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Bethel Middleman to God

Bethel Middleman to God

“Since GOD is the being we are to worship.. Why is it that the church ..has inserted themselves in his position?? And call leaving them …as leaving GOD.. IF in fact a person had left GOD..why… Pray tell would they be on here advocating that people draw closer to GOD..GO to his word and not listen to those that say you must be a member of their church to gain salvation.”

This is true and a signal seen at the last point of Christian clarification in Jehovah’s witnesses as the ministry that pointed out the League of Nations made the first “new world order” claim to a developing world government for planet earth.

Thus regardless of prophecy it is now world record that the Kingdom of God AND the globalist “League of Nations” system BOTH made a well known claim to world sovereignty.

In it’s very essence an astounding potential conflict for that sovereignty, that some like to call Armageddon, was laid out.

So it is no surprise people will generally avoid the issue of world government and try to ignore the globalist backed globalization process which must culminate into world government a number of years from now, and they will also ignore the Kingdom of God.

And the Bethel apostate “mediator” billionaires actually aid this ignoring of something that WILL have a culmination and a sovereign confrontation in the future. The whole point being sidestepped is that JESUS CHRIST is the King who will rule planet Earth, and when that 8th King complete world government JESUS CHRIST will show up to prove it permanently by war, the 8th King preferred method of domination.

But Christ will fight Divine War for God.

Now Jehovah’s witnesses have even forgotten the significance of that League of Nations 1919 and United Nations 1945 claims to global sovereignty.

How do we know? Because they treated the 3rd UN “New World Order” placement of 1990 as inconsequential and insignificant, and instead JOINED the global 3rd UN placement “New World Order” campaigning as UN NGO in their sector of global influence for endorsing the UN world government.

By Bethel lead JWs act like the USSR never fell so as to be a valid King North (Dan11:36, 42-43), and the UN NWO never arose.

In fact that 3rd UN NWO placement IS THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!

So JWs also cover up and divert prophecy to cover up their 8th King handlers and the real King North as Daniel 11:30-41 3rd UN and post 3rd UN placement developments that lead to Daniel 11:42-45 4th UN world government placement of the future.

Thus organizational distraction, GB “lifting themselves over everyone”, endless minutia of the JW past, scandal of all sorts, stumbling lawlessness, and more apostate prophecy fulfilling but unknown to JWs AIDS THEIR OPERATION AND CONCEALMENT OF THE TRUE ISSUE.


They have JWs acting as if the 3rd UN placement never occurred, and that it will not lead to the 4th UN placement of world government, and that it is “all done”, and none of it really matters! Well done! We are at apex!


But in fact it is that 4th UN cycle as Daniel 11:42-45 that is about to just BEGIN, not end.

In fact JWs will be under the Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment desolation decree for that UN NGO, and this cover up, and all this brazen idolatrous lawlessness.

That is why the org inserting itself in place of Jesus Christ, and the GB word as more important than the Bible, gradually brought in (Dan8:12), will have disastrous results, because at one time old school Christian JWs DID EXPOSE THE RIVAL 8TH KINGDOM!

And now the national power progression to the 7th King is DONE. NOW the 8th King GLOBALIST system is what will supercede the 7th King nation-state system, including the US, Brit and EU national systems, ALL will be deposed by financial intrigues of Daniel 11:42-43 to 8th King global wealth domination.

With the wealth power will follow the sovereign power of world rulership, and that will take a final cycle as Daniel 11:42-45 converging into Daniel 12 final fulfillment to accomplish – and NONE of this is even slightly comprehended by the duped JWs.

THAT is what the modern final “man of lawlessness” does by “the lie”, and the “operation of error” right at Bethel, the last point of Christian ministerial validity until the GB coup of 1970-1976 developments.

The GB has a covenant as a “body” with themselves, and thereby lift themselves over the “body of the Christ” and left the “holy covenant” at that time, but the trend was heading lawless and apostate even before that time.

At least JWs exposed the first two UN placements. The Bethel downfall will create an accelerated final recovery ministry to warn of the 4th UN placement, and explain the 1990 3rd UN placement globalization developments WHILE a tribulation is active, just like WW1, and the Kingdom of God will give one final warning, as the second witness (Rev10:11), prior to 8th King world government completion.

