum.

And her “after effect”, even after destruction, is going to be as EVER-PERSISTENT, as was the leprosy and dope of religion as it existed enslaving men:

Even in the religion complex demise and aftermath, her ghost will promote world government! What an effective harlot eh? Even by her death, even dead, she still blows world government accolades, by virtue, of here very absence!

Now why would the NWO, pass up the number one function of religion in such a global climax, also foretold square in prophecy?

Now THAT is no accident is it? In the meantime ALL of her premature prophecies will fail, and as they fail by contrived simpleton error and  premature use and application, to cloak, instead, the World Government “Kingdom of God” and “Zion” “on earth”, many people will flee globally discredited religion (Rev16:12), for God will assure it is discredited to aid the Global Exodus to SALVATION. The prophecy is real, that is not what I am saying, but the religious versions are fake and to aid the “doomsday” hoax and the Fake Armageddon, hype, which aids the Obligatory NWO Pivot into, instead, great global recovery and “real” global “hope”, unfortunately then cloaking the NWO Decoy.

The purpose of religion, is to fail and damage control re-spin, all the way to World Government, to Cloak the Decoy, as the Decoy MUST “arrive” first. Put THAT in your memory banks, because within 19 years all that, you will, God willing, see unfold just that simple”: claim, fail, claim, fail, respin, apply it to World Government to save face. THAT SIMPLE. Fool the die hards over and over, lead them to 666 World Government the whole time, while discrediting the whole Christian prophecy complex, at the very same time, for its various bi-polar, “inside” and “outside” global audience. (With variations in Islam, Judaism, Star Warsism, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, all leading to 666 World Government first, with Satan cloaked every which way to Sunday, for every possible global audience, he will be confronting, in person, with an array of super-demons at his side. (Eze38:7) Think religion is going to help you at that time? NO, ONLY GOD is going to help, PERIOD. THAT is how bad this is going to become, the NWO cannot be stopped, that only TRIPLE in power, seven times over, when Satan enters their nucleus and is Kinged on The Global Throne. It is that simple.

When Satan, the NWO, the old nation-state and God all want you gone, like religion, you can bet the Harlot will be a full goner!

There is no more doomed entity on Earth at that time! And the reasons are real, the big corporate religions promote war, hatred, and greed and everyone knows it, they are the propellant justifiers of the whole thing. And that is why its removal is such a Super Global Boost for “World Peace” believability, and the complimentary Global Smooch Fest planned for World Government, a la religion’s final “side effect”, as they inject a couple to 500 trillion in hard assets, into the nation-state revivification process. (Isa41:1; Rev13:3) ALL in one fell swoop.

Then God can arrive to depose the NWO, and save many slated by them, for destruction. Many savable people will be wandering the streets and forests and wilderness with no religion, LOOKING FOR SOMETHING, and God Himself will come instead, he understands how horrid that Harlot Slave Mistress has been, and many of them will be saved. Once again, God cannot just be kowtowed to “react” as Satan would hope he would, and wipe them all out. No can do, God aint Satan’s bitch, like religion, is he? No he isn’t, and that is why many people will have every possible “worse case scenario” bent by God, for their “best case scenario”: salvation.

Ever wonder why all those “sheep” ask those questions at Matthew 25:31-40, as if they have never even read a Bible in their entire life? BECAUSE MANY OF THEM HAVEN’T, that is why, and they are saved, and they wonder what the heck is going on. Why? When did we see YOU naked and hungry???? HOW IN HADES, did we get in the 20 Billion Angel Guarded Camp of the Saved? Questions, questions, questions, answers, answers, answers, from then, to all eternity, because man knows NOTHING, and the training begins on THAT day!

Wanna love your neighbor? BELIEVE and PRAY for THEIR SALVATION, AND OURS! WE are our own “neighbor” too, that guy in the mirror is YOUR neighbor! Because your “neighbors” salvation is YOUR SALVATION! Get it? THINK BIG, BIG MERCY, BIG HELP, BIG LOVE, BIG SALVATION, BIG GOD ALMIGHTY, BIG, BIG, BIG.

Do not let a religion squash your mind into a little 1″ pigeon hole of DOOM, and poison your heart as they do. FIGHT BACK, by OBEYING GOD ALONE. And have FAITH in Him, and believe it, He can fight the war on the NWO, when it is time to unleash 100 Billion Holy Angels of God on the rival ruler—ONLY when they ready, warned, and completed. Because that is HUGE in global impact, He must warn first, and prepare people FOR SALVATION—first. THINK BIG, THINK SALVATION! HELP PEOPLE, HELP ALL LIFE ON EARTH! and beyond, because THEY ARE COMING in this cycle’s end climax of the climax of the NWO global life domination attempt.

Because they loved their neighbor, and were not predatory jerks, that is why them “sheep-to-be”, that didn’t even know they are “sheep”, will be saved. They aint even read Matthew 25 for God’s sake! SO WHAT, God is judge, not us. He will save all recoverable, and not too hateful to be adjusted later. ATTITUDE is EVERYTHING!

In the NWO desire to destroy all life for Satan (Matt24:21-22), before he is booted to abyss, God by default will do the OPPOSITE for those who can be recovered, regardless of nation, religion, creed, age, gender or class. Graveyards will be emptied eventually, and not just of the human dead. THINK BIG LIFE! (Eze47:9)

But you are correct, at one time many religions did have good intent, they did promote their holy books and basic morals. But when tested, the entity that is “religion” harlotized, as they ALL do, so their is no judgment here, they are all the same thing, in generic reality of the use of faith in their own entity, to survive, and that in as much luxury as they can conjure from Satan and his NWO Super “Rainmaker” Pimp, the true owner of all global “mainstream” religion.

I thank “religion” for but one thing, the Bible I finally read. It helped know who they really are. I thank God for producing it, as delivered by the holy angels to his prophets. I thank Jesus Christ for never selling out to religious desires, because religion and state in unison, is who railroaded and murdered him, as happens to many who try to follow the Law of God. I thank God for having to assess all people, for salvation, first, every last one of us, REGARDLESS of “religion”, for it is useless in the end. Religion is to be given to the NWO.

Let us put our faith, in GOD.

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[quote=’Lisa’ pid=’39662′ dateline=’1450236560′]I was wondering-where in your scenario does Israel rebuild their temple and start sacrifices to God again?[/quote]

Hi Lisa.

Glad you asked about that character in this play. It is a reality, like the others, but it is CARICATURED for the Final World Government Presentation global-play. Like a “wave” we see coming, crashing in energy release into the shore, as the climax PORTION of a CYCLE, it then dissipates and retracts in a sub climatic manner. All ENERGY, ALL LIFE , EVERYTHING is “wave-like” cycle based. But this World-War-to-World-Government CYCLE uses the “wave crash” “crisis/problem”, to amplify the “solution” climax, it does not dissipate, it does a Grand Finale, more like a Tsunami, and the “old world order”, and EVERYTHING that defines that “order” is what this next “Global Wave” will inundate to completion.

VC is showing one aspect of this secretive, but very real, inundation, is it not? EVERYTHING is being orchestrated like a Global Symphony, including the physical Israel sector, to manifest with this wave, to aid its Global Inertia. The momentum, though unnoticed to billions of people, is ALREADY at Global Setup Proportions! It is ALL ready to go. VC is just helping people see the wave bump on that horizon, and they are not doing all this in the NWO preparation, to reverse the wave; but to bring it IN.

I want to do that short article soon (on the Israel character portion of the global play, for it does relate to the Islam character, of course), because the “Israel” PROP, all Rothschild Directed and Produced Global Play CHARACTERS, in synergy with the Islam Bad Guy CHARACTER, WILL be used in the Grand Finale—we NOW have the REAL PROGRAM, the “Director’s Cut”, to know what is REALLY going on “behind the scenes”, “backstage” and up on the Overstage NWO Puppet Master Catwalk. And thanks to the library and its east-to-access web version, to verify such claims, since the Balfour Declaration tied it in with the first most notable League of Nations step (of four), to World Government. The League-UN, is the Nucleus of the World Government Designate. It uses four cycles, three have passd, WW1, WW2, Cold WW3, and ALL of them cap off, with?

The Obligatory UN Global Presentation. This fourth and final cycle, is the one to present UN Centric World Government, and its whole “kit and caboodle”, because the UN is just its nucleus, everything else falls into place by corporate control of the whole nation-state system.

All we are doing is taking the pieces, like the VC piece, and connecting the dots, into the “big picture”, because it is global, it is complex, it ALL relates, but as with VC, its PRINCIPLES are SIMPLE, all pervasive, ever present, expanding, and with ONE PURPOSE: World Government Planetary Control. 

EVERY PART is being re-defined, and re-aligned to CLOAK that World Government, AS IF, every grandiose claim that can be applied to that DECOY, and that first, because they arrive before God and Christ.

Thus I am not saying anything is an absolute lie, I am saying it is ALL hi-jacked TRUTH for an alternative NWO aiding “reality”, to USE TRUTHS, to CLOAK DECOYS, by using the truth, applied TOO SOON. Very, very, very simple principle. “Truth” is the Trojan Horse of the BIG LIE. TRUTH MUST BE MIXED IN, WITH THE LIE CYANIDE. REAL TRUTH and REAL HOPE, MUST be HI-JACKED, to SUGAR AND SELL, THE LIE: WORLD GOVERNMENT. (Ps2)

The NWO LIARS just claim to be the “Champions” of  that “Truth”, and the “Ones to Bring” that “Global Hope”. It is called A CON GAME. Same old story really, but this one GOES GLOBAL, it is already gone global, it just needs to run the final cycle to completion.

There is a real Israel, invisible, God is who tracks that. BUT, there is also an NWO prop, that ALL CAN SEE, and all expect to see something, it is all a play, all scripted, all a big lie, a formula, to run with the final cycle. There are real (God’s) “MY PEOPLE” in all humanity, that God sees, that He is coming to save, that they divide up, and confuse, label, mentally molest and and bag, so as not to see all people are God’s CHILDREN, even the human people. We are a Global FAMILY, In reality, under ATTACK. THAT Family, is what the NWO must continue to bust up into divided conquerables, GLOBALLY.

And Christian prophecy, is the same thing, it has a reality, BUT the NWO HIJACK the reality, and apply it to their DECOY of “Zion” and “God’s Kingdom” to FOOL the world.

And thus, THE ONLY TRICK THEY CAN USE, is to apply it TOO SOON. THAT IS ALL THEY CAN DO. (2Thess2:1-2)

They cannot wait until the real Kingdom of God arrives, then it is TOO LATE. Nope, they MUST apply it all, and orchestrate the whole play, for their own “Star of the Show” DECOY, FIRST, they must make their own “Arrival”, FIRST. And they must cloak themselves with every media expectation, religious, political, and entertainment, history and philosophy, ALL OF IT, even “Star Wars” and the “Super Heroes”, ALL OF IT funnels the mind to World Government—just specialized for it diverse global dysfunctional family, and all their various illusions they are trapped in.

And this is because Satan MUST appeal to a wide variety, present in all human diversity, nations, religions, sub-cultures, etc. He knows know language barrier, he knows no physical barrier like nations and race, HE IS UNIFIED with his genius-demon cohorts—THEY WROTE THE GLOBAL SCRIPT WE ARE NOW IN! Genius in comparison to guessing mankind. just a burnt out cigarette in comparison to God, just a bent penny, to REALITY: NOTHING TO GOD. And it is the NWO who wants to “Kill Bill”, depose billions of humans, GOD must, by default, be coming to save. GOD IS THE FRIEND, the REAL SAVIOR. Nothing is “too good to be true” in regard to true divine purpose. NOTHING.

GOD IS SATAN’S EXACT ANTITHESIS DIAMETRIC OPPOSITE IN ALL WILL, PURPOSE AND EVER IMPORTANT REALITY, AND THEN SOME.

In the meantime, as the “NWO Wave” must run its CYCLIC required completion course, GLOBALLY, and they MUST present themselves as “Global Savior” PREDICTABLY now, and every human social mass “ball”, golf “ball” here, basketball there, soccer “ball” there, they ALL are programmed for the same GOAL: Accept the NWO as the Global Savior of Mankind.

IT IS ALL, ORCHESTRATED TO GET YOU! TO GET ME, TO GET THEM, EVERYONE! BREAK FREE!

You can take the “Israel Formula”, aided by the Christendom sector that co-wrote the script of that part of the play, to KNOW they want to use their decoy, to present an easy to see, 1-2-3, trajectory to support the “It Is Really Zion on Earth Everyone” CLOAK. The NWO has enough gold, to gold plate Vermont sized Israel in 7 layers, they could “restore Israel” any day of the week since 1919, even before. But no, they must first build up the “Israel” CHARACTER plot, and AMP UP STRUGGLE DRAMA, in ENGINEERED INSTABILITY AND CONTROVERSY, first. They MUST amplify the anxiety, build up the “Islam versus Israel” sub-plot, drag in everyone into that PLAY, and then conclude it with the pre-engineered expectation:

Israel is restored, rules victorious, is the Crown Jewel of the UN World Government Crown.

The NWO world government planners, actually pulling all the “Israel” prop strings, are then the ones behind the “God” curtain. The globalist are the “God” behind that FAKE mask, to highlight themselves as if “God”. The Rothschilds (and others, of course) are who “set up” Israel for “restoration”. The Anglo Master System Tool, is who validates it, sanctions it in unison of will, and decrees it as part of a related World Government Charter supporting “Treaty”, God MUST be doing this! America joined in later, with the UN, they did not ratify or join the League or its Paris Peace Treaty, on the first WW coercion cycle, it took WW2 to drag the US nation-state in fully.

Well I got news, Rothschild is the “God” behind the scenes, that has orchestrated this entire “Israel” FAKE Play. And the Global Psychology of it, is to then accept World Government as “God”. They will cloak every prophet of God, and EVERY CHRISTENDOM HARLOTED PROPHECY, to mask their Decoy, and they will use Israel like a Golden Carrot, as but one more decoy en route to the big Decoy of World Government of men and demons.

Then Satan will “arrive” and play the “God” role, and “all of God’s angels” will be played by the demons. And the afterimage of that expectation “possibility” of God’s arrival, with a boatload of glorious angels, extends well beyond just the “religious mind”. When the REAL THING, the BIG DECOY arrives, it WILL “look” like the real thing to all the world. This grand finale is going to BE HUGE! OFF THE CHARTS!! DON’T GET CAUGHT OFF GUARD!!!

Every drama, en route, is to amplify a manifestation, that in itself will become globally mind blowing, for it is truly Satan’s last hurrah before abyss, and God allows him, REQUIRES him (Eze38:7), to take full control of the World Government situation, as its “God” and “King”, all fake, all illegal, all a decoy, ALL CLOAKED in every human engineered expectation, from religions to Star Wars to the “arrival of the Aliens”.

But if you think that is going to be globally astounding, at for the first time ever, all global seeing at one time, total global manifestation, just wait until the REAL “STAR of the Show” arrives, AFTER that FAKE, with ALL of his true glorious HOLY angels, WITH GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF! Satan and his manifestation will look like a sputtering porch light and its moths at high noon in Arizona in the July in comparison to that:

(Zechariah 14:6-7) “And it must occur in that day [that] there will prove to be no precious light—things will be congealed. 7 And it must become one day that is known as belonging to GOD ALMIGHTY. It will not be day, neither will it be night; and it must occur [that] at evening time it will become light.

WHO NEEDS a FAKE Jerusalem “wall” of Roman erected theme park dirt and rock, when we are going to SEE this:

(Zechariah 2:2) …measure Jerusalem…

(Zechariah 2:5) And I myself shall become to her,” is the utterance of GOD ALMIGHTY, “a wall of fire all around, and a glory is what I shall become in the midst of her.”’”

THAT will occur AFTER they complete World Government and try to seat themselves as “King of Global Jerusalem”, with their Satan FAKE GOD help. If you think they know how to build up the final act and epilogue of a global play, GOD will take their grand finale, and show everyone what the REAL GOD and his REAL “host” of 100 BILLION ANGELS looks like when they turn planet Earth UPSIDE DOWN, and save many many people FIRST! Even at the time of Satan’s arrival, with his “host”, you will have, even at that time, seen NOTHING yet!

(Isaiah 13:6-8) “Howl, you people, for the day of GOD ALMIGHTY is near! As a despoiling from the Almighty it will come. 7 That is why all hands themselves will drop down, and the whole heart itself of mortal man will melt. 8 And people have become disturbed. Convulsions and birth pains themselves grab hold; like a woman that is giving birth they have labor pains. They look at each other in amazement. Their faces are inflamed faces.

BUT, YOU need not fear a single thing.

WE make the first PEACE with God, who ALREADY made peace with man, before we were even born. IT is US who DOUBT that REALITY, we can choose ANY TIME WE WANT. And, God knows some people are quite stubborn, so some people will make the choice at the most astounding epic period EVER! And we can offer FULL OPEN SALVATION as God’s GUARANTEED GOAL AND PURPOSE, we need not follow some religious Play Program, all NWO scripted for FEAR, DOUBT and DIVISION, to CONTROL PEOPLE!

THAT is why God has allowed deception, as ironic as it sounds, to save some people. He must make a GENERIC FINAL CALL, on all humans, regardless of their ignorance and enslavement that led up to that grand finale. All we have to do, is have the right attitude of the same kind of love and mercy. God aint coming to kill billions, he is coming to “Save Bill”, to save billions, the NWO is who PLANS to KILL BILLIONS, and try they will.

BELIEVE IN GOD, and HE IS LOVE. PERIOD. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. If you believe Jesus Christ is God’s chosen Immortal King, more power to you. But no reason to let such a grand TRUTH, try to limit our appeal TO ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS WHAT PART OF THE ILLUSION THEY MAY BE STUCK IN AT THIS TIME! When GOD comes, even Satan will vanish, the ILLUSION WILL BE CEASED, for REALITY.

THEY WANT US TO BE DIVIDED AND ALL JUDGING EACH OTHER. Tell them to take a flying>>> …

And from that day forward, man will be TAUGHT HANDS-ON truth, Like a Divine Boot-camp and Gymnasium of SUPER-UNIVERSAL Paradise BECOMING REALITY, SEAMLESS WITH HEAVEN. God’s SON, did not BECOME A MAN, for no good reason! HANDS ON is how it goes down in the 1000 year reign. TONS of people, tens of billions DEAD, aint ever heard of ANY of this!!!! Well, not for long.

New World Order? WHAT A JOKE!

God is doing a “NEW UNIVERSAL ORDER”! THINK BIG RIGHT!!! N.U.O. BABY!

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But now in my speculative assessment, you can see how the “Islam Character” must be brought on global stage, be “bad guy” built up like a movie, then “Lord, its a miracle!” transformed to conquered, meet the “Israel” Victory expectation. I truly pray for all my brothers and sisters, I could give a fly you know what if they are “from another country” or religion, THEY are VICTIMS being used by the NWO, just like everyone else. But their part in this play, imo, is horrific in defeat. And the NWO already ha the 21st Century warfare reality at their finger tips. This Russia thing is ALL AN ACT, ALL PART OF THE GRANDER PLAY, they ALL come into for World Government, because the NWO has every demon, Satan, and every conceivable anti-matter and space weapon AT THEIR FINGER TIPS, or in a decade off completion certainty. THAT is why they are so ballsy, in kicking Russia and China in the BALLS, the Russian and Chinese demon-elite all know the script. WW, 4th Cycle, is ALL AN ACT.

It is all a tool for the main play theme. But as hinted at, they have other versions of the plot and climax storyline, to focus on Satan’s “arrival” first. But, World Government is not a speculation. You WILL see it rise from the “old world order” parts and re-aligned ashes, the US/EU may take a few nukes as well, BUT it climaxes into the PLOT OF THE NWO PLAY, so they can cloak their LIE and DECOY, in the final act grand finale REACTION. Islam’s UTTER MIRACULOUS defeat is of course the amplification of the Israel prop for final use. (Islam is just the first NWO “religion department” slated for the Global Axe, that is all. Place NO FAITH in ANY religion, pout your FAITH in GOD. If you have faith also in God’s Christ, more power to you.)

Just know, when they complete that NWO World Government JALOPY of a P.O.S., they WILL trigger GOD HIMSELF, but you can be saved, and you probably already know that, but you can also inform others, and stay to the agreement of God and HIS TRUTHFULLY LOVING Eternal PURPOSE. He CANNOT be stopped, He IS REALITY’S MAKER. The NWO and Satan, are just leaves in the river, to be washed away, dissolved, and disappeared, FOREVER. Powerless to God, zip, nothing.

THAT IS GOD’S REALITY. ON THE WAY, ETERNALLY EMBEDDED IN TIME’S VERY FUNCTION AND REALITY OF ITS BECOMING. BY DYNAMIC GROWABLE FAITH, WE CAN SEE IT NOW!

LOVE GOD, LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR, LOVE AND RESPECT ALL LIFE OF EARTH. REJECT SATAN AND THE NWO DECOY FAKES, AND ALL THEIR LAME TRICKS.

Even some from those ranks, can surrender in time. THAT is how BIG God’s MERCY AND LOVE are! Not all will, be SOME will. But the offer is to ALL HUMAN BEINGS! So, GROW FAITH HOURLY, and let them know. DO NOT GIVE IN TO THE HATE. THINK BIG, THINK ETERNAL!

He is on the way, they just need to complete their well known “World Government” JALOPY FAKE FIRST!

As it comes, it will get clearer and clearer, that this is all true, every milestone step of the way. But overall, it is predictable now by sheer common sense: 1. WW1=League, 2. WW2=UN, 3. Cold-WW3=UN-NWO Mode, 4. Future/Final Cycle=World Government, UN1-2-3-4.

Of course knowing this EVER SO SIMPLE LOGIC AND TRUTH, that COMPLETE World Government TRIGGERS GOD’S ARRIVAL, is very handy to KNOW NOW! SIMPLE, now you don’t have to rely on religion, or get fooled by the NWO Global Play’s smoke and mirrors and fake CHARACTERS, they are just that: FAKES, FRAUDS, the UNREAL THING!

As the cycle unwinds, it will get more obvious, so help others too see it too, it is SIMPLE!

God’s SALVATION is BIG, and has to assess every human being, and since it is not a transition to more demon rule, such as with Noah’s transition, many can be saved, because the REALITY THING is what is coming: FOREVER. Many can be transitioned into the new High Command and its Super-Universal Kingdom of GOD ALMIGHTY.

I mean how much more positive can a truthful message be right? NOTHING! Is “too good” to be true!!! Especially this epic arrival! Enjoy the adventure!

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Let’s see, hmmm…

They can’t even take care of a Bethell dishwasher, but they want JWs to place their own life and families in their hands? They cannot even take care OF THEIR OWN!!!

That is THE RECIPE for: COLLASSAL [sic] TRAGEDY.

It is what it is.

All that remains is for the globalists to create the global context of Bethel’s own “self fulfilling prophecy”. And Bethel bumping heads with Caesar, as shown in that previous RC Response article on that subject, has actually set up part of this now all JW expected “attack”.

Bethell is setting up their own INVASION for rampant lawlessness, and stubborn denial! (1Pet4:15-17) In fact, the very thing Peter warned of by God, is now present AT [criminal] BETHELL:

(1 Peter 4:15-17) . . .However, let none of YOU suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer [or a pedophile], or as a [GB] busybody in other people’s matters. 16 But if [he suffers] as a Christian, let him not feel shame, but let him keep on glorifying God in this name. 17 [BECAUSE] it is the APPOINTED TIME for the judgment to START with the house of God. . . .

It is ALL an orchestration, to crash the JW-org, sack the corporations and send JWs helter skelter OBEYING SOLD OUT Pied Pipers in the GB.

Yes, FLEE the doomed apostate JW Organization (Matt24:15), NOW, the GB Caesar aiding “disgusting thing” is “standing in a holy place”, complete with their UN NGO Ensigns.

It is time for a final Temple Judgment cycle, not “the end”, but of the compromised GB led Bethel apostate farce.

 

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Rutherford did a very good job of taking care of bethel at that time and Jehovah made sure of it.[/QUOTE]

Yes, they all malign Rutherford, because he wasn’t running a DAISY FARM, was he? Nope, he was busting loose on pre-GB RATS AND SNAKES in the “board of directors” of the WTBTS and their 1917 takeover [attempt] that FAILED.

So now they say, oh the Judge as too tough, a power seeker. Well, Good for him, had he not been a David Like Arse Kicker when needed, the “GB Goonsquad” would have RUINED the ministry way back in 1917!

Then they wouldn’t need to toss the good guys in prison in 1918 as Plan B, because Plan A failed would they have?

Nope, then the “first witness” (of “TWO witnesses”, second for the future because of this apostasy*) of 1914-1918,1919 NEVER would have come forth would it?

Nope, and then the League of Nations never would be connected to World Government Wildbeast prophecy would it? Nope

And then the WW1-to-League 1919 to WW2-to-UN 1945 SECOND KNOCK OUT PUNCH of exposure wouldn’t have been carried over by the Judge, as God helped him hand the UN exposing torch to Knorr and Franz, for that 1945 FOLLOW THROUGH, would it have? Nope.

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But Come 1990, at that post Cold War THIRD UN prophecy and event, Bethel went MUM didn’t they? Yep

And they became a UN “Non-Kingdom Organization” UN-NGO didn’t they? Yep

And they still drop the UN1-2 to UN1-2-3 EXPOSING BALL didn’t they? YEP

And who did that?

The 1944-1976 Rats and Snakes in the WTBTS “Board” assuming the GB cloak and lie for the 1976 TYRANNY! (2Thess2:11-12)

THAT is what the Judge AVOIDED, as God MADE SURE them first two UN presentations got exposed as needed. Mission accomplished.

And what does it REALLY MEAN? UN1-2-3-4.

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Four 8th King UN Cycles to World Government – 1919-Future

UN 1. 1919 – Rev13:11-15 (Dan12:11 first fulfillment) as League of Nations after WW1;

A. International Bible Students Association (IBSA) explained as prophecy;

UN 2. 1945 – Rev17:8-11 as United Nations after WW2;

A. Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW) explained as prophecy;

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Unknown and unstated by UN NGO allied Bethel and Jehovah’s witnesses:
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UN 3. 1990 – Daniel 11:31b as United Nations “New World Order” Initiative after WW3 (Cold War) (Dan11:29);

A. Covered up by Bethel as UN NGO, not explained as prophecy by any religious group;

[We are Here…]

UN 4. Future – Daniel 11:45; Daniel 8:25; (Daniel 12:11 last fulfillment) as United Nations and World Government after 4th world tribulation/war cycle to come.

A. Not currently explained by Bethel in lieu of a premature “end of the world” deception. (2Thess2:1-2)

B. To be explained after the JW temple judgment desolation, purification and removal of lawless Bethel engineered subversion (2Thess2:1-4; Dan11:30-31; Dan8:11-13);
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Bethel is a “Board” (GB) driven apostasy and subversion, concealing prophetic reality from JWs, and everyone else too boot.

THAT is what JFR held at bay as long as he was able.

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Outline – UN has Four Cycles in World History and Bible Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/outline-un-has-four-cycles-in-world-history-and-bible-prophecy/

Four Time World War to World Government Formula
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/four-time-world-war-to-world-government-formula/

All Four United Nations Presentations are Foretold in Bible Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/all-four-united-nations-presentations-are-foretold-in-bible-prophecy/

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Why TWO Witnesses?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/why-two-witnesses

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Thanks for posting this.
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You’re Welcome.

The Ghost Dance actually has valid descriptions of when God will carpet the land with the Buffalo again on the ashes of their enemies, and no one can turn Him back, nor can the nations avoid their own judgment day when all the bull will be exposed for what it really is.

So the whole prophecy has realities that Christ will express on his enemies, because he KNOWS what it is like to be slandered, wrongly accused, and railroaded by harlot religions in collusion with their state pimps, as they team up for their own power and gain now, but the prophecy is about the justice that no nations or person can avoid, when the trampling of the nations has reached its timed limit, and God brings in the new Leader of the Land, and he will not mess around with Liars any more, but he will TRAMPLE them.

The warning is valid.

(Psalm 2:7-8) Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: “You are my son; I, today, I have become your father.  8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance And the ends of the earth as your own possession.

(Psalm 2:9) You will break them with an iron scepter, As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.”

Because Christ’s knows the misery greedy men cause for all creation:

(Romans 8:18-22) Consequently I reckon that the sufferings of the present season do not amount to anything in comparison with the glory that is going to be revealed in us. 19 For the eager expectation of the creation is waiting for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will but through him that subjected it, on the basis of hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now.

Now doomed Bethell likes to apply only humans to that “the creation”, but the fact is ALL CREATION will benefit from Christ immortal life power being plugged into, when Satan’s dead spirit is disconnected, soon, and then eternally destroyed with all his liar cohorts, which Bethel is a marked one.

(John 6:39) This is the will of him that sent me, that I should lose nothing out of all that he has given me but that I should resurrect IT at the last day.

(Ezekiel 47:9) And it must occur that every living soul that swarms, in every place to which the double-size torrent comes, will get life…and everything will be alive where the torrent comes.

EVERYTHING

It is another day closer…

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I think we can say, we have not heard from Jehovah in a while.

That is to say heaven has been silent for a while.

[b](Revelation 8:1-2) And when he opened the seventh seal, [i]a silence occurred in heaven[/i] for about a half hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels that stand before God, and seven trumpets were given them.[/b]

So when we do hear from heaven, soon, it is going to be the Temple judgment trumpet blasts, that are really the description of the events that are in Revelation 8:3-5:

[b](Revelation 8:3-6) And another angel arrived and stood at the altar, having a golden incense vessel; and a large quantity of incense was given him to offer it with the prayers of all the holy ones upon the golden altar that was before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense ascended from the hand of the angel with the prayers of the holy ones before God. 5 But right away the angel took the incense vessel, and he filled it with some of the [i]fire of the altar[/i] and hurled it to the earth. And thunders occurred and voices and lightnings and an earthquake. 6 And the seven angels with the seven trumpets prepared to blow them.[/b]

As we notice after those Revelation 8:3-5 events which are the temple judgment parallel (Dan8:13-14), the first four trumpets of the seven trumpets will explain the judgment. So the judgment itself occurs first, and its events will be the parallel of the “cry arose in the middle of the night” that wakes up all “ten virgins”, but not all will be able elucidate the situation will they?

