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What We Can Now Fully Foretell

What We Can Now Fully Foretell

Because some now have ascertained from prophecy, or obvious criminal activity, that Bethel has indeed devolved into the final signal apostasy (Dan11:32a; Dan11:30-31) and its headquarters (2Thess2:1-4) of Jehovah’s witnesses ministerial override (Dan8:12), we have the “prophetic word made more sure”.

As per 2Thess2:1-2, then, it is no surprise instead of the temple judgment of Jehovah’s witnesses, and that first, JWs are expecting the “end of the world” and the “system of things” instead. JWs have now become predictable, by use of false and misleading prophecy, as spoken by the “stranger”, the wolves, up at the Bethel Criminal Racket of Apostates and Child Abusers, or, the “Governing Body” of Sin, for short.

1. Now we know there shall be “great tribulation”, but we know as per WW1, WW2 and Cold WW3, this is a preparatory phase to present the final World Government “Global Solution”. (Rev13:3) Of course at such level of completeness and global authority, Jesus Christ will certainly appear to offer retort “in a flaming fire”. (2Thess1:6-10)

We can foretell:

2. World Government will arise (Rev17:8-13) from the coming “great tribulation”. And this is why Christ does not arrive until AFTER the “the tribulation of those days” has run its course. (Matt24:29-31) And Christ arrives to complete the sheep gathering first (Matt24:31; Rev7:9-17; Rev14:1; Rev14:14-16; Matt24:31-40), NOT to immediately “end the world”. (Dan12:11)

3. Before such a globally and universally significant event, there will be, in time, a final “second witness” of the “two witnesses” global warning of course. (Rev8-11:1-7) We can now foretell that too, before it emerges.

We can also foretell it will be in the “right condition”, because this Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses coming up (Dan8:13-14; Dan11:41-43 context, which will trash, trample and loot Apostate Bethel of everything, and it will cleanse this badly off-course “house of God” (1Pet4:17), that is the derailed anointed Christian ministry. But Beth Hell will provide a global epicenter of the judgment trampling of Daniel 8:13 in the Daniel 11:41 global context of Bethel full blown invasion, gone global, full blown and visible.

Looks like Caesar will route the pedophiles and racketeers out of Bethel, for God, as God throws in some twists to make sure ALL the temple trespassers are neutralized, one way, or another. (Hos1:4-7; Rev9; Isa31:8-9, Mic5:5-7)

4. But we can foretell the final cleansed ministry, and its final warning (Rev10:5-11; Rev11:1-7), will also be ceased (Dan12:7; Dan12:11, Rev13:5-7), by full blown world government, a number of years after the stunning downfall of Apostate UN-NGO allied Bethel. (Dan8:14)

Because we have the “first witnessing” of 1914-1918, which went on fine until Bethel devolved into multi-billion-bean counting and skimming criminals and pedophile backers and packers, we can foretell the final cycle, from prophecy, upon the self-same first pattern of Revelation, BEFORE IT ALL MANIFESTS FULLY, GLOBALLY, AS FORETOLD.

The gist of the final warning message and open salvation offer to all (Rev14:6-7), is that 8th King World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Of course when the World Government Boys lay their grubby mits on this whole planet, they can expect a boot in the face, personally, from the blazing Christ of God. Choosing Christ’s Kingdom over the so-called “New World Order”, is how to be among the saved victors of that massive war with the full Kingdom Forces of the King of kings, then official in also complete Messianic Kingdom completion. (Rev14:1-8; Rev10:5-11; Rev16:17; Rev11:11-19)

Jot it down, plan accordingly.


Temple Judgment

The Total World Judgment “The Judgment” Begins With Jehovah’s Witnesses

Timed Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses – Daniel 8:13-14

Daniel 8:13-14 Details the Coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses


Temple Judgment to World Government to Christ Arrival

Babylon the Great Deposed Under World Government

The Governing Body Experiment—1944 to Present

The Governing Body Experiment—1944 to Present

Governing Body 1976

The “Governing Body” coup of 1976 is a purposeful development utilizing the 1944 introduction of the “governing body” idea (among JWs). The “idea” is that Acts 15 describes a “governing body” in some sort of supreme authority and perpetuity, which idea  is actually originally from Christendom, which self-same “rule by committee” concept and entity also played a guiding role in how that ship went well off course.

And if we notice in Acts 15, a “body” is not mentioned at all. In fact the SEPARATE entities of the emergency meeting were listed as apostles, older men, and even the “congregation” was involved in the decision:

(Acts 15:2) But when there had occurred no little dissension and disputing by Paul and Barnabas with them, they arranged for Paul and Barnabas and some others of them to go up to the apostles and older men in Jerusalem regarding this dispute.

(Acts 15:22) Then the apostles and the older men together with the whole congregation favored…

Now the point is the “itemized” “attendance list” was to established so that a “body” was NOT to be the outcome of this one time only meeting. No “body” is mentioned whatsoever, in fact the opposite, the authoritative components of the emergency session are listed, one by one, not a “body”. The idea of a body is superimposed later.

Even Christendom clerics of the Protestant bend, have also noted this distinction:

Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers (Acts 15:1-4)

“The reference of the question to the “Apostles and elders” is in many ways important. (1) As against the dogmatic system of the Church of Rome.”

And so the point is, while some used that distinction to argue against the Papal “body”, in time Christendom adopted this same “governing body” “synod” technique of ministerial control and eventual subversion as well, also using Acts 15 to do so, long before the WTBTS “board of directors” latest version of 1976:

Pulpit Commentary (Acts 15:2)

“”The apostles and elders. This phrase marks the constitution of the governing part of the Church of Jerusalem.””

Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges (Acts 15:2)

“”These with the elders appear now as the governing body of the infant church.””


The term “governing body” has only been used by the WTBTS since 1944.

1944— [[“governing body”]] Idea

Now we know what brother Rutherford thought about “board of directors” attempted takeovers since 1917:

***Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Divine Purpose (1959); pp. 70-71***

“”There he persisted in his efforts to persuade Rutherford to send him back to England so that he might make his position more secure. When Brother Rutherford refused, he sought assistance from the board of directors and finally persuaded four members to side with him in this issue by making it appear that Brother Rutherford was unfit to serve as president of the Society. Since the board of directors consisted of only seven men, this meant that now the majority of the board of directors had gone in opposition to President Rutherford, Vice-President Pierson and Secretary-Treasurer Van Amburgh. This put the officers of the Society on one side of the issue and the directors who were trying to wrest administrative control from the president on the other side.

TOM: How did they expect to do that?

JOHN: Their idea was to make the president’s position secondary to the board of directors and limit his authority to that of an adviser. That would have meant making a change in the corporation’s bylaws, and since it was a complete departure from the provisions of the original charter it warned of serious trouble ahead.

Throughout the entire administration of Pastor Russell, the president and the other officers of the Society had been the ones to decide on new publications; the board of directors, as a body, was not consulted. Brother Rutherford continued this same policy as he took up the new administration. “”

1944—governing body

So the point is it is very interesting the “governing body” idea, to cloak the WTBTS “board of directors”, resurfaced in 1944 AFTER Rutherford died on January 8, 1942:

*** w71 12/15 pp. 755-756 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation ***

“”The official magazine of Jehovah’s Christian witnesses is The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom. In the year 1944 the Watchtower magazine began to speak about the governing body of the Christian congregation.””

1971—Governing Body

And by 1971 they even “lifted up” the capitalization of their self-glorified title to “Governing Body”:

“”The Watchtower of December 15, 1971 was the first to unambiguously capitalize the term “Governing Body of Jehovah’s witnesses” as the defined group leading the religion, with a series of articles explaining its role and its relationship with the Watch Tower Society.””