Then the you know what will truly hit the 8th King fan. The temple judgment will start the final prophetic cycle taking a few last years to arrive at Armageddon, and 8th King world government, the rival sovereign completion God and Christ await for their own sovereign Kingdom of God Almighty response.

JWs who make the wheat cut, and others joining in, have a lot of work to get done in the final recovery, leading to the final 1260 days, but it will take place because it is God who “causes my two witnesses to prophesy” the final invitation and warning. (Rev10, 11:1-7).

The Bethel apostasy and downfall will just get the world’s attention as the context of the final Kingdom announcement that will come forth from that judgment, first. (1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14; Rev8:1-6 replication final fulfillment) Zech3:1-5.

On internet confusion regarding Bethel reproach…

On internet confusion regarding Bethel reproach…

All this portion of the thread is a TESTIMONY to the Bethel foretold lawlessness (Dan11:32=2Thess2:3) culminating in 1990 fulfilling the critical BIBLICAL cues of a pattern fitting ALL of Daniel 11:30-35 at that time;

But unfortunately even JWs are now Bible dumbed down to the degree the GB’s word has more authority with them than God’s own prophecy of the 1990 3rd UN placement (Dan11:30-31) covered up at Bethel as per prophecy (Dan8:12b), while on the other hand they acknowledge the UN “new world order” initiative as UN pluggers (no pun intended; Dan11:31b)) as UN NGO (Dan8:13), a very serious sin, in fact the “transgression causing desolation” soon first to Bethel as per Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment; (Bethel reveals 2Thess2:3 NOW);

And how were JWs so severely turned mentally and spiritually backward in regard to the Bible?

By purposely following the stagnant fake anointed of the Governing Body and Bethel clerics (Zech3:1-3), who are NOT waiting on Jehovah, but are waiting on the final 8th King world terror and war activation to signal the “tribulation of those days” will begin at that time, or subsequently in the JW temple desolation FORETOLD as that signal event; (Dan8:13-14)

The other way JWs are misled is organizational “righteous overmuch” imbalances and overkill busy body works with an over-focused ministry and gnat straining attitudes now imbibed with PURPOSEFUL 8th King deception in Daniel 8 and 11, carried over from former times of well meaning, but premature guesswork by Fred Franz, subverted now by the 8th King GB (Dan8:11-12; Dan11:30 “those leaving the holy covenant”); Now a USSR that cannot fulfill even Daniel 11:36,

(Daniel 11:36) And he will certainly prove successful until [the] denunciation will have come to a finish;

That OBVIOUS impossibility for the USSR is retained to advance a premature expectation in JWs, in prophetic expectation of  “Daniel 11:44” next with a King North decoy (as even the USSR is fiction as KN), as the real King North (8th King), covered up and aided by “invaded” Daniel 11:41 Bethel is 8th King 3rd (Dan11:31b) and 4th placement 8th King UN (Dan11:45);

This deception, retained for 20 years at Bethel, cannot simply overlook this easy to see USSR failure cannot “be successful” all the way to Armageddon’s time at Daniel 11:45:

Again READ IT for yourself from GOD:

(Daniel 11:36) And he (8th King not USSR) will certainly prove successful until [the] denunciation will have come to a finish; (at Daniel 11:45);

And so now the required temple desolation for the UN NGO Bethel treason against God’s Kingdom:

(Daniel 8: 13) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the (profaned) constant [feature] (of implied anointed JW ministerial offerings affecting all JWs) and of the transgression causing desolation (UN NGO alliance and co-promotions fulfilling Daniel 11:31b), to make both [the] holy place (temple “established place of the sanctuary”) and [the] (JW worldwide) army things to trample on?” (in 8th King first “attack” “trampling” paralleling as context of Revelation 8:1-6);


Leading to a Temple Timed Judgment Period of the Near Future:

(Daniel 8: 14) So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings (1150 day minimum, possibly 2300 days); and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its (temple fully cleansed) right condition.” (Temple purification completed in this time period parallel Zechariah 3:4-5, Revelation 8:1-5);