The “fire of the altar” is the purification symbol, same as the symbol used to purify God’s prophet BEFORE he could accept the mission:

[b](Isaiah 6:5-9) And I proceeded to say: “Woe to me! For I am as good as brought to silence, because a man unclean in lips I am, and in among a people unclean in lips I am dwelling; for my eyes have seen the King, Jehovah of armies, himself!” 6 At that, one of the seraphs flew to me, and in his hand there was a glowing coal that he had taken with tongs [i]off the altar[/i]. 7 And he proceeded to touch my mouth and to say: “Look! This has touched your lips, and [i]your error has departed and your sin itself is atoned for[/i].” 8 And I began to hear the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I proceeded to say: “Here I am! Send me.” 9 And he went on to say: “Go, and you must say to this people, ‘Hear again and again. . .(two witnessings)[/b]

And as we see it is[b][color=#0000BF] again[/color][/b], and…

[b](Revelation 10:11) . . .And they say to me: “You must prophesy [color=#0000BF]AGAIN[/color] with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”
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…that the witness must be given after John also received the “open” “little scroll” commission to be deployed in the future as the “second witnessing” of the “TWO witnesses”, which requires temple judgment purification FIRST, and that takes the Daniel 8:13-14 time. And if you doubt now, just know that Daniel 8:13-14 events of Revelation 8:3-5 parallels of temple “trampling” desolations, will prove itself in the phasing (Dan8:26), and the timing of Daniel 8:14, and it reaches the “right condition” in that timing:

[b](Daniel 8:13-14) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on?” 14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.”[/b]

And that is the purification, by judgment events of the temple, that is the Revelation 8:3-5 fire purification:

[b](Zechariah 3:2-5) Then [the angel of] Jehovah said to Satan: “Jehovah rebuke you, O Satan, yes, Jehovah rebuke you, he who is choosing Jerusalem! Is this one not a log snatched out of [i]the fire[/i]?” 3 Now as for Joshua, he happened to be clothed in befouled garments and standing before the angel. 4 Then he answered and said to those standing before him: “[u]Remove the befouled garments[/u] from upon him.” And he went on to say to him: “See, [u]I have caused your error to pass away from upon you[/u], and there is a clothing of you with robes of state.” 5 At that I said: “Let them put a clean turban upon his head.” And they proceeded to put the clean turban upon his head and to clothe him with garments; and the angel of Jehovah was standing by.[/b]

Obviously the minstry has devolved into that “befouled” condition, and this is why we shall soon hear from God, and heaven will break the silence in the temple judgment—soon.

But you are correct John, the completion directive of Revelation 6:9-11, which is the “[i]killed[/i] number”, that must be completed that God knows, is related to the completion directives of Revelation 7:1-8’s completion number, as is the Revelation 7:9-17 “great crowd”completion number, also a required completion set. And it is time to start to position for those completions.

And we are now heading to the period that completes it all, as require by God’s command and promise, to complete all those implied or explicit quantities, as the “sacred secret” of the “good news” also completes:

[b](Revelation 10:5-7) . . .And the angel that I saw standing on the sea and on the earth raised his right hand to heaven, 6 and by the One who lives forever and ever, who created the heaven and the things in it and the earth and the things in it and the sea and the things in it, he swore: “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, [u]the sacred secret[/u] of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets [u]is indeed brought to a finish[/u].”[/b]

And in that completion of the understanding of the whole good news “sacred secret”, the whole completion news will come forth to aid all those completions, and we are entering the completion cycle of it all. But, first thing first: The temple judgment; The apostasy is complete.

Thus, in spite of heaven’s silence during the apostasy (2Thess2:11-12), we are at the final global cycle, none the less. And it will be an epic period that will lead to everything Jehovah’s witnesses have warmed us all up on. [i]And that is why[/i] the resister (Zech3:1) has now entered the minsitry FROM WITHIN (Dan11:32a), and is derailing JWs, and is leading that ministry into apostasy.

But know that is is ALL in prophecy, and it sets up the final temple judgment, and this time of Jehovah’s witnesses, which is really a preparatory judgment of ALL ANOINTED CHRISTIANS, and it WILL BE OF “PROPHETIC PROPORTIONS” when we hear from God and Christ in this process, because this apostasy is why the “right condition” must be brought about by God, from the WRONG CONDITION JWs and the whole anointed Christian house is now in. (1Pet4:17)

The “seven trumpets” are the gauging of milestone events that lead to world government (Rev11:7; Rev17:8-13) and thus the Christ arrival (Rev11:11-12), but it starts with the Revelation 8 Temple Judgment, first (1Pet4:17), and the recovery for purification to final commission and final witnessing period 1260 day deployment. But the seven trumpets gauge it ALL for the temple significance, with the seven plagues as the global parallel context. THAT is why they are there as a complete seven. (Rev1:1)

Soon, the events themselves, will speak for themselves, but now we have something we can consider as Daniel 8:13-14 starts Revelation 8:3-5.

Get ready to hear from heaven. Get ready to hear from God and Christ on this matter of modern apostasy.

 

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[QUOTE who=”Subliminals”]Agree completely.. Only Jehovah could bring about such a powerhouse as Russell such an unpopular message yet so many have heard the truth based on Jehovah using Russell. The ‘illuminati’ system is still trying to unravel his work today.. Having a tough time though. Having some success yes. But in the end will not succeed. All Bethels imposters will be exposed actually by their own doing. One thing about good men they get enraged by imposters Jehovah will rise and use such to expose the fraudsters. The ‘art’, the unusual messaging in literature etc.. Looking at the new headquarters entrance ‘tower’ actually looks like a prison tower. Have a look then check out prison tower pic on google.. Some nefarious work going on. A watchtowers purpose is to project at observing the outside, a prison tower looks and guards inward.. Subtle nefarious dual messaging.
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Yes, those kinds of anomalies, when you lay them all out like a detective would do, and actually start to examine them, and document them to see the “bigger picture”, then it cannot simply be a Rolex just coincidentally appearing in the “junk drawer”, as you assemble a few parts.

Those kind of people who can have a hundred pieces of the puzzle completed for them, and still say it is nothing, “you’re crazy”, are the simple minded drones these guys are RELYING on to carry out the rest of their work.

THAT is how they can fool most people, and most JWs, because most people are just that. But God is still purposing to get through to such people, it has been like this since Eden.

So it is true, the more these impostors do, the more they have to self reveal:

(John 12:3-6) . . .The house became filled with the scent of the perfumed oil. 4 But Judas Is‧car′i‧ot, one of his disciples, who was about to betray him, said: 5 “Why was it this perfumed oil was not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor people?” 6 He said this, though, not because he was concerned about the poor, but because he was a thief and had the money box and used to carry off the monies put in it.

Now all it took Judas, was catching a whiff of money in the air, to deride an act of kindness shown to Christ, which was could have been more loot for him to skim from.

And the same with Bethel, they are greedy control freaks, it always equates to the diametric reality to what is the main blah-blah-blah veneer of claims. Want to know what the GB REALLY IS, it is THE OPPOSITE OF >ALL< their claims.

“explain nothing, deny everything, claim everything” SOP for CIA and other intel.

And that is EXACTLY what the GB does.

So once we see the reality, it is a GENERIC condition plaguing the WHOLE “old world order” system. And the “corporation” is the main tool. And like a tool, a hammer can be used to build a house, or to crack a skull. These things are not in themselves evil, they get into the hands of evil. And the Bethel tool, is the same thing.

Now in the corporatization of EVERYTHING, the structure of its hierarchy is the steering wheel. At times the corporation has a controlling president, but like with a successful software company, like Microsoft or Autodesk, in time the corporation gets so big, it has to pass to lawyers and accountants and their “boards”. And THAT is how the corporation is then taken over, later, by things that hide in the “board” container.

The network of corporate “boards” has now evolved into know “interlocked directorates”, because the takeover is of many corporations, to align their functions and wealth for another, but common, use, at international scale. The “interlocking” “boards” are required in the whole thing. Just research “interlocked directorates” and “bipartite graphs”, and you will see as in the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich “Super Corporation” graph:

revealed-the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354-500-revealed-the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world/

That there are many documented examples of corporate matrices, which are complex. And we see the amount of digital information in the banking and investment sector, is used by them, to know the magnitude of the consolidation of all corporations into their “pyramid”. So we have a scientifically and informationally provable consolidation, at global scale, in progress. And it is a network, based on digital networks, because those biggest financial corporations are all wired into the global stock market network, and it has all gone into a single hub, based on big computers and data-centers. The physical trading at “Wall Street” is now just an anachronism, Global Quants and High Frequency Trading high speed networks, is run by the core corporate matrix. (So it is theoretically subject to total control.)

Now this brings us to the Bethel “corporate” complex, and its “board of directors”, which is now in the “Governing Body” just a front group, as in 2001 they admitted the WTBTS matrix has many other “boards” actually running the corporation. So, in time, the WTBTS also lost presidential guidance, as impostors slipped in with apostasy, to aid it, and they slipped under a corporate device that is not bad in itself, the “board”. But in time the ASSUMED A VENEER OF DIVINITY, or the “Governing Body”. Because it was not until 1944 that they even peeped the term “governing body” in the JW ministry.

The Governing Body Experiment—1944 to Present
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/the-governing-body-experiment-1944-to-present/

1944 Governing Body Birthday—1914-1976 WTBTS Board of Directors Coup Finally Realized
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/1944-governing-body-birthday-19144-1976-wtbts-board-of-directors-coup-finally-realized/

So, they were in the board (with external help) from way back, trying to figure out how to evolve that board, into a total control device that JWs would accept. (2Thess2:11-12) And so the MYTH of the “first century governing body”, ALREADY  being well used by Christendom… (the MYTH is defined by Christendom itself!)… was then slipped into JWs (“gradually give over” as per Dan8:12), with no mention THAT ALL OF CHRISTENDOM EMPLOYS ITS OWN “GOVERNING BODIES”! THAT is how the Christendom apostasy itself was founded! Mundane corporatized “boards” posing as divine!

So, that is also how Christendom was taken over, the rogue anointed Christians going globally known from the 1870s, was the ONLY “loose cannon” “pea” requiring to be rolled back into the already controlled mother-apostasy “pod”. And it used the same technique all of Christendom used, the same technique used in corporations and government!

And it was what the Pharisees and their legal system “Sanhedrin” were too.

And it goes back further, to the “mystery religions”, as BOTH the “corporation” concept, and its “governing body” core device concept (and application of the whole), all came with those corporeal “body” defined “mystery religions” SINCE BABEL! Nimrod was the first CEO! The Romans are the basis of Western law, they just perfected the Babel root system, it is all the same thing, the Papacy is the main example, and the GB and Bethel cleric network CONTROLLED by that same device is the >very same thing<, with but with a new name, and THE SAME MYTH for cover. SAME OLD STORY! It is ALL “Apostasy Street”, with many “religious” houses, crossroads with “Control Street” with many corporate houses.

So, in effect, JWs have been focused on the “Christendom apostasy” and their “clergy”, without being told that apostate-network, and its “clergy” is all, also, “governing body”, “synod”, “board”, “council”, controlled! So JWs are told “we have really removed all vestiges of Babel! hurrah!!”, when in reality the core “governing body” is the core Babel borne, controlling unit itself! STILL inside JWs, and only since budding in 1944. The same thing. The “board” has always been there, but not with dictatorial power, or the “Governing Body” veneer, “gradually given over” (Dan8:12a) since 1944! And what do they do:

Dan8:12b: “throw truth to the earth”!!!!

It claims to be “apostles” based DIVINE “governing body of Jerusalem” FROM GOD…

“”The channel he used for spiritual feeding was clearly recognizable. After all, the apostles—the original members of the governing body—could provide visible proof of heavenly backing.””

(Feeding Many Through the Hands of a Few Watchtower 2013 7/15 p. 18, par. 12

…but it is a Babel device now fully run by Satan, the diametric opposite, of its grandiose claims!

The Other Deception for JWs: “Theocracy” Development

Now to cap off the blasphemy, might as well claim that those GB Rat Demons, is actually “God’s rule”; why stop! Right?

And so the “Theocratic Organization” is actually man ruled, demon ruled, King North ruled, total facade veneered farce now. It is all just a facade of myths, and the Devil is who is under that veneer now, and at the top of Bethell. And that is why they developed that “theocracy” idea among JWs, from way back, while on the other hand developing the “governing body” idea, at the same time, but not strongly connected for JWs to fully understand, ALL IN 1944!

1944: The Governing Body, UN Allied Apostate Leaders of the Implied “Wrong Condition” of Daniel 8:14
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/how-daniel-812-14-unright-condition-has-been-developed-by-the-profane-governing-body-since-1944/

And I do not blame everyone, the ideas could be presumed with good intent, but once the slip in, they are hi-jacked later. It is how “the error” of 2Thess2:11-12 then becomes “the lie”. It starts as a simple mistake and bad decision in hindsight, but in time Satan capitalizes on that error, based in falsehood from the start, and it morphs into a “lie”, because when it can be addressed and removed, it is too late, the core rot will not depose themselves, they extend the error into a defended lie, they do not repent, they keep going from bad to worse.

(2 Timothy 3:13) But wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled.

There are many PRINCIPLES at work, now terminal, in the JW ministry. But the principles are basic, there is a lot of details, but they all boil down to simple principles, demonstrable, with evidence, now full blown, in the JW “downward spiral” of the Bethell “plane flown by committee”, to use Jerk Jackson’s own quote from the RC testimony.

So what we have, is the “governing body” budded in 1944. BUT, they also have developed another 1944 supporting myth and blasphemy, the “Theocratic” “right condition”.

In 1999, they also applied the “theocratic organization” evolution, to prophecy, as if, having met the “right condition” of Daniel 8:14, also in 1944, in that update of 1999 in “Pay [no] Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy” book “cherry on top” updated snowjob plastering of this now lie. If you notice, they talk about Daniel 8:13-14 very very rarely among JWs. Because they do NOT want JWs, to understand, SINCE 1944, THE OPPOSITE—THE “WRONG CONDITION”—IS THE “PROJECT” THE “HOLY GOVERNING BODY” “CORPORATE PROJECT MANAGERS”, have been “governing” since 1944!

It is SURREAL, it is actually so blatant!

So it is a MAJOR TOTAL BLASPHEMY, based on the FUTURE temple judgment  of the holy Daniel 8:13-14 COMING MEGA-PROPHECY! TIMED, PHASED, CHOCK FULL OF BETHELL TRAMPLING, TO PROVE ITSELF, WHEN IT ROLLS ON BETHEL’S DEAD “WRONG CONDITION”, TO ACHIEVE THE REAL “RIGHT CONDITION!—IN THE FUTURE, FUTURE FUTURE!

Which ENORMOUS “OF PROPHETIC PROPORTIONS” DEVELOPMENT ON THE APOSTASY OF OUR TIMES, now has to be used by God, to bring in the “right condition”—for now obvious reasons, for those who can see the REALITY.

The OPPOSITE reality, than what Bethel claims, is now present in the entire GB run supposed “theocracy”. From 1944, as documented as well as I could in that last link, from 1944, the GB  is who has brought the entire organization under THEIR, not God’s, CONTROL, systematically. It is actually a Babel GBeocracy! DONE!

Thus the very thing they CLAIM brought about the “right condition” from 1936-1944, is the very development that has now brought the whole JW ministry into the “WRONG CONDITION”, since that very 1944 date they just love so much! No wonder they also budded the “governign body” cancer cell veneer, in that 1944 as well! It is the real Masonic Birthday in JWs! (JWorg? 33org, J10+W23=33dotOrg, a Freemason run organization, in other words) JW this, JW that, JW flags, JW tramp stamps, JW lighters, cups, ties and bras—JW JW JW! Now we know why!

33rd Degree Controlled!

They did that in 1999’s “Daniel 8:14” fictions, as they shifted it up to meet the WW2 context, to make it look more real (from Fred Franz previous dating). Yet as a JW one would know it is a very very rarely spoken about, or referenced “interpretation”—Because it HAS MAJOR PROBLEMS, IT HAS NOT FULFILLED YET! Even the shift, from Fred Franz dating, what I feel was a premature honest attempt, hi-jacked later, PROVES the prophecy has problems, BECAUSE it is YET TO FULFILL! And there could be no WORSE CONDITION, than today’s GB ruled, GB worshiped, GB polluted mess the JW apostasy is now in, as even a UN NGO. Preposterous! WHAT MESSIANIC KINGDOM AMBASSADOR, tasked with the “good news” of CHRIST’S FULL KINGSHIP to come in THAT also necessary “Kingdom” joins the UN System, as if nothing? A TRUE APOSTATE, that’s who.

And when it does come, that being the “Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, it will be enormous, and when it runs its “evening” first phase course (Dan8:14,26), the GB will be terminated by God himself. (Isa66:6; Dan11:41) And their exposure will form a portion of the final warning, same old story as in 1914-1919 and after, but now it is NOT just Christendom apostasy, it is Bethel’s MODERN APOSTASY, as developed by the same techniques, that MUST BE “REVEALED” well before the true end.

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3) However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. 3 Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed

And as we see EVERY CLAIM THEY MAKE, EVERY LAST ONE, is actually the opposite of the JW reality of today!

And so, that “to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here” TOO SOON, is the staple DELUSION for today’s JW. It is the MAIN SMOKESCREEN, to “quickly shake JWs from reasoning” in overanxious hyped OVER “excitation” that helps blind, deceive, and lead JWs to instead the temple judgment conflagrations on the TEMPLE, to think THAT is “the end of the world brothers! LOOK NO FURTHER! WE ARE YOUR GB GOD!

What do you think God is going to do to that lying idol? Just wait and see! And time Daniel 8:13-14 when it BEGINS, it is no overnight affair, but the GB is not going to survive, I can tell you that much, they are God’s BullsEye, along with the JW org, so we have a visible epicenter, so as to connect it later, to Daniel 11:41 as Daniel 8:13-14.

And what will they tell JWs it is? What they are ALREADY telling JWs to expect next: Daniel 11:44. BUT it will be the invasion of the “holy place” of Daniel 11:41, and that Daniel 8:13 “trampling”, Bethel will sell to JWs as if, Daniel 11:44 has activated en route to “the end”, way way TOO SOON!

It is ALL a deception smokescreen, to crash the org, while JWs think in error, “it must be the end of it all brothers and sisters!” An exit strategy so perfect, as to be designed by Satan himself (Zech3:1, 2Thess2:9), for his “man of lawlessness” GB operation of error, and TOTAL COMPREHENSIVE LIE AND BLASPHEMY now the core of the modern JW ministry, to fully COMPLETE in the context of such an enormous coming event on Global JW-Ville!

Timed Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses – Daniel 8:13-14
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/timed-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

Daniel 8:13-14 Details the Coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/daniel-813-14-details-the-coming-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

Temple Judgment to World Government to Christ Arrival
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/temple-judgment-to-world-government-to-christ-arrival-revelation-11-and-daniel-12/

But, God will have to intervene, midway in Daniel 8:14 phasing, as Hosea 1:4-7 (Zech3:4-5; Mal3:1-5; Rev9 “Destroyer” drops in covert), so that instead, the “second witness” final warning be prepared, by aid of these HUGE EVENTS and the prophecy they mark, coming.

Daniel 8:13-14, is also Revelation 8:3-5, just beginning the final seven trumpets, to the final warning 1260 days, some years after the start of the Bethel downfall. There must be TWO witnessings, 1914-1918, and THE FUTURE. And that is why the applicable portions of Revelation REPEAT TOO! 2.0!

8th King/King North World Government as Simple as Possible
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/8th-kingking-north-world-government-as-simple-as-possible/

Repeating Cycles: The Whole Prophecy Repeats Starting With The Temple Judgment Portion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/what-we-know-now-the-whole-prophecy-repeats-starting-with-the-temple-judgment/

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[QUOTE who=”Subliminals”]Agree completely.. Only Jehovah could bring about such a powerhouse as Russell such an unpopular message yet so many have heard the truth based on Jehovah using Russell. The ‘illuminati’ system is still trying to unravel his work today.. Having a tough time though. Having some success yes. But in the end will not succeed. All Bethels imposters will be exposed actually by their own doing. One thing about good men they get enraged by imposters Jehovah will rise and use such to expose the fraudsters. The ‘art’, the unusual messaging in literature etc.. Looking at the new headquarters entrance ‘tower’ actually looks like a prison tower. Have a look then check out prison tower pic on google.. Some nefarious work going on. A watchtowers purpose is to project at observing the outside, a prison tower looks and guards inward.. Subtle nefarious dual messaging.
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This is about the last update of the total “seven times” harmonization along with its global sovereign convergence, as it all merges to world government, and hence the logical Christ arrival:

Seven Times Update
http://christian.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=625#p7695

It keeps the 607 BCE and 537 BCE validity, it just shifts to Babylon date, and keeps Medo-Persia.

But it pretty much “equates” it all, to what it is all leading to, and it is all the same story, so it is actually just plain logical too boot.

And that is why they needed to get in their to conceal the obvious from JWs, that is how simple this really has become.

But that one ties it all together as far as the whole “seven times” total main, offset, and extended and Revelation 11 applications. Along with the “GENTILE times” is has been mapping the whole time, and their main Daniel 2,7,8,11-12, Revelation 13 and 17 symbolic “maps to Armageddon”.

(But now some of the anomalies are getting revealed to, like the Ray Franz development, and others, but that’s another story, but it is ALL related to attaining, and maintaining control and cover up)

But this last pass, is simple, it is defensible, because it is what it is, and of course God’s SIMPLE PROPHECY is who nails them, lays it all out, and laser dots their 8th King skull, even before they pop up their pathetic total head in world government, for war with God and Christ.

Them poor poor losers, let them go count all their money and gold, it aint their’s anyways:

(Haggai 2:7-9) . . .“‘And I will rock all the nations, and the desirable things of all the nations must come in; and I will fill this house with glory,’ Jehovah of armies has said. 8 “‘The silver is mine, and the gold is mine,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies. 9 “‘Greater will the glory of this later house become than [that of] the former,’ Jehovah of armies has said.. . .

Well at least the “great crowd” will have some nice digs to call home until the reality comes in, when they get the physical spoils of the Armageddon War. I mean those 8th King boys have collected up some nice stuff! Thanks!

Thank you, globalists, thanks in advance.

(Micah 4:13) . . .“Get up and thresh, O daughter of Zion; for your horn I shall change into iron, and your hoofs I shall change into copper, and you will certainly pulverize many peoples; and by a ban you will actually devote to Jehovah their unjust profit, and their resources to the [true] Lord of the whole earth.”
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That is because Christ will be fighting a united enemy. That makes complete sense.
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That is what is nice about the basic logic of it all, that God has to make so simple, a seven year old can figure it out. You do not go bowling, and toss your bowling ball down the aisle, until AFTER the machine has set the pins properly! A little itty bitty child can understand that concept by one visit to the bowling alley.

But the other nice thing, is as this comes into the world, that being world government, it itself is not juts going to pop up out of the blue tomorrow. It is going to take some time, and bringing it in will be turbulent, then they take credit for calming the storm. They MUST use that ruse.

BUT the storm, wakes up certain people, and they can then understand it was the previous “strike”, and what is then being “set”, is this final “rack” of “pins”, and the rack is world government, the “gathered pins” are the nations (Rev16:13-16).

And of course, Christ is the “stone” (Dan2:31-45) bowling BALL of all time! LOL

Very simple!

And very earthshaking, because the current “rack” is just the nation-state “spare” beign finished off in this next “global crisis”. So it is NOT the end of the game, it takes some years, and in those years the story unfolding means the “story” starts to explain itself, it must become more and more obvious, as this final two frames wrap up, sequentially.

There is no way to crash the 7th King, who must go down, THAT is why he is 7. Then comes 8, even a kindergartener who can only count 8 so far, can get the meaning in 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8, sequence.

So God will make sure that 7th King, “King South” synonym fall (Dan11:42-43), will be of great global notability, it will become undeniable.

And if then we are at 99.9 % prophecy all truned history, stands to reason that last 8th King portion, is also going to unfold into the NO BRAINER of “World Government Everyone!. Big surprise! When in reality it is logical AND now predictable, even “Alex Jones” just tells people what the plain intent that the UN themselves say is the goal!

But what those forecasters are doing is also hoping in vain, that they will reverse the NWO Tsunami. But they will not. So they are permitted, because they have a “pie in the sky” as the dot they lead to at this time.

The TRUTH is, God, setting up anointed CHRIST, is who is legally tasked, has the power, and the super-universal desire, to exterminate the NWO, like so many bowling pins confronting a bowling ball the size of the Sun.

They ALONE, God and Christ, have the power, and God gave Christ “all authority”, to depose what is for now just a lame tool they use for their purpose, when God decrees, to His exact timing.

So God will unfold this, to get through to even seven year olds, are any child, who can count to 8, because that is how SIMPLE God is making this. Thus taking the time to unfold it slowly, but surely, and yet not that long, HELPS save people with simple truth.

But for the sake of Himself, Christ and all the prophets, and even King North’s own curiosity, God will also summarize the entire “sacred secret of the good news” “indeed brought to a finish”, because those prophets did NOT waste their time, writing this all by inspiration, to just fizzle in a Bethel HALF-VAST fade out. NO WAY!

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Plus, King North boys, know more prophecy right now, than JWs! They are in there, and they want to know, so they can know how to control it, by hi-jacking truth. Wrong place, right time.

So God will give them the GOOD NEWS. That 1914-1918 “first witness” wall of water? Well it has a “second witness” wall of water too, that is why there are TWO “witnesses”. And they are Pharoah, out in the middle of the Red Sea, looking at only half the story, but they are exactly where God wants them to be, for that second wall of water.

All they need to do is turn around, and look the other way.

Because God will offer some in their camp, the way out to, this is a little different this time around.

(Isaiah 42:9) . . .“The first things—here they have come, but new things I am telling out. Before they begin to spring up, I cause you people to hear [them].”

(Isaiah 43:18-19) 18 “Do not remember the first things (1914-1919), and to the former things do not turn your consideration. 19 Look! I am doing something new. Now it will spring up. you people will know it, will you not?

(Isaiah 48:6-7) You have heard. Behold it all. As for you people, will you not tell [it]? I have made you hear new things from the present time, even things kept in reserve, that you have not known. 7 At the present time they must be created, and not from that time, even things that before today you have not heard, that you may not say, ‘Look! I have already known them.’

God’s “Jaws” also come into 2 halves.
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EVERYTHING right now plaguing the TRUTHS in the historic and prophetic basis of the JEHOVAH’S witnesses ministry is based on DIVERSION to “answers” and the cloaked frauds, AWAY from the true simple answers.

EVERY “PROBLEM” in JWs is equating to the “simple SOLUTION” that it is all invalid.

But in reality, the true solution is STARING US IN THE FACE, at the same time the DIVERSION has us looking in the wrong place, or listening to the DECOY APOSTLES!

EVERYTHING! And that is no random “accident”.

And THAT is why the FIRST COMMENDATION OF CHRIST IS THIS:

(Revelation 2:2-3) . . .‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars. 3 You are also showing endurance, and you have borne up for my name’s sake and have not grown weary.

And their effect is the same:

(Revelation 2:4) . . .Nevertheless, I hold [this] against you, that you have left the love you had at first.

BUT, EVERYTHING they lie about now, is EVERYTHING that needs to be summarized, all arranged by them. By pulling the curtains on ALL of their diversions, including themselves, the TRUTH emerges in a grander manner than it even first manifested in the first place.

It just takes the second cycle, also a second witnessing, of the “TWO witnesses”:

Why TWO Witnesses?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/why-two-witnesses
https://jwupdate.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/why_two_witnesses_revelation11.pdf

And the SALVATION MUST BROADEN in this process:

Positive Global Message—Open Global Salvation Opportunity
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/positive-global-message-open-global-salvation-opportunity/

Global Open Salvation—How Christ Completes His Own Ministry
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/global-open-salvation-how-christ-completes-his-own-ministry/

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The JW have, at most, 5 years to produce Armageddon. If not then another prediction is refuted.
2034 is not only wrong, it won’t help the cult at all.
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I do not know the day, I just know they will complete world government before 2034, imo.

It is a decade plus away. World Government is not the “Messianic Kingdom”, it is its well known final rival.

Even you oughta be able to comprehend the logic of it all.

JWs go down first (Dan8:13-14), that is how you will know this is no joke.

The US fall, will wake you up, and from there you will be checking this forecast of the whole prophecy, until he arrives, and you might just make the final cut.

http://christian.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=625#p7695

But neither the convoluted clap-trap you “promote”, nor the half-vast fizzle of modern JWs, is will succeed. They fail. (in their own time). First JWs, then your baloney.

The “Armageddon” JWs will produce, is just the events that lead to the final world war, it is a FAKE ARMAGEDDON. But it will be enough to soil your shorts, I can tell you that much.

And that is when you too, will be woken up to the vortex of the reality you are in. You guys need to be tossed into the frigid waters, before you can break coma. You and JWs will both be paddling the same storm, but God will sens you a life preserver, it is up to you to put it on, rather than the anchor you now tote around, worse off than the worst off JW on earth.

But, in time, you’ll start to catch on, I think.

And this is the last post on this thread, I just talked to the Head Honcho of Topix, just letting you know.

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[QUOTE who=”pcloadletter”]<quoted text>
Is this http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf just the other end of a Hegelian dialectical spectrum, invented to make everyone think climate change is man-made, one way or the other? And you are saying it’s not ?
I thought it was another case of “unless those days were cut short, no flesh had been saved”, And it’s supposed to be “the great tribulation”, which is not necessarily war as we know it, I think ?
And that reminds me of something else: http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/index.shtml
– something else- like the first link- I’ve seen the title to many times, but never actually looked at before today. I think the WT has said announcement of “Peace and Security” possibly will only discerned in retrospect, and may even have already happened. I, personally, have thought “I will rock the nations, and the desirable things will come in.” could refer to winnowing grain on a windy threshing floor, and the chaff flying away, and that that is what is meant by “tribulation”. Could already be happening? I admit I’m a little confused , but probably short attn span is the explanation.
At least you can see I’m ‘seeing and hearing things, but not unduly concerned’, just like the scriptures advise, right?
And if those links turn out to be only about the US government, and people, it’s not because that’s who I blame for everything. Not by a LONG SHOT!
PS Years and years ago, I asked some know-it-all pinheads of my acquaintance ,why temperatures were rising on other planets too, if it was man made carbon emissions causing that on earth, and they were interested to hear about that. So if that was wrong, at least you’ll know I was paying attn, (and that everything we both know is wrong.?)[/QUOTE]

Lets look at a full house of PRINCIPLES that work like a charm. As in the PRINCIPLE of an “internal combustion engine” being the simple concept of a gas weed eater and a Formula One car engine, the principle is simple, the details are where the Devil hides in the details.

Manipulating the down and up of the human psychology is a cycle based formula, like the “make up, break up, make up” hormone cycle, whether selling “gun control” or “world government:

PRINCIPLE:

(Revelation 13:3) And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.

It is NOT really “slaughtered to death”, it is AS THOUGH “slaughtered to death”, the downer, and the upper?

“and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.”

PRINCIPLE:

(Revelation 17:8) The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world.

UN goes down, by design, and pops back up! For? “those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly”

SAME EFFECT, in the same cycle. World war makes the UN look like it fails, while the nation-state goes “AS THOUGH” slaughtered dead, but lo and behold, the upper is great global hope and admiration of the wildbeast recovery!

Now we have everyone and his mother like Alex Jones and David Icke, telling us how they use that “crisis” “reaction” “solution” formula over and over; because it WORKS WELL!

And thus “peace and security”, the real thing, is for the upswing effect. It is the main claim. And the principle is, if they engineer world war like clockwork since 1914, they can also engineer world peace, in the same engine, for their big hoopla “solution” time! recovery in world government, all to sell world government so everyone accepts it as part of the global-psychological formula. Doom, then Hope, “end if the world”, then Utopia, crash, then healing, etc, etc.

Not to offer a “spoiler” to the movie, but “peace” claims is what comes with a major UN presentation, like the ones in 1919 WW1 finale, 1945 WW2 finale, and 1990 Cold WW3 finale. By no its is predictable. So the big “grand finale” is under UN presentation 4, as World Government, after the next world war, how ever it may unfold. And THAT UN1-2-3 simplicity of predictability, with or without prophecy, is why they slipped in, and conceal that UN 1990 as Daniel 11:30-31, and Daniel 8:23, so JWs do not SEE the UN1-2-3, must by now be, UN 1-2-3-4. 1,2,3,4, that easy, all prophecy, and all propped up AFTER a world war, or even a “WW3 atomic holocaust” scare. Which psychology will come in very handy for the 4th of July of WW4. BUT it will recover, by design, it IS what they do, to sell their LIES, by use of manipulating human psychology, with scare, then hope, then they attach it to their Big Solution: World Government.