And from that first 1971 “GB Title” “lift up” (2Thess2:3-4) the Governing Body error fully ” slipped in” (Jude4) AFTER Rutherford had died. At one time the “legal servant body” was the whole WTBTS corporation, no mention of Acts 15:

Let God Be True 1946

“”In 1884 the legal servant body of this international association was incorporated under Pennsylvania law. That non-profit corporation, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, and the governing body of Jehovah’s witnesses have been inseparably associated ever since.“”

See how they just slip it all in, as if it was all always there since 1884 (and back to Acts 15), in the then non-existent “governing body”, by such smooth association?

“… and the governing body of Jehovah’s witnesses have been inseparably associated ever since” [1884]

(And this in 1944-1946 two to four years AFTER Rutherford died?)

1976—Governing Body Coup

And yet that whole GB concept and entity, “slipped in” in 1944, is well before the Bethel coup stunt they pulled off in the 1976 WTBTS takeover of the JW ministry by takeover of corporate Bethel, to be run by a dictatorial “Governing Body” as if present since 1884, as if present since the first century in Acts 15 already common superimposition.

So by the time of the 1976 Governing Body total power coup, Fred Franz had this to say:

“”The vice president said he too thought the two organizations were going to run parallel (per-haps like Antioch and Jerusalem?) and said: “I never had in mind what the Governing Body wants to do now.” [(in being a collective dictatorship)]

Fred Franz:  “”…went on to say that he had not been in favor of the [(GB)] change then and that from that point forward he had “just been watching” to see what would result.”” (Crisis of Conscience; Ch. 4)

Which more than implies, along with Fred Franz and Nathan Knorr advising AGAINST such a GB dictatorial scheme, that Fred had a suspicion about the Governing Body dictatorship.

And now, approximately 40 years after the coup of 1976, (approximately 1/3 of the whole post 1914 Jehovah’s witnesses ministry (Rev8:12)), we are starting to see why Fred Franz was not comfortable with that dictatorial GB decision, he was “just watching” to see what that experimental GB ” time bomb” would blow up into.

As Geoffrey Jackson stated to the Australian Royal Commission inquiry into child abuse polices in the WTBTS:

“”But even people who fly aeroplanes realise you can’t fly an aeroplane by committee, there has to be a pilot and a copilot. “”

And you cannot fly an anointed Christian ministry “by committee” either, as the leaderless and apostate GB  has now hit the mountain.

The “Governing Body” Rule By Committee” is an Experiment

But the point is, an error in the Governing Body concept and entity is the problem since 1944- 1976 [1], not the entire formerly valid and clean ministry of Jehovah’s witnesses and the anointed Christians [2] that were using that visible earthly ministerial vessel for the foretold final global witnessing campaign. (Rev8-11, twice [3])

God is using Caesar “superior authorities” to just begin to expose some of the other major problems (1Pet4:15-17) with this Governing Body and its lopsided and over extended [private corporate] “judicial system”, which now disobeys both God and men, goes well BEYOND “the things that are written”, and is near removal by God (Zech3:4-5).

And this is because it will not reform nor make full disclosure, on its own, the Governing Body development, 1944-1976 to present regime, IS AN EXPERIMENT. An [[experiment]] in ministerial management by committee, that has FAILED, and it is not Biblical to begin with.

God allowed the error to develop, for greater future purposes.

The “Governing Body” is the entity that has now guided the post 1969 Christian ministry of Jehovah’s witnesses totally off course [2], as they even became a member of the ‘ United Nation of Non-Kingdom Organizations’ as UN NGO UN sponsors (rather than tell JWs and the world that that 3rd UN presentation of 1990 is ALSO a prophecy at Daniel 11:31b; Daniel 8:23).

JW “The End” Hoax

But as stated at other times here, this actually evil “set in opposition” GB entity (Dan11:32a), OBVIOUSLY 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 “lifting themselves over every one” in the global-congregation of Jehovah’s witnesses, can also use that 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 premature end delusion “to the effect the day of Jehovah is here” too soon, to smokescreen the real reason for the coming Bethel downfall (1Pet4:17; Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14), for divine disapproval (Zech3:1-5; Dan8:11-13), NOT “the end” as JWs are expecting TOO SOON.

They use the USSR retained error as well, to bypass all this prophecy [4], and to keep JWs in premature expectation of “the end” way too soon.

So this is NO WAY just a random disaster all “falling into place” at this time, AND COMING TO LIGHT ALL AT ONCE, as in the Australian Royal Commission, as far as globally-examining REAL Bethel problems and liabilities.

This is final, signal, apostasy at Bethel, as foretold in the same prophecies they now divert, >>by recent error<<, that can be proven to be error in light of that 1990 3rd UN presentation, and its concealment as to prophecy. PAY ATTENTION, please consider this whole rationale for later, because this anti-JW-org development will get worse in the near future. (And as it does, many JWs will think it is “the end”, but well too soon of prophecy reality. [5])

In REALITY the King North progress in 3rd UN manifestation (1990), AND the [modern] Bethel apostasy, CO-DEVELOP in prophecy and these events just outlined above, simultaneously and parallel. [6]

1944: The Governing Body Birthday


From Simple “Governing Body” Error to Full Blown LIE. How?


1969—The JW Peak of Spiritual Enlightenment: Revelation Complete


Why TWO Witnesses?



Russia Framed as King North—The Purpose


Bethel Hoax: Premature End Expectation


Bethel’s Main Delusion: The End is Near, Jehovah’s Day is Here! – is a Signal of The Final Apostasy



Daniel 8 and 11 Final Apostasy and 3rd UN Placement (1990) Connections and Parallels

Daniel Prophecy and 8th King Globalists
Daniel 11:36-41 and Daniel 8:23-25 8th King Globalist Details and the Bethel Apostasy Co-Development

Bethel Apostasy Foretold in Daniel 8 and 11

Satan’s Grand Finale 666 Global Drive Under World Government

Satan’s Grand Finale 666 Global Drive

Before he goes, Satan promotes the counterfeit Kingdom of God decoy one world government (Dan8:25; Dan11:45; Dan12:11), at truly global all pervasive future scope (Rev17:8-18; Dan2:31-45)), and its coercive allegiance (Rev13:15-18), in a time of “admirable” recovery from the global crisis coming up (Rev13:3; Rev17:8), for one reason:

(Revelation 14:9-12) And another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. 12 Here is where it means endurance for the holy ones, those who observe the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.” (Thus parallel Revelation 13:15-18, Rev17:12-18)

And that is after Christ has arrived as Revelation 7:1-4 parallels the Revelation 14:1 fully completed “144000” (Matt24:31; Rev11:11-12), whether literal or symbolic it is the Messianic Kingdom portion completion. Revelation 14 is the full post Christ arrival final sequence, and we know the wildbeast world government is fully active as Revelation 14:9-11.

But so is the final salvation drive of Christ in perfect form backed by angels at global scale of many many people:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

So the point is Christ saves first (Rev14:14-16), then the full end comes. (Rev14:17-20)

In the meantime Satan knows he is going to abyss, so he will try a global destructive drive before he is cut short in action:

(Matthew 24:21-22) 21 for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.

THAT is an attempted Satanic global extinction mode. (We know where that fits in to global “depopulation” research now emerging from globalism researchers)

A global weapons and directed energy technology matrix, under world government, is why that full world government period is worse, “four winds” GT final phase worse, than the global crisis of the 7th King downfall period, which heals into world government.

It is worse not in global pandemonium, but in one world government ability to run their monopolized final agenda with no obstructions.

And that is why the future 8th King world government “world peace” and security (1Thess5:1-3), parallel “freedom from care” is the concurrent world government period of also “bring many to ruin” DURING that same world peace “freedom from care” of global hopeful recovery (Isa41:1):

(Daniel 8:25) And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken.

