June 26 2015

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No I’m not. I’m just trying to work out who has the power and control. Can you tell me how the Governing Body members are appointed to their positions and is this constituted by any written legal authority?

Just a thought. Look at the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. The US cows who have not paid attention still believe constitutional government is in force, and that they have rights.

Well not according to numerous Obama Executive Actions, The Obama Plan, The Patriot Act and TPP. Now Obama is literally an empowered corporate dictator, the Department of the Teasury RUNS the government and the Federal Reserve will oversee all the former US Government controlled regulatories of the whole investment market, insurance system, and the mortgage system, residential and commercial—no longer the US Government.

The point is this is why there are globalist level legal experts. And this is why what lloks like one thing in the Constitution or a corporate charter, now has many new “loopholes” and mostly unknown but actual shells of greater authority.

And so with the Bethel corporations, the shadow boards are running all the big dollar, properties and assets plumbing into the big banks and the derivatives “safety net” trap. And Bethel is but on fish to fry, many corporations and national government sovereign systems are ALSO falling into this mega-spider web of highest level finance, requiring specialized legal and economic expertise to even basically understand it and to operate within that top tier plumbing system.

It is complicated so that like many US sleeping cows, who have no idea their pensions and commercial banks have now been LEGALLY vested into the investment bank network of funneling virtually any asset into Wall Street and derivatives, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON!

JWs are then just like them, they have no idea of the WTBTS real corporate wiring of the billions, and how the GB can just be the fall guy, or the legal target, to run the visible smokescreen part of the operation, and certainly they are just the front con men, not plumbing the transnational billions in JW assets into the globalist global derivatives and investment scam basket, now setting up for the global coup de grace on many target corporations, not just WTBTS. \

If it takes the Guardian to tell JWs about the still totally covert UN NGO partnership (as far as Bethel openly tellign all JWs about it plainly), it will also take the Guardian to inform JWs when they lose their billions in cash, assets and properties. JWs will be lucky to keep a single Kingdom Hall, that is how bad Bethel is set up internally.

Bethel JW government, like the EU or US nat’l governments is not going to just come out and tell JWs how the scam works.

And now when the 7th King nat’l governments fall, Bethel will fall with them, just another corrupt pea in the pod. And 8th King worl government, NOT “the end” but of Bethel and national sovereignty, will instead proceed to completion.

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Now think about this.While all this Bethel distracting scandal and maneuvering is going on, that above simple truth is what they are also concealing in this self same process!

Bethel is corrupted final apostasy signal lawlessness prior to temple judgment (Dan8:13-14) that manifests (Dan11:41) with the START of the 7th King, King South, national system downfall and global crisis that WILL resolve, in time, into said world government 8th King, King North.

THAT is why Bethel also hoodwinks JWs as to who King North obviously really is and must be: World Government. The “North Pole” of Globalized Sovereignty completed in time by this whole financial scam aiding element. (Dan11:42-43)


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Doesn’t it make sense that “in the days of those kings” the seventh world power would still be ruling, because the statue is broken off at its’ weak point, the feet of miry clay mixed with iron? They are the ones that set up the “image to the beast”, the UN, right? And make everyone worship? They put out the propaganda. and look all lamblike like “the lamb of God”- but speak like a dragon?

What many are not being made aware of, is the WHOLE Daniel 2 “immense image” also has a WHOLE meaning. The “feet and toes” are just part of the WHOLE development of world government.

And that WHOLE is also the WHOLE “scarlet wildbeast” 8th King, the 7th head is still present, BUT it is the WHOLE “scarlet wildbeast” that is the WHOLE 8th King WHOLE world government.

In Daniel 11:42-43:

(Daniel 11:42-43) And he will keep thrusting out his hand against the lands; and as regards the land of Egypt, she will not prove to be an escapee. 43 And he will actually rule over the hidden treasures of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt.

King South “Egypt” is NOT destroyed, “SHE” becomes subservient to King North, like a queen.

That is because the 7th King is also King South and the “feet and toes” totality of the WHOLE global NATIONAL SYSTEM, that becomes finanically subservient to that King North world government element, first, hence Daniel 11:42-43 has yet to climax as the US and UK, hence the whole EU, becomes pawned by the King North global banking and finance system:

When Central Banks Rule the World

And because Bethel will NOT explain the WHOLE meaning of the Daniel 2 WHOLE “immense image” as a WHOLE Global Government, people are not being made aware of the GLOBAL WHOLENESS of 8th King, King North, scarlet wildbeast, King Fierce in Countenance, that THEY ARE ALL: WORLD GOVERNMENT.

So, rather than be “the end” to cap off the JW smokescreen concerning this future WHOLE requirement of total world government, there is a WHOLE lot more to occur as the 7th King falls as subservient King South “she”.

The national system King South is merely made totally subservient to King North world government.

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

And that simple truth, is what this Bethel smokescreen is helping conceal,for now, but not forever. In time the truth comes out, and that is also why Bethel has to go down first, to allow the WHOLE TRUTH of world government to emerge into global awareness.


Good find, thanks, you made my day.

Now we know why it is called “hidden treasures” of “the gold and the silver”; “hidden” in that many do not comprehend the true gold magnitude out there:

(Daniel 11:42-43) 42 And he (King North globalists) will keep thrusting out his hand against the (national) lands; and as regards the land of Egypt (King South global national systems), she will not prove to be an escapee. 43 And he (KN globalists) will actually rule over the hidden treasures of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt. (KS global nation-state system)

Or, in another way of putting it, we are seeing surfacing how the “old world order” banking system “receivership”, goes into “new world order” totally securitized total global-gold control, and the forming basis of the NWO new global financial system.

That will NOT be an overnight affair, nor will it be smooth.

It will be a global crisis of “Biblical proportions” required to “birth” that NWO to true global implementation. (Dan11:45) That is the “tribulation of those days” phase, Matthew 24:29, coming up as “King South” goes into global receivership—for real—into “King North” world government, progressively completing in this coming process.

(King North is synonymous with 8th King in the Revelation 17:8-18 coming full process, taking several years to run. The UN will go impotent for a while (in the future), but re-emerge with that final culmination, however it may be “rebranded” for final form
as the world government political nucleus. What this is, here in this global gold development, and in Daniel 11:42-43, is the financial and wealth nucleus of world government. NATO is the military nucleus, and so on. Altogether, it is called World Government.)