Can be covered up by the decoy Daniel 11:44 attack coming up very soon, as temple desolation context, prematurely applied to the next 8th King world war prelude developments (Rev16 replicating) to cover up a temple desolation of Bethel and the JW org “established place” that is divinely required to account for the 8th King GB Bethel lawlessness:

(Daniel 11:30) “And he (King North identical 8th King globalists) will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively (in a successful multi-faceted operation); and he (King North (8th King) globalists) will have to go back and will give (unique Dan8:12 a subversive) consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. (Post 1919-1922 Christian anointed at this time only Jehovah’s witnesses anointed);

(Daniel 11: 31a) And there will be (spiritual) arms that will stand up, proceeding from him (8th King/ King North globalists parallels Daniel 11:41 Bethel “invasion”; Luke 21:20); and they (8th King and “those leaving the holy covenant” team effort partnership) will actually profane the sanctuary (anointed temple condition (Zech3:3)), the fortress (organizational “established place”/”holy place”; Dan8:11, 13), and remove the constant [feature]. (compromised ministerial sacrifice in polluted condition (Mal1:5-8); “together with the constant feature” Dan8:12a)

Which resulted in the lawless UN NGO allegiance as Bethel and 8th King globalists collusion:

(Daniel 11:31b) “And they will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation. (United Nations in New World Order initiative 1990; with the Bethel UN NGO 1991); (Compare Daniel 8:13 “transgression causing desolation” to this termed “disgusting thing that is causing desolation” as they are related in Bethel transgression (Dan11:31b) leading to Bethel desolation (Dan8:13-14) soon as temple judgment required and temple desolation permitted for this critical transgression also marking “man of lawlessness” “set in opposition” activities of the foretold apostasy “in the temple”);

Now JWs organizationally distracted by a “man of lawlessness” production and acting job based at Bethel (Dan11:32a=2Thess2:3), all plainly foretold as 3rd UN placement of Daniel 11:31b leads continuously (Dan11:36) to 4th and final UN placement at Daniel 11:45, will now experience a worldwide temple judgment while thinking they are already in, like the GB, when in fact God is “1/3” purging JWs as Revelation 8 activates Rev8-11, in the great prophetic replication as the real Daniel 11:42-45 8th King developments must lead to Daniel 12:1, FOR REAL, “during that time” activating Daniel 12, and allowing “seven times” 2520 day completion of the “holy city” trampling DIVINE REQUIREMENT of the real anointed some years after temple judgment as Revelation 11:2 final 1260 days, final Kingdom completion warning is cross linked by replicating Daniel 12:7 (1260 days), leading to 4th UN placement of replicating Daniel 12:11, the final separation of sheep and goats, and then Armageddon;


IF ONLY JWs paid attention to “the more important things” LIKE GOD’S WORD rather than unrepentant “lifted up” sinner men in the GB and aloof Bethel elitism to be desolated by God and Christ; (2Thess2:3-4, 8; Zech3:4-5)

The organizational ministry in imbalance is being used to blind JWs into remedial levels of prophetic awareness applied in parroted Bethel fashion over and over and over, and misled by a Bethel “lawless one” obvious UN NGO allied charade as JWs are now THE historic reproaching UN organization; (Zech3:1-3; Dan8:13);

Bethel is INACTIVE and DISASSOCIATED and APOSTATE, Jesus says FLEE TO THE MOUNTAINS as the UN NGO stands where it ought not be; That is all a Christian now has to do, and spread the news of the temple judgment as best one can, because Bethel is toast; (Zech3:2) for that sin, and many others, as millions have stumbled over GB led conduct, and PLUMMETING JW growth rate now sub 1% lows, from pre GB 10-15% highs;

Wake up JWs; (Matt25:5); You are now UN’s witnesses, if we ignore the obvious, and are by Bethel sanction UN 3rd placement PUBLIC WORLDWIDE HISTORIC co-promoters; JWs repeat the Israel and Christendom pattern as ALL THINGS are repeating even now in JWs and the GB “man of lawlessness” as UN NGO foretold 8th King partners;

Temple Judgment – Book of Hosea Primer for JW Bethel Judgment of Daniel 8:11-14 – Near Future JW Temple Desolation and Purifications