Which parallels this final attack phase of King North synonymous 8th King “scarlet wildbeast” world government:

(Daniel 11:44-45) “But there will be reports that will disturb him, out of the sunrising and out of the north, and he will certainly go forth in a great rage in order to annihilate and to devote many to destruction. 45 And he will plant his palatial tents between [the] grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration; and he will have to come all the way to his end, and there will be no helper for him.

Which has “during that time” (Dan12:1) merged through Daniel 12:7 (Dan11:41-43), to Daniel 12:11 (Dan11:44-45) final “disgusting thing” world government “placement”:

(Daniel 12:11) “And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation, there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

And that is how the dual criteria is met at the same time in the above, “two witnesses” “constant feature” removal, under fully “placed” world government concurrent, activating Daniel 12:11 1290 days.

(1) The “constant feature” is removed in that (2) world government “one hour” period as it is “ascending” (parallel Rev17:8-12) with that final warning to full global “placement”, at the same time:

(Revelation 11:7) And when they have finished their (1260 days) witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will make war with them and conquer them and kill them. (parallel Rev13:5-7; Rev12:14; Dan7:25; Dan12:7 1260 days expired)

Thus the “two witnesses” final warning is ceased first, then Babylon the Great global religious complex is outlawed and deposed as “one world religion” is also achieved, under the “one hour” of 8th King global reign as world government:

(Revelation 17:12-18) “And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast. 13 These have one thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. 14 These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].”

15 And he says to me: “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues. 16 And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

As noted above, BOTH the national sovereign “King South” (7th King national system global) “gives their [national-based] kingdom” to the world government full 8th King “scarlet wildbeast”, AND the religious sovereignty of BTG is also deposed as that “great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth”.

Thus BOTH rival sovereignties, to 8th King world government, are deposed in the same final sequence, under world government complete. They are all part of that “bring many to ruin”, because ruin is not always destructive, but of sovereign autonomy as well.

That is the same “great city” that the “two witnesses” are deposed on the “broad way” of (Rev11:7-10), thus BTG is still present after the final warning is ceased.

And that is all deep 6th to 7th plague final world government developments here:

(Revelation 16:12-19) (BTG set up) And the sixth one poured out his bowl upon the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, that the way might be prepared for the kings from the rising of the sun. (total globalization into world government) …16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.

(Christ “air event” arrival 1Thess4:17 parallel)

17 And the seventh one poured out his bowl upon the air. At this a loud voice issued out of the sanctuary from the throne, saying: “It has come to pass!”

BTG deposed under world government:

18 And lightnings and voices and thunders occurred, and a great earthquake occurred such as had not occurred since men came to be on the earth, so extensive an earthquake, so great. 19 And the great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell; and Babylon the Great was remembered in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath. (Rev18:8; Rev17:15-18)

And because of this parallel statement, AFTER Revelation 14:6-7:

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

We know some are saved from BTG’s mega-judgment, a “tenth the city fell” into salvation as Revelation 11:13 parallel.

(Some people need to see and feel how real this is, before they can finally be saved. (Hag2:7) And that opportunity will be extended, fully, as per Revelation 14 meaning)

What it means is, due to human ministerial limitations and persecution:

(Matthew 10:23) When they persecute you in one city, flee to another; for truly I say to you, you will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel [i][u]until[/u][/i] the Son of man arrives.

When Christ arrives (Rev11:11-12 activate Rev14:1-5) he then completes his own ministry and the WHOLE final 1260 days and the WHOLE 1290 days are ALL open for global scale salvation for all willing, who keep the 666 mark off of themselves, that is offer no allegiance or support to world government—hence that important Revelation 14:9-11 warning.

Revelation 14 is a final GLOBAL OPEN SALVATION DRIVE of Christ going into full power, but in full Messianic Kingdom completion, prior to total conquest of Revelation 14:17-20 as 7th trumpet Revelation 11:15-19 parallel.

Thus Christ does not wipe out the 8th King immediately, but it is the last task in the process, Rev14:17-18 (Rev19:19-21) parallel:

(Daniel 7:26) And the Court itself proceeded to sit (Messianic Kingdom completion), and his own rulership they [i]finally[/i] took away, in order to annihilate [him] and to destroy [him] totally.

7th King National System Downfall of “Old World Order” for “New World Order” 8th King World Government “Rise”

The big hint of US and EU financial downfall set to occur at some point in the future, becoming global research awareness of many, is the clue that they intend to use the severe global-national-system-crash “problem”, to set up their global world government “solution” by world recovery, which they will have the wealth and power to do (Dan11:42-43 activate Rev13:15-18), and they can sell Satan’s decoy “Kingdom of God” by great global “admirable” hope, as per Revelation 13:3, parallel Revelation 17:8-12. (Isa41:1)

By knowing “the end” does not come with 7th King US downfall phase of the near future (Dan11:42-43), and that the “tribulation of those days” global crisis it will ripple out into heals into world government (Rev13:3; Matt24:29), we know now how the 8th King, instead, “rises” on the 7th King total global nation-state system “old world order” downfall.

That prophetic guarantee God will allow them to go all they way, almost, is how we can order this last events with an emerging world government system required to complete, and be stated in “world peace” (1Thess5:1-3), BEFORE Christ arrives upon that complete rival sovereignty 8th King.

8th King World Peace—Guaranteed

And that was how they do all this “during” a “freedom from care” of global recovery, while attempting to remove all “undesirables”.


Apostate UN-Bethel JW Hoax Set Up

Of course as per 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 premature end delusion, Bethel is selling that premature end, to present the 7th King downfall to JWs as if “it’s the end brothers!”.

Now UN-Bethel can crash JW org (Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14), and cancel the JW ministry, and sell that to JWs as “the end’, as long as they can. Then they just sack Bethel (Dan8:13), and abandon JWs to figure it out for themselves. (Dan8:14, 3.19 year “sign of (JW) Jonah” tossed overboard by the UN-JW-Org apostasy “operation of error”)

It will take some time for it to dawn on JWs, that “the end” is NOT coming quite as soon as they were misled to expect, as we can imagine how long that takes to sink in. (and that amidst a very severe global crisis just activating.)

Retaining the USSR=KN error is how Bethel kept JWs over-advanced in Daniel 11, to expect Daniel 11:44, when we are in Daniel 11:40, and Daniel 11:41 is what comes on Bethel, full blown, but already “entered” by apostasy and infiltration as per Daniel 8:12, and Daniel 11:32a.

No way did a bankrupt USSR fulfill Daniel 11:42-43, that is the King North 8th King world government precursor wealth and global gold coup coming up, that all these latest national sovereign debt developments are now setting up*.

Russia Framed as King North—The Purpose

Next King North Hoax, Now “Gog” Primed For JWs

*Daniel 11:42-43 Explicit in Coming 8th King Globalized Wealth Control

Can the 7th and 8th King Really “Rule Concurrently” as Bethel Teaches?

Can the 7th and 8th King Really “Rule Concurrently”

*** WT 67 3/1 p. 156 Earth’s Final Human Government ***


“”All the seven Biblical powers existed one after another, that is, each one was dominant for a time and relinquished its domination to the succeeding world power. But what about the eighth? Here lies a difference that helps us understand why world powers did not conclude with the seventh one as the complete number of world powers, for the Bible indicates that the seventh and eighth world powers exercise authority contemporaneously during the latter years of the term of the Seventh World Power. But how is it possible for these two world powers to exist at the same time?””