You have provided very telling information; I did not know what Karen Hudes was talking about is ACTUALLY in progress. I did not know she is actually an IBRD Global Debt Facility TVM-LSM-666 active legal authority, and that this process appears to actually be in action, and has been, for several decades just waiting for “game day”.

Jade Helm is obviously prep for that “game day” some time in the future. BTW, it is NOT “the end of the world” or “doomsday”, it is a global transition into world government taking several final years, so don’t buy the “doomsday” hype; it will look like a true global crisis, but it will “heal” into world government as Revelation 13:3 (Rev13:15-18) and Revelation 17:8-12 must parallel into Daniel 11:44-45 culmination of world government.)

Any national “disruptions” (Luke21:9), global unrest and wars, merely AID the overall global receivership process.

Keep up the good work.



> The old material on strictly genteel is good read. The “The New World” refers
> some on the seven world powers in chap. 2 when Rutherford was president. Then
> Knorr nailed it with the “League of Nations” as the ABOMINATION that causes
> desolation” in “The Truth That Makes You Free”, chap. 26, p. 329-334. Knorr
> first refers to unfaithful Jerusalem as the ABOMINATION and those who sit in
> the “holy place” that is God’s earthly kingdom and rules in God’s place. Then
> he refers to the “League of Nations.” It seems he considered both the
> antiChrist and the ABOMINATION. He is referring to MOL and the LN as the ATCD.
> He was filled with Holy Spirit and if he were alive he would have preached it
> more than the GB who have been sleeping on the issues. He was clear it was
> satanic. The LN and UN is a bread and multiply for luciferians. I have watched
> both yt and the UN one is really the best I have seen. Fagan did that in the
> 60’s and was well informed then. Mullin and him are remarkable men. Thanks. I
> have watched them both twice. I am adding the founders to the UN to my 3rd
> manifesto. Very important the world knows. They may already be more informed
> than you or me. I can only hope.

Yes the stuff has been out there, and kept pretty hush hush from academia and religion, even as it has become an alternative news main theme.

Now if we look at Moses, he emerged in a root “masonic” environment, but rejected it. The whole context of the “civilization” in Egypt that the Jews were freed from was also highly saturated with the same masonic themes the IBSA emerged from.

So as with the golden calf, some things were dragged along and always became problematic to the Jews. Now I know Rutherford, Knorr and Fred Franz were on the “up and up” with God and Christ. And I know Russell has a similar past as did Moses, in that he emerged from a masonic saturated “house”, which had permeated the whole context of the “civilization” as well, in its political, philosophical and financial aspects, also saturating Christendom.

I feel they did have “plans” for Russell, and others, to warp them to the Zionist cause, and to continue a facade for the masons. But the reason I feel Russell, like Moses, “went rogue”, is because he did totally undermine the Christendom main masonic house of error. And I see no reason why the illuminati would undermine their main western world religious bastion of darkness.

And I fell they fely they lost total control of Russell, and that is why I feel they murdered him on Halloween, as a signal, because he also laid the way for their political bastion of darkness to be later undermined and exposed by Rutherford, aided by God, who like with Moses, did his own “infiltration” from the heart of the masonic operation, whether with Moses, or with Russell, and like Joshua, Rutherford just continued to lead the “Israelites” after the “exodus” from the Christendom “Egypt” bastions of masonic darkness.

I believe others erected that pyramid, and then tried to malign Russell BY IMPLICATION, by masonic family reproach, and by harping on a few errors, like Zion ideas and “stone witness” mason ideas, that would have taken time to dump, given the heavily saturated context of the WHOLE religious and political “civilization”.


But overall, Russell from the aid of others in the “Reformation” zeal of exposing the Papal system, did lay a “coup de grace” on Christendom, and no way would the Masonic liars in that system have blessed such an assault on their head western religious system.

By Russell and the anointed Christians heading into cleansed approval, the full exposure of the main blackholes in Christendom, in trinity, hell fire, immortal soul, and anti-sacrificial teachings, was fully set in concrete, to form a solid foundation so that Rutherford could move into prophetic details, while reinforcing the Christendom error exposure and alliance exposure, but progressing into deeper prophecy.

And because HUGE prophetic interpretation changes occurred under Rutherford, that needed to reflect the Anglo-American update, and especially nailing the League of Nations as no innocent affair nor Godsend, but KEY PROPHECY, Russell’s death also worked into God’s purpose, even though it was a negative development from the enemy system. It allowed any potential Russell delays in making GIANT changes to his prophetic attempts, to be removed, yet retain the foundational NEEDED exposure of the main, core, primary, Christendom debilitating errors.

Those seemingly little things in Christendom, are not little in how they caused a great obstacle in perceiving the purpose of the God’s Kingdom and especially the Messianic Kingdom of Christ as the “earth bound” sovereign entity that will go head on with the Masonic and “illuminator” coUNterfeit.

The useless Christendom foundation has been bulldozed by God and its rubble has been globally exposed, even if not literally, it is done, and the “rebar” steel in the new foundation to emerge from Russell BASICS, to cap off what the Reformation attempted to do, allowed the concrete of prophecy and God’s PURPOSE, to be poured into a base foundational supporting truth “grid of steel” in the basic truths of God and Christ’s nature, relationship and purpose of true “Kingdom”, that Russell did champion in very driven and voluminous form of writing and physical and “unrighteous riches” promotions.

There is no way, imo, God would have blessed an undercover Satanist in this manner, and the things of true light that formed from his driven obsessed work, for what is the ONLY total exposure of the Christendom lie, and the globalists lies of nationalism and globalism, in one concentrated ministry, that merely needed to be properly reinforced, and consistently reminded what is REALLY going on here.


But as you know, now the Masonic Satanists have indeed slipped into the core of the JW ministry, to try to jackhammer all the hard work, the early brothers did, but God will guard that foundation, and complete what has been, and will be, finished UPON the same foundation…

(Zechariah 4:9) “The very hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house, and his own hands will finish [it].

…the total truth, of the total Kingdom reality summarized to the main point, the COMPLETION drive of temple, “holy city” and Messianic Kingdom, and the Christ arrival that briefly precedes total completion, but after the “abomination” is ALSO 8th King total “scarlet wildbeast” COMPLETE as well, for the Armageddon sovereign confrontation OF ALL TIME, the very thing the entire IBSA development was already getting at, as full fair warning, from that time.