Why would God “sneak in” now, and have to even wipe out UN toting JWs? Why not let the whole horrific scare cycle run, to the obvious World Government Christ trigger, to give plenty of scary warning, THEN pop in fully forewarned, to SAVE people from planned NWO annihilation to come under full world government! The NWO, not Jehovah, is who plans to wipe out billions, “during a freedom from care”, the last one, before Christ arrival in Daniel 8:25.

So ANY “peace and security” before then, will be to aid the “it must be the end of the world next” IMPRESSION that they want to promote, like Bethel is doing right now. (2Thess2:1-2)

The principle is, to use another scare and huge global crisis, so the UN can arise a final time, from an implied failure abyss plunge, to “calm the storm” and play the Global Hero, to sell their World Government Jalopy, POS Car.

Now we have enough researchers out there to know, dead serious economic troubles are coming for the US and EU, 100 times worse than what burped in 2008. 2008 was just a test, and it took what was left of the “shock absorber” as they ripped off 20 trillion, in post 1990 real-estate valuation, then they got the government to “bail out” the bill, to boot, to the tune of another 13 trillion in bail outs and “stimulus”, Quantitative easing to the bottom of the barrel.

Paul Craig Roberts: “The USA will become a 3rd World Country”

So for Bethel to say NOTHING, as Awake! magazine is just a Distraction Sleeping Pill! magazine, is because they are concealing that the US falls first, then comes world government. The principle is, the whole world is fooled, and Bethel is just a sleeping pill, in that world, for the JW Prescription OD.

But with that “bail out” and QE, THAT MEANS they just puffed in another entire debt load, AS BIG AS, IF NOT BIGGER, THAN THE WHOLE USE GDP, in just 7 years! In fact it is bigger than the whole US debt volume history since the founding of the USA, if we go back to 2001 and tack its debt load on!!! It is BIGGER than the whole NYSE! And people think, “no big deal”. The US debt and unfunded liabilities are bigger that Global World Product! THAT is called, D-O-N-E! Just a matter of a little more time, for the US Titanic to sink, it hit the full Iceberg in 2008***.

Well it will be a big deal in time, that all happened mostly, after 2001. It is a buy out, of the nation, with its own money:
Catherine Austin Fitts at the Secret Space Program—Parallel Global Finance System
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bolDChliALg

Catherine Austin Fitts: The Private Hostile Takeover Of The World Economy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwLPExx2JZg

Now the principle is, the banking sector, is the core of the actual functional engine, of world government:

***When Central Banks Rule the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn2eBcpdsDo

So just like a homeowner in a 3 million dollar house mortgage, with a 30,000 dollar a year job, they will be out in time, same debt trap pricniple, but now applied to the whole US “White House” Government.

THAT principle is at Daniel 11:42-43. And like Daniel 11:42-43 it leads to global wealth and gold ownership for King North, FIRST. Then after that all the nations are checkmate. And that is Daniel 11:44-45, and Revelation 17:11-18, principles: global sovereign consolidation, follows the wealth core consolidation.

So with the climate, I can only guess. But the climate is EVERYWHERE, and that is why they want to use the climate issue, to extend more grassroots and corporate control power, as inundating as is the air. It matters not if it is warming or cooling or staying the same, they will use it anyways, as the “we have such great intentions for all mankind” to keep the suckers, all for it. But those suckers, are the eventual final target too, as is everyone and everything.

GOOD INTENTIONS, the most grandiose loving and peaceful claims, is how Satan slips in. He KNOWS how to ear tickle, to get the stranglehold. ALL NATIONS have used that principle, as do all con men. It is a no brainer, they are not going to tell people; “we want to get 100% control, of a totally 100% global weapons and precision energy array, to apply 100% in a systematic final sweep of all planet Earth, to get rid of you all”, that will solve many of Earth’s ills. (Then, it would all be truthful)

What if they did that? What do you think people would do? LOL

But no, they must use “great intentions of Utopia pace and love” to sell their death trap.

But now everything is bent for their goal, including Bethel. As mentioned earlier, big trouble is on the way for the whole nation-state “old world order”, massive in economic impact. But Bethel is hard at work:

1. Covering up ALL world government progress since after 1990.

2. Telling JWs to expect the end next.

So, they want to present that 7th King downfall phase, AS IF “the end”.

Bethel has to be terminated, before JWs get the real news. (Dan8:13-14; Rev8:3-5; Zech3:1-5)

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Thanks for those pdfs.

Now the final principle is that of the “Atom Bomb”. When it was developed, even many scientists had no idea of its “big stick” break through nature. We today take for granted, how BIG “The Bomb” really was in its time.

In the same principle, precision energy, wave based energy application, and anti-matter weapons, are also a “big stick” even science of the old world, has little comprehension of. And if Satan has far more power, than has been manifested, and is just saving it for the Ezekiel 38:7 allowance, then we are entering an age, with the same impact, “The Bomb” had on 1945 and after.

And I think t is all there, twenty years ahead of even the best guessers on the Web are saying. I think Russia knows, China knows, all the elite tier knows, and they are just doing the “world war” for effect, because they too, need to get rid of tons of people, quickly, and they also plan to use the weapons array, to thin their own herds, once it si all 100% under world government control, fully. And “The Bomb”, the nukes, will be as insignificant as if just a Dated Urban Infrastructure Bulldozer. The weapons system, and Satan on it too, IN IT, will be from space, and its base “technology” will be wave energy, and precision anti-matter applications, and it will be automated, and selective to the very race, species, and type of biology it is neutralizing, at the push of a button, from remote, even AI non human, “locations”.

And that is why the elites are so confident in kicking Russia and China in the balls, they have nano drones, and “God Rods”, just fifty miles over Moscow and Beijing, or capable of being there in literally minutes, by aid of other transport technologies they have, or are close to applying. They are YEARS ahead, of what they even allow to be “leaked” on the Web, demons are their ultimate weapon, they are just waiting, and have been waiting, for the right time to manifest. And once you consider their full functionality and power, then the human imaigination cannot cover 1/1000th of their capabilities.

And THAT is why Christ arrives at that time period, or else:

(Matthew 24:22) In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.

So the hints are all there, but people have to make the time to research it. And there is only so much time, so they distract, in the hopes, people do not catch on in time. And that is why JWs are about the most behind people on earth at this time, they are mentally, in 1976, because that “it can end tomorrow” delusion, has QUICKLY SHAKEN and neutralized the JW reasoning ability, by over excitation, primed by Bethel endless HYPE:

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-2) However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.

THAT above “to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here”, WAY WAY TOO SOON!, THE MAIN DELUSION, is Bethel’s Main Job, for the NWO.

Look at Bethel, the racket. They can’t get a single HOUR to meditate, they need to hide in closets, and escape to fire exits, TO JUST TRY TO THINK! Bethel is NO BIBLE STUDY, because people are mixed like ants, hyped up with busy work every waking moment, so they DO NOT THINK ABOUT PROPHECY, >>>AND<<< Modern global news and globalization maturing developments!

BETHEL IS A JOKE! They grab the most driven, zealous witnesses, to cordon them off to a slave racket Olympics, TOTALLY distracting them every day, every MINUTE of their lives, EVERY SECOND, while they are there, and they are there, sometimes, THEIR WHOLE LIFE in an asylum, of non-meditative, non-Bible study, busy busy busy busy body, over stimulated MAD HOUSE of TOO MUCH ORDER.

By the time they leave Bethel, from there first year there in fact, they are LOBOTOMIZED into mindless, pliable, PUPPET DRONES. As are JWs of today: NWO DRONES.

But, Jehovah has quite the wake up call coming, doesn’t he? Just you wait and see.

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Just as “political correctness” has driven whole college campuses into factions of nutzoid over-sensitized Student and Faculty ZOMBIES, watching everyone’s words, and their own, ready to react at the drop of a hat, distracted to meaningless minutia, day in, day out, to MINIMIZE CRITICISM of the government and the system, so the the JW “pure language” does the SAME THING.

JWs also “watch how we talk”, they police every peep, of everybody, for “theocratic speech” violations, they are over focused on themselves and others, day in, day out, as they sleep, as they wake, they hunt gnats, the jump hoops, they can’t get a second to THINK, busy busy busy, busy busy busy, watch every eggshell you may tip toe upon, and ABOVE ALL, CRITICIZE NOT OUR GB HOLY-OVERLORDS OF THE EMPIRE!

ALL HAIL THE GB LORDS OF OUR PARA DICE!

The whole purpose of the JW “vocabulary”, “Bethel Correctness”, and the “purdy purdy little snapshot” “perfect little JW picture” of our “spiritual paradise” SHITUATION COMEDY, Play Set Circus of TOTAL COMMERCIAL PROPS (and total distraction sideshows), even a GB TV Show now!, is ALL to blind, mesmerize, control, dupe, mislead, con, stall, enslave, and shut JW mouths, to minimize all criticism, to distract to “gnat minutia”, and to lobotomize the JW-Cows BEFORE they head to FEMA Rancho McDonald’s, so that they all go as smooth as possible in the JW Round Up, courtesy the NWO, “Your Deliverance is Indeed Getting NEAR”. You bet they got a deliverance planned for JWs. (hence Matt24:15, to get out NOW)

JWs – FLEE The JW Org!! – Matthew24:15
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/jws-flee-the-jw-org-matthew2415/

The “Event” JW Bethel is Planning For
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/the-event-jw-bethel-is-planning-for/

How to Set-Up JWs Like 8th King Sitting Ducks
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/how-to-set-up-jws-like-8th-king-sitting-ducks/

Because when they do it, it will be in a “total emergency” context, and they will want YOU to obey them, and they will send many JWs, to capture. WHAT do you think these guys are doing INSIDE of JWs? (Dan11:32a)

THESE GUYS WANT TO WIPE JWS OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH, and THAT FIRST! And they want JWs to help, because it is the same goal they have for the world, later, and they don’t want no darn JW, recovering, and sounding the REAL WARNING! It is all the same overall deception.

THAT WILL ALL COME TRUE, NOW YOU KNOW, and now you got your work cut out for you, to keep JWs OUT of the Slaughterhouse, as this REALLY UNFOLDS, “soon, very soon”. (Matt24:15)

It is a “self fulfilling prophecy” up at Bethel, and they are taunting the first salvo from “Rome”, even now, it is all a SET UP:

Bethel’s RC Response = War on Caesar
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T2I65JGQI34O0GP2J
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/bethel-versus-rc-caesar-wonder-who-will-win/

 

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On December 19, 15, pcloadletter wrote:
> I can definitely see what you’re saying about this largely unknown weapon
> superiority, and “no flesh had been saved unless” God intervenes.
> This will sound arrogant maybe, but sometimes I hear myself saying something
> that I really have no normal means of knowing and it will turn out to be true.
>
> Of course , I can’t remember a single specific instance of this.
> But one time I was getting d. license renewed and the driving part guy, I
> could tell, thought I was some kind of political conservative- maybe ‘modest
> dress’ or even A dress, eg, and my husband being a marine (the only rabid
> liberal democratic one ever, maybe) . And he was kind of taking me to task
> like I’d be some naive, sheltered, time-warp dweller . I had some fun
> disabusing him of a few assumptions, like that I would for instance ever listen
> to Rush Limbaugh, and that I didn’t see that the U.S. was hated all over the
> world, etc. I could tell he was kind of surprised and impressed -(wrongly, of
> course) – I must have talked a good game- been on top of my ‘game’ that day.
> Said ‘Game’
> being, the ‘don’t look like an idiot’ game..
> But anyway ,he said something about “U.S. on its last legs”, and I said that
> ‘we’ had such massive, unsuspected weapon superiority, that things were much
> more strategic, and much less ‘dire’ than most people knew. I had heard or
> read it somewhere , but stored it away without processing, and completely
> forgot about, until I heard myself telling wide-eyed, surprised him, at same
> time feeling a sense of deja vu that this was ‘one of those times’ where,
> because I said it, it would probably turn out to be true. Of course, we have
> yet to see if that’s the case or not, but I’m sure you’re impressed at how many
> words, and how much effort I’ve expended telling you this -basically-
> non-story!
> The rest, -I know I sound like a broken record-, but have to try to understand
> better and think over. I may be missing something obvious, and you may have
> just said why, but why do we have to have “4 cycles”? And I’m wondering if
> the post cold war UN was admired as wonderingly or marvelled at for having any
> connection to that, though I do see you’re right that the cold war ended around
> the time of your “placement’. I also don’t know why we have to have a third
> world war, except I know Albert Pike said so. I may indeed be the JW -clueless
> , the worst one ever- you talk about. For one thing , when you put scriptures
> , I don’t know what they say, unless I look them up, and I usually don’t,
> because too tired. I only look at/post scriptures when I can extract from
> clipboard on cd rom or if clickable marginal notes etc.on jw.org. So you can
> see I abundantly deserve whatever happens to me and don’t deserve you taking
> me very seriously. love, anyway-

In 2010 I finally lost my house. I ended up at a brothers house, in a back room, with no job. But I got a full two years there of full time Bible study (I mean 12 hours a day MINIMUM), as Topix preaching ended up turning into Bible study continuation where I left off. I had to start to document the GB scandals, I only found out about the UN NGO in this time period. (The GB “forensics” leads to everything else)

As I started to WRITE IT DOWN, because I had to, one thing leading to another and in time I said “wait a second, there is too much stuff here, I keep forgetting about last week’s finds”. And when I did, ten anomalies turned into 100. And it is now well above that. And that just had to do with the Bethel post 1990 timeline. (Those little “anomalies” all, ALL OF THEM, tie in to concealing a target truth, getting JWs in transgression, and distracting to non-issues provided by some of the bad policies, in certain LAWLESS policies.)

Now as an example of a couple of older oddities:

If we go back to Rutherford’s GUARD, and his 1917 success in quelling the SECOND board takeover attempt, the first in 1897, which Russell put down, MORE, the first, anomalies surface.

1917, is why they tossed them in prison in 1918. Get it?

IF that board revolt had been successful as Plan A, they would not have needed Plan B, “toss them in prison forever” tack. They ARE connected. And if we look at the simple manner in which 607 BCE MUST be based on Neb and Babylon, also being a “70 year” “seven time” main marker in 607 BCE, as explicitly stated in the “>gentile< times” concept and the “appointed times of THE NATIONS”, that is the “gentile” “nations”, and Daniel 2 “you yourself are the head of gold”, and Daniel 4 “the tree” “it is YOU O king”, then EVERYTHING DANIEL 4, is explained 100%. EASY. And the convoluted Jerusalem intrigues all fall into that perfect round whole. Jerusalem’s “trampling” peg, fits the gentile times, gentile based, “round” “hole”, as one WHOLE. The square peg, jammed into the triangular hole, of Bethel current hack job, is not needed.

And that brings us to Ray Franz. NOW we can know kicking Ray Franz out served at least 3 purposes:

1. They stopped his late 70s “seven times” research, while covering up Carl Olof Jonsson’s, an external elder, similar research.

2. They caused a scandal of the first stumbling wave.

3. They truncated any possible “Fred Franz—pass the research torch to—Ray Franz” relationship, as both Fred and Ray were beyond average researchers and writers.

Now kicking Ray Franz out, means when Fred Franz died (1992), there was no “take the torch” guy left! And the GB had gotten total control, now they could assuredly:

1. HALT all UN exposing prophecy!

2. Join the UN NGO!

3. Keep the USSR error in the actual prophecies about that 3rd to 4th UN placement drive after 1990!

And now NO ONE would be able to update anything, or protest about the UN NGO APOSTASY. It was DONE, the GB has served that part of their purpose, as now they want to cancel the JW ministry, and attempt to destroy the corporate ministerial resource base, to really complete their “set in opposition” work”. They ARE the enemy system, in JWs house.

So, in hindsight, there is not one JW “problem”, that does not have a root in “board-to-gb” shenanigans, and that is based on either:

1. A diversion from a simple answer.

2. A cloaked fraud’s words. (The GB)

3. A myth JWs have accepted. (such as the GB concept)

Thus it all has served the same 1897 and 1917 purpose:

1. Install a dictatorial board, to screw it all to hell.

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EVERY JW anomaly, and I can list the 1990 UN 3.0 concealment as well, is aided by GB evils. Now I do not implicate Knorr and Franz, they were the target leadership to depose.

And EVERY JW scandal, problem, controversy, cover-up and error can be EASILY rectified, and in so doing the TRUTH already there, the target of the cover up and discrediting, comes together like a Cosmic Clock of God’s Purposed Final Warning and Global Open Salvation Offer, with PROOF beyond denial.

And THAT is why they are there MUCKING it up!

But I have more to say in regard to your message, soon. (There are more statistical reasons, in also the “old school” weapons model, that NATO is a LION scale now, and Russia and China are pit bull scale. And that is why the Anglo system, “bet on the bombs”, because they can seize Russia and China’s wealth anyways, by that bet, by forced capitulation.)

And I want to state why, if I was not a Christian, and in just common sense, “world government” does indeed make sense. SOMEONE has to control the nations from their own suicide. Of course we choose God and His Christ to do just that “shepherd the nations with the rod of iron”. But if I was a globalist, I would be supporting their world government 100%, because it’s >concept<, is valid. Nations are renegades, and only learn by force, and that is coming hard on America and the EU first. Screw all that “flag waving” “national sovereignty” total bull, it is man’s second worse enemy behind religion, it is a religion of control as well, total selfish short-sighted bull.

Plus, tribal to state to national to world—GOVERNMENT—is a natural evolution. They are resisting the natural maturation of order, it has to happen, one way or another.

But of course, that is why Christ a King is the ONLY answer. These guys have no love of even themselves properly, and they will bring great misery and death to many, in their “mad”, but logical, natural, quest, to rule the world. And when Christ has given them full warning, and full opportunity to surrender to him, then the entity and its tools, will join the magma of earth’s mantle, he will pound them to the Earth’s very core.

With God the “evolution” is tribal to state to national to world to UNIVERSAL—GOVERNMENT. God always think bigger than mankind, and God is bringing in a Satan deposing “New Universal Order”, far superior to the decoys men devise for a dead Devil.

Now when God plugs in Jesus Christ, the “indestructible life”, the “last Adam” immortal “life giving spirit”, into this planet’s Life System, it stands to reason, and God’s promise of creation-wide planetary incorruption (Rom8:18-22), and you can bet, the LIFE that results for this dying celestial “bulb” called Earth, will share Christ’s base life force nature, just as all creation now groans and decays under Satan and first Adam’s current dead life force.

EVERYTHING IS CHANGING UNDER CHRIST, EVERYTHING! (Eze47; Rev21-22)

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Now on NATO, imagine taking a portion of China and Russia economic focused resource shift, and 200 trillion dollars of the top tier NATO and tech expansion burst funding, aided by using Russia and China like a work horse, by the dollar enforced dependency model, and pumping ALL that into GLOBAL NATO expansion, while Russia and China contracted militarily, for the economic revival to aid globalization.

And times that by now 25 years, and the post GWOT burst of 15 years of expansion ON STEROIDS. Then we know the 20 trillion of “shifted” 2008 hard assets, and symbolic assets, all aided GWOT’s second stage expansion boost. And it may well have been more like 40 to 100 trillion in global scam scale. Now the “trade deficit” kills the national US economy, BUT trading paper, for hard Chinese and other resources, is a HUGE free boost for the globalists. The globalists just “bought the world” at 60%, with paper, and they underpin 2/3’s of the other currencies. That paper, is “good as gold” in this post 1970 transformation, on globalization steroids, after 1990. It is an alchemy, by an illusion based wealth transference trick.

And that is why it can be said, every dollar lost as debt to the nation-state, has doubled in true resource control power to the NWO, they are already at 70%, and this cycle will tumble in the other 30%, all debt-set-up, to fall into the NWP pot, guaranteed. They own much more gold than the Global World Product 5 times over. They own more hard assets than GWP 5 times over. The nations carry a debt magnitude, owned by the globalists, also 5 times larger than GWP. Strike 3, it is done.

And if the gold is really in the 500,000 metric tonne global level, even at 200K above global gold volume now believed, they own more power than the GWP in orders of 10. The real gold volumes may be at 400 K metric tonnes, rather than the 166K now claimed.

Because as per Daniel 11:42-43, and all the way back to Babel and Egypt, GOLD is the “foundation plate” of sovereignty.

All the “economic research” is now just a distraction, from the more fundamental engine of the principles at work.

So, the principle is, for this cycle, the globalists could not be better set, the nations could not be worse. Now the globalists can successfully fund their tier of final consolidation operations, while the nations go broke, bankrupt, and must be guided into a Global “New Deal”, reliably.

And when they come back up (Isa41:1; Rev13:3), they will be able to form a world recovery, with less human overhead too boot, that will be the greatest potential recovery and wealth infusion of all global history, also aided the the BTG Battery of another 200 trillion in hard assets, to boost the nations, when BTG is then deposed.

This cycle is going to be enormous, but it is not “the end”, it is designed to lead to the same place as the other 3. To the Pentagon, they consider the Cold War to be “WW3”, this is the fourth world war cycle. In Bible number meaning, four is the totality of earthly global “foursquare” completion, that is why the UN has 4 cycles, the 4th completes the global objective of world government. So as JWs, when Fred Franz went over all those numbers, like 3,4,7,10 and 12, in prophecy principle meaning, he let us know what four means from long ago, so ti all fits now the UN1-2-3-4.

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It is not “good news”, to find out Bethell has apostatized.

It means now all of Christendom, including Beth Hell, is now in checkmate; that is what it means.

Aint such good news after all is it?

Agree on something and it may be victorious in unity. Bicker and fight and remain divided and conquered, because the enemy is not divided, and their salvo will begin with Beth Hell.

But they are coming to attempt to destroy the entire Christian world, because divided a house WILL fall, no two ways about it.

(Matthew 12:25) . . .“Every kingdumb divided against itself comes to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.

Christendom is just such a Kingdumb.

It starts on the JW Org (Dan8:13-14), so you can start to get the picture well before the total end of it all, because that takes some years, and now that the preparatory division is complete, it takes some last doing to bring in the conquest of the 8th King, King North Kingdom United, World Government. [1]

They laugh until their sides are splitting at squabbling Christians, because it means they get this battle. And because Beth Hell aids the division like acid, they will check them first on the list.

And Bethel has set up the first “spit in the Caesar Face”, shake fist from the walls of Apostate Jerusalem Bethell, as the very global context of their own legal siege on the way, “soon, very soon”. [2]

But God knows all this, and will come in again to unite a final witnessing, and God and Christ’s United Kingdom of 100 Billion angels and then some, win the War.

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8th King World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Because Bethel will not divulge that SIMPLE SUMMARY, they are removed first in the process.

[2]

Apostate “Rebel Bethell’s” Response to Australian Royal Caesar Commission? = Screw You RC, War on Caesar, GOD is With Us!!!
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T2I65JGQI34O0GP2J

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[QUOTE who=”I_know_better_now “]What proof do you have that they are Mason’s?
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What more proof do you need? JW=33dotOrg

But they have a new “self fulfilling prophecy” which has a “siege” they are themselves aiding, by rebelling against the RC.

The “attack”, “soon, very soon” on Bethel, is one of total destruction. THAT is a new teaching, but most JWs are not catching on. YET.

Bethel’s RC Response=War on Caesar
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T2I65JGQI34O0GP2J

But in that “they attack the org soon, very soon”, they also have a schedule.

They say “there will be an interval”.

And in that interval is when they want JWs to “obey the Org as crazy as it may sound”.

So ALL of these things are coming together, to crash the org, then try to trap as many JWs to show up for internment on their own dime, “soon, very soon” “each of us will face a similar situation” as that in the “Walk like a Cow-BY Sight on the GB PIed Piper” video, released in 2012, which is the same FORMULA, to flee whereever GB says, as crazy as it may sound”

EACH OF US, must be willing to obey any instructions we may receive, as CRAZY as it may sound!

THINK ABOUT IT.

So, we better pray and hope, Jehovah does something before or in that “interval”.

Because obviously they want to concentrate on sacking the org, and arresting top level leadership FIRST, then they want to go out to get JWs to come in, where they say to “flee” to.

And that is why they have their website all hyped, so they can use it, to help JWs hear the flute of the Pied Piper, when they need JWs to show up for capture, when and where they want them to go.

But as per Hosea 1:4-7, God will give them “Israel” Bethel, BUT He will NOT give them JWs globally.

NO CAN DO. (Isa36-37; Isa31:8-9; Mic5:5-6; Rev9)

And God will use angels, to ensure, they will NOT get all JWs (Zech11), then scattered globally (Zech13:7), in the final cycle to world government, THEN just beginning. (Dan8:13-14 is Rev8:3-5)

Final Cycle Graphics
http://christian.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=625#p7695

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> Yes, he read that some years ago, and actually said at the time that “it turns
> out you were right” about my cynical views.
> I guess I must have been spouting the conspiracy stuff for awhile, but I only
> remember starting a little after 9/11.
> But also confidently told my father-in-law Y2K was not going to be anything.
> I know “marine” was extremely impressed and shaken by that book.
> He still has it-maybe I should read-or would it be nothing new?

For the time it came out, it does have interesting info. Of course an insider like Smed, will have a different way of making comprehensible.

> I understood pretty much everything you said this time.
> I didn’t and don’t know anything about Franz brothers, but I bet I have tons
> of holes in my WT and Bible knowledge.

It all relates, and like everythign else, when God brings it ALL to light, in time, it is going to tell the whole story.

> I’ve just realized that I haven’t really had an answer to RBR always saying
> “robes washed in blood of lamb”, “so we should drink the blood”.
> So I was just now reading about the great crowd, and I think it fits that we
> (me ,not you, I mean) don’t drink ‘blood’, but are sprinkled and have a
> righteous standing by our faith, like pre-circumcised Abraham.

Well it also depends on what you want to do, as well. Anointing is as much your decision, as God’s, he accepts anyone, at this time, who truly desires that mission. But it is not required, it is an OFFER. Many called, few chosen.

It requires mission completion, of course. And since the Bethel apostasy will crash some true anointed, there will be “five foolish virgins” worth of replacements required. Knowledge has nothing to do with it, other than New and Kingdom covenant awareness. FAITH is required, and so on.

But just telling you, MORE ANOINTINGS will be coming, GUARANTEED, it is NOT complete, and worse it will go into depletion. I know people who found out about this, and were naturally called to started partaking and proclaiming union, in that Kingdom mission dimension.

But our original understanding is still valid. The “great crowd” and “other sheep”, can BECOME the “bread”, perfect, and they can become the blood, that is everlasting life in sinlessness, eternal life “blood” power, by Christ’s WHOLE HUMAN SACRIFICE. They “partake” by BECOMING that reality in the 1000 Year Reign of Christ.

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> I was reminded today that Abrahamic covenant, the one still in effect, was
> effective Nisan 14, 1943 BCE when Abraham crossed the Euphrates coming out of Ur
> and not that later occasion I think Sidgi was suggesting. Or don’t you agree?

Not sure exactly what you mean. But I agree it is still active. Sidgi is a little out-of-whack as far as the basic meaning of the covenants. It seems “Abram” got the promise Genesis 12:3, name changed re-affirmation Gen17, but by Genesis 22, with the Isaac near offering, it was validated, by Abraham’s action.

So it could apply to the earliest mentioning, but took time for Abraham to fully obey, which ratified the covenant:

(Genesis 22:16-17) . . .by reason of the fact that you have done this thing and you have not withheld your son, your only one, 17 I shall surely bless you and I shall surely multiply your seed like the stars of the heavens . . .

Like with Christ, the apostles partook before he was sacrificed, but when he was sacrificed, the covenant was ratified, but active from first affirmation of partaking in inclusion, but as well, like with Abraham, more obedience required.

> And that’s where ‘Bethel’ is -or one of them- where he crossed, and built an
> altar ?

Yes Genesis 13.

I’ll look more carefully at that, it has some interesting history.

> And doesn’t that have something to do with Ephraim, who had a special destiny
> of some kind or other according to his dying grandfather Jacob’s prophecy? I
> have to look -up.
> Do you think Russell could be kind of like Anna-who I think had some kind of
> male counterpart too- but who could ‘die happy’ after she saw the Messiah had
> been born? And Russell saw the kingdom born?

Yeah, he was real, he probably got the affirmation however God wanted to finish the development. That’s why they like to knock him so much, he was the main “spearhead” apostle for this transition and era. But it took more of course, God works in steps.

Only Christ is the be all.

> I’ve run out of steam now. Wish I had the energy to tell you some weird things
> that have happened.
> And I wish I knew more about you. You seem pretty unique, but are you
> Beelzebub Hook, too ? Please, please tell me something, anything about this
> place? It’s driving me crazy. Are you and SOS really enemies? You’ve been
> more than kind taking so much time to tell me things, but -like I say- I’m
> being driven crazy ! 😦

No, not hook. As far as SOS, I know those guys have to go through the first four plagues, as we go through the temple judgment, in that global context. Forgive my French, but many of these critics, will be shittin’ their pants over these next 6 years.

So, whether prophecy or the final globalization phase, I KNOW, big changes are coming, BIG.

So, I just want to get it into there heads: World Government, triggers Christ. Because they have YEARS that they can catch on, and it will be a BUMPY RIDE, and an Icebucket of REALITY for them too.

Knowing that, I have no doubt, or axe to grind on them, they got another thing coming, with God’s purpose to rack the nations, so some wake up. (Hag2:7)

So, it relieves me of the need to defend, with that kind of anxiety that inner doubt has. I have NO DOUBT about Daniel 8:13-14 meaning, or the repentance and wake up purpose (Matt25:1-13) of this judgment and big global cycle kick-off, no matter how the ball gets rolling.

I was NetDog, every now and then. And “Buckethead####”, recently, to do some song interpretations, anon.

Many songs, have a picture of parts of these things. EVERYTHING has a deeper meaning.
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Simplified Version: “End of the World” Hoax; Play Outline

Play Purpose: Presenting World Government as a Global “Movie” to Primarily Western Religious Audience for Maximum Hopeful Global Final Effect

Producer: NWO

Director: NWO

Stage: “Old World Order” Global Nation-State System

Audience: The World

Once Upon a Time….Right In Your Own Backyard…

Opening Act

Islam: Typical “Bad Guy” “Boogey Man” “Global Villain” Build Up to Insane Proportions, Globally

Israel: Typical “Virgin Damsel in Distress”

Hero: “Super Hero” Christendom Team Global Crusaders, NWO Aided, NATO Mega-Juggernaut,

Game changer: NWO “New Big Stick” “Pulled from NATO ‘Magic Black Hat'”, “at the perfect time…”, EVERYONE (and his mother) SURRENDERS!

Typical “Problem” “Reaction” “Solution” Plot: Skin of the Teeth Defeat! End of the World! Doomsday! YIKES!!! Then Total “Global Tide Has Turned” “It’s a Miracle of GOD Everyone!!!” “PEACE ON EARTH!” Celebrate World Government Everyone! Hip Hip Hoooooray!!!

Final Act

Islam Loses, Big Time (along with Russia and China)
Israel “Saved” Big Time
All Convergent into World Government “World Peace”

All to sell NWO World Government believability as “Zion” and “God’s Kingdom” on Earth, as if all prophecy finally “fulfilled”, de spite years of failures leading to the final “Big Miracle” of “God”.

Everyone lives forever, happily ever after.