Prophet Versus Interpreter

The Final Cycle of Some Years Guaranteed


The author is God, the anointed writers of any spiritual certainty are just relays as all truth comes from God, through Christ; (2Pet1:19-21);

The next world war prelude war and terror cycle, to activate soon to aid cover up of a massive financial deficiency and monetary implosion will tell you when the final cycle has begun;

It will be unmistakable FROM INCEPT onward to the final UN world government (Dan11:45; Dan8:25) that all this WILL lead to over a brief period of some years, and the BIGGEST world tribulatory cycle of world history pulsing it all forward, to further affirm (Hag2:7) where is is all leading: “the end”;

But God is requiring JWs finally cleansed in Dan8:14 temple judgment, after that timed period expires, to also give the final 1260 day world warning of impending Kingdom of God completion;

The ultimately 8th King inspired coming “firecracker” will wake you up to at least consider the severity of the coming plunge of many people and institutions in all the nations to aid national surrender of sovereignty (Rev17:12-18) and their assets and properties (Dan11:42-43) to aid the final gathering (Rev16:13-16) into a final defiant globalist 8th King world institution of world domination containing all the nations and their resource aid for final conflict with a concurrently completing (all 144000) Messianic King to make a “mess” of the 8th King at that Rev16:12-17 climax of 8th King national control called Har-Magedon;

That is the signature cycle, leading to the signature event of God;

All will plainly “hear” the 8th King “firecracker” begin the event; What is is ascertained as in reality of what it will actually be (Rev8-11), will vary; It is the end cycle, over a few last years, well warned in time, and propetically gauaged in Daniel 12 parallel to Rev8-11 final activation at JW temple judgment and the Bethel desolation;

[QUOTE who=”El cacique”]<quoted text> Do you see yourself as a prophet?.[/QUOTE]

What is a prophet?

(Amos 7:14) Then Amos answered and said to Amaziah: “I was not a prophet, neither was I the son of a prophet; but I was a herdsman and a nipper of figs of sycamore trees.

Amos, who many consider to be a prophet of God, did not consider himself a prophet;

Prophets rarely if ever ascertained the meaning of the prophecy; Prophetic interpreters, when driven by God, explain the meaning;

But in JW history, we never did ascertain things until after they happened as to detailed prophetic meanings of Revelation 6-19, active now since even the first 8th King budding League of Nations was instituted along with the Messianic Kingdom foundations, all making world rulership claims at the same exact moment in world history;

Now it is all repeating Revelation 8-11, in which the JW temple purification from judgment desolation (Dan8:13) starts the cycle;

So I am not a prophet, and not an interpreter, because IT IS ALREADY THERE IN THE ORIGINAL JW UNDERSTANDING!

It is merely repeating, upon the exact same minor principles then, repeating to finality now, beginning with the JW temple desolation judgment (temporary removal of the “constant feature” ministry), replicating to a COMPLETE form, over some years of marked Bible prophecy, so people can decide the only choice by that time:

Live under 8th King UN global government, or live under God’s Messianic Kingdom, because that is ALL that will be present as even now the worldwide national bankruptcies will lead to 8th King financial world rulership (Dan11:42-43);

I am just a person pointing out that is is starting to repeat;

Even now, the lawless Bethel condition, seen in their UN NGO co-promotional allegience, signals 2Thess2:3-4, 11 is also replicating in a JW apostasy seen by few JWs – also a repeating principle as the Jews were blind as well, and so was Christendom as the also aligned in 1919 with the 8th King “league of Nations”, which also repeats in Bethel JW UN NGO;

EVERY element of EVERYTHING, is ALL repeating, again (Rev10:11) – how much clearer can God possibly make it?

And that is why God uses repetition for emphasis to see who is paying attention, and who has fallen asleep, plain and simple, JWs should understand this now, it is only repeating again, but after the Bethel’s massive desolation, and no God coming around to deliver JWs, but to judge us first (1Pet4:17), JWs will start to catch on, God will help, because the transgression of UN alliances will be accounted for, and the Bethel clerics of the modern “man of lawlessness” will have been removed; (Isa66:6)