It just needs to totally complete. BUT the Masonic resistance “in the temple”, must also complete to the point when God NO LONGER permits the “operation of error” and “the lie” to continue to cover up the foundational-to-completion required truth. And so, as it does come forth, it finishes the story (Rev10:5-11), as the abomination is also completing their global folly of rival rulership. It will all be set up for the real and total arrival of Christ and the eventual  climax Armageddon “war of the great day of God the Almighty”, just as spoken by anointed Christians in this brief 100+ year approximate final warning stage.

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You may think it was stupidity…..but for men that claim to be spirit-directed and be both FAITHFUL AND DISCREET….. they had a lot more than stupidity up their sleeves. It was more along the line of being UNfaithful, INdiscreet and deliberately hiding the truth about their rubbing elbows with the UN whom they taught JWs to look upon with total disdain.
THEY would most likely have never let this secret leak out and it took a journalist to blow the lid off their scam. How can anyone trust their credibility by now?

What the Bethel apostasy and UN “side covenant”, a true corporate covenant as an “approved” UN partner, does is SECURE an adverse action of God “in the temple”, because we have a “lawless one” claiming to be an approved anointed Christian authority, for instead a global reproach of the whole JW ministry and message.

Thus, they KNOW God ill give the WTBTS to the UN bed they chose, now they get to lie down in it, and it will be a signal prophecy (Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14) for true anointed Christians to fully understand AFTER it tially runs its Daniel 8:14 TIMING, and PHASING so the UNright condition, aided by Bethel’s befoulers, can become the “right condition” “in the temple” again.

Thus the whole anointed Christian ministry is not totally obliterated, but chastised heavily, globally, and prepared for the Messianic Kingdom COMPLETION proclamation of the “second witness” (Rev10:5-11), now becoming obvious as a “TWO witnessings” eventual FINAL round (Rev11:1-7) to disclose, admit, repent, apologize and properly inform people what has really happened in the now apostatized anointed Christian ministry, by lawless LEADERSHIP override.

AND what that means. We will be approaching world government, and Christ arrival, THAT is what this final apostasy to be judged BIG TIME, will mean for real, with plenty of “heads up” “get our ducks in a row” indications!

Now when Assyria was given Israel (Hos1:4-7; Isaiah 28, Amos, etc), due to a similar apostasy, they KNEW it was a given in [ISRAEL]. And they got Israel, as foretold by those prophets:

(Isaiah 36:10) . . .And now is it without authorization from Jehovah that I have come up against this land to bring it to ruin? Jehovah himself said to me, ‘Go up against this land, and you must bring it to ruin.’”

BUT God DID NOT give the Assyrians Jerusalem! And the same with Bethel. WTBTS, JW org, WILL be given to the modern Assyrian, but God will NOT give them global Jerusalem in chastised anointed Christians and JWs, and the same angel will go out, in covert form, to prove it again.

(Hos1:4-7, Micah5:5-6, Isa31:8-9, Isa36-37;)

That is how the “angel of the covenant” comes into the temple, FIRST, to clean out the “lawless one”:

(Isaiah 66:6) . . .There is a sound of uproar out of the city, a sound out of the temple! It is the sound of Jehovah repaying what is deserved to his enemies.

That is an anti-666 prophecy, so to speak, from UN infected 666-ready “city” up at Bethel’s visible epicenter, to aid recognition later. (Matt22:1-14)

The point is the JW org will go down, global JWs and others accepting the discipline and humility and required disclosure, will be spared to aid carrying out a far clearer and clean final OPEN SALVATION CALL GLOBALLY, prior to Christ’s arrival.

NOT that “eye of the needle” so-called “salvation message” from remorseless high and mighty Bethel and deluded JWs, but a HUGE ANYONE WILLING CAN BE SAVED for this ENTIRE period of global crisis “tribulation of those days”,a nd EVEN AFTER Christ arrives as per Revelation 14:1-7:

(Revelation 14:6-7) . . .And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

THAT is GOOD NEWS being finished properly by Mighty God Christ, for Almighty God as the focus, BY HOLY ANGELS at GLOBAL SCALE of every square foot of planet earth, TO SAVE PEOPLE [[FIRST]], BEFORE Christ lays the wildbeast low.

THAT is how BIG the salvation opportunity and guarantee coming is for ANYONE! And CHRIST HIMSELF and the whole Kingdom of God and Messianic Kingdom will ensure, it is global in perfect power to assess and save ANYONE who can be saved; ANYONE, not just a group of self righteous JWs, who by then, will be greatly humbled and no longer carry the Bethel “bad attitude”.

Bethel going down, BROADENS the final salvation message and truth with a high profile judgment and exposure of their UN sins and apostasy as proof God launders JWs, in public view, to open the bigger salvation message to come, later, with great heavy duty evidence, to complete the prophecy that can be taken farther than stalled Bethel, and the world government rival, will also become more vocal of global intent.

It all adds up to many people understanding, yes, they will trigger the Christ of God, and God Almighty himself, when they totally complete their global 8th King abomination, as foretold. THEN Christ can arrive to secure sheep first, and he can be very thorough, because he has bought all the merchandise anyways, and who that can be made to see, will not believe an angel of Christ right in their face, bringing that “EVERLASTING good news” of of Revelation 14:6-7 as a FRIEND? So even many “unbelievers” for now, will become “believers” right quick.

And they are so newbie in “sheep” state, they are the ones who ask, when did we see you naked? Huh? They have NOT even read Matthew 25! THAT is how new they are to the whole thing!

Now WHY play that Bethel “we are so holy” pure bull routine and cover up the BIG SALVATION MESSAGE?

Because they are the “lawless one”, “in the temple”, befouling the anointed Christian reputation and reality, with any JW associated with that modern abomination aiding fiasco (Matt24:15); but not forever.

The BIG SALVATION GOOD NEWS will instead come forth, on Bethel’s rubble, with great evidence of the final propehcy and world development events that precede Christ GUARANTEED arrival:

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

That SIMPLE truth is what Bethel now totally undermines.


BRICS: King North World Government “4th Leg” Financial System

There is a little more to the BRICS “4th quadrant” central banking requirement BEFORE world government completes as total 8th King “King North”, than meets the eye.

“King North” captures (Dan11:42-43) the whole “King South” global national system. King North cannot be a national bloc like Russia and China, but a total globalized world government of ALL OF THEM, hence Revelation 17:11-18 parallels Daniel 11:44-45; Dan12:11.