Reality: God and Christ pop in, with the whole REAL “Kingdom of God” to save many first. And saving will be REQUIRED, because the NWO “Plan Z” is not good, in reality.

Coming Soon, to the Theater in Your Head!

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[QUOTE who=”the Mad JW”]
YOUR thoughts?
(Many DID request me to discuss OTHER subjects than the Twinity- so this is brought to you by popular – and unpopular- demand! heh!)[/QUOTE]

It is a principle.

The final call of Matthew 22:1-14, where Bethel apostasy gets to play the “City of Murderers” >in the future< (Dan8:13-14; Dan11:41; Isa66:6), means there are MANY “other sheep”, in that same PRINCIPLE.

Not many “other flocks”, but OTHER >>>SHEEP<<<, or, INDIVIDUALS:

(Luke 12:32) Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom.

(John 10:16) And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.

It BECOMES “one flock”.

1. Thus the world has many “other sheep”, including these “people”:

(Revelation 18:4) . . .And I heard another voice (OF GOD) out of heaven say: “Get out of her, >>>MY<<< PEOPLE, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive >part< of her plagues.

So, as Beth-Hell conveniently forgets to add, (to sell JWs a premature “the end” delusion; 2Thess2:1-2), Babylon goes down, NOT next, but under 8th King World Government (Rev17:13-18), in the DEEP 6th-to-7th plague events (Rev16:12,20), to FREE THE LAST “PEOPLE”, or “sheep” INDIVIDUALS, to salvation, a “tenth” of that city:

(Revelation 11:13) …and a tenth of the city fell…

The main “moral of the story” of the “Babylon’s fall” PRINCIPLE, is more than just “Israel” were freed, when the first Babylon went down. And that PRINCIPLE means God will down BTG, to SAVE “his people”, imprisoned in that tyranny, as some will stay stuck, UNTIL BTG goes down at the very very end.

It is the whole main purpose, of BTG downfall: Save some MORE “other sheep”, at the very very end. (Rev17:8-18; Rev16:12,20)

2. And thus Christ completes, the very ministry he began, like this, his Holy ANGELS help complete it:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and SO worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

And that >SALVATION< GLOBAL-OFFER MUST be going on, as BTG falls, to lead to over that segway, and result in this here future final affirmation of BTG downed:

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

So “those who dwell on the earth” are told ANGEL-BACKED “>everlasting< >GOOD< news to declare as >GLAD< tidings”, as some of those people, tumble out of BTG’s downfall…. INTO OTHER SHEEP SALVATION ON THE SPOT!

They are the last sheep, they must all be earthly (after Rev14:1; Rev7:1-8), they are part of the “great crowd”, as also after Revelation 7:1-8=Rev14:1, an they have that GUARANTEED GOD/CHRIST/ANGEL BACKED GLOBAL-OFFER, extended at the “last hour” (Rev17:13), by Christ, arrived (Rev14:1) in TOTAL KINGDOM POWER!!

Remember Revelation 11:13 “tenth” of the “city” saves?

(Revelation 11:13) …in that hour…

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3. Because by “no means” were humans, going to complete, the global ministry, no way, no how:

(Matthew 10:23a) . . .When they persecute YOU in one city, flee to another; for truly I say to YOU, YOU [HUMANS] will BY >NO< MEANS complete the circuit of the cities of Israel!!!!!

UNTIL, until, until, the Son of man arrives!!!!!!!

Then Christ WILL complete the “global circuit”, AFTER he is “seated” upon the Messianic Kingdom portion Throne OF THE FUTURE, REVELATION 14:1, PARALLEL, HERE:

(Matthew 25:31-33) “WHEN the Son of man ARRIVES >>>in his glory<<<, and ALL the angels with him (Matt24:31), then he will SIT DOWN on HIS glorious throne. (Not God’s “Throne”, by special permission, as in 1914) 32 And ALL the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate PEOPLE one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

4. Christ, as King in God’s Kingdom (1914 valid), is NOT the final Kingdom he MUST be Coronated by God within! That Messianic Kingdom was only BORN in 1914, it “grows up” to completion in this final cycle.

And THAT happens at his arrival.

There are TONS of “other” SHEEP, all over the world, still. They are so GREEN, at this time of the future, below, that they have not even read Matthew 25, so as to ALREADY know the answer to THIS SIMPLE SIMPLE question:

(Matthew 25:37-39) when did we see you hungry, thirsty, a stranger naked, and sick or in prison?

WHAT GIVES HERE? HOW IN HELL DID WE GET SAVED WE ASK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW! WHY! YEAH, YEAH, YEAH… WHAT’S GOING ON HERE!????

THAT is how newbie those “sheep” are, they haven’t even READ A BIBLE!!!!!!! Because? They have not read a Bible!

The “circuit” was not yet complete. They MEET CHRIST, IN PERSON, and because they were COOL, and NOT JERKS, he SAVES THEM ANYWAYS! (Rom2:12-16)

IT IS IN THE PRINCIPLE OF (Rom2:12-16) THE FIRST COMMANDMENT. Some people “obey” the first commandment, by being COOL TO OTHERS, and they don’t even know it, and that is GOOD ENOUGH with Christ, he already bought ’em anyway! (1John2:2) Just picking up the merchandise, just picking up the merchandise! (Rev14:14-16; Matt25:31-40)

WILL CALL.

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[QUOTE who=”xjw”]<quoted text>
Mad says ***unless we QUESTION it- see if ****
The members of the WBTS can’t question anything “openly”….court case in Scotland case in point uniformity in everything even in failed end time prophesies documented for all to see.
Lots of groups have similar beliefs as the WBTS and are ALL slandered as false Christians, evil slave and apostate….don’t kid yourself !!! LMAO …
BLIND OBEDIENCE to a failed FDS anti type concept !
Is the literal number of 144k men still a doctrine for salvation ?
Yes or no ?[/QUOTE]

Even Jerkeory Jackson DOUBTS the GB, and FOLDED on the Hot Seat:

Jacked-“Son”: “Ah, that I think would seem to be QUITE presumptuous, to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using.”

So, well you get the picture. Self-disfellowshiped on the stand, under oath on the Bible.

The BLIND admitting they are blind doubters, too, and it is a big “GB mythology” that works only on duped JWs, so long as no one calls you to the Hot Seat, and gets you out of the comfy Kingdom Hall echo-chamber of GB parrots, squack, squack, Polly Get no Cracker.

And THAT is a “teacher of Israel”? A “leader” like David?

Oh, poor poor JWs. I actually cringe thinking who is now leading JWs into a pit. It is sad. Really, sad.
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[QUOTE who=”Lordylordy9111″]<quoted text>
I admire you passion of this message but it was Rutherford who rejected Russell’s message and removed his teachings from the Watchtower. Are you saying God’s house is divided somehow? I totally believe God’s servants are capable of serious mistakes and I give room for this ( with a few ecceptions). I believe God’s World and message is a process of steps as it is a person maturing into adulthood. It won’t be without mistakes here on earth unless we are Jesus Christ. However, there was a division between Russell and Rutherford. Did God’s house on earth divide? If not, how could the two divide and God’s house did not divide?
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The ONLY thing Rutherford dumped, was the premature errors, he kept ALL THE BASICS. The basic truths are actually the most important feature of a “firm foundation”, for the rest of the building work. Russell did help lay a true foundation, and that is STILL present. (Thus God must be builder, of that truth, no hellfire, no trinity, no immortal soul, clear atonement understanding, God’s basic will for earth, and so on)

Let us not now, take for granted, how difficult, and important, those basics are, just because we see, they are now easy to see. At one time, they were clouded in error, heavy, thick, clouds as the “Reformation” was receding back into darkness.

As in Malachi 3 it is a process of refinement. We are expecting too much too soon, to think Russell would be at Fred Franz level off the bat. But Franz and Rutherford got the BASICS from Russell that did remain. Neither Rutherford nor Franz could have gotten step two and three, had Russell not laid step-stone 1 properly. Those basics are the foundation to this day. Not the prophecy guesses that were mostly wrong, or the pyramid unneeded truths, but there is ” truth” there, its just not from the right source.

Russell completed the Reformation intent, to fully expose the Catholic Heart of Apostasy, which dragged down all the Reformation era church attempts, back into Trinity, immortal soul, and hell fire. The reformation, was as good as DONE, back to the old core lies.

Well Russell jack- hammered the trinity, killed the immoral soul lie, and “put the hose on hell fire”. Without those basics, we just have the Reformation churches again, which are just “Neo Catholicism”, with western corporate clown suits, minus the ten ton idols, but with every core error still there!

The FOUNDATIONS, the simple foundations, is what Russell persistently laid to completion as aided by God. EVERYTHING else, in his errors, and in the false accusations against him, are to eclipse the basic truths he clarified as aided by God. The errors got dumped, but had Rutherford not had the basics—BASICS so truthful, WE TAKE THEM FOR GRANTED TODAY, JF would have been starting at the level of 1870, 40 years behind, because Russell put the ministry 40 years ahead, really God COMPLETING THE INTENT of Reformation clarification of TRUTH.

It is an uphill battle, every step of the way.

We cannot try to blame Russell, for others sins, and a few big errors. He simply is not a “Purposeful Lying Mason 33”, no way. He revealed the most important BASE Foundation of Truth, for others to build the rest, as God must guide and dictate in reality. Russell laid the BASICS, and because they are now so easy to see, we take for granted HOW IMPORTANT those bare bone basics really are.

Without Russell BASIC clarifications, we would even today, just be starting all over again.

Russell championed basics, so truthful and so integral to the rest of the “house”, so as to be so easy to see now, we forget what hell it was to get that Reformation DONE. The Catholic infiltrators, error and Satan had re-corrupted THE WHOLE REFORMATION ERA GOALS!

Thank God Russell saw fit, to FINISH, what the reformation began, because had he not, it would all still be hellfire, immortal soul and trinity.

EVEN NOW, JWs have still a clergy- style “all holy governing body”, EVEN NOW, to this day, JWs have let the Core Papal Body ROT-CORE, that also DESTROYED THE REFORMATION PURITY, back into their ministry, since 1944! So how persistent ERROR is? (2Thess2:11-12)

So as you can see, SATAN FIGHTS HARDER THAN FLESH CAN RESIST, and flesh makes errors, and Satan jumps on errors, to GET BACK IN. And now he is INSIDE of Jehovah’s witnesses CORE ministry—Satan IS the JW LEADERSHIP! Make no mistake, how BAD AND EVIL, this REALLY is! SATAN NEVER SLEEPS! And he lives millenniums. HE is on it, every minute! Him and many demons.

And until he is gone, and the flesh is transitioned into perfection, it would re-corrupt, over and over and over, forever. But God set a TIME LIMIT to the errors’ time allowance.

So yes, there is no total truth, until Christ arrives, this just affirms the point WE NEED Christ to arrive with the REAL AND TOTAL REALITY.

ALL HUMAN ERROR, ALL MINISTERIAL ERROR, ALL GOVERNMENT ERROR, ALL ERROR AND IMPERFECTION, is for us to KNOW, God and Christ is the ONLY SOLUTION, and it but begins with his arrival. They are NEEDED BADLY.

Now we have to recognize we have kept the BASICS, no one but Russell was completely summarizing as to why all future truth, MUST have those basics correct.

Though the truth is simple, one piece at a time, there is a little to this story, I mean as you stated and I agree, this is a LEGACY OF A SPIRITUAL WAR all the way back to Abel, Enoch and Noah! And all the rest, are part of a LEGACY OF TRUTH, that all have fought in their own way, to deliver it to this last “remaining ones of her seed” to finish off, as God wills and aids.

OF COURSE it aint going to all go smooth as silk, this is BIG! This is REAL, Satan is AGAINST it! Of course there will be all kinds of error and accidents, sell outs and bad decisions, infiltrations, murder, lies, theft and resistance!

It just makes it MORE REAL!

The BASICS Russell clarified as God aided, remain forever, and contrary to popular belief, and now easy to see, “take it for granted”, those basics had to be set FIRST. THAT is Russell’s legacy of truth. Now with the “seven times”, it is still 607 BCE, just based on the GENTILES, the “times”, are to be about anyways.

Seven “Seven Times” Based on “Gentile Time” Dates (Graphical Images)
http://christian.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=625#p7695

EASY FIX. (As usual, everything else is just a distraction! (aided by apostate Bethel, our latest resister. (Zech3:1))

And that SOVEREIGN TRUTH Russell was not alone in developing, as others influenced his thinking on the seven times, but they are as true as the sky is blue, because the “seven times” is why there are TWO “3.5 time” WITNESSES, for 2520 DAYS, as the final seven times, and the final 3.5 times, 1260 days is coming, and we are being given an opportunity to carry the legacy forward. Is it all coincidence the “seven times” is also present in 2 witnessings of 1260 days, 3.5 times, to get seven times as 2520 days of final warning?

So there is no reason to think it is “all about one man” in the development of truth from the Christ, the true “one man”, to the apostles, to Satan’s eventual Papal monopoly, to busting it up and getting Bibles on the presses, as the secular kings and princes of Germany protected Luther, and put him behind their castle walls, behind 1000 of the baddest German Knights in all the land, guarded NIGHT AND DAY, to keep him SAFE from the Inquisitor and Pal sneaky snakes and rats, to pick his brain for TRUTH of THE BIBLE they had not even yet read!, as God used the Reformation Christians, to print Bibles ad infinitum, to this day, as Satan overran the reformation into the same core errors as the Papacy.

Think they let Luther out of their sight, when they knew the Pope wanted him DEAD? Think they didn’t have scouts out, and eyes on the walls to check for the Catholic Rats and Vipers, and 1000 swords all around Luther? Nope, it was a BIG DEAL to them princes and their crew! They wanted the TRUTH, that we just take for granted on our bookshelves and book stores and internet. They WANTED that Bible! Imagine the time, the “Bible” was just hearsay! FOR CENTURIES! Just a word-of-mouth story! Imagine how some people wanted to READ it, have one, for themselves, while the Catholic Papacy guarded it for themselves, like gold.

Those princes, kings and people WANTED A FREAKIN’ COPY OF THE BIBLE FOR GOD’S SAKE! And, soon thereafter, they got it from front page to back page, and billions of copies! Think God was not involved with Luther and the rest, and that “downpour of Bibles covering the Earth, dropping from the sky in the billions”? Sure he was. And that is exactly what ti was.

We take the Bible for granted today. And it was reformers, helped by >>worldly<< kings and princes, who got THAT done, with God’s help, FOR US ALL! Let us THANK THEM ALL! The “house of God” lying Papacy was the ENEMY of the Bible and the truth; same old story is it not?

We take the Bible as if a phone book, that assured and “the way it always was”. But the truth is, it was a BLOODY WAR, to get the Bible on just one printing press. But GOD, won that war didn’t he? It took CENTURIES! THINK about how long it took, to get out of the Dark Ages itself! And ALL THAT TIME, the Bible was under Papal LOCK AND KEY! If they caught you with a FRAGMENT of the Book of Peter, to the stake you went the next day, with your fragment!

We today, generally take that BATTLE all for granted as well, every bloody day the Catholics TRIED to make a monopoly over the Bible. There were anointed there too, FIGHTING a tidal wave of Satanic resistance to THE BIBLE ITSELF!, year after year, for hundreds of years. But, in time, THE EVIL LOST! So yes God has used the “Christendom organization” too, to PRINT billions of Bibles. The final call, is a big call!

But in time, in the 1800s, the secular authorities OUTLAWED the Inquisition, and people had to FLEE TO AMERICA, to just be able to think! Satan created religious busy work and controversy in all Europe, to STALL PROGRESS!! This is not all random! And in time, the real truth was free to come out again, and men who made impressions on young Russell, allowed God to further seeds of FOUNDATIONAL TRUTH, that there is no doubt in all heaven and Earth, Russell put pen to paper, wore out shoes and vocal chords promoting those BASICS, putting his own money into it, as a driven apostle of BASIC YET NEEDED ALL IMPORTANT FOUNDATIONAL TRUTH.

And it included the BASIC TRUTH of the “appointed times” of the “NATIONS” as limited, “folks, there is only so much time you know”. That BASIC WARNING IS THAT, the days of the imperfect HUMAN rulers of this world, and their demon backers, is timed by God, and TEMPORARY. (All the Bethel hoopla, is a non-issue, 607 still stands, as does 1914 [1])

But the flesh, in general, doesn’t even appreciate a kind, advanced warning does it? No can do, leave us alone Russell! The other power system, does NOT like to here about their temporary nature do they? Nope. It was JUST A BASIC NO-BRAINER WARNING, that there is ONLY SO MUCH TIME! THAT IS TRUE!

But the “powers that be”, for a little while longer, want to live on in denial, and they will, but Christ will still DROP IN on them ANYWAY, and HE will rule the world, for God to eventually take the total throne of everything, in TIME, TIME that Russell and others HELPED us start to PAY ATTENTION TO as IMPORTANT!

BECAUSE TIME, IS IMPORTANT, to recognize where it is leading, and to stay awake in!

It has been three steps forward from God, slapped two steps back by Satan, and on and on, but in time, a step at a time, the WHOLE truth comes out, and it all equates to the same warning:

first step, John:

(Matthew 3:1-2) In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Judea, 2 saying: “REPENT, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.”

next step, Christ:

(Matthew 4:17) From that time on Jesus commenced preaching and saying: “Repent, YOU people, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.”

And the theme is the same, it all leads to Christ, and he is not imperfect, and 100% truth and perfection comes with HIM ALONE, not with men, and we have known this from way back. We, have to FIGHT, to just stay one step ahead of Satan!

But when God backs it, it always advances past Satan’s last mountain he erects to try to subvert and stop THE TRUTH:

(Zechariah 4:6-9) Accordingly he answered and said to me: “This is the word of Jehovah to Zerubbabel, saying, ‘“Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” Jehovah of armies has said. 7 Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel [you will become] a level land. And he will certainly bring forth the headstone. There will be shoutings to it: “How charming! How charming!”’” 8 And the word of Jehovah continued to occur to me, saying: 9 “The very hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house, and his own hands will finish [it].

We need not get sidetracked INTO ANYTHING, but what we NEED to do now, and into the future.

(Hebrews 12:1-2) So, then, because we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also put off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 as we look intently at the Chief Agent and Perfecter of our faith, Jesus.

Agape

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Jerusalem Exile=Destruction? 607 BCE versus 586 BCE Dating—All’s Good! All’s Well, Couldn’t Be Better!
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/11/17/607-bce-versus-586-bce-dating-alls-good-alls-well-couldnt-be-better/

Seven “Seven Times” Based on “Gentile Time” Dates (Graphical Images)
http://christian.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=625#p7695

 

 

[QUOTE who=”Lordylordy9111″]<quoted text>
If Russell was a real apostle of God then the Bible Student who followed him after Rutherford rejected Russell are also disciples of God or is apostasy also taken the Bible Students?
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They will come in in this final round, it ties it all together. JWs got to presumptuous, so God is tossing it to humble it all, while informing everyone how it ties together as “one flock”.

One flock that GOD DEFINES, not “religious labels” people get to attached too, as we know.

They are in a good position to understand the “second witness”, like Paul said “judge NOTHING before the Lord comes” And that means judged as good or bad, period. No judging, just hope, will save us too, if we stick to UNITY rather than division.

Now “judging” Bethel as apostate, THAT is a no-brainer. It is what ti is, it is BLATANT, when our eys are opened. But the splinters from Russell, they still respect his basics, and seven times sovereign meaning of a time limit.

God will make that time limit very clear, as it approaches, it was all to get through to as many as possible. Not to be a “truth monopoly” of one “religious tribe”, by a corporate label, where even Jehovah’s witnesses, which it is, has been hi-jacked to be made a corporate tax dodging label.

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This is the more complete, same article:

Bethel Versus Caesar—Wonder Who Will Win?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/bethel-versus-rc-caesar-wonder-who-will-win/

BUT, THINK ABOUT this:

[size=150][color=#800000]After DECADES of God forsaken GB darkness, they now miraculously KNOW, like the sun rising tomorrow, it is “soon, very soon” WE are going down brothers! Yep. Just in brothers! We know the assured future schedule in detail, ALL OF A SUDDEN—OUT OF THE BLUE, we have just NOW received the exactly fully detailed itinerary of our own corporate siege and destruction, and that SOON, VERY SOON![/color][/size]

And JWs don’t smell a rat in that “new miracle”, that they won’t quite call “new light”, because they don’t want to highlight the importance of this update too much, but rather, just enough? And all of it nicely dovetailing with a spitting in the RC face from corporate Bethel? And none of its is connected to all this post 2012 hype fest and GB worship fest also miraculously coming to “new light” from this “FAITHFUL SLAVE” blasphemy?

Thus this near future Bethel “siege” will, in time, relate to Bethel’s rebellious response to the RC—it reveals Bethel plans to fight any changes, in their general attitude. Their general stance to continue to aid and abet child abuse, to put words into the RC judges mouth, to deny all allegations, and to maintain their illegal override of civil and criminal law, to continue to hinder secular criminal investigation agencies looking into criminal activity among the Jehovah’s witnesses community, has now been demonstrated and maintained by Bethel.

[i][b]So we now know what the future strategy now entails as far as Bethel’s Head Butting position and reaction to requests for changes from civil inspectors: Deny, Delay and Resist. Bethel’s GB is up on the JW “Jerusalem” wall, shaking fists, rattling legal sabers, spitting at and taunting the “Romans” down below, because that is what Rebel Bethel is really doing here.

But now we know for sure, the Apostate and Rebel Tack Bethel will take! Deny, Stall and FIGHT![/b][/i]

Poor guys.

Bethel’s Armageddon Hoax Basics
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/bethels-armageddon-hoax-basics/

And now watch the hype video “Walk By Faith”, released in 2012, which now dovetails into this latest escalation in the pre-siege setup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcslJ61EnmI

Now you know how ALL of this hype, is leading to an event Beth-HELL KNOWS is coming, because they are in on it with the globalist intel greater global engineers, now controlling the JW Org, for its destruction, as per Daniel 11:32a.

[size=150][color=#FF0000]What it means is, they want JWs to “Flee to FEMA” (or wherever), on the spot, that very second, no questions asked! they very split second the Dirty Rat GB plays their JW Pied Piper Flute, for JWs Lemmings to drive to their own internment, car pool even.[/color][/size]

DANGER!!!!!

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> Hello Brother, thank you for the link to your blog, I found it refreshing and
> great to see the cycles explained. I have noticed some of these things myself,
> but nice to see it confirmed with corresponding scriptures. I prayed to Jehovah
> for confirmation in my finding and found your post and have since come across
> an anointed former Bethelite who sees these things also..I fully understand
> what ever is happening with Bethel right now is part of her coming judgement,
> refinement and exposing of the man of lawlessness. I have had over ten years
> to go through my stumbling and trials, to see and understand the real truth of
> Gods word..Keep up the good work brother, have you made any video’s? Speak soon
> Agape..

Your welcome brother. I will answer this more fully. But would like to say, we need to retain the truth of the “first witness”, that is the meanings of 1914-1918, because that SAME MEANING, just repeats, but into world government 8th King complete.

In reality it is a GENERIC SUPER TRUTH, very simple to see, their completion is required, for Christ to make his completion, and God His, because GOD sets Christ as final “Temple” “Stone” (Zech4:6-9; Zech3:6-10), and Final “King of kings” in the Messianic Kingdom completion.

And if we stay on the BIG TRUTHS we ALREADY believe, just requiring a BIG REMINDER, and a few summary areas also “finishing” (Rev10:5-11), and keep it “generic” so to speak, it can BROADEN the appeal, because God will be calling more than just Jehovah’s witnesses. (Matt22:1-14)

And these events coming up, will in time garner global attention, for that simple statement of world government completion, triggering God and Christ, absolutely.

It is SO SIMPLE, as to be hidden in plain sight. So simple, it can appeal to many many people who are new to this, or even experienced as well.

And its simplicity, is WHY the Bethel Frauds have “slipped in”, to try to CONCEAL it, and harm people’s faith:

(Jude 3-4) Beloved ones, though I was making every effort to write YOU about the salvation we hold in common, I found it necessary to write YOU to exhort YOU to put up a hard fight for the faith that was once for all time delivered to the holy ones. 4 My reason is that certain men have >>>SLIPPED IN<<<…

Same old story! (But Dan8:12, and Dan11:32a, are unique, and about Bethel’s apostate AND IMPOSTOR core)

And as long as they have JW’s “ears and eyes” they way they do now, most JWs will stay under this big modern delusion. (2Thes2:1-2) So, God has to remove that “stranger’s voice” (John10), in time. (Dan8:13-14)

Once that happens, and it is not overnight (hence Dan8:14; Isa37:30-32; Hos6:1-3), then the truth can come out with no “set in opposition” enemies to its simple message.

But like Jude said, it will be a spiritual fight. So let us pray much, and prepare for that WAR, because that is what it is, a spiritual war, probably to pop up with a real global war, we shall see. But that is just the same distraction they like to use, before a big UN event arises. This time, it will be World Government.

But I will give a more complete answer to your question/comment.

Thanks

By the way Lordy911, is seeing this too. As you know most on Topix are not on the same page, with this, or each other. And Topix, is now mostly a “blow back” of GB scandal. Bible talk has been eclipsed by GB scandal and damage control banter. I mean it is ridiculous, when we realize, it did not use to be “all about the criminal GB”, like it is now.

But we should be “hearing” from “heaven” soon. (Rev8:1-5)

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(Revelation 8:1-2) . . .And when he opened the seventh seal, a silence occurred in heaven for about a half hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels that stand before God, and seven trumpets were given them.

“a silence occurred in heaven for about a half hour”?

But when we do “hear from heaven”, soon, in the temple judgment “firestorm”:

(Revelation 8:3-6) And another angel arrived and stood at the altar, having a golden incense vessel; and a large quantity of incense was given him to offer it with the prayers of all the holy ones upon the golden altar that was before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense ascended from the hand of the angel with the prayers of the holy ones before God. 5 But right away the angel took the incense vessel, and he filled it with some of the fire of the altar and hurled it to the earth. (fire of the altar, is temple purification events; Zech3:2-5) And thunders occurred and voices and lightnings and an earthquake. 6 And the seven angels with the seven trumpets prepared to blow them.

Then we will know what that “a silence occurred in heaven for about a half hour” meant. God has been “silent” on the Bethel apostasy.

But not for long.

Timed Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses – Daniel 8:13-14
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/timed-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

Daniel 8:13-14 Details the Coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/daniel-813-14-details-the-coming-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

The Total World Judgment “The Judgment” Begins With Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/the-total-world-judgment-the-judgment-begins-with-jehovahs-witnesses/

Temple Judgment Progression to Temple Completion – Table and Description
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-progression-to-temple-completion-table-and-description/

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Just another note on some principles that are within the original Jehovah’s witnesses, hence why Bethel is dumbing it down for JWs, while their scandals fuel the external undermining.

This forecast is taking all the original validity of the “world-war-to-world-government” formula, which principle is also in the original prophecy, and merely plugging in post 1990 3rd and future 4th UN cycles meaning, into the VERY SAME PATTERN.

Nothing is unique or new here, it uses the first pattern, thank God, except keeping up to date, which going out of date after 1990’s Bethel silencing of the 3rd UN event, as they went UN NGO to covertly promote it, is what the purpose of GB Control Council front group IS ALL ABOUT.

And that is how we can know the 4th UN cycle coming up, is designed upon the same pattern in the global formula, but now to present what the League of Nations was but the FIRST STEP towards. UN 2.0, 1945, was the SECOND STEP. That 1990 3rd UN placement was the THIRD STEP, and so on, to UN 4.0, as they take the FOURTH STEP into World Government in time.

Because that is now easy to see, when we plug in that UN 3rd step, they came in to say nothing about it to JWs. THAT is the key, UN1-2-3 connection, that they truncate, so no one sees that easy to see UN 1-2-3. And then UN1-2-3-4 is also, of course, a big mystery to misled JWs.

Thus that Daniel 8, and 11 cover up, has the unique record, of the 3rd UN event prelude and period, WITH this co-developing apostasy, so we can know when in history (Dan11:29 “different”, unique, Cold War period ending), they also manifested full apostasy. Daniel 8:12,23, and Daniel 11:30-32a, place the 3rd UN event, WITH this co-developing, parallel, apostasy and subversion development.

And though God makes it easy to see, it is not so easy for the enemy to see, or guessers. First, it MUST respect the first witnessing of 1914-1918 principles and validity and “master pattern” prophecy. Second, God’s spirit and Word makes certain, they cannot just hi-jack the real understanding, their minds get confused, because they reject the first witnessing truths.

SO, they MUST slip into the ministry, study JW prophecy, BEFOREHAND, to know how to hi-jack it now. And they work from WITHIN, as per Daniel 11:32a, and Daniel 8:12. AND right now, they are getting exposure to the fact of their coming expulsion, and they KNOW Daniel 8:13-14 “trampling” has been secured upon Bethel “because of transgression” (Dan8:12), and in particular, that pinnacle UN NGO “transgression causing desolation”. (Dan8:13) And that “transgression causing desolation” is obviously “disgusting thing causing desolation” related, and it is, they colluded with the 1990 “THEY place the disgusting thing” of Daniel 11:31b. (Matt24:15 parallel)

And the final points are:

1. They KNOW the prophecy better than JWs at this time, and that is why they can use it against JWs.

2. It is so severe, God’s angels under Christ, in covert “destroyer” mode, WILL be required to free up the temple, AFTER the desolation accounting is complete in God’s eyes and 3.19 year timing, as half of Daniel 8:13-14, which is 6.38 years probable.

Because it is rather cryptic in Daniel 8:14, it means we have to pay attention to the years of the JW org desolation, we can’t tell if it is 3 or 6 years, but 3 years is a minimum, because it is a JW “sign of Jonah”, and it defines the abyss of Revelation 9, which temple desolation events will be the context of that “darkness”, hence Daniel 8:14,26 “the evening”. It is in the Daniel 11:41 “invasion” context completing, as the infiltration results in full coup.

3. Whatever it is they have planned they want JWs, and the world, to think it is “the end”, it must get severe, BUT it is NOT “the end”, it is designed to resolve into the World Government “global solution”, so we need endurance (Matt24:13), and patience, not to get controlled by hype and fear, as bad as it may get.

That “the end” delusion is at 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 as well. THAT is their main JW mental smokescreen, “it is the end brothers!, flee where we tell you! look no further!”

THAT is why there are there among JWs, bypassing UN3-4, and instead hyping this “the end” HOAX, which is just the 7th King required downfall, before the 8th King can fully rise as all of Revelation 17:8-18, parallel Rev11:7 same global “sword stroke” “abyss” “ascension”, but that is SOME YEARS after the Daniel 8:13-14, Rev8-9 Temple Judgment has completed, to cleanse the temple, to prepare a valid final summary witnessing, “second witnessing” of the “TWO witnesses”.

Of course they want JWs never to understand this, to be downed in ruin instead, with nary a clue. And that is why God will send out His angels, they are all over all of the temple judgment prophecies, and that is why. (Zech3:1-9, Mal3:1-5; Rev8:3-5, Rev9; Dan8:13-14; 1Pet4:17)

 

Thanks brother, talk to you soon. Stay wary.

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Some other things to consider. For example Jehovah’s witnesses are not our enemy, they are the target of the “lawless one”. They sing “To Whom Do We Belong”, they have to notice the melody changed, BUT they do not notice the lyrics changed in important aspects:

Old lyric: “which God do you obey?”;

New lyric: “Which god do you [NOW] obey?”;

What is that supposed to mean?