Me: It is not possible, one is but the “image” of world government that must complete:

*** Revelation Grand Climax chap. 35 p. 254 par. 10 Executing Babylon the Great ***

“”Notice that the scarlet-colored wild beast “is also itself an eighth king.” Thus, the United Nations today is designed to look like a world government. At times it has even acted like one, sending armies into the field to resolve international disputes, as in Korea, the Sinai Peninsula, some African countries, and Lebanon. But it is only the image of a king.””

But as we see the Revelation Climax book avoids the climax of the 8th King culmination into foretold world government completion, a true “8th” “King”.

And as we note now from prophecy, the Bethel collusion like UN NGO, but much more, is to aid 8th King completion secrecy for a reason, to make JWs expect “the end prematurely” of what is actually a final cycle, a period of prophecy of some final years needed to complete full world government. They want to toss JWs into that period totally lost and confused so as not to be able to make the final Kingdom witness. (Rev10:11, 11:1-7) in also completion, a “climax” not being explained by rogue apostate UN aligned Bethel.

It also makes logical sense, not just numerical, not just developmental, that the “7th King” has to fold in a national power sense to an “8th King” world power. (Rev17:11-18 full meaning of nation-state comprehensive sovereign deposition). Another Bethel error in creating the delusion “the 7th and 8th King rule at the same time” by implied teaching. But China’s national trend of dominance is tied to that US and EU economic, financial and monetary abruption, so at national scale they are also in ultimate jeopardy to the teetering Anglo-American national system weaknesses.

What people do not plainly see is the international scale of power networked over all the national level financial systems. That is the one whose Anglo-American debt is it’s international “master creditor” system strength, and China is part of that global scale network. Everyone talks about the EU and US national sovereign debt, but few discuss the network that owns that debt, including the Federal Reserve system, and it’s international clone.

The 8th King system is that distributed credit and finance system in part, and in spite of national sovereign debt, the control that gives the global system is it’s direct relationship in leverage. The international system is at an all time perfect position to leverage it’s ownership of that debt, against a nation-state finance network that is basically by the numbers heading for “foreclosure” and “receivership”, and part of that power structure is in the foreign international level systems like China’s.

Thus American national debt folding to “China” in economic decline, is actually folding to the 8th King distributed system, centralizing global wealth power to the international system. China will have to also become subservient to that system to maintain their trajectory, but ultimately it is an 8th King international ascension that will eclipse China as well. The turbulence of such a shift will be great, but manageable, even if it sparks another cold or hot war globally. If it does, world war merely accelerates the process, like in the three previous cycles including the Cold War.

Thus the “7th King” is set-up for a fall, and so is the national network tied to it. The international “8th King” power system is what will dominate, China and Russia are programmed by the math of the financial element, to also eventually capitulate to the far stronger international power order.

Don’t expect that over night, even pawning the Middle East 100%, a prerequisite of it all, will take some years and doing, unless a new “big stick” war technology emerges as well, which may be the case. China’s ascension is merely more proof the 7th King is declining and cannot reverse it by simply printing more money. It as a “quantitative easing” to soften the blow of the rock bottom, that is all, the bottom is on the way. But so is 8th King recovery systems ready to internationalize the finance and monetary system.

Bethel is so backward they cannot even tell the 7th King national systems must indeed fall to form an actual “8th King” system. They cannot tell that fall will not be the utter “end of the world” but the BEGINNING of the final 8th King ascension to world government, world peace and actual world recovery on that new governmental and financial order. One would get better insight from Neanderthal “Kings”, than from the Lords of Bethel.

The “great tribulation” is the 7th world power system nation-state deposition, not into utter destruction, but into 8th King world peace. The “tribulation”, like WW1, WW2, and Cold WW3, will result again in a UN presentation as world government and world “peace and security”. That too would be news at the Bethel glacier. But that is what we are seeing none the less.


UN World Government and the Bethel UN Apostates

I agree with much of what you already see.

Obvious to some, and guaranteed in prophecy, the United Nations will in time be the centerpiece of an actual worldwide governmental sovereign system for real. Just a matter of time, of course God is not going to take such an actual globalized sovereign system lightly, never has (Gen10-11), never will; (Rev19:19-21; Zeph3:8);

So please read this refocus attempt on the importance of keeping track of UN developmental progress towards actual world government and prophecy foretelling it all tracked since even Genesis 11 as further Daniel and Revelation developments.

The 8th King (UN) world government tracking ministry is all I endorse as anointed truth once at Bethel (but in anointed not dependant on any human organization). But tracking UN globalist prophecy as an extension of well known national world history (Dan2,7,8) is VERY important for it converges with final Kingdom of Christ arrival as the also foretold opposing world sovereign when that UN world government completes after the fourth cycle we are soon to enter.

[[And since this forecast is a decade long approximate, I feel confident my claims here of things in prophecy (repeating for the most part) and UN related world events to be more high profile in time, will indeed unfold to aid your perception to remove any doubts many in fact have now. That is why God will give stunningly clear final warning with time to respond, for God and Christ desire to save ANYONE they can by means of faith, sacrifice and cooperation with the incoming Kingdom of God universal and world power arrangement for life recovery of all of planet Earth and ALL it’s inhabitants, not just mankind; (Gen1:26-28), in time as Matt19:28; Rom8:18-22; Eze47:9, Rev21-22.]]

I only see the anointed beginning of that Kingdom tracking mission (first Rev10-11 fulfillment), not the “means to an end” which is all Bethel and WT are, now distracting idols readying their own removal – also well foretold to awake Christians. (1Pet4:17 after 2Thess2:3-4 signal as Dan8:13-14 soon as Rev8:2-5 purification meaning);

I am trying to describe the most important world development leading to actual arrival of Christ to dispute the sovereign claim of a complete UN 8th King world government. I want to avoid WT distractions to get to the more important world reality now present in three historic UN placements, 3 times as foretold in 1919, 1945 and 1990***, because 4th UN foretold manifestation at the end of the coming world cycle, will mean divine war at Armageddon eventually. (Dan7:25-26 parallel of Dan12:7-11 parallel of Rev11:1-13);

The Christendom proper endorsed the League of Nations in 1919. It is IBSA that accurately exposed that to become UN related development as globalist “image of the wildbeast” as Revelation 13:11-15 progressively from 1920 forward. Christendom endorses the UN as well, and will eventually use the literal nation of Israel deception to lead what is left of it’s followers to 4th UN placement world government when that time comes at the end of the Daniel 11:42-45 final cycle soon to activate fully over some years. JWs exposed UN second placement of 1945 as Rev17:8-11 accurately. We now had 2 UN manifestations leading to Armageddon.***

Then Bethel derailed into wildbeast services gradually; (Dan8:12);

Bethel in like manner endorsed the UN 3rd placement in 1990 as NWO co-promoters. (Dan11:30-31) While saying NOTHING of a UN 3rd manifestation meaning, also at the end of a “cold war” global “conflict”; Thus they and Christendom are a like minded foreign body now both not informing their members or their audience that a UN 4th placement of the relatively near future, in a UN 1-2-3-4 super-cycle of world government development all foretold***, but currently covered up now by even Bethel in 3rd and 4th UN placement meaning in Daniel 11:30-45, will in fact lead to Christ’s arrival to depose an actual complete 8th King UN centric world sovereign rival system not yet present in complete form on planet Earth. (UN “image” yes, UN world government no) Now both Christendom from UN 1919 incept, and Bethel all work for 8th King subversion of very important prophecy and guaranteed continuum trackable to actual Armageddon.

The prophecy accuracy far outweighs the WT/Bethel distraction to soon be removed fully. (also as per prophecy, not hearsay, because recovery of this UN tracking MUST be carried out for final world warning).