The “USSR is King North” error is ultimately insignificant. (see Daniel 11:36, the USSR “failed” totally, KN is “successful”) Nor did bankrupt USSR actually fulfill Daniel 11:42-43, or anything in Daniel 11:27-45, other than “and nothing will succeed” of Daniel 11:27b.

The same kind of King North ownership development (Dan11:42-43) is also present internationally, to do the same thing to the US/EU, and Russia and China, etc. BRICS just finishes the “four legs” of financial world government preparations for total national system capture.

So the (1) Fed/London complex, through its corporate complex, will run the US for the world government boys. (2) BIS does the same thing for Europe, ECB tied in there as well, and the (3) IMF World Bank nailed the developing “Third World” countries. (4) BRICS will just complete the Russian and China Asian sector, India sector of “sheltered” ownership.

BRICS is a handy “reserve tank” to ensure world government has all it needs to guide the 7th King “King South” downfall phase. It is not “the end”, it is the 7th King King South system, transitioning to 8th King King North world government as Daniel 11:42-43.

Very simple. And yet very global. At the same time.

King South is ALL the nation-state falling systems globally, King North is the final globalization of world government (Rev16:13-16)—simple, but also truly global in scale.

Easy peasy, Japaneasy!

King North is OBVIOUSLY world government.

No need to beat around the bush any longer on that matter, as if it is all “such a big big mystery brothers!”. There is no mystery, it is GLOBAL GOVERNMENT, King NORTH sovereign pinnacle.

That is why the 7th King falls BEFORE the total 8th King King North “rise” into world government as Daniel 11:42-45 and Revelation 17:8-12 parallel in final form.

BRICS is just the “4th quadrant” of the financial world government of Daniel 11:42-43 coming up next, and Bethel is right, they will be “invaded by the Assyrian” as Daniel 11:41, next.

(Not the expected Daniel 11:44 next, but Daniel 11:41 “Assyrian” attack of the JW org, as Bethel well expects and tells JWs to expect.)

But it is not quite “the end” yet. (Matt24:6; Luke21:9)

The UN “image” is just the [political sector] of world government, it must ALSO fully complete in the global financial sector as well. (Dan11:42-43) And that is what the 7th King, EU financial meltdown will fall into: 8th King, King North, TOTAL world government.

Then BTG is deposed. (Hence Revelation 17:15-18 at that “world government” “one hour” time of Revelation 17:12)

As Bethel indicates in WT 7/15/2015, they do go down next, as they tell JWs to “expect the attack of the Assyrian” “at that time”. But it is not quite “the end” yet. (Luke21:9), and it will take several final years to fully “ascend” a true mega world government, and its final world “peace” proclamation that must come under full 8th King world government. (1Thess5:1-3); That is the Daniel 8:25 “freedom from care” as that same global “peace and security” of total world government final sovereign claim.

The 7th King fall, just aids the process.


It is pretty easy to see now.

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes.

That takes several more years.

It is that simple folks. The 7th King goes down next, and it is NOT “the end”, it is 8th King final “rise” of Revelation 17:8-12 into “one hour” TOTAL world government.

1 Peter 4:17 will apply, as to why Bethel is given to the “Assyrian” as they have rightly expected and told JWs to that effect. But it aint quite “the end” so fast. (2Thess2:1-2) A whole lot must yet complete.



Interesting that the (2) “witnesses”, times 1260 days, equals 2520 DAYS of a similar “holy city” “trampling”:

(Revelation 11:2-3) . . .But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.”

And that second 1260 days, for a second Kingdom witness, the Messianic Kingdom of Christ entity yet to complete, cross relates Daniel 7:25, 12:7, and Revelation 13:5, and Rev12:14.

No other timed period in the Bible provides such a “time signature” of cross related global events key prophecy.

So it appears there really is to be TWO “witnessings” as to TWO Kingdom developments leading to world government, which must also complete the 8th King total globalized “abomination”.

And the stage is thus set for the final global milestones that lead to the final Armageddon global confrontation (Rev16:13-16 completing globalization), with that co-completing Messianic Kingdom of Christ concurrent final progression to TOTAL Christ arrival, the to be “Kingdom of the World”:

(Revelation 11:15) . . .And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”

Thus, it now appears, Revelation also has TWO fulfillment cycles, with each of those TWO witnessings, (1914-1919, Witness 1; and the future, Witness 2, 2520 days, “seven times” complete), and it completes the 2520 DAYS, and “seven times” in final form in that final SECOND process of “Kingdom witnessing”, of the full permission of “holy city” trampling, related to that 2520 years, for now obvious reasons:

(Luke 21:23-24) For there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people; 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.

It just projects the future Revelation 11:2 final SECOND “trampling” of the “remaining ones of her seed” “second witness” to the future, and the full “sevens” completion in the Bible. Seven times, seven trumpets and seven plagues.

We do not know “the day or the hour”, but we will know the progression of those seven trumpets and plagues, in final fulfillment, when they are most useful, before world government completes, while en route to world government and thus Christ arrival. (Rev13:5-7; Rev11:7)

THAT much we can know, we can know the 1260 days that precedes 8th King TOTAL world government.

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

To kick it off (1Pet4:17), that is how we know the preparatory temple judgment timing, to deal with the Bethel apostasy obstacle of this “second witness”, is Daniel 8:13-14, and its timing and phasing to the “right condition” of the anointed Christian ministry, prior to that “SECOND witness” “little scroll” finale of it all.

(Revelation 10:6-7) “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

It just REPEATS, a second time, TWO times total. “Seven times” as 2520 days of full global invitation and Kingdom warning.


Repeating Cycles: The Whole Prophecy Repeats Starting With The Temple Judgment Portion


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It is the eighth king, not world power. It gains its kingship when all the nations grant it their power in attacking Babylon the Great.


But OBVIOUSLY the 7th King must fall, next, not BTG.

That is why it is King 8, and nations giving their sovereign kingdom to world government (Rev17:11-18), is the end of that process.

And that is when BTG goes down (Rev17:15-18), and why it is a 6th-to-7th plague FUTURE development paralleling Revelation 17:8-18 and Revelation 16:12,19-20.

Because when the 7th King nation-state system FALLS, the UN has to also go to the “abyss” a final time, to arise in final form, as TOTAL WORLD GOVERNMENT. (Rev17:8-12)

It merely REPEATS the core prophecy.

And why the “whole world admires” world government parallels the “admiration” of Revelation 13:3 and Revelation 17:8.