Is that a rhetorical question with a lower case “g” “god”?

Why is UN NGO Bethel now re-questioning who they and JWs “now obey”?

Looks like more than melodies and lyrics have changed in Jehovah’s witnesses.
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So we have to ignore the target of their villianization, because JWs are still our brothers and sisters, and these “lawless one” corrupters want to pin all this on your average JW, for a negative global reputation, in the “bad aftertaste” aftermath of the engineered org downfall. (And who knows what kind of dirt they reveal on the “holy leadership”, for their Exit Effect.

Now the reason I say this, is because God may give Bethel an opportunity to repent and make full disclosure. The time for the initial repentance (Rev2:20-23) passed after 2001, when the UN NGO was exposed with nary a peep from Bethel in apology or disclosure in any JW wide official public form. Instead JW communal guilt with that covert-to-overt UN NGO went “pandemic”. Make no mistake, that UN NGO is very very bad news.

So we do not know how God will form the recovery. We know He will, we know it involves “five wise virgin” anointed Christians, coming into approval through the temple judgment. We also know “five foolish virgins” anointed fallout, depletion, is ALSO going to occur in rejection from God, as aided by the modern Bethel corrupters. Satan is there to topple anointed, and he will get some.

But what this means, is a final call even now is forming. Imo, this spike in recent “partaker numbers” is preparing the final “alternate” “fill ins” for this fallout so big, God symbolically calls it “five foolish virgins” worth, of the ten. Not 1, not 3, but FIVE, a symbolic half of the group. At this time Bethel states when the tribulation starts, it will be “all final sealed” complete. But that is a LIE. Yes there will be a tribulation, but we will have FALLOUT from toppled anointed made official in the temple judgment phase of that “tribulation of those days”.

So MORE ANOINTED ARE NEEDED NOW, and at that time. And the GOAL of Satan is to keep anointing incomplete, thus final seals affirmed AFTER (and as) the final “two witnesses” mission is ACCOMPLISHED, is also aborted. Thus the final warning is unknown and aborted. Thus world government 666 totality slips in unwarned. Thus Messianic Kingdom completion is aborted. Thus we all fail. THAT is Satan’s goal in all this.

Though he will fail (Rev11:3), he will try none the less; and that brother, is the REALITY of this situation. Though I do not push this on others, they must arrive at their own awareness, but some start proclaiming anointing as they understand this reality, I have known personally. So I do believe God is opening this to anointed, and those about to be anointed, first. You may already partake in that Kingdom awareness, I do nto know, but if you do not, you may consider prayer on all these developments, and THE FACT anointed fallout is coming with the temple judgment, and more will be needed to form the completion of it all.

And since there is 144000 controversies, it matters not if that is literal, by era, or symbolic make no difference. It is a divine exact number, even of in the millions, it is God’s business, not ours, but it MUST COMPLETE, whatever it is, God has exact specifications in His purpose. We do not know all these “specs”, but as sure as every atom in this universe, that “spec” IS there, and that is also why this final cycle will fully run its full course to the divine specification of TOTAL completion.

AND the “first oil” of the original Jehovah’s witnesses ministry sovereign truths about all of this in that “first witness” pattern, is the thing to PRESERVE and RESERVE for that “five discreet virgins” “final oil”. IT MUST BE BASED ON THAT ORIGINAL “OIL” LIGHT. It is preserved, from the ORIGINAL “enlightenment” batch, that lit up, in 1914-1918. And it took a little “prepare lamps” “filler up” “light up” “announce Bridegroom” time, but it all came out.

The final “light up”, the “second witness”, is based on the SAME “OIL” of that first prophecy explained light. That is why our original ministry “oil” MUST be “preserved” in us, and relit in time, when God causes “the cry arose in the middle of the night”, “here is the Bridegroom, be on your way out to meet him”.

And to clarify, that is the God final anointing (before final sealing affirmation), which this Christ “Temple Arrival”, FIRST, will “inspire”, it is not the 7th Trumpet conquest arrival, of the deep deep 6th trumpet of Rev11:11-12! When that door closes, the “wedding reception” is full, all final anointings are completed, for the end result of the final “light”. True it does lead to the full Christ arrival, of course, but Christ, as we know, visits the Temple FIRST.

Just so we do not start to expect “the end” too soon, as per 2Thess2:1-2. This modern apostasy MUST be globally exposed, “revealed”, along with the “lawless one” who leads it from Bethel, WELL BEFORE the total Christ arrival in Kingdom completion power! Not a little, but completely, as PART of the final warning, basically “chapter one”.

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Thus, forming a recovery in Bethel, may be how God does this. But He may just toss the whole thing, and their repentance, or lack of it, WILL influence God’s decision on that matter. And that is what I will fully explain, next.

See, there are ALREADY 100,000 Missiles flying into spiritually besieged Bethell. What difference will one more make? Right?

BUT, in my opinion, if the “missile” is Bethel’s own confession, global apology, and total full disclosure and forsaking of the GB concept, entity and works, THEN that self-disclosure is the most effective of them all. A criminal confession, is the most damning “evidence”.

But in this case, it could be the way to conclude this mess, so JWs can save a little face, repent, be healed, and the “global confession” leads into EVERYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE FULLY DISCLOSED.

>>Then JW global-notoriety, and global-attention, works for the advantage of all.<<

And thus it is not just one more “external critic” knowckign lawless Bethel, it is their own ADMISSION! And THAT would be advantageous for the final warning credibility.

But, this is just my speculation, God is NOT DEPENDENT on men, “organization” or ANYTHING. BUT, He may just, MAY just, extend this opportunity. So, hopefully God forms an awareness in this sector of the now overrun anointed Christian ministry, inside of Bethel itself.
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Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-1of-4/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 2 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-2-of-4/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 3 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-3-of-4/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 4 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-4-of-4/

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I apologize, I do not have the time to really refine any of these articles, and I just state what comes out, but I hope you understand the strategic advantage Bethel remnants could aid, after God lays the GB low with much, if not the whole, JW organization.

But He may just bulldoze it all, this is just my hopeful speculation He might finish it, where He started it, as far as earthly humans, tools and resources for the ministry. Often, God chooses the path of most resistance, when it comes to using imperfect humans to complete the mission for our area of responsibility.

Thanks Brother, talk to you soon.

Work on any Bethelites, at any level, you may know. That is what I am getting at, maybe God won’t just scrub the entire thing, and start new in another collective anointed Christian vessel.

BUT WE MUST USE THE ORIGINAL “OIL”. THAT we KNOW! It is right in the logic of Matthew 25:1-13, and that parable PARALLELS the temple judgment prophecy. Parables often parallel judgment prophecy, for added, “registered”, details.

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On December 23, 15, Lordylordy9111 wrote:
> In my research I have read a quit a few times that Rochefellers are the
> bloodline of Rothchilds but I can’t find anything to substantiate this. Is this
> true? Sorry to keep asking you questions but you seem to be knowledgeable about
> this.

I do not know on the Bloodlines, but I do know the Rothschilds are head puppet masters of all those US elites like Rockefeller and Carnegie, JP Morgan, and so on.

The “Black Nobility” is also a very interesting research area for the European monarchs hubbing relationships to Charlemagne. It seems it keeps going back and back.

“”A highly ambitious 12-year-old girl named Bridgeanne d’Avignon has been looking into ancestry and lineages, especially going back to English ancestry. She has been working with her grandfather to discover common ancestry among United States presidents. “”

“”Every US president, but one are related back to an English king named King John Lackland. Only Martin Van Buren isn’t related to the English king. No other historian has made as many connection as this little girl has made with the help of her grandfather. D’Avignon’s next goal is to get to Washington D.C.””

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAqXZ08thdo

Now if you take those relatively modern US presidents back to King John Lackland, he will pop up in the “Black Nobility” some how, some way, and they thread back to Charlemagne. (Maybe Bridgeanne has done the Rockefellers, she did do a little of the “Hollywood Aristocracy” connections of some known actors “family relations” to these presidents, thus ALSO back to the Black Nobility. (For example Brad Pitt and Jolie, are part of the “family tree”; Thus “Hollywood” is also a “caste system” of what is really “demon children”, so to speak. (So everything has a related “royalty” to the biggest picture, banking, entertainment, military, religious controllers, etc.

So we do have a core “bloodline”, probably back to Nimrod, of we could know it all. And the Illuminati stuff is more recent, in its layer, of this same “pyramid”.

Of course when researching the “Black Nobility”, you have to cut to the chase, and bypass the Wiki sanitized version:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_blacknobil05.htm

Like:

Rockefeller

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_rockefeller.htm

Committee of 300

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_committee300.htm

etc, etc,. Check that page out.

To name just a few. SO IT DOES ALL START TO “HUB” INTO ONE WHEEL!

And that page hubs many more subjects, into that “Black Nobility” of a somewhat traceable era of Satan’s seed, because that is what we are really talking about here. Satan’s “royals”.

Agape

Clarification

“”Imo, this spike in recent “partaker numbers” is preparing the final “alternate” “fill ins” for this fallout so big, God symbolically calls it “five foolish virgins” worth, of the ten.””

NOT that the “fill in” will all be from the JW ministry, though it does have the point of furthest “accurate knowledge” aiding this process. But many anointed and future candidates are now “fled”, for various means, from the Matthew 24:15 “disgusting thing”, which in most general terms is the whole JW claimant anointed Christian ministry, next in specificity is the “Neo-Roman” Governing Body, and the RED FLAG of most explicit note in prophecy of Daniel, as Jesus tied in for us, is the GB “Neo-Rome Ensigns” of the “UN NGO”. THAT is the big “disgusting thing” to “catch sight of” NOW!

But the salvation message to come from the Bethel downfall, is at Matthew 22:1-4, and it is GLOBAL. So, some anointed candidates or anointed, may be coming in from the “broad ways” of all of Christianity.

(Matthew 22:9) Therefore go to the roads LEADING OUT of the city, and anyone you find invite to the marriage feast.’

Now that is more than just anointed, imo, but future anointed or anointings are to come in for the final warning mission, at global final call scale, for full eventual awareness of the “OPENED” “little scroll” of Two Witnesses 2.0, final “witnessing” to Messianic Kingdom completion in this final round, in that Rev10 Divine Commission, to precede the final 1260 days final warning. “Opened” as in fully understood as to Kingdom mission requirements.

And in that mission, the final sealings take place en route to the end of the 1260 days, as it leads into full world government, and hence the Christ arrival, AFTER that final warning is ceased to define Rev11:7-10, and Daniel 12:11 dual criteria, all “affirmation sealed” and ready to go.

The whole point of this Daniel 8:13-14 timed and phased temple judgment, is to make that final clarification for 100% “accurate knowledge” to prepare that final warning. Much “false Christ”, that is fake or rejected “seller’s oil” seekers and producers “anointed” FAILURES, for various reasons of rejection, will occur in that substantial Daniel 8:14 timing.

Some of them will try to say the 1260 days has begun, but it will be TOO SOON. Others like Bethel, will simply fall flat on their face in Temple Judgment global intrigues and prophecy forecast failure, thinking that conflagration, is “the end”, also TOO SOON.

Thus Daniel 8:14 timing, will allow the “weeding out” of that false forecasts. Daniel 8:13-14 events, judgment meanings and “right condition” timing, will also verify itself, >in time<, hence Daniel 8:14 and Daniel 8:26 affirmation statement from Gabriel.

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Keep in mind God will not be “silent” on this for long. And as usual EVENTS will end up marking the Daniel 8:13-14 and Rev8 inception prophecy for a second round, hence TWO witnessings.

So, in time these events will be behind us, and their realization will aid the prophecy understanding, as will the timing. And as time plods along, en route in reality through the “tribulation of those days” of the 7th King subservience (Dan11:42-43), and more and more PROPHECY, en route to 8th King, world government, things, the prophecy, will “explain themselves” in this process.

And that is why it is a drawn out process.

This explains it in the context of when BTG goes down, under World Government.

Babylon_the_Great_Deposed_Under_World_Government_-_Proof_in_Prophecy_and_Globalization_Logic

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/babylon_the_great_deposed_under_world_government_-_proof_in_prophecy_and_globalization_logic_draft-version1-htm.pdf

 

I have not posted the blog post of that yet. Though a draft, it is pretty complete as that PDF version for your reference.

But it outlines why the final cycle will be epic, for total completion of everything, and will run the full course.

Agape

Hey Star, thanks for not being offended that I couldn’t read your stuff and for giving me the abbreviated version, much easier to read. Thank you for taking the time.

Jesus is already saving people. To be saved one must believe on Jesus. That doesn’t mean it saves you from the tribulation to come but it does save you from the very real lake of fire.

I didn’t see though where Israel and the new temple comes in? But maybe you think it’s all just part of the dog and pony show going on?
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Your Welcome, I TOTALLY understand, blah, bah, blah, blah. LOL

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The principle is: THEY MUST PRESENT THE DECOY FIRST.

Jot it down, please.

So there are Masonic “Temple” plans, which one can research. Of course, they want to target that global focus, for their decoy as well. Just be aware, the ALL OF THE DECOYS “arrives” first.

And as a Christian of the spiritual faith, of the great spiritual REALITY, we need to be wary, and enduring (Matt24:13), and in unity.

So my purpose is to unify >spiritually<, not in some “global team” of the corporatization of a “religion war tribe”. But to unify, by some basic principles that are true, yet “generic”, that others can use NOW, to see if this PRINCIPLE of the DECOY COMING FIRST, is what will manifest.

Hence, jot it down. I already know they have to use this ruse, others will catch on fully later, we are ALL in the same development, WE are a target to divide, and mislead, to the FAKE.

Because it will NOT be a “wham, bam, thank you mam”, in time it will become more obvious certain PRINCIPLES will start to become recognizable, to expose the DECOY, for yourself, and others, as awareness is very “individual”.

Of course, the sooner you are exposed to the PRINCIPLE, that they will present the DECOY, AS IF the real thing, and that first, the better.

Divisions set up for conquest those divided. Spiritual unity, unseen by the naked eye, but present under God and Christ, allows truthful principles, to UNITE for spiritual victory, to actually MAKE the triumph, and NOT be fooled by the DECOY, who will try to fool and will fool, many.

But NOT all; and the real salvation will be direct, very “personal”, one on one, Christ and the person. No “middleman”, and by a force so enormous, death and demons are ZERO limitation to his ability to save, when it becomes REALITY, at the climax period, DIRECTLY. No more talk, but the REAL thing. We do not need to die, the typical death, to meet Christ. When Christ arrives, death is MOOT, it has no power over him, or anything that belongs to him, NOTHING.

It is of course logical why they “arrive” first, with the fake. THAT is ALL they got! That is the ONLY thing they can do.
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Just unify it what you can agree on, because dividing over the obligatory religious squabbles and division, is part of the “divide and conquer” tactic of the NWO and their god, Satan.

So imo, help others, my overtly or covertly finding point of unifying agreement, and if they are not on the Christ page, go with the God page, and work for the power of love, to aid unifying the spiritual context of people unifying with God, by OBEYING HIM, no matter how they may arrive at that approval, by Him, no humans required.

God is about love and unity, and He will be coming out to SAVE MANY first.

So, think positive and obey love, no matter how they may try to persuade you into the game of divisions and hatred, it only divides for their CONQUEST of that target.

Agape

So, yes, I think they have a Temple DECOY, and I think it will be part of the World Peace Play Hoopla, used BEFORE the real Christ Temple arrives, and it is SPIRITUAL and UNIVERSAL. Earth is just to fully become, the open Courtyard, “clicking” into the Universal Temple of Christ.

Believe it, God cannot be contained in a stone temple, nor this planet, nor the Milky Way, the Christ Temple is BEYOND THE SCALE of the Universe! THINK BIG!

But Earth is to be a complete “courtyard” in it, a celestial garden so to speak, the target one that humans need to focus on, but this Temple is multi-dimensional, and HUGE, IMMORTAL, “big as God Almighty”.

Forget the DECOY, the real thing will envelope the entire Milky Way and Earth, like a pearl in your hand. You WILL KNOW the REAL “THING”, when it comes, so to speak. “IMAX” or anything else they use, will look like chicken scratch graffiti in the alley, when compared to God and Christ IN the Temple REALITY.

WAIT, for the REAL THING! you WILL KNOW FOR SURE, WHEN THE REAL THING “ARRIVES”. Do NOT but the fake, even of Satan comes in an array of demons, even they will pale in comparison to the reality of the Temple of God Almighty, like moths at a bug lite, because that is what they are compared to God Almighty and the God’s Christ.

Burnt out moths.

[quote=’HongKongHoward’ pid=’40496′ dateline=’1450616415′]
Damn dude, those posts were something. I to believe in God in a very “vanilla” way.

But I just want to raise a point that you might want to consider. What if God never comes down on a cloud or a lightning bolt to throw the NWO into a volcano? [/quote]

Actually, once you check their checkmate of the mind, all the energy put forth to make men believe there is no God, or to hi-jack God by a “GMO God” from the religion shelf, just affirms: THERE IS GOD. LOL

And ALL the trickery, deceptions and coercions, to try to force men to accept their way of ruling, no matter old order, or new order. PROVES even as imperfect as man is, THEY DO NOT WANT TO NATURALLY GO UNDER ANY TYRANNY, MUCH LESS GLOBAL TYRANNY. LOL!

All the effort, to have to cajole and coerce, and produce the “back drop” Global Truman Show for EVERYONE, is how we know they are indeed hiding a basic truth. A BIG TRUTH, because all these curtains, smoke machines and many mirrors, are because the basic truth is BIG.

Of course we are born into this “True Man Show”, if you ever saw that movie. It is not until later, we start to unravel the nature of the play. They wrote the entire script for mankind! Every “it is like this”, turns out to be a diversion. But if we ate the bait, and it set its hook, then we just go in one of the channels of the overall LIE. That is what schools are for.

So, they got another thing coming. But like bowling, God does not throw his ball down the lane, when the machine is still setting up the pins. In fact the “old world order” “spare”, has yet to complete, before they can “rack” the global national “pins” in total world government.

AFTER the NWO National Pin Racking Machine lifts its arm, all set and racked and ready to go, THEN God’s BOWLING BALL, will come on down the Universal Alley. (Dan2:31-45)

Just a matter of time.

If He didn’t arrive, then it would be Genesis 6, Phase 2.0. Man totally enslaved by demon Overlords, who like this theme park in the Earth property.

BUT, He will arrive. That si what ALL THE HOOPLA CIRCUS is ALL ABOUT, to make us doubt.

Check their check, and do not doubt. And YOU WIN, even now. THEY are GOING DOWN HARD, but not until they ahve stood up their pins fully. They gotta gitterdone first. THAT is all we await. “Armagitterdone”.

[quote=’HongKongHoward’ pid=’40496′ dateline=’1450616415′]As far as I am aware, in all of the Abrahamic holy books, whenever God acted it was always through a person, or an animal or a force of nature. Nobody since Adam and Eve have ever seen God “in the flesh”.

I think it is reasonable to entertain that perhaps Jesus was sent to earth as a kind of “save yourself template”. Sometimes (a lot of the time) I see excitable Christians feverishly saying things like “Jesus Christ is the only salvation” or “Christ is the true path to the Lord” or “Only in Jesus will you be saved” or “Accept Christ or face eternal damnation”. When I was small, this zealotry scared me a little bit because I always pictured God as very incorporeal, more of an ideal than a “person”. Soon I thought I understood where these people were coming from: “God is an idea, Jesus Christ became the very embodiment of that idea, and so ‘became’ God in a way”.

I’m not sure if many Christians understand the meaning behind those phrases. Taken symbolically it is a call for humanity to take the values Christ valued and structure our hearts in a similar way. Jesus was an ideological beam of light in a foggy era of darkness.

What Jesus did was stop playing the game. That is what needs to be done today I think.[/quote]

Yes it is a valid understanding, if he shows the pattern, then we have to become that pattern’s intended REALITY, because he was a perfect human being, and a perfect immortal now. I believe that, he applies to EVERYTHING, human and beyond. He did not become human, for no good and everlasting reason. For humans to also become him.

Of course he will see through the veneers, we need to actually do it, by obeying God. THAT is the twist to the simplicity of the valid offer. But, it can be done, he did not do this mission, for no good reason.

 

The threats, are more religions wanting to control people by fear. The real Christ, is not a Con Man for the churches. True, he states the reality of Satan’s quest to destroy all mankind, he does not threaten with things like “excruciating torture for septillions upon octillions of millenniums”. Dead, is good enough with Christ. BUT why be dead, when we can chose to simply OBEY GOD???

So Christ concentrates on the POSITIVE, “know the truth and be set free”, “obey God and do His will and live forever”. Al the other stuff IS RELIGIONS keeping scared Cows in the Milking Rows. It is ALL Religious LIES, to keep the money coming in, they could CARE LESS, about any “souls”. We may have been “born yesterday” yesterday, but that is over: RELIGIONS ARE A LIE TO GET MONEY AND CONTROL OF PEOPLE! For POLITICAL PURPOSES!

Plain and simple. ALL OF THEM, no need to sort dead rats by color. “faith” in Religion and faith in God are not the same thing, as they want people to think. Every religion has a bunch of FREELOADING Fat CATS at the top, just like Washington DC, especially the big corporate ones. They are two sides of the same “old world order” coin.

And by just rejecting ALL of them, we get out of the religious ant fight farm, with on bold move. See ya! LOL, Don’t want to buy the mind control any longer! Ba-Bye!

GOD is all we need! LOL

[quote=’HongKongHoward’ pid=’40496′ dateline=’1450616415′]As for the religion thing I think it was a good way to keep the true values from being lost over the centuries while simultaneously protecting humanity from the dangerous sort of unity being discussed here.

Although I do think each of the religions must come to terms with each other and base their relationship on the core similarities between all of them. They do not have to merge or dissipate as long as everybody remembers the real values and remains mature (something that our ancestors never managed).

It might be up to us to each be Jesus in our own right, God might not save us with fire and brimstone.
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To me, God is the salvation. Christ as well, the “visual” of the offer, that some have put faith in. No “religion” required, and that is why they have INSERTED THEMSELVES, TO PROFIT AS corporate bodies from that DECOY they are, as if required, “middle man”; they are playing Christ. (THAT is NOT a good scam to be involved in right now. NOT GOOD, in fact DANGEROUS!)

But you are correct I agree, God’s purpose is also used by religion, to transmit the main documents, and at times actually they have even tried to obey God as the absolute goal. But in time, it loses focus, they all do. But there are people all over the place, truly concerned with OBEYING GOD, rather than men.

And that is why men, MUST play the “God” role, to command that obedience to the wrong purpose. But it has served a learning purpose overall, in a number of ways.

[quote=’HongKongHoward’ pid=’40496′ dateline=’1450616415′]
Although I do think each of the religions must come to terms with each other and base their relationship on the core similarities between all of them. They do not have to merge or dissipate as long as everybody remembers the real values and remains mature (something that our ancestors never managed).
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Yes, before world religions go down as outlawed by Satanic World Government, for the “Obligatory Oneness Miracle”, they must be “united” in the wildbeast system, everyone must “make friends” “out of the blue”. THAT is to aid the “final sale” of World Government, before it unleashes all hell on earth, on religions.

They will be made to play that “we all love each other now!” ploy. “We must all tolerate each other now!” “all of a sudden we just LOVE EACH OTHER TO DEATH!!” “all of a sudden we ALL saw the light!” “World Peace Everyone! All is Good with the Universe!” “celebrate World Government! Happy Days are Here Again”!!! It is that Golden Age Utopia of ALL MANKIND everyone!! Come one, come all, get yer 666 NOW!, and if you complain, DIE NOW! (Rev13:15-18) “If you say it is all a ruse, you are a hateful intolerant!”

Bad news first:

But those final duped ones, will all be super-hyped, by a doomsday that did NOT come (Rev13:3), to lead what is left of their dwindling masses (Rev16:12), to that FINAL “demon world government” abomination, before the Satanic Fury of World Government’s final stage, is TRULY unleashed on that system (globally), which is in agreement with God’s judgment of a system, that has used Him, to run their overall warmongering Con of justified hatred and murder as corporate collectives of Global War Spiritual Tribalism, for centuries.

We just need to understand honestly, at this point in history, “religion” is NOT on God’s “to save” list, it is on his black list, it is on the NWO black list, it is on the old world order black list, and it is on Satan’s black list. It could not have devolved into a worse “rock and a hard place” spot, that is the honest truth, of the ACT corporate religions have become.

They could pull of their scam off for thousands of years, criticize them, get burned at the stake, beheaded, etc, same old Dark Ages Crew is still there, just held back by secular law. But in time, they have been exposed BEFORE their final folly culminates.

 

Good News:

BUT, many who experience the global outlawing of religion, by the downing of that “great city”, will be freed up for the salvation. In fact they cannot think for themselves, in some of these trapped ones, UNTIL it goes down! And God will help get through to them, by super human means:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

THAT valid offer will be extended to all mankind, by angels. Our ATTITUDE will be important. We need to be merciful and have the faith that ANYONE can then respond. Because at that point in this human development, that is ALL that will be left. GOD

Now true, World Government will also be active, (Rev14:9-11).

The point is of the TWO choices:

1. World Government

2. God’s Kingdom

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ANYONE can choose God’s Kingdom as their Universal Government. And by that time, only angels of God will have the power to complete that Global Offer, because religion and human religious, even relative freedom, will be wiped out, and no one will be “preaching God’s Kingdom” any longer. (Rev11:7-10)

So, God completes it by Christ and a whole boatload of billions of holy angels.

It has been known for some time, the human effort would fail, as far as absolute total global reach:

(Matthew 10:23) When they persecute you in one city, flee to another; for truly I say to you, you will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel UNTIL the Son of man arrives.

Well by Revelation 14:1-7 time, NO ONE is going to stop the angels of God. And they WILL be required in such “EVERLASTING GOOD NEWS” capacity and final mission.

LOGICALLY, Jesus Christ, El Numero Uno under God, completes the very ministry he began. IN PERSON, but as one Immortal Mighty God, “person”, with his whole crew of holy angels, and we are talking hundreds of billions, no joke.

Not only will GOD show up, AND Christ, the whole family of holy angels will ALSO be showing up. And there are some very powerful angels, all of them are powerful compared to humans, but of course, some of them are extremely powerful even among the angels. Satan aint no “number two” angel, that is all his fictional hype. MANY angels of Christ can “man handle” Satan and the demons, MANY of them, they have also been “upgraded” and are more powerful for this salvation, then they were when Christ first arrived into Earth.

When they arrive, the Universe will Light Up, you will have no doubt. But Satan is probably capable of a pretty stunning “arrival”, first. But his arrival, PLAYING Christ, the fake, the decoy, will be nothing compared to the real thing.

but WAIT, for the real thing, it will be worth the wait, and they are NEVER “leaving”. This charade is coming to an end.

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[quote=’Lisa’ pid=’41049′ dateline=’1450928362′]
I was talking about the Jewish temple plans that they have not a masonic temple. The Jewish temple that will be rebuilt so the Jews can sacrifice to God again. The Jewish temple where the antichrist will proclaim himself god. Part of Biblical prophecy. And important because when he proclaims himself god it’s the middle of the tribulation.

Anyway, it’s Jesus who said that He didn’t come to bring peace but a sword. A man’s enemies will be members of his own household. We are also told not to be bound together with unbelievers. Doesn’t sound like God is telling us to unite and not be divided. We are also told to contend earnestly for the faith. True faith in Jesus is worth fighting for.

The one trying to unite everyone no matter what IS satan because when you unite over anything you lose the truth and it’s the truth of the gospel that has the power to save.

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That is what I meant by spiritual unity not seen by eyes. Not that ploy you are already suspect of.

But, as bad as the news is, you might as well know: The whole Jewish system will unite with that Masonic temple, they are now “one”.

Look for the spiritual temple, the physical one is a ruse, Christ the sacrifice is done, no need for more Jewish Mosaic Law extensions.

It can be tough to understand how gone Israel really is, as far as any of those post Hadrian Roman props are concerned. God sees His “Israel”, they to are invisible. Jerusalem is a prop, and has been a prop, since after it was demolished 100% in 70 CE.

Jerusalem is Gone, that there today is “NWO Disneyland”, no more spiritual power than a theme park, all just a prop.

The Masonic and the “Jewish” will merge into World Government props. They were done, long ago. Individuals from “Israel” are God’s business to assess and save, not part of a play to sell World Government, you will not see those things, but God will save what is his own, but not to endorse some world government fantasy.

Most Jews today, are very likely part of the post Roman “invasion of the body snatchers”, all not even from real “Israel”, all an infiltration, all a prop “nation”, all fake, as they try to wipe out the real Jews, who only Go can see, in the process.

Satan is quite capable of being on this since 70 CE, and he knows how to fool people, he knows how to engineer an entire proxy of props, to look real, but be actors, props, and one big global prop city at “Jerusalem”. The real Jerusalem, is GONE, it was wiped off the Earth in 70 CE.

I know that is not popular by those who have been led into the “plot” of this play. But what real truth, is ever pretty? And that is how big Satan is, and how big his deception is. It is ALL NWO now. The Jews as a nation, made their own bed in 29-33 CE.

Romans 11, is about the 1000 Year Reign:

(Romans 11:15-16) 15 For if the casting of them away means reconciliation for the world, what will the receiving of them mean but life from the dead? 16 Further, if the [part taken as] firstfruits is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are also.

Israel is “received” under Christ in the 1000 Year Reign. They are done as far as this phase. THAT is what it means to reject Christ, in person.

They come back in the resurrection, and changes will be required, no more Jewish Fantasies, they seem to never learn what it means to have had Jerusalem demolished from off the face of the earth. God is DONE WITH THEM, until AFTER His Christ arrives.

Let them go, as a nation. Individuals have been coming to Christ for years. Individual Jews must accept Christ for that benefit. The nation has, and will continue to reject the real Christ. Any “Christ” they do accept, come world government time, is Satan “Christ”, the Christ of Israel has been Satan since the Pharisees made that very deal.

This is no joke, time to face the bitter truth of it all: Israel is DONE (as a nation), for this phase. Any individual Jews God saves, for sake of Christ or Abrahamic Covenants, is GOD’S CALL. And he is not going to make it a media event to sell 666 World Government, you won’t even know, unless you are one of those Jews slated for final salvation, then you will know.

But that is one on one, individuals. The nation broke bread with Satan, between 29 and 33 CE. You don’t make a deal with Satan, sealed by destroying God’s Christ, and then all of a sudden get spared anyways, that is all a fantasy, the same old fantasy that has kept Jews in regression for centuries, as a nation. It is too late, the nation and its elites already chose the Devil to be their King, from way back.

They can’t face reality, and they got many others also in the same state of denial or just not being told the nation of physical Israel is done.

That is why seeing the spiritual, is more important. Israel already has led themselves to misery, and now they will help lead the world to misery, they are bad news. They are miserable as a nation, and as a “religion”, done. I mean you don’t just stab God and Christ in the back, make a deal with the Devil, and think everything is hunky dory.

I am not attacking Israel, it IS what ti IS; everyone knows they are miserable, and many people know why. I just reaffirm why they are in that predicament: they back stabbed God, broke covenant, and railroaded their own divine son—while selling their souls to Satan, in their Jewish Elite tier of the early fist century.

It is what it is, I do not know how many times we have to cover the same old story, but it always comes up because the churches just love that fantasy too. Israel is a TRAGEDY, bar none, of all human nations, and now it is soon time to seal it, and end the story. Sorry, they did it, not me.