So the JW original ministry of say 1919 to 1950 did in fact expose the UN as the forming “image” basis of that final 8th King world government in that first League of Nations manifestation and world presentation. But today Bethel subverts JWs and the world audience from understanding UN as world government (8th King for real) though related, is not yet what the UN is. The UN is the “image”, the “nucleus” of a “cell” that will become a full world government (Rev17:12-18) and make final world peace claims after the fourth phase of development completes 1Thess5:1-3 and Dan8:25 as parallel. As of now, the UN is just an “image”.

And as of now Christ will not arrive to depose a world sovereign who simply does not yet exist in completed form.

The churches, seminary, clerics or members in general NEVER have exposed the meaning of UN world government as final 8th King inevitable culmination, so JWs as IBSA and eventually Jehovah’s witnesses did in fact have a foundational truth, for if people ignore UN world government development they will easily be marked 666, as Bethel and Christendom are already aiding the process of. The world in general is on a greased incline to world government about to tip to accelerate the process. (Dan11:42-43). Massive national debt will ensure nations will lose the sovereignty based on wealth, now astronomical debt to be aligned into the 8th King actual master “creditor” which now will control nations by debt into only a globalized recovery scenario, as nations will have to relinquish top financial authority and governmental administration of it for 8th technocracies.

Nations are now living on borrowed sovereignty (as debt) and ultimately worthless currencies.

So I stick to prophecy people can agree on, not debates of Bethel lawlessness. The body of anointed who used a means to an end “WT”, did not intend it to become a competing idol, and even now a JW death trap system that it is for 8th King use to start the final cycle. [1] At maybe 40 million world audience influence, JWs are just a drop in the overall bucket, Christendom as a whole will lead far more people to the UN world government than JWs. The world system is even more funnel like.

Thus the assault to come on Bethel and JWs is to erase the meaning of the first 2 UN prophecy meaning. Bethel is intended as but part of a far greater overall world deception, as UN NGO merely aiding the delusion of their small sector of world influence. The Bethel system is not meant as a giant 666 marking conduit, though present true, it is intended to derail the first 2 UN placement continuum.

They have broken the UN 1-2-3-4 super-cycle as prophecy to Armageddon awareness. They want to also aid removal of the first two UN placement understanding and exposition originally ONLY in JWs, so the world can never understand a 4th UN world government manifestation is going to trigger Armageddon’s war phase.

Bethel’s ultimate goal is the complete destruction of Bethel to undermine the original JW ministerial resource base of potential UN 1-2-3-4 exposition. Bethel are not accidental hypocrites, they are the foretold enemy within the at one time temple representing ministry of genuine early 20th century anointed Christians. (Zech3:1-3 parallels modern Bethel influence as 2Thess2:3-4); Meaning purposeful destructive agents are who run and now control Bethel ownership, corporately being set up for coup-de-grace, as mission of GB control of 1976 original Bethel power coup. That is when the infiltrators gained full access as per Daniel 11:30-31 and Dan8:11-13;

There goal is to break prophetic continuum and destroy the JW ministry at the end of the mission.

This continuum is what they are breaking:


UN 1. 1919; After WW1 “peace”; League of Nations foretold at: Revelation13:11-15; Daniel 12:11 first fulfillment;

UN 2. 1945; After WW2 “peace”; United Nations foretold at Revelation 17:8-11; 3.

UN 3. 1990; After WW3 (Cold War) “peace”; United Nations (New World Order initiative) foretold at Daniel 11:31;

UN 4. Future; After WW4 “peace” and “security” presumably; as full unified nations in 8th King “scarlet wildbeast” full world government and “image” foretold at Daniel 12:11 final fulfillment; Daniel 11:45; 8:25 parallels of Rev19:19-21; Eze38.

Because of that progression soon to enter a final world tribulatory cycle to be again resolved into a UN manifestation this time as complete world government, we know JWs did in fact have an initial valid ministry. The worst thing the Devil could have done is simply let Charles Russell remain in the clothing business and other worldly pursuits, then no one would understand a first UN placement as significant, Christendom could just drift into deeper 666 aid, the world would be fully lost.

That JWs did expose 2 UN placements, and are recently diverted by Bethel subversion as UN NGO to cover up a 3rd UN placement after the cold war, means JWs did NOT serve globalist objectives up to the 2nd successfully UN exposing ministry, It was later, from 2nd UN placement 1945 to 3rd UN placement 1990, that JWs are now fully subverted and set up to expect a desolation (Dan11:44), but not the one it will actually be (Dan8:13), to cover up the internal operation and the fact Bethel is aiding it’s own downfall to shut up ALL the UN as prophecy meanings; as the 4th UN cycle starts, NOT ending yet for quite some time.

Had IBSA and JWs been Satanic or globalist, like Christendom NONE of those UN placements or the ultimate significance of their continuum as a cycle of 4, would be known today, or even possible to be known. Tracking UN world government development is like tracking arrival of Christ and Armageddon Kingdom response that will arrive only on a COMPLETE UN world government sovereignty, not before, as per a number of prophetic details like Matt24:29-31 timing parallel to UN 4th placement.

Plain and simple a final cycle will begin soon not as “the end of the world” but as the beginning of a final drawn out UN cycle 4 that will result in UN world government (over the decade from incept of that phase four) which will result in Christ’s dispute of that at that time of a completed 8th King world sovereignty as Armageddon war phase, not yet complete in the rival world sovereign who must be a globalized full 8th King full “scarlet wildbeast”.

Only JW anointed offered the original prophetic and historic rationale that allows Daniel 11:30-45 to be seen as two final UN placements as 3 and 4 of the overall 1-2-3-4 UN world government development to completion. Daniel 11:42-45 of the near future fourth and final cycle is thus to lead to a UN 4th placement as Daniel 11:45 parallels Dan8:25 merging live and real-time into Dan12 as Dan12:11.

Without accepting the early Kingdom proclamation of IBSA and JWs as significant prophecy so God can warn the world prior to Christ’s inevitable arrival. one is just as lost as the churches or modern JWs in various minutia as distraction from the big picture of a UN 1-2-3-4 super-cycle. To all of them, the ever important UN wold government progression has fallen fully off the radar. This is why JWs can be sold a premature end scenario, they do not perceive cycle 3 and 4 of the overall UN progression, and thus do not understand a final 4th cycle, in full, is needed to complete UN world government by use again, of a world tribulation that ends (Matt24:29) into world peace final claims – like the three former world wars including the “cold war”; (Dan11:29);

That is the ministerial thread God will complete with or without Bethel, for God is not dependent on celebrities to proclaim truth. Nor is the size of the group that matters, but the magnitude of the actual Kingdom warning that is being given that actually matters, even if stones off the ground must make that final proclamation, they certainly will if need be. But as per prophecy genuine Christian anointed must spearhead the final “two witnesses”, to deliver a final “little scroll” meaning of impending sovereign confrontation between a completed UN world government as 8th King and the Messianic Kingdom of Jesus Christ. There are literally TWO witnessings for Kingdom birth phase of the past and Kingdom completion phase of the future in “two witnesses” meaning – it MUST replicate “again” as per Rev 10 v. 11.

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy again with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

That “prophesy” WILL include UN 4th placement meaning, and UN 1-2-3-4 meaning, as part of the “little scroll” brief but powerful final Christian warning.

Thus being distracted by an idolatrous “WT” means to an end now failed, merely aids the deception, and why Bethel lawless subverters create such an internally fed controversy to fool people from the first 2 UN meanings – and the misperception the whole JW ministry is a lie. We need to understand anointed are Messianic Kingdom reps who expose the diametric UN system doomed to Armageddon destruction while proclaiming Kingdom of God certainty. It is not about Bethel, WT or GB and their many distracting idols, it is all about God’s Kingdom,, God and Christ, that is the message of the original “little scroll” JWs have now lost, and so are others losing the basic meaning and the big picture to be redefined by God shortly.