JW Preview

What the “first witness” JW ministry has done, is successfully made all these first patterns understandable for the final round of said propehcy preview of Revelation, and that is why there is a “second witness” to come in the future.

There really are [[TWO]] “witnesses”, because JWs well know there are TWO KINGDOMS.

1. God’s Kingdom, proclaimed 1914-1919 onward, “witness” 1.

2. Christ’s Messianic Kingdom “stone cut from a mountain”, YET TO COMPLETE! And that similar Kingdom proclamation is “witness” 2…



Now this is no rocket science, NOR does one have to be a “prophet” to see this easily summarized DUAL truth, and wisdom of God as to why it fulfills TWICE.

So that people can put 1 and 1 together and come up with 2.

TWO witnessings, because there are TWO Kingdoms in the Bible! And each has a certain period of manifestation.


All the world has to do is topple the 7th King [national] system, and get on with total [globalized] 8th King WORLD GOVERNMENT, and that will be all she wrote. (Rev16:13-16)

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

It is THAT simple.


And that is what simpleton apostate Bethel is “set in opposition” to, so no one puts 1+1 together for modern JWs, who have to, eventually, join the “second witness”, after Bethel is deposed first, as per 1Peter 4:17, and Daniel 8:13-14 as Daniel 11:41 coming up. (Zech3:4-5; Rev8:3-5)


It is NOT yet time for Daniel 11:44-45 under full world government.

It is time for Daniel 11:41 coming on the global JW organization “trampling” coup, by the real King North, forming 8th King world government architects parallel. (That is why Bethel also conceals that the real King North is obliviously world government. They are in on it WITH KN, hence Daniel 11:32a)

The SECOND of the 1260 days is coming, for 2520 Days TOTAL “seven times” as Reveltion 11:2.

JWs should know what the “seven times” concept means. 2 witnesses times 1260 days, is seven times, 2520 days, permitted anointed Christian “holy city” trampling.

It can get no simpler, that is how simple it really is.

A final warning will emerge from the Bethel downfall, who goes down as the 7th King STARTS to also fall, but takes longer obviously, than the JW org.

I just ask people who doubt this now, to pay attention to Daniel 8:13-14 “at that time” (WT 11/15/13, pg. 20, par. 17, #3)

EVEN BETHEL is telling JWs the Bethel JW org are going down!

They are just not telling JWs why they are going down, apostasy, and were we REALLY are in prophecy!

The 7th Kign has yet to fall, that is where we are, and so does Bethel, it is their “the end”, not that of the world system, which still has to recover from 7th King fall, into 8th King rise into world government, hence parallel Revelation 11:7 and Revelation 17:8-12, in the future, again.

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

Get it? AGAIN! Shoot! The prophecy explains itself!

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***Satanic goal, the language confusion just delayed the process ***
Would you accept that the internet age is **man’s ** world wide common language (Communication ) currently ?
The common binary language is possibly the reverse of Babel, to some degree. Complete control of that means of communications in the wrong hands would not be pretty ! [/QUOTE]

“Google Translate” is trying to reverse the barrier, in effect.

The “Tower of Babel” is a techno-tower, world government is totally reliant of super computing and AI.

The Genesis 6 demon bred “giants” are now corporations.

The global media massive expansion will speed up the process of idea insertion, and maturing things in the human mind. Not all of it is “bad”, but altogether it will work to the NWO goal, one way, or another.

But with Babylon it has two symbologies in the Bible.

1. Babylon is a masculine “head of gold” symbol of world government “head”, the Nimrod core.

2. Babylon “the Great” is a feminine subservient symbol, though “she has a kingdom over the kings of the earth”.

But under world government, only one Babylon sovereignty will prevail, the masculine. In the process the BTG “harlot” aids world government, by that divisional confusion, divide, then conquer.

That is why in the global sovereign convergence of Revelation 17:11-18, BTG is deposed in Revelation 17:15-18 during that final world government process of absorbing the national sovereigns as they “give their kingdom to the scarlet wildbeast” world government.

Then the TOTALITY of the Daniel 2 “immense image” of an implied masculine form, is in WHOLE, WHOLE world government composed of the parts of the global system.

Rather than tell people that, Bethel keeps JWs focused on the “feet and toes”, how many “toes” are there brothers? Hmmmm… blah blah.

The goal is to NOT summarize the WHOLE Daniel 2 “immense image” is WHOLE world government. And so is the WHOLE “scarlet wild beast” the WHOLE world government 8th King.

King North and King of Fierce Countenance are all the same thing: 8th King WHOLE world government.

Just as the world’s sovereignty will CONVERGE into WHOLE World Government, so too ALL those sovereign prophecy symbols ALSO CONVERGE into the WHOLE world government global WHOLE.

Obviously Bethel does NOT actually study the Bible, except to know what simple final truths to CONCEAL from modern JWs.

They also ignore globalization and modern global developments as well, because globalization (Rev16:13-16), is the main global force to form that global WHOLENESS, which completes into world government, in time.

Everything Bethel now does is to INSTEAD sell JWs “the end” PREMATURELY, to sell the required 7th King national system downfall, AS IF it is “the end”.

It is NOT “the end”, it is the final developmental global crisis cycle to aid the completion of the WHOLE 8th King rise into WHOLE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Bethel’s “set in opposition” task (2Thess2:3-4) is to use that premature end delusion of 2Thess2:1-2, to keep JWs distracted from the WHOLE world government requirement in prophecy and the final global developmental cycle to accomplish it.

Thus Bethel can “end” instead, and they just keep selling it to JWs as the total end in error, and just scatter JWs to figure it out later. That will derail and delay JWs in that bewildering process.

THAT is the goal. Crash the JW org, cancel the JW minsitry, and toss JWs overboard with nary a clue as to what is REALLY going on, and that it will be en route to that 8th King rise into whole world government.

It is ALL a “big mystery” to JWs that King North is OBVIOUSLY world government, and that aids the big mystery everything is now, to JWs. They listen to the GB, the GB misleads them for King North, plain and simple.

JWs have NO IDEA world government must complete. And that, BEFORE Christ arrives. JWs are in the dark.

[QUOTE who=”pikachu”]

“Insight” 1988 WTBTS (“Generation”)

I am not quite sure what you are getting at.

The Final Adamic “Generation”: Eventual World Judgment

What I know is a world judgment “generation” of “sheep” and “goats” is a true final global “generation”.