But we know exactly why they got the curse (as a nation; individuals can access Christ):

(Matthew 27:24-26) Seeing that it did no good but, rather, an uproar was arising, Pilate took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying: “I am innocent of the blood of this [man]. you yourselves must see to it.” 25 At that all the people said in answer: “His blood come upon us and upon our children.” 26 Then he released Barabbas to them, but he had Jesus whipped and handed him over to be impaled.

Thus the events that led to Christ’s death, are serious and as Satanic as they were divine. There is blood-guilt, and their is blood atonement, depending on how we receive Christ’s blood. Two edged sword.

Its a touchy subject, because it is DEAD SERIOUS BUSINESS with God.

But as far as Israel, you will have to make your own call, but they will be danced over for the big world government festivities, I can tell you that much now.
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[QUOTE who=”abrothergoin”]<quoted text>It is sad what they did to us native americans
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And now the Non_Native Americans are the target. They will not just stop with the Americans.

But this thread is good for those sentiments:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T3APRSE69L1JSH7IR

So just as Satan invaded, God also has given indications of this arrival, to many people’s, because the bigger purpose of Babylon the Great going down, under World Government, is freeing some of the last of God’s “my people”.

(PDF) Babylon_the_Great_Deposed_Under_World_Government_-_Proof_in_Prophecy_and_Globalization_Logic
https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/babylon_the_great_deposed_under_world_government_-_proof_in_prophecy_and_globalization_logic_draft-version1-htm.pdf

One of the big “morals of the story”, is BTG goes down to free up many people, it is not all “doom and gloom”, when Babylon of old went down, more than just the Jews were freed.

God set up that principle for the BTG downfall as well. But it does not come next, Bethel falls first, they are using it for a smokescreen at this time. Bethel falling will free JWs, in a related, but preparatory, principle.

Big salvation comes with the BTG final fall:

(Revelation 14:6-8) . . .And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

And that above, had to be transpiring while the events will then lead to this announcement:

8 And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

There is more to that prophecy story, which Bethel has now hi-jacked, to help conceal the meaning of their own judgment, and that first. (1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14; Dan11:41)
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[QUOTE who=”Aneirin”]
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Since when was “Chase Bank” a volunteer at the Watchtower Society?[/QUOTE]

Don’t play naive. Since when does Bethel keep its 20 billion under the mattress?

They keep it with Chase and Goldman.

Think we were reborn yesterday? LOL

Bethell’s goin’ down HARD. You can kiss the loot bye-bye. (Eze7:22)

(Ezekiel 7:22) . . .“‘And I shall have to turn away my face from them, and they will actually profane my concealed place, and into it robbers will really come and profane it.

Christ ALWAYS HITS the “cave of robbers” IN his Father’s Temple, FIRST.

You Bethel Boys and Damage Control Artists better head for the hills now. It is more than a whip and a smack that Christ has in store for the Grabbing Body, I can tell you that. (Dan8:13-14; Zech3:1-5; Hos1:4-7; Isa31:8-9)

In time >some< of the thieves will high tail it, but they aint goin’ no where. Others will meet the Lord, in a bad way. The GB Cave of Robbers Kings aint gonna make it. (Isa66:6; Matt22:1-14)
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Looks like the GB is not satisfied overrunning and controlling the entire Bethell so-called “theocrtaic organization”, down to the little girls hiding in the closet, up to the top of the Bethell WTBTS 30 billion dollar Empire of Modern Darkness.

Nope.

They also have to monopolize the responsibility of ALL CHRISTIANS, regardless of the “file” they may think they are in, to teach and be “lights of the world” to ALL MEN. ALL CHRISTIANS ARE TO TEACH ALL MEN, that is the principle. Not just a pack of CEO Wolves up at Comfy Bethell.

The GB now has greedily grabbed the entirety of what was once open Christianity as Jehovah’s witnesses have tried to elucidate in their “other sheep” principle, INDIVIDUAL Christians, of global inclusion, as the earthling sheep must go global in the end.

And the non-anointed Gentile Bethell, must soon be toppled, as part of that widenign process by God. (Dan8:13-14; Dan11:41)

Now the GB has completed this part of the Korah Golden Calf “lifting themselves over everyone” SIGN, to recent stellar proportions.

In effect, the GB ALONE, yes, those seven clowns you now “see”, have lifted THEMSELVES ALONE, IN ONE “MAN” “BODY”, over every human of earth, over every secular authority, over every Christian—past, present and future, and even replacing Christ as the “golden middle man” GB-for-JWs, and especially God, as the GB are now the object of JW worship, along with their Baal Bethel WTBTS “Organ-ization” Global Man-Made Citadel.

THIS IS >NOT< A GOOD SIGN.

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Let us be discerning here at this basic “disgusting thing” Neo-Roman Cabal, in modern easy to “catch sight of” form AT BETHELL. (Matt24:15) They also proudly flap their “Neo-Roman”, Modern “King-North” UN NGO ensigns in the temple.
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LET US OPEN, OUR EYES, WIDE OPEN TO SEE WHAT THE GB IS HEAD OF. (2Thess2:1-4; Matt24:15)

Thus only expect more apostasy, more rebellion, and more lawless “smooth word” hi-jinks (Dan11:32a) from that LAWLESS and foretold final apostate and impostor cabal as exemplified in the “Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses”.

All the global reproach, you now see besmirching all JW and Christian repute (Zech3:1-3), is “governed” by them. (Dan8:12) They are done in blasphemy, they have reached the pinnacle of self idolization, they have reached the Zenith of GB Core Sin.

But they are not done destroying the Jehovah’s witnesses reputation and global ministry—that is yet to come. (Dan11:41; Dan8:11)

Expect more unsound teachings from the modern JW Pharisees of the GB. But also expect God to act directly upon that idol (Dan8:13-14; Zech3:1-5; Rev8:3-5; Mal3:1-5), NOW “standing in a holy place”, illegally, and in full stellar blasphemy against God.

Expect more insanity and weird “red flags” from Bethel, more anomalies and contradictions, before they go. MUCH more.

Because God is using them, to tell JWs by these “scarlet flags”, to FLEE NOW.

Get OUT of the JW Org now, while you can.

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Bethel’s Armageddon Hoax Basics
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/bethels-armageddon-hoax-basics/

Bethel Versus Caesar—Wonder Who Will Win?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/bethel-versus-rc-caesar-wonder-who-will-win/

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JWs – FLEE The JW Org!! – Matthew24:15
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/jws-flee-the-jw-org-matthew2415/

The “Event” JW Bethel is Planning For
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/the-event-jw-bethel-is-planning-for/

How to Set-Up JWs Like 8th King Sitting Ducks
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/how-to-set-up-jws-like-8th-king-sitting-ducks/

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America.

The 7th King “dumb giant” portion of the Anglo-American nation-state base of global takeover to install 8th King World Government.

America must fall as the 7th King portion, with the UK and EU national economic collapse. (Dan11:42-43)

America is to be “equalized”, with Russia and China (and everyone else; Rev17:8-18), so all the “united nations” can be “gathered” (Rev16:13-16) to participate as one 8th King whole, in World Government.

The 8th King “rises” with the 7th King fall. (Rev17:8-13; Rev11:7)

It is very simple, Kings 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8. We are at 7 now.

You can do the math on this.

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US King South Lead Financial System Must Collapse into 8th King Control
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/king-south-lead-financial-system-must-collapse/

Daniel 11:42-43 Explicit in Coming 8th King Globalized Wealth Control
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-1142-43-explicit-in-coming-8th-king-globalized-wealth-control/

7th King Downfall – Isaiah’s and Ezekiel’s Prophecy – “Egypt” Pronouncements as Modern Nation-State System Parallels in the Final Tribulation Cycle
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/7th-king-downfall-isaiahs-and-ezekiels-prophecy-egypt-pronouncements-as-modern-nation-state-system-parallels-in-the-final-tribulation-cycle/

8th King World Peace—Guaranteed
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/05/21/8th-king-world-peace-guaranteed/

8th King World Government Rise with 7th King Nation State Fall
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/world-government/8th-king-world-government-rise-with-7th-king-nation-state-fall/

King 8 Versus King 7—The New World Order to Capture the Old World Order
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/king-8-versus-king-7-the-new-world-order-to-capture-the-old-world-order/

8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/8-kings-why-the-7th-king-anglo-american-national-system-must-fall/

The End of National Sovereignty, Not The End of the World
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/the-end-of-national-sovereignty-not-the-end-of-the-world/

US/EU 7th King/King South Required Downfall
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/12/14/useu-7th-kingking-south-required-downfall/

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[QUOTE who=”array”]<quoted text>do you mean JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs?
well that is interesting if true, they make heaps out of carbon tax [/QUOTE]

Yes, it is wired into the Anglo-American top banker engines, for each side of the Atlantic, which forms a global central banking network.

Jehovah’s Witnesses Exposed! Jordan Maxwell and Santos Bonacci
The WTBTS+Chase Bank Files
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7dRS0Zra18

Once you connect that, one can research the Chase Goldman Connection, but there is probably public wires available to the WTBTS Europe.

Remember, in reality, the WTBTS is a 30 BILLION dollar empire. Those assets are in cash, real estate and equities.

Those things are all managed like anyone elses, by globalist lawyers, bankers and investment bankers.

But by Dodd Frank, Glass-Steagall repeal, in effect, all banks are now investment proxies:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodd%E2%80%93Frank_Wall_Street_Reform_and_Consumer_Protection_Act

Thus the banking changes made after the 1929 crash, are now reversed for the final cycle.

In effect the Federal Reserve (through Cede & Co. Umbrella) owns the entire US dollar based totality, as debt and assets—NYSE, WallStreet, NYMEX, all mortgages, all insurance, all health care, FDIC, EVERYTHING!

So, they ultimately own the WTBTS. Chase and Goldman are just the tubes into the WTBTS body.

Federal Reserve; Depository Trust Clearing Corporation; Cede & Co. explained by Greg Morse Pt 1 and 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwdUFLBWURc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPazhuMUYtE

It is a Banker Takeover:

When Central Banks Rule the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn2eBcpdsDo

Catherine Austin Fitts at the Secret Space Program—Parallel Global Finance System, Global Black Budget—How They Use US Mortgages and Financial Institutions to Fund Their Own Expansion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bolDChliALg

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THAT is all where the JW billions have gone, and are going. JWs won’t find out until it is way way TOO LATE. It already is too late.

This is all real. WTBTS is being taken over, that is what will be attempted in the NEAR FUTURE.
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[QUOTE who=”TJWandDiva25″]Clearly not. Disgusting thing= encamped armies. Should have used discernment![/QUOTE]

The armies are there. They are first, legal armies to lay siege to Bethel, soon.

It will be Daniel 11:41, as the Daniel 8:13 trampling will come.

The prophecy of modern times that Jesus was referencing for modern awareness is this apostasy, enabling infiltration, from with Bethel:

(Daniel 11:31) . . .And there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature].. . .

And that led to the 1990 3rd United Nations global presentation:

(Daniel 11:31) . . .And they will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation.

The backers of the UN, are of course who places the “disgusting thing” in 1990. But this is “they” will certainly place it, so the nations, and Bethel’s UN NGO is all part of that now Bethel concealed 3rd UN event.

Thus Jehovah’s witnesses [[used to]] expose the UN as continuum:

UN 1. 1919 – Rev13:11-15 (Dan12:11 first fulfillment) as League of Nations after WW1;

A. International Bible Students Association (IBSA) explained as prophecy;

UN 2. 1945 – Rev17:8-11 as United Nations after WW2;

A. Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW) explained as prophecy;

But at UN 3, which continues to UN 4 as World Government in the future, JWs were subverted (Dan8:12_ to “throw that truth to the earth”, by lead of the Governing Body UN NGO Priests of modern Rome/King North, which “King North” is also concealed as the 8th King and “two horned wildbeast” World Government developers:

UN 3. 1990 – Daniel 11:31b as United Nations “New World Order” Initiative after WW3 (Cold War) (Dan11:29);

A. Covered up by Bethel as UN NGO, not explained as prophecy by any religious group;

[We are Here…]

UN 4. Future – Daniel 11:45; Daniel 8:25; (Daniel 12:11 last fulfillment) as United Nations and World Government after 4th world tribulation/war cycle to come.

A. Not currently explained by Bethel in lieu of a premature “end of the world” deception. (2Thess2:1-2)

B. To be explained after the JW temple judgment desolation, purification and removal of lawless Bethel engineered subversion (2Thess2:1-4; Dan11:30-31; Dan8:11-13);

Now what they want to do, is crash JWs so they never do make that full UN1-2-3-4 connection, as World Government is a “big secret” to the world, and to JWs, who aid the subterfuge, by ignoring that 1990 3rd UN event.

Although the “invasion of Bethel” is that Daniel 11:41 event now set up at Bethel [1], as part of their “JW Self Fulfilling Prophecy” of a premature “the end” (2Thess2:1-2), they are now selling it to JWs as if “Daniel 11:44 attack is now upon us! It is the end brothers! Please go where we tell you to go now!”

But that will be too far into Daniel 11.

[1]

Bethel Versus Caesar—Wonder Who Will Win?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/bethel-versus-rc-caesar-wonder-who-will-win/

[2]

Russia Framed as King North—The Purpose
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/russia-framed-as-king-north-the-true-purpose/

Next King North Hoax, Now “Gog” Primed For JWs
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/world-government/next-king-north-hoax-now-gog-primed-for-jws/

This whole JW HOAX, is based on that 1990 bypass of Globalist System UN Engineering “King North” reality [3], to instead support the Bethel “it must be the end brothers!” deluded smokescreen [3], to conceal the true meaning of the end of the Bethel UN allied apostasy.

[3]

KING NORTH GLOBALIZATION TO WORLD GOVERNMENT
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/king-north-globalizationworld-government/

[4]

Bethel’s Main Delusion: The End is Near, Jehovah’s Day is Here! – is a Signal of The Final Apostasy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/bethels-main-delusion-the-end-is-near-jehovahs-day-is-here-is-a-signal-of-the-final-apostasy/

Soon, God will let Bethel pull their hoax off, and “trample” the JW Org. But amidst the smoke and mirrors (Dan8:14 midpoint=3.19 years), Bethel’s internal enemy system will meet things that “go bump in the night”.

The angels of God, cleansing the temple, in covert manner.

(Isaiah 66:6) . . .There is a sound of uproar out of the city, a sound out of the temple! It is the sound of Jehovah repaying what is deserved to his enemies.

Christ ALWAYS visits his Father’s “temple” first, and the “cave of robbers” is who gets whipped first. Same old story.

These events lead to JW recovery, and the final world government defiance, and the warning of its ramifications.

8th King World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Because Bethel will not divulge that SIMPLE SUMMARY, they are removed first in the process. (1Pet4:17 as Dan8:13-14, timed temple judgment)

Bethel is removed first, because Christendom (BTG as well) goes down under world government (Rev17:15-18), their global scale is too enormous to be concentrated on at this time. Bethel is the perfect place for a prophetic proportions judgment to occur, and that first and soon. (Dan8:13-14; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5; Rev8:3-5)

Babylon_the_Great_Deposed_Under_World_Government_-_Proof_in_Prophecy_and_Globalization_Logic
https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/babylon_the_great_deposed_under_world_government_-_proof_in_prophecy_and_globalization_logic_draft-version1-htm.pdf

It has all been about CONCEALING WORLD GOVERNMENT INEVITABILITY, AS LOG AS POSSIBLE:

 

World Government

8th King/King North World Government as Simple as Possible
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/8th-kingking-north-world-government-as-simple-as-possible/

Temple Judgment to World Government to Christ Arrival
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/temple-judgment-to-world-government-to-christ-arrival-revelation-11-and-daniel-12/

The big news, will come out, AFTER apostate Bethel is silenced.

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[QUOTE who=”sidgi”]<quoted text>
You didn’t claim that God told you that. If you had, I would have examined your claim more closely. But as it is, I believe it came from you, and not God. Otherwise you would have had the courage to speak in His name with your claim.
It seems that you wish others to believe that this added knowledge that you supply comes from Jehovah. However, I do not, because you haven’t said so, and you go beyond His word for your statements. At least you seem smart enough not to transgress in that manner, directly. It matters little, though, because you are still looking at that woman with adultery in your heart.[/QUOTE]

When the forecast comes true, then you will understand over its mileposts to World Government, Christ arrival, and so on.

JWs have already laid out the main pattern.

It merely repeats.

You will have plenty of years to SEE these things right in your own backyard. But not just you, Jehovah’s witnesses must be recovered, to give the final warning.

(Revelation 10:11) . . .And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

There is nothing in this forecast, that you can actually “disprove”. 8th King/King North World Government is the Devil’s goal, and you will see it coming, well before it comes. They must “arrive” before Christ.

Very simple.

The final warning comes forth BEFORE world government completes, when people can take advantage of that final warning, AGAIN. TWO witnessings.

When these things emerge from the rubble of the WTBTS, you will start to catch on. It is subconscious things that blind you at this time.

In time, your eyes will be fully opened. You have as much chance in Christ as anyone, to make the “sheep sweep”, and before then, the final warning witness.

The choice, will be yours, in line with God’s approval.

It IS what it IS.

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[QUOTE who=”TJWandDiva25″]An army is an army. Given the fact it is in a chapter dealing with literal signs such as wars, earthquakes etc etcIt’s a literal army for us too look for given by Jesus himself .
It’s not some ambiguous sign where we have to put numerous private interpretations on multiple scriptures to make it fit. Of course this is possible otherwise the scripture wouldn’t say (let the reader use discernment)
When al is said and done Jehovah will show who is correct.[/QUOTE]

Time to “love the truth”, not “the lie”. (2Thess2:11-12)

The UN NGO is NOT ambiguous. We already “caught sight” of the main “Roman” ensign.

And you do not get true Kingdom covenant Christians, to join such a thing, for ANY reason on Earth. So, Bethel is first apostate defectors:

(Daniel 11:30) [King Globalist North] will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. . .

And THAT is what led to the infiltration “arms that stand up”, “in the temple” first.

And JWs are also an “army”, the one subverted here:

(Daniel 8:12) . . .12 And an army itself was gradually given over (to the enemy system objective)

together with the (UN NGO laced) constant [feature], because of transgression;

And COVER UP is now aided by JWs, as Bethell covers ALL of this up:

12b and it kept throwing truth to the earth, and it acted and had success.

And we KNOW what is the most unique period since WW1, and WW2 were well exposed as UN cycles by JWs:

(Daniel 11:29) . . .“At the time appointed he will go back, and he will actually come against the south; but it will not prove to be at the last the same as at the first.

Yes the Cold War cycle, to also lead to a UNITED NATIONS PRESENTATION IN PROPHECY AT DANIEL 11:31B, is that DIFFERENT and UNIQUE “last”, way different than the WW1 and WW2 “first” cycles, because the COLD WW3, was in deed UNIQUE.

Thus we KNOW what Daniel 11:30-32, is post 1990, post Cold War, UN collusion events of UN NGO, AT BETHELL!!!

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

Those PARALLELS, are the key. Cold War resolves for a THIRD UN prophecy event, Bethel goes UN NGO, says not a word ever since: SOLD OUT TO THE WILDBEAST, ALL PARALLEL, ALL AT THE SAME TIME!:

Daniel 8 and 11 Final Apostasy and 3rd UN Placement (1990) Connections and Parallels
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-8-and-11-final-apostasy-and-3rd-un-placement-1990-connections-and-parallels/

Think that is all “coincidence” the “GB have to be good guys”. Well, they are the DEVIL INSIDE BETHELL:

Connecting Bethel Lawlessness to Final Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/connecting-bethel-lawlessness-to-final-prophecy/

Bethel Apostasy Foretold in Daniel 8 and 11
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/bethel-apostasy-foretold-in-daniel-8-and-11/

And waving around the UN NGO Flag Ensign, is what the “Disgusting Thing” evil and illegal priests do. It IS what they ARE.

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[QUOTE who=”A bit of advice”]Define an army.. It could be soldier it also could mean intelligence army….
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Exactly. Obviously corporate infiltration is how the national governments have been lost. What do people think, the CIA and FBI are fictional? And if they are real, WHAT DO THEY DO ALL DAY? What are they paid to do?

SPY

It IS, what they DO! LOL

Intelligence is spying, and it is what they do, it is their function, it is THEIR JOB!

And Bethell is subject to infiltration. It was guarded by naive JW babies, and is rolling in billions of UNGUARDED dollars to take.

We can do the math.

(Ezekiel 7:22) . . .“‘And I shall have to turn away my face from them, and they will actually profane my concealed place, and into it robbers will really come and profane it.

It is this SIMPLE:

(Daniel 11:30-31) “And he (8th King/King North) will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively (produces a successful operation Dan8:12b); and he (8th King) will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. (anointed core defection at Bethel aids internal 8th King access)

31 (Bethel subversion:) And there will be arms that will stand up (at Bethel; Dan11:41; Luke21:20), proceeding from him (8th King planners); and they (collusion) will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature]. (3rd UN placement 1990:) “And they (team effort) will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation. (3rd UN placement, 1990; UN NGO, 1991, at Bethel; Matt24:15; Dan8:13 “transgression causing desolation”);

PARALLEL:

(Daniel 8:11-12) And all the way to the Prince of the army it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place (Bethel JW worldwide organization) of his sanctuary was thrown down.

12 And an (JW worldwide) army itself was gradually given over (to 8th King infiltrative control), together with the constant [feature] (imbibed with disinformation), because of transgression; (UN NGO and other sins permits allowance of the compromise by removed divine blessing and discernment while fulfillment of prophecy is effected for greater future purpose);

12b and it kept throwing truth to the earth (cover up, disinformation), and it acted and had success. (Dan11:30 “act effectively” parallel completely successful unlike anything World War 2 produced in ultimate failure when compared to this 8th King engineered intelligence and subversion operation deployed through the Governing Body and installed Bethel agents);

The Solution to Modern Apostasy:: Judgment

Temple Indictment as UN NGO “Transgression” Related (Matt24:15);

(Daniel 8:13) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the (profaned and subverted) constant [feature] (of JW ministerial offerings) and of the transgression causing desolation (UN NGO alliance and co-promotions fulfilling Daniel 11:31b), to make both [the] holy place (temple “established place”; Dan8:11) and [the] (JW worldwide) army things to trample on?” (in a first 8th King “trampling” “attack” aided temple desolation “fire” of Zechariah 3:2 and Revelation 8:3-5 starting the final prophetic cycle);

(Daniel 8:14) So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.” (Temple purification completed in this time period parallel Zechariah 3:4-5, Revelation 8:1-5; 3.19 YEARS MIN, 6.38 YEAR PROBABLE);

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Now with Bethel, it takes no Daniel or Sherlock Holmes to see it has BIG PROBLEMS. BIG LAWLESS PROBLEMS. PROBLEMS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE.

(2 Timothy 3:13) But wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled.

It really is a NO BRAINER. The GB is on Apostasy Radar, and the Stink Seeking Missile Lock of God now.

It is not hard to wonder about these things. To lay in bed, and wonder “what is REALLY going on up at Bethel”? Then, we drift back to 1990 and that covert to overt UN NGO. WOW, they adjoin the wildbeast, and JWs think it is all hunky dory, no biggie, GB says its OK. So, it is OK.

Well it is a United Nations System; UN Secretariat division; YES, it is a BIG DEAL. A deal with the Devil. (Isa28)

(Isaiah 28:15) We have concluded a covenant with Death…

How UN NGO Bethel Joined the “UN System” under the “UN Secretariat” Principal UN Organ
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/un-jw-infiltration-notes/how-un-ngo-bethel-joined-the-un-system-under-the-un-secretariat-principal-un-organ/

JW UN NGO Prophecy, Information and Details
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/the-jw-un-ngo-transgression-causing-desolation-connection-to-the-disgusting-thing-causing-desolation/

JW UN NGO – Tip of the Iceberg of Bethel Subversion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/flee/jw-un-ngo-tip-of-the-iceberg-of-bethel-subversion/

And if we wonder, who in their right mind arranged that? We then drift back to 1976, and the Governing Body Bethel takeover fiasco. Because the GB Geniuses is who master minded the UN NGO wildbeast saddle for all JWs to ride in. All roads to ruin, in the Global JW Debacle, lead to the GB.

ALL OF THEM.

And if we peak back in JW publication right from Beth Hell, we arrive at?

1944: First Peep of the “governing body” term itself:

The Governing Body Experiment—1944 to Present
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/the-governing-body-experiment-1944-to-present/

1944 Governing Body Birthday—1914-1976 WTBTS Board of Directors Coup Finally Realized
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/1944-governing-body-birthday-19144-1976-wtbts-board-of-directors-coup-finally-realized/
1944, to 1976, to UN NGO 1990, to today’s Bethel HELL of APOSTASY, to JUDGMENT COMING, is ALL CONNECTED!

That is how “JWs “were GRADUALLY GIVEN OVER” to UN objectives, as per Daniel 8:12. EASY to se, this was slow, setady and progressive: GRADUALLY GIVE OVER.

(Daniel 8:12) an army itself was gradually given over…

(Daniel 11:31) they will actually profane the sanctuary…

And a 6th grader could lay this out in a “show and tell” presentation in 5 minutes. It is ALL traceable in Bethel’s own record:

1944: The Governing Body, UN Allied Apostate Leaders of the “Theocracy” of the Implied “Wrong Condition” of Daniel 8:14
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/how-daniel-812-14-unright-condition-has-been-developed-by-the-profane-governing-body-since-1944/

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

And no surprise God has known about them, from before their fathers’ fathers’ fathers’ fathers’ were born, and nails it all in little words, in a few Daniel explicit prophecies, and in general in Zechariah 3:1-5. (2Thess2:1-4)

Modern Man of Lawlessness Exposed Strengthens Faith
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/modern-man-of-lawlessness-exposed-strengthens-faith/

Connecting Bethel Lawlessness to Final Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/connecting-bethel-lawlessness-to-final-prophecy/

OF COURSE THE APOSTASY IS IN PROPHECY!

OF COURSE UN3, 1990, IS ALSO A PROPHECY!

NOW YOU KNOW WHAT BETHEL REALLY IS: APOSTATE MEN AND IMPOSTORS, WITH UN FOCUS AND COVENANTS.

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[QUOTE who=”I will answer”]<quoted text>
JW’s fundamentally are not wrong. An infiltration does not mean the org is wrong. It just means it has been compromised. It can be repaired, I believe Jehovah will do this. It may be shaky for a little while. One should not conclude that difficulties means Jehovah has thrown in the towel. He may just be refining and making things holy again. Even God’s people get disciplined from time to time.
The thing that all people must be careful of is seeing the discipline of Jehovah and concluding that it time to cheer-lead the demise of his people. Jehovah still loves those he disciplines and we cheer-lead the discipline of Jehovah against those he loves then we may find ourselves soon at the end of punishment of which love has no connection.
[/QUOTE]

I agree, but I cannot always add this below, after ever post that covers the TRUTH that modern Bethel IS IN FORETOLD UN-ALLIED APOSTASY. That is also my job, as Jehovah’s witness. Of course I am going to want ALL of Jehovah’s witnesses to know, accept, and state the final warning summary (Rev10:5-7), we ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED to do. (Rev10:11)

We cannot beat around the bush that WORLD GOVERNMENT 8th King will complete, and that triggers the Christ arrival. Very simple. Thus we need to SAY SO. And that is going to take time, to remove the enemy silencers and sinners INSIDE OF Bethel. (Dan11:32a) They run the “JW Global Switchboard”, and you can bet your life, they will get the God Missile, in time, neutralized, wiped out, gone—what ever it takes to get rid of the Liars and impostors—but, in time (Dan8:13-14), not tomorrow, not overnight.

I HOPE AND PRAY that Jehovah sanctifies his Name, in the very place where it is has been befouled (Zech3:3) [1]

Because it is a siege on Jehovah’s witnesses:

(Zechariah 12:1) . . .The word of Jehovah concerning Israel. . .

(Zechariah 12:2) . . .also against Judah (JWs) he (Israel) will come to be in the siege, [even] against Jerusalem.

“Israel” is the “royal rule of the house of Israel” of Hosea 1:4-7. In that prophecy, God causes “the royal rule of the house of Israel to cease.”

(Hosea1:5) And it must occur in that day that I must break the bow of Israel in the low plain of Jezreel.”

BUT God does NOT give JWs to the full plunder of Bethel (Israel, illegal “royal rule”)

(Hosea1:6b) I shall no more show mercy again to the house of Israel, because I shall positively take them away. 7 But to the house of Judah (repentant anointed and JWs) I shall show mercy, and I will save them by Jehovah their God; but I shall not save them by a bow or by a sword or by war, by horses or by horsemen.” (Isa36-37)

That is why angels inundate the temple judgment prophecies of Daniel 8:13-14,26, Zechariah 3:1-9, Malachi 3:1-5, and Revelation 8:3-5 (Isa6:6-7);

BUT it is NOT “the end”, it is just the Temple Visit and Cleanse of Christ, hence the Revelation 9 “Destroyer” of the apostasy, and that “save them by a bow or by a sword or by war, by horses or by horsemen”.

BECAUSE this will get so bad, in anti-JW intent, God MUST respond in stealth manner, with the angels:

(Zechariah 9:8) . . .And I will encamp as an outpost for my house, so that there will be no one passing through and no one returning; and there will no more pass through them a taskmaster, for now I have seen [it] with my eyes.

(Isaiah 37:36) . . .And the angel of Jehovah proceeded to go forth and strike down a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians. When people rose up early in the morning, why, there all of them were dead carcasses.

(Isaiah 66:6) 6 There is a sound of uproar out of the city, a sound out of the temple! It is the sound of Jehovah repaying what is deserved to his enemies.

That is the full temple cleansing or the “right condition” of Daniel 8:13-14, by means of the “fire of the altar” of Revelation 8:3-5. It BEGINS (1Pet4:17), Revelation 8-11.

The intent is preparing the context and the clarification of the FINAL WARNING, the “second witnessing” of the “TWO witnesses”:

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

Why TWO Witnesses?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/why-two-witnesses

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Advantages to recovering the “established place” (Dan8:11), “fortress” (Dan11:31a) of the Jehovah’s witness ministerial resource base and mundane identity HQ.

1. Self admission, full disclosure, and global apology to all people, and all beaten sheep, coming FROM THE SOURCE of the apostasy, is like a criminal confession. It is more effective than all the evidence in the world, at giving credibility to the judgment, and to its foretold outcome of the “right condition”, fully accounting of ALL JW SINS.

2. Rather than adding one more missile to the 10,000 already flying INTO Bethel, from external critics, manifesting the WHOLE STORY AND FULL DISCLOSURE >FROM BETHEL<, from within, would be far more effective at giving credibility to the Temple Judgment meaning, purpose, and requirement of FULL REPENTANCE.

3. Getting rid of the “Governing Body” and exposing it as a Babel council of control, will be required. There is NO RECOVERING or “reforming” a governing body with the claims of divine sanction it now makes. NO WAY.

4. “Chapter One” of the FINAL WARNING, would then focus on our own judgment, giving greater credibility to the prophecy disclosures to come from those first four trumpets, in the same theme as JWs originally explained upon Christendom’s older apostasy, but now ON BETHEL’S apostasy being GLOBALLY exposed.