Tracking UN prophecy in four phases merely adds evidence of the truth of irreversible prophecy that MUST lead to the long foretold confrontation with Christ as the final outcome. The total destruction of the 8th King is inevitable.

And if JWs are that lost, the churches are lost even longer and deeper in now three UN endorsements, for their world church councils are all globalist elite funded and must tow the wildbeast party line as also Bethel is now doing as newcomer.

That obstacle must be removed at Bethel, or entirely as Bethel, as will be revealed as God will indeed give full explanation of what a 4th and final UN placement will ultimately mean. That UN 1-2-3-4 prophetic trek to Armageddon will be made known as prophecy as it should have been explained fully in 1990 at 3rd UN placement, as obviously now a 3rd UN placement of Dan11:31b, MUST lead as per Dan11:36, to a 4th UN placement at Daniel 11:45 as a sort of REQUIRED unbroken continuum of globalist ascension to full world sovereignty as 8th King finale. (The Daniel 11:42-45 final sequence to activate fully soon, first on national debt meltdowns potentially accelerated by some big world war/terror events, etc);

Thus to me any WT, Bethel or GB controversy is merely a temporary distraction to be avoided which merely breeds more dissent and focus away from the basic fact a 4th UN manifestation, over a final approximate decade long cycle (Dan12 timing in part) will usher in an actual world 8th King sovereign full power and the Messianic Kingdom full response as Armageddon “war of the great day of God the Almighty” is what that will inevitably trigger.

At such time Christ can indeed arrive to depose a by then existent world sovereign globalized rival system worldwide. (Daniel 11:42-45 + Rev17:12-18 = Rev16:12-16);

THAT is all that really matters in this progression to be marked more clearly by UN and world events and it’s news leading to that final confrontation to define Earth’s new Kingdom rulership forever. Everything else that does not lead to that awareness, is just more distraction that will catch some people into the goat side of the final separation to manifest at post 1260 days Matt24:29-31 parallel to Matt25:31-46 parallel to Rev14:14-20 after the final warning is given to help many people get refocused in that time.

Basically the whole world is programmed already to lead people into that UN world government. ONLY the final anointed ministry to go worldwide as “little scroll” by God’s guarantee and backing will contain final truth to avoid any UN allegiance in any form, at any time to avoid the 666. Doubters may not fair well at such time, but we leave full final judgment to Jesus Christ the King.

(Revelation 14:9-12) And another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. 12 Here is where it means endurance for the holy ones, those who observe the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.”

That is why that final warning is in Rev14 Kingdom completion sequence, even as Christ arrives, and completes the Kingdom body of Rev14:1, a final acceptance can still be made of even last minute true repenters and surrenderers to Christ in post Dan12:7 timing of Daniel 12:11 totally final period of both sheep and goat presence for final judgment of Matt25:31-46. Christ himself will finish his own ministry as per Matt10:23, and salvation will be his goal, yet of course some must continue goat-like as well.

But the more we see the danger of UN allegiance and the result of it’s completion, of course the sooner we can make the sacrificially based determination to be found sheep at final “gathering” of the Matt24:29-31 prelude sequence to Armageddon finalities.

Of course this final cycle, and Bethel downfall will all become more apparent as to meaning as time rolls on in the Dan8:14 timing first, amid Daniel 11:42-43 financial phase activations in whatever context necessary to start the final UN cycle tribulation to eventual UN world government.

In most basic terms, UN progress to world government will help monitor actual Christ arrival. When UN completes a stated world sovereignty as an actual global ruling system, Christ will arrive to depose that foretold 8th King completed rival sovereign. That is all in prophecy and must be made globally known at some point prior to UN 4th placement as per also irreversible prophecy.



JW Self Fulfilling Prophecy and the UN 1-2-3-4 Cycle

The “Event” Bethel is Planning For

On the Significance of the United Nations 1-2-3-4 Super-Cycle to 8th King World Government 1919 to Unknown Future Placement 4

Watchtower is a Distraction

Watchtower is a Distraction

Sadly, you make the claim that scriptures I posted are out of context. Yet, you fail to point out to your audience how they are out of context.

Wrong wording; It is that many in the Christendom overall apostasy IDd after 1918 have no actual context; That they pick scriptures that appeal to self glorification at the same time avoiding “hell fire” which is thus not a choice, but a coercion;

The fundamental logic of thousands of scattered church teachings are therefore fundamentally serving self glorification with a persuasion of a “hell fire” that does not exist, meaning churches are not teaching the truth;

And that is the problem IDd in 1918 and now made obvious for millions to flee from that Babel like instituion;

Now JWs have a similar apostasy at work, not to re-introduce Babel and church error in theology, but to align JWs in a very dangerous spiritual relationship with the UN as UN NGO, thinking it is all harmless;

That infraction (Dan8:13-14) is going to cause a JW organizational destruction of Biblical proportions, not so much physical but financial and governmental, the main method of making a ministerial operation cease;


Than you once again repeat lies of WTS teachings as being in context.
Prove one prophesy of the WTS or the ones your making up have has come true?

Few prophecies were ascertained before they fulfilled in the past, so there is no “false prophecy” as far as the sovereign progression of Daniel 2, 7, 8 and 11, until recently the GB covers up 8th King prophecy as King North from Daniel 11:27-45; That is the 3rd and fourth, final UN placements of world history in Daniel 11:31b and Daniel 11:45 respectively;

We ascertain the GB error, along with their UN alignment as UN NGO, to see why they cover up the final two UN placements in Bible history for it is the Daniel 11:36 REQUIRED continuum to Armageddon;

Churches do not understand Daniel and Revelation’s connection to the sovereign progression of world national powers, being globalized into a UN world government; JWs had that made apparent by historical patterns fitting the prophecy; But today, like the churches, JWs are not aware that globalization is the main “gathering” power of Revelation 16:12-16 which leads to Armageddon;

So JWs have indeed accurately INTERPRETED most prophecy after the fact to identify a worldwide development that will unify all national powers on earth into the 8th King consolidation of globalist world government; And that is why it is an 8th King; Daniel 11:42-44 + Rev17:12-18 = Rev16:13-16 (Dan11:45) which is Armageddon;

The churches and the lone “Christians” thinking they are going to a Kingdom them scarcely understand, by scarcely understanding the rival 8th Kingdom have NO idea of Revelation or Daniel sovereign prophecy and it’s progression to the end of the world of all opposed to Kingdom of God world rulership; The churches do not put together the most simple test of loyalty to God’s Kingdom, but instead back up te United Nations as a form of God’s Kingdom “on earth”, and such traitorous harlotry is of course why they do not understand Daniel or Revelation or what it really means;

Therefore the churches are part of the puppet “false prophet” and anti-Christ system portion, that will lead you guys to the 8th King UN 4th placement, GUARANTEED, that is the Kingdom the churches, and now even JWs as UN NGO are serving;

The desolation of the JW ministry is to also remove the lawless elements covering up the final portion of Daniel 8 and 11 sovereign progression to 4th placement UN world government; The impostor GB cannot overturn previous understanding, but tey can divert attention away from the final prophetic cycle and world tribulation developmental cycle required for the UN to become a world government in control of all the nations;

JWs nailed the identification of the UN “image” as Rev13 and 17 significant, but are now diverted from the reality that image ultimately represents a final world government globalist unification against God’s Kingdom of all the nations on earth, which must complete and make sovereign final claims before God’s Kingdom wipes it out at Armageddon; There is not much time left in the world, 7 to 10 years, maybe a little more, and the churches are even lass aware of Biblical reality then most JWs; Organized JWs need to be desolated and purified to teach the full truth;

There will be a massive final world collapse, tribulation and unique world war, and a recovery (Dan8:25; 1Thess5:1-3); leading to the 4th UN placement made fully vocal to all the world in the process; That is not a “WT teaching”, instead it is being diverted by the Bethel apostasy, but it will come true because now we have i former fulfillment at World War 1, simply repeating at final world war, to be resolved for the UN world government, “NO wars and NO reports of wars” (Matt24:6);

And that is the end;

World Recovery After World War 4 – Daniel 11:27-45 3rd and 4th Final United Nations Placements

Bethel Man of Lawlessness Covers Up UN 3rd Placement 1990 Meaning

A thread statement…

Quite a popular thread, if we compiled it we would have a book or so.