The 7th King required downfall (Dan11:42-43; Rev13:3), to 8th King world government final rise into “ascension from the” coming “abyss” state of the UN plunge, (Rev17:8-12) is what will lead to “this [Adamic] generation” eventually “passing away”, because the “sheep” come into Last Adam, the goats are cut off.

“This generation” is present, of course it does not pass away immediately, but is there for the world judgment and “standing before the son of man”, for better, or for worse, it will not “pass away” until world judgment completes. (Rev17:9-18; Rev14:14-16; Matt24:31-40)

It is an Adamic “generation” that truly is “passing away” in this key transition into Christ Messianic Kingdom completion:

(Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the WORLD did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”
Christ is not talking of a little “hourglass” “generation” to try to determine the approximate “time of the end” of “the last days”, he is talking the WORLD Adamic “generation” that sees all these things in FINAL FORM. 1914 WW1 and onward is just a “preview”, the “last days”, what is coming is the unique “time of the end” of the “last days”.

That being the case, “all these things” will PEAK with the coming fall of “King South” (Dan11:42-43), synonymous “7th King” [national] “old world order” system based on independent [national] sovereignties, falling into globalized world government sovereignty (Rev17:11-18) or the “King North” “8th” “King” final true meanings:

WORLD GOVERNMENT—hence it has yet to also complete. (Dan11:45; Dan8:25)

The UN is just the “image”, world government is the whole thing. The “scarlet wildbeast” total “8th” “King” is the UN political sector “image” [[AND]] its financial (Dan11:42-43) and military (Joel3:9-12; Rev16:13-16) sector, TOTAL WORLD GOVERNMENT monopoly counterparts—AS ONE WHOLE GLOBAL-SOVEREIGN COMPLETION. (1Thess5:1-3; Rev17:12 “one hour”)

We have a FAR MORE reliable “Christ arrival gauge” than tracking the health of the last 100 year old anointed sister, which anointed generation Bethel ignores and derides anyways.

The whole prophecy repeats, THIS is out “hourglass to Christ arrival”: Revelation 8-11 and Revelation 16 in FINAL FULFILLMENT cycle form coming up.

Future Seven Trumpets

(Matthew 24:34-35) Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words (the prophecy) will by no means pass away. (it will totally complete and finish; Rev10:5-11)

In Matthew 24:34 Christ is not talking of a little “this generation” “old anointed” “hourglass” to try to determine the approximate “time of the end” of “the last days” because we have the final cycle of the “seven trumpets” and the parallel “seven plagues” to also but begin with the 7th King required downfall. Those things will tell us the gauging to Christ arrival details.

(In hindsight, the “this generation” Bethel waffle-job is just a needless distraction and stumbling block.)

Those first of the seven trumpets (Rev8:7-12) and plagues (Rev16:1-9) is to define for us the “tribulation of those days” (Rev16:1-9; Hag2:7; Matt24:29) and the GLOBAL PEAKING ZENITH of that Matthew 24 (Mark13, Luke21) “composite sign”, as total coming GLOBAL CRISIS (Rev13:3), to climax in the very things, global prophecy and world development MILESTONES, that lead to 8th King world government, then Christ arrival, as per Matthew 24:29-31, for world judgment on “THIS [global Adamic] generation”.

As we see the “tribulation of those days” naturally runs its full course, EVEN BEFORE the Christ “sign of the Son of Man” is even seen, BEFORE Christ even arrives:

(Matthew 24:29-30) Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days…THEN the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven. . .

(Matthew 24:29-30) Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days (7th King downfall)…THEN the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven. . .(Rev11:11-12)

Future Final Timed Periods

God also has another more reliable “gauge to Christ arrival” approximate.

And we have Daniel 8:13-14 timed temple judgment as Revelation 8:3-5 final trumpet cycle (3.19 years, “the evening” phase; Dan8:26), and the 1260 days parallel of Daniel 7:25, 12:7; Revelation 11:2-3, 13:5, 12:14 FINAL 1260 days to precede world government (Rev11:7-10) which triggers Christ arrival (Rev11:11-12), thus a full final warning at least 1260 days prior to Christ arrival. (due to that “3.5 “day” “two witnesses” “death state”).

And all those milestone timed periods, Daniel 8:14 temple judgment coming, and then 1260 days eventual final warning secured from that final “house” cleansing (1Pet4:17; Zech3:4-5), ALL LEADS to the 1290 days of full world government and Christ full arrival, NOT TO DESTROY THE 8TH KING YET, but to secure global sheep FIRST. (Matt24:31-40; Rev14:14-16)

Then the end will come (Matt24:14), the good news of the Kingdom is complete (Rev10:5-11) as to God’s eventual “second witness” 1260 day finale standards (Rev11:2-3) as FUTURE FINAL WARNING, not today’s Bethel deluded JW illusions of “all done”, “it is simply the end brothers!” as apostate Bethel now deludes JWs to fulfill 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 plain as day with the Bethel premature end delusion.

(2 Thessalonians 2:2) as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. (Bethel is our new “lawless one” and modern “befouled” (Zech3:3) prophecy hijackers; (Dan11:32a; Dan8:12b)

The final apostasy, as shown at Bethel, is now among a now rejected anointed Christian JW ministry (Zech3:1-3) due to UN NGO, UN cover up, King North cover up, and other transgressions, hence Daniel 8:12 JW subversion, and Daniel 8:13 temple judgment indictment, and it all happened at Daniel 11:3031a, en route to UN 3rd placement of 1990, as Daniel 11:31b, as Bethel is that apostasy in Daniel 11:32a.

Temple Judgment First Milestone

Thus Daniel 11:41 is what is coming upon Bethel, and they are trying to sell that “trampling” (Dan8:13-14) to JWs as if “Daniel 11:44 is next brothers!”. Except King North is world government, the USSR did NOT fulfill any KN prophecy, and they did NOT fulfill Daniel 11:42-43 which is the 7th King financial downfall, to secure KN global gold, wealth and asset control.

Thus Daniel 11:41 is next, as Daniel 8:13-14, Revelation 8:3-5; and so begins the seven trumpet initial salvo of all of Revelation 8-11, repeating in final form with the final world government portions of Revelation 13 and 17:8-18.

This world now present and knowing about this whole ministry of the JW Kingdom message, now subverted by apostate GB and impostors, is “this generation” that will not fully pass away, until all these things in finale form, now converge to nation-state downfall, world government, triggering Christ arrival, and world judgment to the last human on planet earth.