OF COURSE, God requires such HONESTY and full rectification of the error, among Jehovah’s own witnesses:

(Ezekiel 36:22-23) “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Not for your sakes am I doing [it], O house of Israel, but for my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have come in.”’ 23 ‘And I shall certainly sanctify my great name, which was being profaned among the nations, which you profaned in the midst of them; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘when I am sanctified AMONG YOU before their eyes.

And that is why I HOPE, this principle occurs in the place it developed:

(Zechariah 4:9) “The very hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house, and his own hands will finish [it].

Now true that is Christ symbol, but anointed Christians in administrative capacity are also the “Zerubbabel” symbol, just as “Joshua” is the priestly symbol:

(Zechariah 3:3) Now as for Joshua, he happened to be clothed in befouled garments and standing before the angel.

But for that to occur, first God has to give Bethel such an opportunity. Then full repentance and absolute total disclosure is required. There could be no more “damage control” saving face of the modern Liars at Bethel:

(Revelation 2:2) 2 ‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars.

There is no easy way out of this, for any of us. It requires TRUTH being told, 100%. And that is why God permitted this apostasy:

(2 Thessalonians 2:11-12) So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.

To find out who loves truth, and who loves the lie.

Now we KNOW Jehovah is the real “stronghold” to return to:

(Zechariah 9:12) “Return to the stronghold, you prisoners of the hope.

But perhaps He will save the base ministry “fortified PLACE” in this process.

(Nahum 2:1) One that does a scattering has come up before your face. LET THERE BE A SAFEGUARDING OF THE FORTIFIED PLACE. Watch [the] way. Strengthen [the] hips. Reinforce power very much.

Let us hope that is what it means.

Now I am Jehovah’s witness since 7 years old. Not “a Jehovah’s witness” as in a religious label, BUT Jehovah’s >witness<, as in what it IS. God’s witness, Christian, proclaiming the “faith of Christ”:

(Revelation 14:12) Here is where it means endurance for the holy ones, those who observe the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.”

So, though Bethel has great sins, I do not use it as an excuse to hate our ministry, nor do I gloss it over—it has stellar level SINS AGAINST GOD HIMSELF AND CHRIST AND CHRISTIANS AND ANOINTED AND ALL MANKIND!!!!!!! And I know they sinned so greatly against so many sheep, some people now HATE Bethel’s GUTS, and that is the intent of the enemy, to STUMBLE people as per Daniel 11:41, and Daniel 11:32-35, and to bring major global REPROACH.

So I do understand why some people want Bethel scrubbed from the face of the Earth by God, and that may happen, it would FIRST require the offer from God, and the truthful repentance, or Bethel will be scrubbed from Earth, the sins there are only eclipsed by the Pharisees. Christendom, is a saint compared to modern UN-Bethel, they are involved with JW and sheep murder. (Matt22:1-14)

(Ezekiel 23:11) “When her sister Oholibah got to see [it], then she exercised her sensual desire more ruinously than she, and her prostitution more than the fornication of her sister.

At least we have determined who the “Little Sister” really is: Beth Hell, that’s who, UN-Holy-Blah. The MODERN apostasy.

Let us not kid ourselves, or minimize the fact SATAN is up at and in Bethel. (Dan11:32a; 2Thess2:9; Zech3:1)

But he is there among some anointed Christians, fully filtered out from any guidance of the ministry. The GB, is as good as Satan and the demons, it is what it is. (2Thess2:1-9)

But my hope is God recovers inside of some fragment of our original Bethel ministry, to finish it where it began, for this 1914 to post 1914 phase. But repentance and total confession to all mankind, is required, for it is the core of the final warning first chapter, first paragraph, “little scroll”. And that Revelation 10 commission will not be given, until it is in the God determined “right condition”, hence Daniel 8:13-14 all can verify as that timing fulfills, in the future.

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Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-1of-4/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 2 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-2-of-4/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 3 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-3-of-4/

Can Bethel Repent? Part 4 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-4-of-4/
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[QUOTE who=”pearl doxsey”]You’re getting warmer.
The man of lawlessness that raises itself above God’s genuine temple (1Cor.3:16; 1Pet.2:5,9; Eph.2:20-22) (2Thess.2:4) is the same identity that tramples it down under him **(Gentile -Rev.11:2)**.
Raised up in the Temple, with the anointed priests under him, HE is the disgusting thing in the Holy Place (God’s Temple). Just keep in mind, that he is **”Gentile”**.
We know that among the anointed, physical nationality does not matter (Acts10:34; Rev.5:9-10; Rom.1:16; John10:16; Gal.3:28).
SPIRITUAL nationality however, matters a great deal to God and Christ (Rev.2:9; 3:9; Rom.2:28-29).
The new covenant sons of Abraham, are the heirs (Gal.3:29). They have become SPIRITUAL Jews (Rom.2:28-29). These belong serving as priests in God’s spiritual Temple. Not so, the Gentiles.
This is why their presence in the Temple… trampling it’s priests and lording it over them, is a disgusting thing to God (2Chron.23:6).
Now recall, that the trampled priests/holy ones, have two foes.
There are the Gentiles, but there are also the unfaithful anointed/wicked steward/false prophet/harlots, who empower the Beast to trample the holy ones. THEY ARE JEWS/PRIESTS, so although unfaithful, they do belong in the Temple service. They are not Gentiles.
Go back and see who makes it possible for the Beast to trample the anointed into subjection (Rev.13:11,14,15,8,7; 19:20).
If you blur things together, you may only see one identity.
With a sharper image, you will see that the rulers, use the Gentiles to do their dirty work against their brothers in Christ. There are leaders, and there is their muscle Beast whom they empower with a facade of spirit (Rev.13:15) (John20:22), giving them the Image of divine authority, which is after all, how it comes to dominate the Holy ones, and throw the sanctuary, and truth, to the ground.
The Beast from the “sea”, is Gentile.
The Beast from the “earth”, is from God’s “homeland/occupied home”, which is spiritual Israel.
The GB is the latter, and the overseers/elders are the Gentiles.
There is both “Iron” (Gentile -Eph.4:17-18; Rev.9:9) and “Clay” (Jew -Isa.64:8) comprising the last power against God’s remnant/Temple. [/QUOTE]

I agree, those are related realities, that will come into play, but Christ gives us the exact clue, to get the ENTIRE Registry:

(Matthew 24:15-16) 15 “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, AS SPOKEN OF THROUGH DANIEL the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.

The “disgusting thing” we will be able to “catch sight of”, AND connect to a Daniel prophecy about the “disgusting thing” “placement”, or “stand”, is in Daniel. Everything you mention will hub into that MODERN “disgusting thing” prophecy. But Daniel’s prophecy MUST be the main reference as Christ explicitly noted FOR A REASON.

But which one? There are a number of “disgusting things” in Daniel.

1. There is the one in related phrasing in Daniel 9:27a:

(Daniel 9:27) And upon the wing of disgusting things there will be the one causing desolation

2. There is Daniel 12:11:

(Daniel 12:11) “And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation, there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

3. And there is the one at Daniel 11:31b:

(Daniel 11:31) And there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature]. “And they will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation.

The one in Daniel 9:27 was the one the apostles would have recognized as connected to Christ’s 69-70 weeks arrival and ministry, it was the Romans. And those “disgusting things” are plural, but they causes the key desolation, and they use desolation for their extended goals, as God ALSO uses their desolation for His purpose.

Daniel 12:11applied in 1919 and will apply when they complete and place World Government deep in the final cycle of the future. Daniel 12:11 applied in the League of Nations placement (1919) and the first ministry proof timing that already explained all these concepts.

But these concepts and world proofs, need to be kept current and up to date (JWs are way out of date, and you know why: gentile impostor driven apostasy among anointed). And that is why the “man of lawlessness” is “set in opposition”, which includes opposing Jehovah’s witnesses progress into the truth of prophecy.

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DANIEL 11:31 IS THE PROPHECY/WORLD/SPIRITUAL EVENTS REGISTRY OF OUR TIMES

And one of those prophecies now being covered up successfully:

(Daniel 8:12) …kept throwing truth to the earth, and it acted and had success.

DANIEL 11:31 Is THE DISGUSTING THING WE NEED TO DISCERN FOR OUR TIMES, with the criteria “as spoken of through Daniel the prophet”  in DANIEL 11:31.

There are two United Nations presentations Jehovah’s witnesses exposed in 1919; League of Nations and 1945;, United Nations, and those exposés were truthful and prophecy. It is UN1-2, up to that time of 1945.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T1186E05N0V21159I#c3

So why did Jehovah’s witnesses NOT expose the 3rd United Nations as a third step to World Government? Why did JWs instead become adjoined as global endorsers of the “new world order” 3rd UN placement mantra as UN NGO? And the answer is in the “disgusting things” you just described, now operating through the deified worldly CORPORATE DEVICE of the WTBTS, known as the “Governing Body”.

THEY ARE WHO JOINED THE UN SYSTEM-UN SECRETARIAT UN-DPI PARTNERSHIPS AS UN NGO, AND WHO CONCEAL THAT THIRD UN AS UN1-2-3 PROPHECY EN ROUTE TO WORLD GOVERNMENT. 8th King World Government triggers the Christ arrival, so you can imagine now what they are really concealing for a while. (Dan8:14)

That is the “place the disgusting thing” that Bethel has concealed with a USSR failure (Dan11:36) playing the decoy “King North” to bypass that prophecy with that 3rd UN event concealed, AND the to “lose sight”, rather than “catch sight” of the time Bethel went UN NGO in support of the United Nation’s third step, of four, to world government in the future, UN1-2-3-4.

THAT is what “lawless one” Bethel is CONCEALING.

NOW Bethel is attempting to use Matthew 24:15 as applicable to Christendom, in the future, as they are the Pied Pipers who are telling JWs to “obey us as crazy as it sounds”, when it is time for “us to tell you what “safe house” to go to”, when the organization is also attacked, FIRST, in this process. They shifted up the JW expected attack, they programmed it with an “interval”, and they baited it with a FAKE CHRIST ARRIVAL expectation, as JWs are now told to OBEY THE DISGUSTING JW ORG, as if their very lives depended on it! (WT 7/15/15)

And they are priming it with their RC rebellion tactic, it has set the future pace.

Bethel Versus Caesar—Wonder Who Will Win?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/bethel-versus-rc-caesar-wonder-who-will-win/

Now Pearl, the spiritual identities you just described, apostasy of (Israel) FIRST, then Gentile IMPOSTOR infiltration, to effect the collusion “they will certainly place” of the UN and JW UN NGO, and THEN fully subvert (Dan8:12a), and control JWs, is all in our KEY DANIEL PROPHECY TO NOW DISCERN.

This is because we have the post Cold War unique “last time” (Dan11:29) cycle ending, into several CO-DEVELOPMENTS that emerge in the world, and at Bethel, with that 3rd UN 1990 event:

(Daniel 11:30-32) “And he will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will have to go back and will give…

(APOSTASY FIRST:)

…consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. 31 And…

(INFILTRATION NEXT:)

…there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature].

(UN NGO COLLUSION NEXT:)

“And they will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation.

(TOTAL KN JW SUBVERSION LAST:)

32 “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words.

1. We have the historic post Cold War and 1990 3rd UN placement gauging. (Dan11:29,31b)

2. We have the apostasy AT BETHEL among some anointed. (Dan11:30b)

3. We have “arms that stand up” >>PROCEEDING FROM<< THE GENTILE GLOBAL POWER “KING NORTH”. (Dan11:31a)

4. We have the “sanctuary” and “constant feature” of anointed Christians as their target to profane. (Dan11:31a)

5. And we have the apostasy, as being led, by King North. (Dan11:32a)

We know in 1976, that GB Dictatorial Revolt, was a first step of “lifting themselves over everyone”, by further deifying a mundane corporate device (the board of directors), and its corporation (the WTBTS, JW organization), as if “God’s chosen” and divine, a TOTAL BLASPHEMOUS IDOLATRY, that has all been developing, at the same time, to this 1990 pinnacle partnership with the UN wildbeast.

THAT allowed infiltrators into the ministry. That allowed the UN NGO to be brought in, in time. And that is what now guides the JW downward spiral into total, UN supporting modern JW apostasy as all now “act wickedly against the holy covenant”. When they covenanted with the UN NGO, they left the Kingdom “holy covenant”, as far as anointed apostasy goes, in this development.

But I notice some missed the very explicit key reference Christ made to Daniel, when explaining Matthew 24:15. So once we do make that connection, we get the when, where, what, why, how, and who to place this prophecy, in 1990’s red flags, as aided by Bethel, as one whole disgusting thing. The UN is the “disgusting thing”, the UN NGO is Bethel’s ensign version of it, the GB are the Neo-Roman “King North” implants.

Now if JWs did not have the valid “first witnessing” understanding to guard, rather than try to redefine all prophecy as some are trying to do, then they would not be in among JWs to break the UN1-2-3-4 continuum at UN 3, 1990. We ONLY dump what they have been covering up in prophecy since after 1976 to 1990, in regard to the key rival sovereign “gentile” world power we were supposed to be tracking like a Hawk on a Jack Rabbit. They broke JW awareness of UN 3.0 1990, so JWs will not connect UN 1919, and UN 1945, to that UN 3.0, UN1-2-3 en route to World Government, or UN 1-2-3-4, when Daniel 12:11 WILL REPEAT IN THE FUTURE.

If JWs cannot see UN1-2-3 here, they cannot see UN1-2-3-4 either, and that means if JWs cannot see it, the “constant feature” teachings aspect is also NOT warning others of what UN1–2-3-4 means in assured complete world government, a number of years (Dan8:14; Rev11:3) from now.

If JWs cannot expose 8th King as King North WORLD GOVERNMENT COMPLETION, for that premature “end of the world” delusion now at Bethel (2Thess2:1-2), then ALL JWS will fail, as will ALL anointed Christians!

If 8th King King North places World Government, BEFORE anointed can warn of it in Rev11:1-7, then the final anointings (Matt25:1-13) AND the final affirmation sealings cannot take place to REQUIRED COMPLETION (Rev7; Rev14)

Then the Messianic Kingdom portion cannot complete.

Then the whole ministry is a BUST.

And THAT hope of Satan, is what the GB now aids among Jehovah’s witnesses are they put anointed Christians asleep and in befouled state, as foretold in that key “disgusting thing” prophecy.

But they fail, but they will try, none the less.

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Thanks, this was a very “level headed” and realistic record of a “Bethell experience”.

Now on a more serious note. What people are trying “put their finger on” is a little deeper. You know, I think, that “GUT feeling” that “something is terribly wrong at >and INSIDE< of Bethel” “but I cannot quite figure out WHAT it is”, is for a good reason.

Not everyone “at Bethel” is a “brother”. And I mean as in “certain men have slipped in”, not just hypocritical or “lukewarm”. (Jude1:1-6; Dan8:12)

That is how the WTBTS has “laundered” 30 billion in assets (since 1970); and JWs? JWs Think they are “going broke”; BULL. They are MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR, 30 billion is being conservative.

Just a heads up: In the >near< future, they will use >accelerated< RICO prosecution methods when it is “soon, very soon” time (7/15/15), to take the JW-Org-Circus down. (Dan11:41; Dan8:11) They themselves are saying the JW org is to be “in siege”, and that “soon, very soon”, (first in the order now), and JWs do not bat an eye at such a statement.

Why? “the obey effect” and Bethel WT heroin.

I know it may sound crazy at this time, but Bethel is “company” run, that is >globally< intel targeted and long infiltrated, for a BIG DOLLAR score, I mean BIG in the BILLIONS, and that is why JWs will see NONE of that left over 10 billion when they need it. It is an op. 20 billion has already been “skimmed”, and a portion of its tracks are to be purposely “left behind” for the coming rackets and laundering charges. (That way many innocent brothers will be dragged into the top-down prosecutions.)

Remember when Bethell said this:

*** Daniel’s Prophecy chap. 16 p. 274 par. 8 The Contending Kings Near Their End ***

Not all who professed to have an interest in serving God during the Cold War years had good motives. The angel had warned: “Many will certainly join themselves to them by means of smoothness.” (Daniel 11:34b) A considerable number showed an interest in the truth but were not willing to make a dedication to God. Yet others who seemed to accept the good news were really spies for the authorities. A report from one land reads: “Some of these unscrupulous characters were avowed Communists who had crept into the Lord’s organization, made a great display of zeal, and had even been appointed to high positions of service.”

Do we think the CIA is not also going to “take a peak” into the 30 BILLION DOLLAR JW “Candy Store”? MI6? Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. (The FBI and CIA are literally “bumping into each other” INSIDE of Bethel’s top admins.)

That statement from Bethel is just a distraction, it is far far wore than just the KGB. Russia wants JWs OUT, because they know who is INSIDE of the Bethel rackets.

Big anti-JW-org events are coming. Do NOT get “scared back in” into the JW org trap. (Matt24:15) Read WT 7/15/15 and 11/15/13 VERY VERY CAREFULLY. You will know when you get to the parts where they will use the JW organization and its “obedience structure” to capture JWs, aided by a fake Armageddon hoax.

The top of Bethel’s “pyramid” is NOT who you think they are, nor who they claim to be. Just giving you a heads up. In a few years, these statements will not seem crazy in the least. I promise.

The “problem” many sense at, and looking into, Bethel’s system, is far far far deeper AND FAR FAR WORSE, than a few hypocrites. (Dan11:32a) It was like stealing candy from a billion dollar baby, because 1, JWs are naive and 2, they are being purposely “obey, obey” programmed for future capture. DO >>NOT<< GO BACK—UNDER >>ANY<< CIRCUMSTANCES. And web-search “templelijah jw judgment” for how Bethel is the final apostasy locale.

Jot it down, the near future will affirm these statements. (So will Daniel 8:13-14 timing and events eventually be affirmed and verified) Things are going to take a cyclic turn for the worse in the future, BUT it is not “the end” (Rev13:3; Rev17:8-13 have a final cycle), it is just the US and EU national sovereign deposition process of the nation-state “old order” system. (Dan11:42-43; or the “7th King” “King South” fall, to allow “8th King” “King North” full world government global “rise” over the next 10 to 18 years)

They plan to >fully< takeover the WTBTS corporations (Dan11:41), and cancel the JW ministry, globally, in the process, and smokescreen it by telling JWs “it is simply the end brothers, look no further!”. But it will not be “the end”, it is 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2, and what was just covered. It is the attempted “end game” on the JW org, to culminate the objective and goal of why they are “IN the house”, for quite some time now. They are not there to stay, but to steal, and betray. That is why the “cave of robbers” is ALWAYS the first problem, and the first to be dealt with, in time. (Eze7:22)

Regards

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[QUOTE who=”I_know_better_now “][/QUOTE]
I am not trying to stay on the fence, I am trying to be very careful. True I am aware of certain things happening, but if we start a campaign to attack as you are doing we are not show faith in Jehovah. [/QUOTE]

But you are attacking the org, if you want to term it as such. You say they have “demon” subliminals in their artwork.

Think that TRUTH is going to draw people to the JW org?

WELL DONE! That’s the SPIRIT! And I am being SERIOUS, now you are getting the hang of the second trumpet, before it comes a blasting to the world of JWs, and the world itself.

[QUOTE who=”I_know_better_now “]All we should do is make our quiet moves through the proper channels and try to not harm the sheep. That is Jehovah’s way.. [/QUOTE]

And what “channel” would that be? The Man of Lawlessness “Channel” at Bethel or in the organ?

[QUOTE who=”I_know_better_now “]What you are doing is swinging a butcher knife and stumbling others in the process.. You are right about some things but you are also exaggerating on some things. [/QUOTE]

I am conservative, it will be worse than I even say.

[QUOTE who=”I_know_better_now “]I know you do know it’s the truth and you do respect the old way but trying to belittle the present “truth” is not the way to deal with an organization already under attack on the inside. You must handle it with great care. I regret saying anything that could harm another person some things we must entrust to Jehovah. [/QUOTE]

But you are out too, raising doubt. So, you are on the right road, to try to open JW eyes, NOW, when it can be useful.

[QUOTE who=”I_know_better_now “]I have decided to do that while I still do what I can but to do a internet campaign against the org I will not do that. These are my brothers Jehovah’s sheep and they must be looked after carefully.. Do you not understand that?[/QUOTE]

Oh, but you are doing an “internet campaign”. It may be just a few paragraphs, but it still is a campaign.

[QUOTE who=”I_know_better_now “]I believe your ego is getting in the way of rational thinking. [/QUOTE]

People with ego, glorify their own name, and often sell books and seek followers. I do none of that, I seek people to encourage them to place their faith, hope, energy and resources to GOD ALONE. After Him, Christ is to be trusted and have faith in TOO, but he is NOT to be worshiped.

Jehovah GOD ALMIGHTY ALONE gets the worship, and the main glory. He SHOWERS glory on Christ, so Christ needs glory from none one but Jehovah. but of course he too, by waiting, will get great glory, when Jehovah wills it, and evn now from his brothers and sisters, but in a balanced way, so as not to eclipse Almighty God in ANY way.

The GB is who steals the light for their own folly, profit and prestige. THEY are who are sinning against all man, JWs, anointed, God and Christ.

They are the BIGGEST SINNERS on the face of the Earth at this time, only one upped by the Pharisees. But they are the same brood.

You are already in the campaign against them. Good. I should be saying more.

In time God will condemn the entity, and expose them globally. When God gets behind the sacking of his enemy, the enemy not only is neutralized, they are exposed too.

The GB has no future. It has been illegal, from day one. But it took time, to go full apostate rogue dictators, with probably total impostors by this time. In essence, Satanists run the org, through the GB Main Coven of Warlocks.

And that is being conservative, they are probably top level Masonic High Priests of Satan, and late-generation seed of Satan himself.

THAT is how bad it is, INSIDE of Bethel. The “artists” are just the tip of the iceberg.

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Remember when Bethell said this about spies in the JW organization?:

*** Daniel’s Prophecy chap. 16 pp. 274-275 pars. 8-9 The Contending Kings Near Their End ***

Not all who professed to have an interest in serving God during the Cold War years had good motives. The angel had warned: “Many will certainly join themselves to them by means of smoothness.” (Daniel 11:34b) A considerable number showed an interest in the truth but were not willing to make a dedication to God. Yet others who seemed to accept the good news were really spies for the authorities. A report from one land reads: “Some of these unscrupulous characters were avowed Communists who had crept into the Lord’s organization, made a great display of zeal, and had even been appointed to high positions of service.”

9 The angel continued: “And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of the end; because it is yet for the time appointed.” (Daniel 11:35) The infiltrators caused some faithful ones to fall into the hands of the authorities. Jehovah allowed such things to happen for a refining and a cleansing of his people. Just as Jesus “learned obedience from the things he suffered,” so these faithful ones learned endurance from the testing of their faith. (Hebrews 5:8; James 1:2, 3; compare Malachi 3:3.) They are thus ‘refined, cleansed, and whitened.’

Infiltration of False Christians

*** pc p. 26 par. 4 Pursue Lasting Peace and Happiness With God’s People ***

4 In time, the Christian congregation faced a period of dramatic changes. As foretold in the Bible, false Christians infiltrated God’s organization and became a lawless influence, bringing in teachings and practices that were unscriptural.

Infiltration of Ipostors

*** si p. 261 par. 1 Bible Book Number 65—Jude ***

THE Christian brothers of Jude were in danger! During the time that had elapsed since the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus, foreign elements had wormed their way into the Christian congregation. The enemy had infiltrated for the purpose of undermining the faith, just as the apostle Paul, about 14 years previously, had warned. (2 Thess. 2:3) How should the brothers be alerted and placed on guard against the danger?

But to today’s Jehovah’s witnesses, thinking of false Christians or impostors in their leadership is simply impossible, they have ignore their own warnings and that of the Bible. And this sort of laxity is why JWs have become the main target of infiltration and apostasy. They think it impossible, so it slips in as the naive baby guard sleeps.

But in the process, the POSSIBILITY of apostasy and INFILTRATION, has been explored from Bethel’s own mouth.

In reality do we think the CIA is not also going to “take a peak” into the 30 BILLION DOLLAR JW “Candy Store”? MI6? Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. (The FBI and CIA are literally “bumping into each other” INSIDE of Bethel’s top admins.)

That statement from Bethel in regard to Daniel 11:34-35 is just a distraction, it is far far wore than just the KGB or (National Security Ministry). Russia wants JWs OUT, because they know who is INSIDE of the Bethel rackets, and they know the purpose of the “fifth column” NGOs in Russia. The Bethel racketeers are even framing Russia for their own King North cover up, and their own JW swindle operation.

Russia Framed as King North—The Purpose
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/russia-framed-as-king-north-the-true-purpose/

Big anti-JW-org events are coming. Do NOT get “scared back in” into the JW org trap. (Matt24:15) Read WT 7/15/15 and 11/15/13 VERY VERY CAREFULLY. You will know when you get to the parts where they will use the JW organization and its “obedience structure” to capture JWs, aided by a fake Armageddon hoax.

Your Deliverance is Getting Near!—The Question is: Deliverance to What?
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/jwupdate/deliverance-to-what/

The top of Bethel’s “pyramid” is NOT who you think they are, nor who they claim to be. Just giving you a heads up. In a few years, these statements will not seem crazy in the least. I promise.

The “problem” many sense at, and looking into, Bethel’s system, is far far far deeper AND FAR FAR WORSE, than a few hypocrites. (Dan11:32a) It was like stealing candy from a billion dollar baby, because 1, JWs are naive and 2, they are being purposely “obey, obey” programmed for future capture. DO >>NOT<< GO BACK—UNDER >>ANY<< CIRCUMSTANCES. Bethel is the final apostasy locale.

Jot it down, the near future will affirm these statements. (So will Daniel 8:13-14 timing and events eventually be affirmed and verified) Things are going to take a cyclic global turn for the worse in the future, BUT it is not “the end” (Rev13:3; Rev17:8-13 have a final cycle), it is just the US and EU national sovereign deposition process of the nation-state “old order” system. (Dan11:42-43; or the “7th King” “King South” fall, to allow “8th King” “King North” full world government global “rise” over the next 10 to 18 years)

US/EU 7th King/King South Required Downfall
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/12/14/useu-7th-kingking-south-required-downfall/

They plan to >fully< takeover the WTBTS corporations (Dan11:41), and cancel the JW ministry, globally, in the process, and smokescreen it by telling JWs “it is simply the end brothers, look no further!”. But it will not be “the end”, it is 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2, and what was just covered. It is the attempted “end game” on the JW org, to culminate the objective and goal of why they are “IN the house”, for quite some time now. They are not there to stay, but to steal, and betray. That is why the “cave of robbers” is ALWAYS the first problem, and the first to be dealt with, in time. (Eze7:22)

Bethel Versus Caesar—Wonder Who Will Win?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/bethel-versus-rc-caesar-wonder-who-will-win/

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[QUOTE who=”TJWandDiva25″]After all his bluster and even carrying the name “betheljudgement” he now admits that the Israel of God “anointed christians” will be judged first.
So “betheljudgement” how have you been judged? What did it entail? how long did it last? and how did you feel in the final result?
Explain to me in detail the passage of scripture where Jacob contended with god and won?
Oh yes certainly It starts with us.[/QUOTE]

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I have always admitted ALL CHRISTIANS AND ANOINTED dispersed in that mix, will be judged and affected first.

But Bethel’s UN allied apostasy is where God will start, by Christ kicking out the “cave of robbers” who ALWAYS develop with the apostasy.

Now Bethel has easily milked, built and skimmed from a total 30 Billion dollar empire, conservative estimate.

So SOMEONE, some group of controllers KNOWS all the ins and outs of the Bethel bank connections, investment connections and derivatives and hedging requirements.

JWs know NONE of that, due to ZERO transparency. But the FBI, Interpol and other law enforcement agencies can research the Bethel “paper trail” in what has been provided by the Bthel King North pros who have been wiring Bethel for demolition, while the main booty, in the BILLIONS, is already gone, or set up for national level absorption.

The “pedophile policies” is nothing compared to the RICO backed accelerated suspension of due process that is brewing over Bethel, as well. And this is because it is not a speculation Bethel is involed in “cave of robbers” theft, it is what they have been doing since 1990, fully. And it is prophecy:

(Ezekiel 7:22) . . .“‘And I shall have to turn away my face from them, and they will actually profane my concealed place, and into it robbers will really come and profane it.

Thus the context of Christ removing them from the temple, will entail huge anti-JW-org events, and in the smoke and mirrors, angels will get who they need to get, in whatever way purposed and required. Not all will be exterminated by the angels of God, but they are ALL OVER the temple judgment prophecies (1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14; Rev8:3-5; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5):

(Matthew 13:39-42) . . .The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. 41 The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be.

The Apostate Bethell system is that “A system of things” now, to suffer “A conclusion”. It is ONLY the end of Bethel (Dan8:13-14; Dan11:41), in the context of the 7th King downfall. (Dan11:42-43) King South, 7th King MUST fall, before the 8th King rises into full world government. Bethel says no such thing do they? Because they cover up the final global required completions, and their great prophetic circumstances, that usher in the Christ arrival some years from now, some years after Bethel is sacked as Daniel 8:13-14.

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They are who require laundering (Zech3:4-5), for their laundering racketeering operation. It will not be pretty. But the “befouled garments” of Zechariah 3:1-5 are not laundered are they? No, they are >removed<.

That is the TRUTH of the Apostate Bethel reality and its future consequences, because they are “set in opposition” to the final summary, so they are removed first, they have to be removed to allow the truth to come forth. In the process, those anti-JW-org events will garner MASSIVE GLOBAL ATTENTION.

THAT is why God permits it, to inform people later.

(Galatians 4:16) . . .Well, then, have I become YOUR enemy because I tell YOU the truth?

I contend with the LIARS of Beth Hell:

(Revelation 2:2) 2 ‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars.

They are Goliath. Going down, big, and hard.

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[QUOTE who=”Lordylordy9111″]<quoted text>

The mind control experiments have been around a long time. What makes people behave, like love and war, power and fear, etc., etc. It was studied since WWII BUT it surged in 1980 around the time the McMartin preschool child sexual abuse trials took off along with dozens of other preschool child abuse cases were emerging all over the US. This surge of mind control surge was due to “asral projecting” of satanic sexual abuse. It was meant to illuminate satan’s symbol and to force ALL to bow down to it and worship it. It did not have its FULL AFFECT until Bush became president and entered hymns of unity of enemies by his priest and wife (illuminati) in 1989. Their words and hymns made all in the US bow to satan’s symbol. Even when he was taking 9 trillion $$$$ from the black budget and put it into NASA doomsday machine that took out the WTC on 9.11, no one had the power to say. The Bush created a NEW HYMN “WAR ON TERROR” and a new enemy was created and also another innocent one who had done nothing. No one could feel or think for themselves. They were told what to think. Just as what you have described. Its made from words and cues. [/QUOTE]

When I saw those people doing loops at the Sandy Hook area firestation, I knew this thing is beyond normal behavior control. You have top even producers involved, obviously, but you also have “extras” level people also “playing their part”.

It is as if “they are among us”, but only they know. Most people are naive and cognitively dissonant to even the possibility that this is a top down global development, as in Noah’s day, when every day the “seed of Satan”, and its influence, permeates the real world ever deeper and wider, to the point they run a show, of many parts, but they are running it.

To shut up the eyes wider open among us, this is labelled “crazy”, to try to insulate the possible exposure by the ridicule method first. But the blind masses are the target herd, to herd.

And like Noah’s day, in time it gets so bad, there is only one divine solution. And the divine solution also has some “among us”, because the Kingdom is composed of some earthlings, “reborn”, for the final operation under Christ.