So whether it is God’s name in itself as the original overall meaning as Almighty GOD, or Jehovah, YHWH, Yahweh and the Hebrew specifically personalized form in it’s many post Babel forms, such purified hallowing, or sanctification from human and demon error is also important to some human beings, and it is far more important to God and the Sanctifier Jesus Christ the Chosen One as Christ means such.

Thus wayward and reproachful Bethel as the main well infused and well hidden internal wormwood home system now (Rev8:10-11; Dan11:30-35), well seen externally now (2Pet2:1-3), must in time fall further into divine judgment as 1Peter4:17, as Daniel 8:13-14 indicates God will clean His own Name (even among JWs; Isa37-22-28), by action of Destroyer (Rev9; Zech3:1-9) as messenger of the covenant (Isa63:9; Mal3:1-5) now falling also into befouled (Zech3:1-9; 2Thess:1-4) reproach.

This will be in the beginning of the final 8th King cycle of financial globalization (Dan11:42-43) that must precede the final progression to world government as 8th King final UN system (Dan11:44-45; Rev11:7; 11:11-15).

And that will take some years. The timed JW temple judgment as those saying the USSR is King North,. must be removed to reveal the 8th King from Daniel 11:30-45 as King North in 3rd and 4th Un placements of Daniel 11:31b and Daniel 11:45 “palatial tents” of world government, now also covered up officially by Bethel central “man of lawlessness” complex.

Timed Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses – Daniel 8:13-14

I certainly hope JW and Bethel lawlessness has not caused people affected by such diversionary tactics of the Devil to have lost focus on the Bible truth of the first two UN placements of 1919 League of Nations fulfilling Revelation 13:11-15 and the United Nations of 1945 fulfilling Revelation 17:8-11. Though the 3rd UN placement is now covered up by Bethel and JWs, as Daniel 11:31b in 1990 following the cold war (Dan11:29), the 4th UN placement of Daniel 11:45; (parallel Dan8:25; Dan12:11) will be proclaimed as last decade Christians as JWs recovered as wheat from the Bethel weeds AFTER the coming Bethel timed desolation of Dan8:13 “trampling” for UN NGO transgression as Dan8:14 temple judgment “right condition” purification.

Bethel covered up the third of 4 UN placements, they will NOT cover up the last UN placement 4, and news of the 3rd UN placement of 1990 as Daniel 11:30-31.

As far as LIVING prophecy, to those staying awake NOW, or being woken up now or paying attention as commanded continuously, listening to God by holy spirit through the Christ rather than fallen men at Bethel (Dan11:30b), it is NOW obvious.

It is undeniable Bethels modern role as “man of lawlessness” of the current JW cover up, and no one befouls God’s name, and walks away in the end. (Zech3:1-4). And neither will Bethel, just because they use former anointed credibility and fancy suits to ply their deception among JWs and the world.

You have as much right, in fact more right, to take up the coming final Kingdom ministry, NOW, as Bethel has failed as foretold. Do not let LIARS in the Bethel top system (like, but not limited to, the Governing Body lawless ones), who mislead JWs, make one believe they are pre-approved (2Thess2:4), and infallible. They are the “man of lawlessness” lead clerics and spokesmen (2Cor11:13-15) that awake Christians KNOW must signal the FINAL temple judgment as a REQUIRED PREREQUISITE AT 2 THESSALONIANS 2:1-4.

What will activate very soon, will go on for several years. Let us be ready for the ride. Christ shall be King, not the UN “No World Order”.

Final Temple Judgment and Jehovah’s Witnesses



End of the World – Not!

End of the World – Not!

Bethel is promoting a premature “end of the world” expectation.

Instead it is the national sovereignties whose power is ending into 8th King global sovereignty. That national sovereignty must end into a greater global sovereignty. That global collective national sovereign transfer (Rev17:12-18) becomes a complete globalized world government at the end of this process. (Dan11:42-45);

In geo-political terms even the Middle East will not fall into Anglo-American-Israeli elite control overnight – much less Russia and China. Yet all must in time capitulate to 8th King global sovereignty. (Rev16:12-16 + Rev17:11-18);

The national sovereign downfall triggered by financial and economic instability culminating will begin with the debt burdened European Union and United States national systems. The rest eventually follow suit, one way or another, for their economic, finance and monetary systems are hinged to the US Dollar and the Euro inter-relationship to global trade.

In time of financial meltdown “problem”, the 8th King globalized monetary and finance “solution” will also recover the EU and US as leading national powers to guide the rest into this globalized financial system over some years.

All that financial intrigue will also not be resolved overnight. (Dan11:42-43);

What is indicated is a final world power cycle and a final prophetic cycle are what is starting next, not ending for some time. And that duration of the final cycle is all outlined in Daniel 8:14 and Daniel 12:7 and 12:11. The final cycle of prophecy will repeat the initial cycle of Daniel 12 that led to the League of Nations after a Kingdom “birth” ministry and global proclamation was complete at that time. (1914-1918 as Daniel 12:7; Revelation 11:2-3);

The actual gauge to Christ’s final and full arrival is in that 8th King, United Nations based, world government completion. Since the UN is not a world government, but just it’s “image” that intends being the centerpiece of that coming world government, Christ cannot arrive to depose a non-existent rival world government.

The sovereign debt compromise of the current dominant 7th King US and EU [national] systems of the Anglo-American national alliance will allow Daniel 11:42-43 to culminate in 8th King global wealth domination:

(Daniel 11:42-43) And he (8th King/King North) will keep thrusting out his hand against the (national) lands; and as regards the land of Egypt (collective national powers; King South “capital”), she (feminized King South) will not prove to be an escapee. (captured by globalist power intrigues of first a financial nature:) 43 And he (King North/8th King) will actually rule over the hidden treasures (globally) of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt. (Thus 8th King/King North rules the world wealth, wealth system and all “desirable things” of collective global national “Egypt” “King South” powers in full globalist progressive ownership);

That 8th King sovereign wealth and financial domination is how the national sovereignty follows the wealth power to a new level of global control, globalized wealth and financial power aided by massive national debt compromise.

The coming development that will accelerate, aid and finalize that national sovereign power transfer to forming globalized world government, will be a final global tribulation. (Dan12:1; Matt24:29; 24:21)

Like WW1, WW2 and Cold WW3, tribulation intensified by global military intrigues aids the process of world government that is born and presented as that “tribulation” ends as in 1919 (League of Nations), 1945 (United Nations), and 1990 (UN third placement). This final tribulation will end (Matt24:29) into 8th King completed world government. (Dan8:25; 11:45; 12:11).

Rather than three fronts of defiance implied in today’s Bethel Daniel 8:25, 11:45 and 12:11 interpretations, ALL those symbologies converge with the national sovereignties (rev17:12-17), into 8th King world government super-sovereignty as Daniel 8:25, 11:45 and 12:11 are an identical final Armageddon triggering event.