THAT is “this generation”, and you can look around to see it. It STARTS soon, it does NOT end for several more years.

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

APOSTATE BETHEL is the hijacked apostasy (2tHESS2:1-4) that could explain this just as clearly, but they do not (Dan8:12b), so they go down FIRST as per 1 Peter 4:17, and Daniel 8:13-14 as Daniel 11:41. Daniel 8:13-14 is timed to prove it to JWs and others AFTER that Daniel 8:14 timing and phasing from current profane “unright condition” (Zech3:3), to the temple anointed “right condition” is met. That in itself takes a few years. (Hos6:1-3; Isa37:30-32; Dan8:14; Matt12:39)

JWs get a 3.19 year modern “sign of Jonah” in the “pit of the abyss” of final fulfillment Revelation 9:1-4 disapproval, UNTIL that 3 years accounting is complete, then “the morning” of Daniel 8:14 proceeds, as that “abyss” and is opened so JWs see the light of recovery, and the world sees the smoke of the temple judgment first milestone en route to eventual world government and Christ arrival, as the 7th King will take some years to totally fall, as King South stuck in Daniel 11:42-43 global financial and economic massive global downfall global crisis.

Hence the “tribulation of those days” will ALSO be beginning with the Bethel downfall signal of temple judgment also beginning. The seven trumpets and timed prophecies are all one will need, along with major progressive global milestone of world government completion, to know how close Christ arrival is. We do not need to gauge the lifespan of anointed Christians, with some fictional requirement they were in WW1.

We need to PAY ATTENTION to key prophecy! NOT the apostate GB! They are not anointed, and they are UN NGO King North 8th King wildbeast  pals, as per Daniel 11:32a; Dan8:12. THEY are why JWs are in the dark now.


[QUOTE who=”FutureMan”]<quoted text>
Well that was a long winded assay to answer about the alien factor.
So what you seem to be suggesting here with all the wisdom you posses is that in all the universe of universes of which scientists have given an estimate of at least 200 billion galaxies and each containing millions of star systems in each that the only other species apart from us humans here on earth are related to demons taking on material bodies?
The Urantia book actually states that there are literally trillions of habitable worlds and many of them inhabited and not with demons taking on material bodies either, but evolutionary beings just like us here on earth, if you accept that at all, I do not know.
Anyway as I have said before we both differ in both our understanding of the universe and Ideology.
Basically you will not consider anything outside what you would call, God’s word the Bible but at the same to you hang on writings of others who have their own slant on how Bible prophecy is to be fulfilled as well as your own.
I do not know about how sincere ones like Alex Jones and the like are, but I do believe that are sincere for the most part but at times are being fed misinformation and even disinformation.
And so of course things become skewer-width as to understanding things as to world events and agendas.
You remind me of another person who runs the e-watchman site who also thinks that he has all the understanding of world events and prophetic interpretations and not giving credence to anyone else but himself.
Admittedly he does have a handle on some of the world affairs and past history, but he does not know everything. I believe him to be quite wrong in his understanding about the Kingdom of God, what it is exactly. I have crossed swords with him spiritually speaking a few times over the years.
His understanding of the Kingdom of God is very narrow to say the least and very literal as he believed that he is one of the 144,000 chosen to rule in Heaven and over earth.
Very JW-like of which he has not left behind just as it would appear with you as well, at least from my perspective anyway.
Is that you? Do you believe that you are one of the 144,000 chosen to rule over the Earth?

The point: Demon world government comes first. Get it?

Bilderberg, CFR, TLC, all those guys are the ones helping you guys build a world government first.

That is all I am saying. The counterfeit, of course, must arrive first.

How is it you cannot put that together?

You mean Robert King? You mean you cannot tell he is CIA/MI6 disinformation for wandering JWs? You cannot tell he is a Mason? You think he REALLY believes he is anointed? No, he is a pro op, imo.

What do you think the CIA does? All a “conspiracy”? LOL

You have much basics to catch on to here. And that is not meant as an insult, it means the basics are emerging. There are ways to tell if they are “CIA”-like disinformation. Bethel is also OBVIOUS TO THE CORE global intel subversion.

One way to tell global intel disinfo, is they keep certain “party lines” in tact. For example they ignore 911, bolster the official story, and proceed from there, for those sectors, like Bethel and King. Now if King cannot tell the anomalies and purpose of 911 and GWOT (as leading to EVERYTHING ELSE he talks about, duh..), think a person should trust his other “insights”?

But the truth is also there with King, as with Urantia, it is just used for other purposes. King sees a Bethel downfall. That is true. King sees a final world war phase, that is true. King sees massive “old world order” economic and financial collapse and transition; that is true. King sees a world government, true. King sees a final warning phase, and that is also true.

But even the CIA knows all those things are coming.

catching the “drift”? In time I guarantee it will get clearer, well before Christ arrival. Be patient, keep researching.

[QUOTE who=”LineCalier”]<quoted text>
Interesting interpretation. I could be on hindsight after Armageddon is over that we will see another fulfillment of the 1290 and 135 days. But I know of two fulfillments connecrted to the 2nd coming already, a natural Jewish one and a spiritual Jewish one.
I wrote a letter to the GB on November 10, 1992. I knew I was of the anointed and called myself “the watchman.” I knew I was a special prophet and was being guided by holy spirit as I wrote the letter. But as I was writing it, the next thing I knew, the GB was getting “disfellowshipped”! …

Thanks for sharing!

You’re welcome.

[[After]] the 1290 is when Armageddon finale occurs. Only “the happy” sheep enter Daniel 12:12 1335.

That can be proven by cross reference, because the 1260 days, prior to the 1290, cross links Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, Revelation 11:2-3, 13:5-7 and 12:14. In those prophecies is every needed testing criteria, linking ALL applicable prophecy “dots” to that framework.

That allows it to be FULLY tested for harmony.

From those dots, are details of Christ arrival after the 1260 days begins and expires fully. (Rev11:1-7)

Christ arrives in the 1290, when it has progressed for a brief period.

This is because the “two witnesses” death state of symbolic “3.5 days”, occurs after the 1260 has expired (Rev11:7-10), and is the last symbolic period in that “3.5 days” prior to Christ arrival, leading to Revelation 11:11-12 Christ arrival parallel.

(and thus the 1290 days is [active] for that “3.5 days” period portion to expire as well, as that two witness cessation is also the “constant feature has been removed”of Daniel 12:11. Christ arrives just after the 3.5 days expires, in the 1290 days.)