But this time, more than 8 people will be saved. And this time the world is not being slammed into an interim state, for but more demon rule, but for the Kingdom of Christ. It may be a 1000 years long, but it is a million years high. Christ will accomplish, in effect, thousands of years of progress, by God’s power and total understanding, in that seemingly short “1000 year” rule.

That is why those who can make “Judgment Day”, a day of decisions good and bad, can have their entire lives assessed, in every detail of the minutia of complications we see in the lives of many, at levels of God’s understanding of their minds, and how Satan worked in their unique minds, to form the real opportunity for complete change.

So we can try to imagine the power of many of Christ’s assistants aiding him, on a one on one basis with billions of potential resurrected and saved ones. God and Christ have no “limitations”, in fact they have the opposite of “limits”, they have eternal ability to do anything required to fully concentrate on every single individual to come into that 1000 year reign.

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For such reasons, they can save far more people in this next transition, and they will remove Satan 100%, and fully depose every vestige of his seed, in its physical infiltration of the human domain, for 100% earthly purity and perfection, in the process.

That is why when God says ALL THINGS are to be gathered in Christ, He means ALL THINGS, not just human beings, but everything that also died due to human sin. The entire context of the “new earth” and “recreation” is the REALITY to come. The current context of ALL human understanding, as to the past, death, and history, is composed by demons, and will be “revised”, because its context forms an entire global context of “The Lie”. The whole thing is composed to support the death and predation myth.

The fact “the lion will eat straw”, and all animals will no longer prey on eachother, and decay, as in Romans 8:18-22 “corruption” will be REMOVED, indicates how different Edenic REALITY really is.

People cannot imagine it, without thinking it is “crazy” to think, God will restore EVERY living being. (Eze47:9)

And why? Because of lack of true understanding based on the Eden fruit and sin combination, doubts, and BELIEFS in the current “Big Lie”, people cannot “see” the reality of these coming changes. But nothing is impossible to God, but as Jesus said, things are impossible with men.

Thus we cannot really on human doubt, to see the realities of the 1000 year reign, as the start of God’s Eternal Reign of all future REALITY. Satan is done, the lie is almost over. And it was a BIG LIE, meant to undermine God’s BIG REALITY OF TRUTH, that shall prevail none the less.

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[QUOTE who=”TJWandDiva25″]Tell me the judgement.
What did it entail.
Let me put it this way. When you where called to the kingdom you could describe to me certain things and point to certain scriptures and I would understand your point and vice versa.
So do the same for me with the judgement. Show me scriptures describing it. I’ll understand it[/QUOTE]

(Daniel 8:11-12) And all the way to the Prince of the army it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place…

(Bethel JW worldwide organization)

…of his sanctuary was thrown down.

(anointed “trampling”)

12 And an…

(JW worldwide)

…army itself was gradually given over (to 8th King infiltrative control), together with the constant [feature] …

(imbibed with disinformation),

…because of transgression; …

(UN NGO and other sins permits allowance of the compromise by removed divine blessing and discernment while fulfillment of prophecy is effected for greater future purpose);

and it kept throwing truth to the earth…

(cover up, disinformation),

…and it acted and had success.

(Dan11:30 “act effectively” parallel completely successful unlike anything World War 2 produced in ultimate failure when compared to this 8th King engineered intelligence and subversion operation deployed through the Governing Body and installed Bethel agents);

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Temple Indictment as UN NGO “Transgression” Related (Matt24:15), and the Timed Temple Judgment;

(Daniel 8:13-14) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the…

(profaned)

…constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation…

(UN NGO alliance of Daniel 11:31b),

…to make both [the] holy place…

(temple “established place” and the anointed; Dan8:11)

…and [the]…

(JW worldwide)

…army things to trample on?”

(first 8th King “trampling” “attack” defining the spiritual meaning of the “tribulation of those days” beginning with Daniel 11:41);

14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.”

(Temple judgment purification completed in this timed period parallel Zechariah 3:4-5, Revelation 8:1-5);
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[quote=’sarcasm’ pid=’40628′ dateline=’1450682797′]
a while ago I read another thread where StarTemple explained the decoy deceptions. this one explains way more and this is one discussion so far, deserving a sticky.
as Howard says perhaps us humans, God willing, are to carry out the final struggle to victory over evil.
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God just loves to go the route of MOST RESISTANCE, and employing human beings in His purpose, is how.

Religions like to be the “winning team”, it is all built on the same base psychology, and in time serves the same purpose for the state control of the herd.

This is actually GREAT NEWS, not just “good news”, because it means God must broaden out salvation to all humans. But we have to be FRIENDLY. If we notice, religions always seem to devolve into divisions, which is also a delaying process. And I am not judging individuals, only God can see our true nature and intent.

This the wisdom in LOVE, doing what we KNOW to be right, transcends “religions”, who are not to be the object of faith, trust and truth. They devolve like a sand castle.

So in time, due to religions actually delaying and subverting the divine will of LOVE all over Earth, God has to use the power He commands of the creation of “mind” and “being”, to increase the simple conscienceness that WORLD GOVERNMENT, OF MEN, is not a thing from God, and it has no good intent for humans.

Because at some point, GOD ALMIGHTY, will be the only one who can depose his sovereign rival. And He is allowing it to run the full course, because he is looking to SAVE the simplest of humans, the most inexperienced, and that is aided by the global circumstances that will precede and lead into World Government, in order to increase the most basic awareness that World Government will TRIGGER the arrival of God Almighty, to SAVE people from the real NWO enemy.

God gets painted as the “bad guy”, when in fact He MUST save many people, the NWO is who the “bad guy” really is.

And in time, in its most basic form, the truth of this matter will get clearer and clearer to you, and all people, so they can hope in God. If one believes Christ is God’s Son, then more power to them, but God has to assess all people, in the exact same manner, but DIAMETRIC IN INTENT, that Satan is trying to condemn all people.

Thus, EVERYTHING the “evil force” uses to try to harm people, God uses to save all He will. In its ironic way, it is ALL great news, in the most basic logic of it all. Because it has to get simple, fro many people. But for those with more experience, the totality of the sovereign equation will also get far clearer. We MUST keep out motives PURE, to allow maximum awareness aided by God. We may fail, we do it many times, but we can NEVER give up.

FAITH IN GOD, is the key. Thus we must understand His nature is LOVE, we cannot allow the slander of Him, to undermine our faith in HIM ALONE. Now for those believing the Son of God is real, he is a person to put faith. Regardless of all the slander and doubt, and confusion, the will of God will be accomplished on Earth by his Super-Universal Government, or “Kingdom of God”. He is not coming to divvy earth up with the warlords, bankers, technocrats and top level predators. THEY are done. Reject their fake and weak NWO “Kingdom”, it is doomed.

All it has to do is complete, to finalize its own “doomsday” amidst a great global salvation, as all these things will mature over the next say 10-18 years or so. Probably more than a decade, rush as they may to meet the world governemnt goal, they must be delayed so as to meet God’s timeline, which outline will emerge a number of years from now, in detail, to aid both inexperienced and experienced seekers of God Almighty.

What if some one was looking for you, as there mother or father separated by circumstances, not intent. Would one not convene the search, just because they made a mistake as to the real identity of their father or mother? No, and the same with God, He knows the house of mirrors Satan has set up, to assume the paternal role of this world. When the real Father arrives, the fake will be neutralized, and the children of God Almighty, will meet their Maker, in a GREAT WAY, nothing to fear at all, all fear is from the Devil, because fear is his core—and for good reason.

People having faith in their Father being God Almighty, will NOT be disappointed. Because it is the TRUTH, and that is why the truth “needle” is buried in the global “haystack” of lies. Lies, and deceptions is all the “powers that be” have. And what kind of truth, needs to coerce and deceive for people to believe it?

There comes a time, when one knows it is a lie, and no longer can we just be prostituted for the lie. The line gets drawn, for some people, when they see the true nature of the lie now enveloping this world, to serve the “powers that be”. Future days will aid awareness of the truth, in every manner and dimension, to save many many people, by their Maker’s LOVE POWER. The rule of death and lies is being exposed, before it itself dies, by the hand of God, the real Creator and Owner of ALL REALITIES.

Now is not the time for religious squabbles, of that “global divide and conquer” sector. Now is the time to convene with God by spirit, and let HIM do the teaching of love, which is no “cliche” to Him, for he IS LOVE AND LIFE ITSELF. That is what the “powers that be” are working against, love and life. They win some battles, but they lose the war.

This world is getting closer to the day, it meets God Himself, and about a 100 billion holy angels, way way way conservative in estimate. One for every star in that sky, even the “unseen” ones. They will ALL be “dropping in” and “showing up”, come that day on the calendar of REALITY, it WILL come.

Do NOT let anyone make you believe otherwise. He will come, and world government is the final “circumstance” to trigger that arrival, shortly after the complete and state their global government and its final world “peace and security” claim.

Now they may use a FAKE “peace and security” in the future. That is because they want people to think what follows is “doomsday”, but it is NOT, it is the global crisis to present the global solution, s bad as it may get.

The REAL “World Peace” signal (2Thess5:1-3), comes under world government in COMPLETE form, several years from now, and well after their “doomsday” HOAX cycle has run its course (Dan11:41-43), into a global “healing” of enormous proportions. (Rev13:3)

Do NOT get fooled, and hope and have faith in God Almighty. Endeavor to keep guarding the motives for the POSITIVE to maximize His power in oneself. THAT is why they try to coerce people by various injustices, trials and violations of people and life.

Doing what is right and good, is the most powerful course, though difficult, because the enemy knows love and good has great power. It is the the “Global Job” testing, Job is a picture of all humans, as God will assess every human, especially those trying to do his will of LOVE.

LOVE NEVER DIES. (Eze47:9; Rev21:-22) Hate and death, die, in time. That is why they are promoted, overt and covert, so consistently.

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[QUOTE who=”imagoodboy”]<quoted text>
Bethelman you follow in the footsteps of the WTS by beliving the the LIE, 607 BCE was Jerusalem destruction!
The date 607 BCE is bad not Good![/QUOTE]

No, things are changing.

“Seven Times” Updates Coming—”Appointed Times of the Nations” Reconsidered, Again
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/12/29/seven-times-updates-coming-appointed-times-of-the-nations-reconsidered-again/

First off one has to know the basics of the subject matter. It is not a “chronological” error, it is an error of assumption of a chronological date and a a presumed event.

Since it is the “gentile times” and “appointed times” >of the NATIONS<, the base timing is to be benchmarked on the times of gentile powers, which “cookie cutter” template of time and events, trims the “Jerusalem” underlay.

607 BCE is marked by BABYLON, as explicitly stated in Daniel 4. 586 BCE was the eventual Jerusalem destruction event marker. It does not have to start the “seven times” as first 70 years. From Jerusalem/Temple Destruction, is seventy years, or “seven times” to Temple completion of 516 BCE.

That is the connection to Zechariah’s time and prophecy. Zechariah 3-4 connects to Revelation 11’s “seven times” as 2520 days. 2 Witnesses x 1260 days = 2520 days. The “first witnessing” was in 1914-1918, as connected to as well by the “seven times” 2520 years span.

But there is a “second witnessing” REQUIREMENT of also 1260 days in the future. THAT wil compleet “seven times” final warning, before 8th King world government completes, which completion triggers the Christ arrival.

The “seven times” update will emerge with the final warning of the “second witness” of the future.

The “seven times” is a means to tie all prophecy together, as is Jerusalem to Christian history, and the history of the wildbeast in Daniel 2, 7,8,11-12 and Revelation 13 and 17.

Daniel 4 is just a total linkage of the Sovereign Ultimatum of God’s Kingdom, to the world government boys it is coming for, to offer surrender and salvation, in lieu of Armageddon War with Christ and his 7000 billion angels.

Like Jerusalem of old, though, the 8th King will opt for war. Some from their ranks, and all walks of life, will surrender, and choose Christ’s Kingdom as their center of allegiance, thus avoiding the 666 of World Government allegiance and support.

God is just finishing what early Jehovah’s witnesses began to make known in the first cycle, and first witnessing. But a final witnessing will be given (Rev10:11), before these things all take place.

Why TWO Witnesses?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/why-two-witnesses
https://jwupdate.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/why_two_witnesses_revelation11.pdf

The FIRST SIGN, is Bethel’s apostate downfall (Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14), they have to be removed, to let the final “update” come forth in that final witnessing. It is the temple judgment of 1 Peter 4:17 and (Dan8:13-14; Rev8:3-5; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5).

“seven Times” wil complete in the final cycle, the second cycle of Revelation 8-11. This time in perfect forward, 1-7, sequence.

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On December 30, 15, Lordylordy9111 wrote:
> Hope you are well. I read your new post on templelijah on 607 bc. I agree it
> has more to do with other matters other than the fall of Jerusalem. I really
> have a hard time rapping my head around dates. But it is significant to the
> temple judgment. Clearly the “two witnesses” do measure the temple and are
> commissioned by God to give warning. I appreciate your efforts.
>
> I am decompressing from some of the events in this year. I will make a full
> recovery. I will be glad when the temple construction begins but it will have
> to wait for now.
>
> Take care. Keep the hope alive. You and the other brother and sisters are in my
> prayers.
>
> Agape

Thanks, people like YOU are what gives my efforts more hope, you know, I KNOW NOW this is not “make believe”, by brothers and sisters who can “see” the core meaning, and the poor state of modern Bethel.

For a while it was a little difficult, because I had to change my message, so some Topix JWs, do nto like me any more. Told the truth, became their enemy, like Paul said.

Then I had to admit it to a brother in the Topix PMs, who was just getting reinstated, who I had been talking to a couple years in that way, so I was afraid of rejection, and “stumbling” him, but he saw it immediately.

So it is encouraging when people REALLY see it, like you have. But you know God has to open the eyes to these kinds of things, but we have had to be paying attention to hit this latest “curve ball” from Bethell.

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Now with 607 BCE, it is “gentile times”, “appointed times” of the NATIONS, so we know now logically, the gentile developments are the benchmark. The harder to define Jerusalem “underlay” is parallel, and it all works as one, with no glitches, in reality.

By the 586-516 BCE “70 years” “seven times”, we connect to Zechariah like an iron bridge. Zechariah 3-4 connects to Revelation 11’s “seven times” as 2520 days, as does the 2520 years also arrive in that same base year of 1914 BCE. Zech6:9-15 was how God crowned a low-key “King Priest”, with the Temple Completion event.

Thus it all links solidly to Revelation 8-11’s second cycle, second witness, 2 witnesses x 1260 days, for 2520 days. Thus that hanging “time, times and half a time”, “3.5 times” INCOMPLETE number, is resolved, as it must occur twice, and complete as “seven times”.

And the base logic, the sovereign drama, the prophecy, the concept, and dating harmony, just makes it all the more credible.

Agape

Thank you, a lot, my prayers are also with you. I appreciate your encouragement, and I also hope to return the same to your ministerial work in a unified regard for the Kingdom.
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[QUOTE who=”array”]another crime among JW and cover ups, disgusting and the JW parents of these children are just as much to blame on this as well as the congregation elders. The worse case I have ever heard.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3377449/Jehovah-s-Witness-strangled-girls-young-six-sexual-thrills-finally-jailed-congregation-covered-crimes-20-years.html%5B/QUOTE%5D

Expect a literal tsunami of these kinds of exposed cases, when they come to sweep apostate Bethell away. But expect more in the way of RICO rackets and laundering charges, to speed up the wave velocity.

When the dam breaks, there will be no reversing it. It has not broke yet, but we get the hint. (Matt24:15)

Forget “habeaus corpus”, and “due process” when they really come for Bethell. They are going to shut them down in accelerated manner, when that day arrives. It is Daniel 8:13-14 in the Daniel 11:41 context.

Beth Hell will tell JWs it is Daniel 11:44, as the “the end” smokescreen cover exit plan. (2Thess2:1-2) The impostors in Bethell, will slip back to home camp “King North”. JWs, from top to bottom, will end up holding the empty bag, showered in the crap storm that will then be falling out.

Some impostors will be vaporized by the cleansing Christ and his angels (Isa66:6), to clean out the temple first, as usual, the “cave of robbers” is the first target. (1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14; Rev8:3-5; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5)

But that is not until 3.19 years into Daniel 8:13-14 probable 6.38 years total temple judgment timing. (Rev8:3-5, Rev8-9 parallel) Rev8=Temple Judgment (Dan8:14,26 “evening” phase, 1150 days possible) Rev9=Recovery (Dan8:14.26 “mornign” phase, 1150 days possible)

Daniel 8:13-14 is the most improtant first timed prophecy of this final cycle to pay attention to, from the time the JW “constant feature” is fully removed, as aided by Bethel’s own mouth. (1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14; Rev8:3-5; Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5)
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Modern Sign of Jonah – Jehovah’s Witnesses Going Down for Three Years by Bethel Global Organizational Intrigues
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/2014/11/30/modern-sign-of-jonah-jehovahs-witnesses-going-down-for-three-years-by-bethel-global-organizational-intrigues/

Timed Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses – Daniel 8:13-14
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-temple-judgment/timed-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

Daniel 8:13-14 Details the Coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/daniel-813-14-details-the-coming-temple-judgment-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

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[QUOTE who=”imagoodboy”]<quoted text>
So do you now agree that 587/6 BCE is the correct date of Jerusalem destruction?
Cutting the chase!
[/QUOTE]

Yes, but it does not change the 607 BCE marker, it just extends 70 years to the Temple completion of 516 BCE.

Thus all the “controversy” is actually a non issue. Daniel 4 alerady states Babylon is the benchmark, in Neb’s ascension in 607 BCE as at the least crown prince.

It is gentile king-to-king, Neb and Cyrus mark the first 70 years, “seven times”. 586 BCE connects to Zechariah 516 BCE and Zech3, 4, 6:9-15.

Zechariah connects to Revelation 11:1-4, 2 witnesses. Each witness is 1260 days, or 2520 days “seven times” final warning, past and future, 2 x 1260 days.

Thus Daniel 4 connects all sovereign prophecy, to warn the “gentile” world government, time is short. Full warning must precede Christ arrival, to offer all, even those in the enemy system, salvation by surrender to Christ’s Kingdom.

Then Armageddon shall be fought and one by God and Christ. And about 7000 billion holy angels.

Full warning describes the fianl global circumstances which will indicate Christ’s arrival, well BEFORE they all manifest.

It starts with the temple judgment, and the globally visible cue of Bethel WTBTS JW-org downfall, and eventual global exposure. (Timed as Daniel 8:13-14 in the Daniel 11:41 context)

From there the final warning is reached as the final 1260 days begins, prior to full world government. Combined with the 1914-1918 1260 days first witness, first cycle, first warning, the final warning is 1260 days for a total “seven times” as 2520 days.

Full world government triggers Christ arrival.

The final 1260 days and 1290 days of Daniel 12:7, and Daniel 12:11, are OPEN FOR SALVATION by surrender to Christ in vow of full repentance, and acceptance of his blood coverage. (Rev7:9-17)

In that way the 666 of 8th Kign world government allegiance and support is forsaken, and the 666 is not marked on these final humans of Revelation 14:14-16. Sheep are secured first, then Armageddon goes to game day, full blown Christ anti-8th King operation, as those angels and the whole Kingdom of Christ conquers the 8th King, to its fully forewarned face.

1000 Year Reign Begins with Daniel 12:12 “only the happy” transition into a new earthly full covenant for human beings under the Marriage of the Lamb seal.

(Ezekiel 34:25) . . .“‘“And I will conclude with them a covenant of peace, and I shall certainly cause the injurious wild beast to cease out of the land, and they will actually dwell in the wilderness in security and sleep in the forests.

That is not the new covenant, nor the kingdom covenant, it is the 8th Covenant of the Children of Christ’s Marriage Arrangement.

(Ezekiel 37:24-25) . . .“‘“And my servant David will be king over them, and one shepherd is what they will all come to have; and in my judicial decisions they will walk, and my statutes they will keep, and they will certainly carry them out. 25 And they will actually dwell upon the land that I gave to my servant, to Jacob, in which YOUR forefathers dwelt, and they will actually dwell upon it, they and their sons and their sons’ sons to time indefinite, and David my servant will be their chieftain to time indefinite.

(Ezekiel 37:26-28) . . .“‘“And I will conclude with them a covenant of peace; an indefinitely lasting covenant is what there will come to be with them. And I will place them and multiply them and place my sanctuary in the midst of them to time indefinite. 27 And my tabernacle will actually prove to be over them, and I shall certainly become their God, and they themselves will become my people. 28 And the nations will have to know that I, Jehovah, am sanctifying Israel when my sanctuary comes to be in the midst of them to time indefinite.”’”

That is also a unique future covenant.
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[QUOTE who=”imagoodboy”]<quoted text>
So when do believe Babylon lost power to the Medes and the Persians?
Comparing Dan 5:24-31 with Jer 25:11-12?
Just curious![/QUOTE]

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539 BCE. Cyrus kingmarker, 537 BCE. Anything in the 2 year range, is acceptable, rather than Bethel’s “20 year” glitch.

But the simple point is, the “gentile” world power system has numbered days by God’s Kingdom, in general meaning they cannot last forever. That warning, of their removal by Christ, is what the “powers that be”, apparently, do not like to hear the “good news” of. But the day will come, whether marked by prophecy or not.

But all the controversy is just a distraction to actually non-issues, because it is “GENTILE” “times”, it is meant to give a warning to global gentile powers, and it will be benchmarked on Gentile dates. It is the “appointed times” of the NATIONS. Everything “Jerusalem” related will parallel the same timeline, as that leads to Christ, “Son of David”.

One does not need to be a JW, to realize Christ will arrive, this is not all “make believe”, and it will be an event similar to the flood, in that he will assume global power and wash away all these contenders, but especially world government, when Satan can dictate all national purpose, in unison.

WORLD GOVERNMENT IS WHAT WILL TRIGGER THE CHRIST ARRIVAL. JOT IT DOWN, IT WILL COME SEVERAL YEARS FROM NOW.

As far as 1914, it is also derived by a secondary means at Rev11:2-3, and its 4 other 1260 days cross refs. And that was determined not before it occurred, as with the 2520 years, but after it occurred. And the 1260 days in not dependent on Daniel 4, but it did arrive at 1914, by other “stand alone” means.

The events in the 1260 days cross references in Dan7:25, Dan12:7, Rev12:6,14 and Rev13:5-7, tie in global “gentile” sovereign resistance, so it fits the same theme, that Christ must take world power by force, but only after a full warning is given, beyond the stalled warning JWs are now in apostasy with.

All Bethel got wrong was the date AND event assumption. The date still stands, 607 BCE, but the event that marks it is not Jerusalem’s destruction, but Neb’s first layer ascension and Babylon’s 70 years.

It overlays the “trampling” of Jehoiakim and Zedekiah, which led to the eventual destruction of Jerusalem. But the minute gentiles placed and named Jerusalem’s kings, it began. It did not need the big psychological climax, and actual climax, of Jerusalem destruction to begin the seven times, first 70 years. That first 70 years is OBVIOUSLY the first “seven times”, and it is benchmarked on Babylon. In that way as in Daniel 2, Babylon “head of gold”, is fully harmonized properly into Daniel 4. Daniel 4 first 70 years, and its 70 years after the 586-7BCE Jerusalem destruction, connect to Haggai and Zechariah, and then Malachi’s “TEMPLE” completion significance, as Christ is to be King-PRIEST in Messianic Kingdom completion yet to come.

Zechariah 3-4 are Revelation 8-11 DIRECT EXPLICIT Temple judgment to Temple completion parallels. And thus the “seven times” of Revelation 11’s 2 witnesses, is 2 x 1260 days to equal 2520 DAYS, 2 x 3.5 times = 7 times, final warning.

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Because APOSTATE UN-Bethel is the stubborn “mountain” of Zech4:6-9, and Revelation 8:9, second cycle meaning, they are toppled first, in order for the full final warning to emerge over several final years, using Bethel’s apostasy, judgment, and downfall, to mark Revelation 8, and the Temple Judgment INCEPTION EVENT.

That is leading, in time (Dan8:14), to that final 1260 days, to COMPLETE the “seven times” totality, fully explainable and verifiable, as HUGE global events, mark the final modern prophecy fulfillment CYCLE, to world government, and the Christ arrival, sheep securement, and CONQUEST to a fully warned world power system rival, in completion.

PROOF will be, Bethel going down, and it just being their apostasy end, not “the end of the world” yet. It is just a smokescreen, to sell their downfall to JWs, AS IF it is the end, way way way TOO SOON. (2Thess2:1-2)

Jerusalem Exile=Destruction? 607 BCE versus 586 BCE Dating—All’s Good! All’s Well, Couldn’t Be Better!
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/11/17/607-bce-versus-586-bce-dating-alls-good-alls-well-couldnt-be-better/

“Seven Times” Updates Coming—”Appointed Times of the Nations” Reconsidered, Again
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/12/29/seven-times-updates-coming-appointed-times-of-the-nations-reconsidered-again/

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[QUOTE who=”I will answer”]TJW, Do you actually think your ministry is on this forum? Do you think you are swaying minds here? All that happens here is bickering. I don’t like to say the cold hard truth but you are not making any sense on here. If you are anointed whether or not that is true I don’t believe you should be here wasting your time serving the interests of Christ on a bickering forum.
You know very little about me yet you seem to have concluded a certain view of me. Yet you have no idea of what I really know. All I will say is there is always another side of the story that side you will never know. To make hasty judgments is unwise. It really comes down to that. [/QUOTE]

The web is a great “territory”, twice as big as China. That is why they have JWs walking empty neighborhoods, to keep them off the most effective territory, of all time.

Instead, Bethel provides the dirt, for the external opposers to spread far and wide on the web. By not knocking on one single door, the enemy is able to stumble MORE PEOPLE BY USE OF THE WEB, than JWs have EVER “brought into the truth”.

And Bethel hypocrisy, scandal and apostasy, is their NUMBER ONE Web Weapon of Mass Stumbling.

On the Web, every “witness” is as good as 100 to 1000 reading eyes. And that is why the enemy at Bethel, keeps JWs OFF THE WEB, while the enemy uses it to broadcast Bethel’s sins global.

Ignoring the Web, also brings JWs into but more sins of omission and negligence. Like Jonah, who pulled the same stunt, God will toss JWs overboard into the sea. That is when JWs will wake up, as did Jonah, and they will be there 3 years, not 3 days, but it too is to be a sign. (Dan8:14; Hos6:1-3; Isa37:30-32)

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> If we keep extending Jesus message, even if it is hi-jacked and called false
> prophesy or mental illness, the message is under Jesus direction and He will
> remove satan and his prphets by removing what is important to them and that is
> MONEY. Claiming Jesus and His servants are possessed by demons, mentally ill,
> and false prophesy IF they lose their MONEY on top of that being part of the
> prophesy so that satan nor his prophets have the means to support or finance
> their beliefs. I understand the process of rebooting Jesus Church and removing
> the disgusting thing that causes desolation is utmost priority to the cause.
> The disgusting thing that causes desolation in the holy places, imo, which is
> more than one thing. It can be an army like NATO and it can be satan’s
> anti-Christ placed as leaders of God’s temple like the GB. It is also 666 the
> image that illuminated to the whole world mostly out of Jesus temple. It is the
> tentacles of satan and BTG his false prophets that touches the world to mark
> them with 666 as his seed, since this is the only way satan can make his seed
> is by projecting himself onto the world. God cannot allow this to continue
> because it is mind control. He must clean this up. It has to do with removing
> tyranny for salvation.
>
> Agape

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The first “Egypt” symbol, was an attack by God’s plagues, with a view to repent and submit, which affected Egypt’s “life style” and various idols, which of course always revolve around the form of money, power and megalomania of the day.

It is no accident deposing Egypt in “plagues” occurred before baptism into the “Red Sea”, for a new covenant. There is a “covenant of peace” that is unique in Ezekiel 34 and 37. That covenant is not the new covenant, or the kingdom covenant, or any of the other covenants of the Bible. It is the one the “great crowd” passes into, as Egypt of the future is also deposed by plagues. The “Red Sea” is passing through the GT and that “blood” to come from that Revelation 14:17-20 “winepress”.

The first four plagues of Revelation 16, are the context of the nation-state “Egypt” downfall, into subservience to the NWO. Its “money” is all fiat and debt based “currency”, and that will be plagued. But the NWO prints “money” from thin air, they want it to crash, for the next global currency “solution” however they may manifest it. They already have 70% of hard assets, many times the Global World Product in “hidden” and known Gold, and they own that debt.

The national system “plagues” are intended as they were in Egypt, for repentance, even if many do not repent as in Rev16 and Rev9.

(Revelation 16:8-11) 8 And the fourth one poured out his bowl upon the sun; and to [the sun] it was granted to scorch the men with fire. 9 And the men were scorched with great heat, but they blasphemed the name of God, who has the authority over these plagues, and they did not repent so as to give glory to him. 10 And the fifth one poured out his bowl upon the throne of the wild beast. And its kingdom became darkened, and they began to gnaw their tongues for [their] pain, 11 but they blasphemed the God of heaven for their pains and for their ulcers, and they did not repent of their works.

(Revelation 9:20-21) 20 But the rest of the men who were not killed by these plagues did not repent of the works of their hands, so that they should not worship the demons and the idols of gold and silver and copper and stone and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk; 21 and they did not repent of their murders nor of their spiritistic practices nor of their fornication nor of their thefts.

The fact the failure to repent is noted, shows the divine intent is to “rock the nations” so that some will repent. (Hag2:7)

Though those plagues are different, they are all in the Revelation first six plague context. But by the time it is getting to the 5th and 6th plagues, the 7th King will be nearing total takeover.

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You are right, the money, power and other typical high level greed of the nation state rulers, must be affected by the final “sword stroke”, as God allows it, and it defines his “plagues” to wake some people up, while bringing a partial judgment on the national systems, globally. It is not the end, but it will be humiliations, just as with Pharaoh, the King South capital leader symbol.

Nation-state “Egypt” will be hit HARD, but it will also be healed.

(Isaiah 19:22) . . .And Jehovah will certainly deal Egypt a blow. There will be a dealing of a blow and a healing; and they must return to Jehovah, and he must let himself be entreated by them and must heal them.

(Exodus 15:25-26) There He established for them a regulation and a case for judgment and there he put them to the test. 26 And he went on to say: “If you will strictly listen to the voice of Jehovah your God and will do what is right in his eyes and will indeed give ear to his commandments and keep all his regulations, I shall put none of the maladies upon you that I put upon the Egyptians; because I am Jehovah who is healing you.”

Now we know that “healing” is with the “sword stroke” healing”, BUT it is different in purpose. Its meaning is securing those human “desirable things” to come in. Thus, it also has a spiritual meaning, of people who come to understand, by the “rocking the nations”, that God is coming soon, in this process. Some will be moved to repent in the coming plagues, just as some Egyptians fled Egypt with Israel.

(Exodus 12:37-39) And the sons of Israel proceeded to depart from Rameses for Succoth, to the number of six hundred thousand able-bodied men on foot, besides little ones. 38 And a vast mixed company also went up with them, as well as flocks and herds, a very numerous stock of animals. 39 And they began to bake the flour dough that they had brought out from Egypt into round cakes, unfermented cakes, because it had not leavened, for they had been driven out of Egypt and had not been able to linger and too they had not prepared any provisions for themselves.

And they pass into Christ’s reign, by that same Reve14:14-16, Matt25:31-40, and Rev7:1-8 symbol of deliverance from the whole final thing, as that depicted in that deliverance from Egypt.

Agape

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