Thus the final cycle of world power coming up, will also feature a globalized tribulation “problem” to be resolved in time, to also bear a globalized recovery “solution” from the 8th King global wealth ruler. (Dan11:42-43; Isa41:1);

That world government bearing “tribulation of those days” is shown to end, not into the “end of the world”, but into Christ’s arrival as now a compete 8th King world government will be completed and ready for final battle for Earth’s rulership:

(Matthew 24:29-30) “Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
(the lights being eclipsed are the national sovereigns by the globalist 8th King world government) 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity. (in time the Messianic Kingdom will put out the lights of the globalist 8th King; Rev16:12-17);

Thus “sheep” gathering is to be Jesus Christ’s main initial priority. The official final fulfillment Revelation 16:17 seventh plague downfall of Babylon the Great must be after this Christ sheep gathering event in Matthew 24:30-31 is in progress:

(Revelation 16:17) And the seventh one poured out his bowl upon the air. At this a loud voice issued out of the sanctuary from the throne, saying: “It has come to pass!”
(The Messianic Kingdom completes; all sheep are separated out from the world goat herds); And lightnings and voices and thunders occurred, and a great earthquake occurred such as had not occurred since men came to be on the earth, so extensive an earthquake, so great. 19 And the great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell; and Babylon the Great was remembered in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath. (BTG goes down in the seventh plague.);

Thus even through a final “great tribulation” Babylon the Great (BTG) aids the “wildbeast” all the way to her own end. And from BTG and the world system Christ will collect final sheep shaked out of the whole Revelation 16 final seven plague process. (Hag2:7)

(Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.

After the 144000 completion (Rev7:1-8) of Revelation 14:1, carried out in Christ’s final sheep gathering of Matthew 24:30-31, a final appeal is still made to some earthlings stuck in the doomed system:

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

Thus it is not “the end” coming up, but the start of a final cycle of prophecy leading to a full warning of Christ’s inevitable full arrival to complete the 144000, gather in the last of the earth sheep (Matt25:31-46), as Christ himself completes his on ministry (Matt10:23) prior to the full conquest of the 8th King.

Bethel Red Flags – The Moment of Awareness of Bethel’s Apostasy

Bethel Red Flags – The Moment of Awareness of Bethel’s Apostasy

1. UN alliances

I decided to add the second development that finally aided my own awareness of the Bethel atmosphere of organized transgression.

2. General perception of lack of holy spirit and a blase’ JW attitude to actual Bible research and study.

Elders didn’t like me hanging out in the library, witness parties never featured Biblical discussion, JWs seemed to treat ministerial positions and titles more like a business achievement, a noticeable attitude of complacency and self righteousness was displayed in NOT being able to simply discuss Bible teachings or WT teachings as these turned to seemingly defensive positions based on overall JW ignorance, not due to actual discussion but lack of actual understanding in JWs of basic WT doctrine.

Thus it appeared I was among robots, so free time studying seemed more useful than meetings featuring superficial scriptural therapy, ministerial depth development sufficient for remedial or absolute newbie discussion endlessly parroted, delusional back patting exercises based on merit of 1940s JWs, catalogue like detail to visual assessments, endless recordings of the same old scripts with no actual insight or enlightenment since 1960, basically a spiritual concentration camp starvation diet and a big zombie like show of past performance of other historic JWs prior to the UN GB implanted cell of corruptions.

Eventually the JW malaise, spiritual cancer and statistical plummet all has a GB inception point epicenter, further marked in trends by the UN NGO, as in retrospect, both mark a point in JW productive decline. In my opinion God was not happy with the GB celebrity council from incept (1976) since it is not in the Bible, thus a core lie in itself and reveals glory seekers more than Bile studiers. And I felt as a Christian in belief of God’s Kingdom, neither God or Christ was happy with the GB lackadaisical attitudes towards spiritually fornicating and treasonous UN alliances. (What actual anointed would bed with the UN to read books at the UN library? The whole things seemed but another lie, in a long line of lies since the GB self-invented it’s own Biblical existence.)

In hindsight it eventually became impossible to defend them while preaching when in time I saw they are in fact more likely “evil slave” and “man of lawlessness” principle workers of very basic Bible clues of corrupting influence contained in key symbolic descriptions, and what that leads to in time; disaster. In the meantime their fruitage speaks for itself as does the atmosphere they create. We JWs have allowed corrupted and evil men to now direct the ministry for almost 40 years, again, it will prove a disaster in time. So I could no longer share in serious sins of Bethel origination, purpose and continued promotion.

3. Other obviously damaging polices

And thus as I tried to defend the GB on the web, it soon became obvious they are their, and JWs, and the public at large, own worst enemy. No one can do more damage to Bethel and more reproach, than they have created in and of themselves and their own brazen conduct of spiritual megalomania and presumptuousness. The GB is the worst spiritual enemy in human form, that JWs have ever known up to this time. (2Thess2:1-4).

I will tell you now, the GB will equal a JW and ministerial disaster and will eventually be heaped into the dumpster of time, with other errors of the past that somehow were accepted as Christian formerly. (Zech3:1-5).

There is no such thing as a “Governing Body” in the Bible, plain and simple, and in that lie is their main curse. They get about 40 years, and no more; (Rev8:12).

I am suspicious of Bethel developments…

I am Suspicious of Bethel Developments…

I am a Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I have now left JW org “Jerusalem” as per Matt 24:15 as the UN NGO signals the “disgusting thing” is indeed standing were it ought not be in the former JW Christian ministry.

I am not trying to preach to anyone, and do not know your JW background as far as understanding the theological framework, which helps understanding basics, to see how certain JW prophetic expectations will aid the Bethel crash operation, to see not only are they (Bethel) preparing JWs for an event, they have a theological set up to also cover up the actual reality of the event while it is in action. Thus there is more to the psychological preparation, some of it is decades old.

So your suspicion of such conditioned mental programming in action now in intensified form, I saw in your therapy thread, compelled me to give you some links that take your suspicion to the next level of information in terms of also:

1. Prophecy misapplied for creating a JW self fulfilling prophecy prematurely applied to cover up the Bethel worldwide event duration.

2. And the actual prophecies it is fulfilling, and why they cover up Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:30-31 meaning.

It ties in with that WT 11/15/13 pg. 20, par. 17, directive #3 order to follow any insane direction that may come from Bethel as “life saving direction”.
Though the logic connects into other developments actually to come after the Bethel organizational desolation, I think these links may have an extension of what I feel you clearly perceive from Bethel itself. What makes these analyses unique is it connects what is going on at Bethel as prophetic, and purposeful and connected to the final 8th King globalization process. Bethel works for UN objectives in reality, all undercover. Bethel is also conducting a purposeful stumbling campaign fueled by their lawless conduct, but there is much involved with the actual operation, they also want to attempt to destroy Bethel’s organizational and financial ministerial resource base, including JW capture.

I know your stressed a little, and this may seem odd, but I felt knowing the truth of Bethel to an even deeper level aids personal awareness and actually helps psychologically, rather than wondering, and knowing others see what Bethel is REALLY up to, and it is not good. As stated these articles and posts are not typical complaints and the usual Bethel based uproar, but are explanatory of the ultimate meaning of the Bethel anomalies and organized lawlessness, and that it does have a climaz coup being prepared.


How Bethel’s Hoax and End Game Diversion Works

On the Significance of the United Nations 1-2-3-4 Super-Cycle to 8th King World Government 1919 to Unknown Future Placement 4 – And The Bethel Cover UP

How to Set-Up JWs Like 8th King Sitting Ducks

JWs: Time to FLEE to the mountains!

The Total World Judgment “The Judgment” Begins With Jehovah’s Witnesses

Final Temple Judgment and Jehovah’s Witnesses