The Daniel 12:11 second criteria “place the disgusting thing” is of course full world government (Dan11:45 convergence), which Christ arrives after that world government “ascension” completion of Revelation 11:7 as well. (Rev17:8-12 parallel)

It is all there, and it “interprets” itself when we register the criteria properly, and filter the stuff that is out of harmony with the whole, based on cross referenceable criteria that must be in harmony.

And all the needed criteria is in that 1260 day to 1290 day portion, for obviosu reasons, it is 8th King King North world government and Christ arrival.

Christ is actually arriving, so of course the world will in time get a verifiable proof, already in prophecy, before he arrives. God must fully disclose reality to the world, prior to Christ arrival, and prior to world government that triggers him.

All the premature interpretations will eventually be burned out and fail, because God is taking it to the wire with Daniel 8:13-14 timing first, and thus the 1260 days, by the time it really begins, many of the premature guesses will have been exhausted. The rest go down in the 1260 days, because it WILL be a drawn out process just getting there.

God knows how to prove His own prophecy, and to tire out the guesses, and that is why this will go on for some more years, and to the very “skin of the teeth”, and in that process the guesses will fail in their prematurity. Time, will “filter” them out.

Of course many will understand when those things fail, and so they can catch on in the process to the reality, one day at a time, year over year.

In that way, God can appeal to as many people as can be reached (Rev14:6-7). Christ complete his own ministry (Matt10:23), because Revelation 14:1-16 is ALSO in the 1290 days. God just has to make it a drawn out affair, to remove the errors by failure.

That outline will pass the test of time. That is all I try to get some to consider now, and for that drawn out process of 7th King downfall, to 8th King global rise.

[QUOTE who=”the Mad JW”]Stepping into a Kingdom Hall, and listening to NON-‘outline’ Talks, where the same scriptures used incessantly are replaced with all the many OTHERS that exist! And the speakers head doesn’t bob up and down as he reads, (or half-reads) the same old outlines with the Tutsi and Hutu tribes, and all the other ilustrations/experiences used over and over and over and over….with the dry/generic intros of the outline.[/QUOTE]

I thought this at the last circuit assembly I went to. I used to like the talks, in 1989, it is true, but 23 years later I was like, I thought we already said this? Like way too many times by now, when there are HUGE global developments NOT being talked about.

It was like a time warp. And it started to dawn on me “something” has gone off course, it looks the same on the outside, but inside it has to keep repeating things over and over to avoid detection, so it all “looks and sounds the same”.

The outside appearance of the org is the same, it is the internal things that have changed.

Thus just repeating the past over and over, keeping JWs imbalanced in busy work and fretting if “are you doing enough?”, while changing NOTHING and maintaining ALL the main stumbling blocks, in this manner they can extend the ACT, to the end of the Bethel play, the real goal.

It is so stalled, it is now noticeable, and harder and harder to conceal as “spiritual food”, when it is left overs, over and over and over again.

They just must keep extending the act, a little while longer, OBVIOUSLY the so-called “Governing Body” is spiritually DEAD, and that is why this recycling is occurring, with not one new thing added but GB=FDS GARBAGE.

Now how did it occur the GB=FDS was such a pressign matter, while 25 years of TOTAL COMA has prevailed on EVERYTHING else? UN 1990, Global NATO, 911/Global War on Terror, 2008 global credit crisis, etc, etc.

How is it a “lifting themselves over every one” as the SOLE “faithful slave” in PUBLIC form such a pressing matter as to emerge out of the blue as if trying to fulfill 2Thess2:1-4 right in JW faces?

Because THAT is actually the reason: peak the blasphemy, right under JW noses, prior to the expcted JW org downfall, that they are also priming into JW heads as if “it is simply THE END brothers!” “well done!” “enter the joy of your Bethel masters!”

Well SELLING this premature end delusion, you know, the one at 2Thess2:1-2, is AIDED by this hypnotic coma of 25 years to a scratched record from Bethel. Obey, obey, obey, obey.

Obey what? And why? WHAT are the planning to tell JWs “at that time”:

“”Figuratively speaking, however, God’s people will flee to the refuge that Jehovah provides.”” (WT 07/15/2015, pg. 16, par. 7-8)WT quote (WT 11/15/2013, pg. 20, par. 17, #3):

“”Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered:…

[And sandwiched into the admonishment:]

(3) At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.

Obviously Bethel is planning to use the org, to herd JWs to capture.WT quote (WT 07/15/2015, pg. 16, par. 9):

9 This will not be the time to preach the “good news of the Kingdom.” That time will have passed. The time for “the end” will have come! (Matthew 24:14) No doubt God’s people will proclaim a hard-hitting judgment message. This may well involve a declaration announcing that Satan’s wicked world is about to come to its complete end.

They are HYPNOTIZING the brothers and sisters, THAT is the truth of all this Bethel “echo chamber” and total “house of mirrors” of the past FX.


(Isaiah 19:4) . . .And I will deliver up Egypt into the hand of a hard master, and strong will be the king that will rule over them,” is the utterance of the [true] Lord, Jehovah of armies.

You mean THAT “strong king”?

Ever wonder why Bethel OMITS that exact verse nearly ENTIRELY from the Isaiah Prophecy book I, verse by verse commentary?

***Isaiah’s Prophecy -1 chap. 15 p. 202 par. 28 Jehovah’s Counsel Against the Nations ***

“”Similarly, in the day of judgment, false religion will be unable to save this corrupt system. (Compare Isaiah 47:1, 11-13.) Eventually, Egypt came under “a hard master,” Assyria. (Isaiah 19:4) This foreshadows the bleak future facing this system of things.””

Because Bethel tells JWs everything BUT one world government certainty for a reason. They are the King North final apostates of Daniel 11:32a.

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Bethel is also omitting that little prophetic guarantee from the JW and world’s mind as well.

That is why Bethel goes down next, just like they are telling JWs. But they do not tell JWs why, do they? (Dan8:13-14 as Daniel 11:41)

And they do NOT tell JWs WHERE we actually are in prophecy. (Dan11:41-45)

King 8 Versus King 7—The New World Order to Capture the Old World Order


The entire thing MUST run its full global course before Christ arrives in Daniel 12:11 timing active.

JW Current Apostate Status and Final Temple Judgment – Web Witnessing Record; The Bethel Apostasy is Prophecy

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