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Bethel Record Main Source of Opposition

Bethel Record Main Source of Opposition

The real growth is in stumbled and disillusioned people and JWs. And not by “theological” reasons, but by Bethel scandals, unscriptural policies and questionable alliances (UN NGO). (Bethel’s actual “growth” could actually be a decline easily sold off with the baptismal rate, that is miniscule in context of the scale of the loss. Saying four times as many people are stumbled away from “the truth” is conservative. There may be more stumbled and disgusted people than there have ever been JWs since 1930.)

Thus the entire nature of “the opposition” has also shifted more and more to using Bethel’s lawless record to establish discredibility. In effect Bethel’s own merely denied lawless policy structure and dictatorial hierarchy is their own worst enemy. People are fleeing for good reason, Bethel is criminal by it’s own record, not “theology”.

Thus most people do not see this twenty year old transformation. (2Cor11:13-15) And in effect JWs and their critics are both subverted from comprehending what is really happening, Bethel is exposing themselves, by their own rules on “Christendom”, as the latest classic apostasy.

Bethel has a technique to divert this awareness of their own major apostasy. They shift focus to the opposition.

It is so ingenious to be beyond “accidental”. The transformation of the overall Bethel condition also shows intelligent design, rather than the surreal hypocrisy and stupidity they project as but another veneer to conceal the Biblical apostasy that always applies to the leadership in history, not the man on the street, or whipped and beaten sheep in the pews. It is Bethel itself that is the core apostasy among Jehovah’s witnesses.

Thus focus on others and projecting surreal stupidity aids concealing the development, and it’s gradual implementation is why it is not recognized by many.

To see the brilliance of the diversions and cover up is to indicate a design is at work, just as thorough as any organized religious brainwash on earth. It is now by it’s own descriptions a “part of Babylon the Great” and “rides the wildbeast” real-time as the latest “new girl on the street”.

It is just interesting how people are incensed about Bethel, but are not seeing Bethel is defining their own apostasy, by their own rules of apostasy in past cases, that forms in the “priesthood”, that is the big defection that occurred in Israel and organized institutional mainstream Christianity.

Bethel also has a theological fictionally applied framework to further conceal their downfall as “prophecy fulfilling”, but it won’t be the prophecy JWs are misled to believe will be fulfilling.

So Bethel to have all this, and a theological “self fulfilling prophecy” that can cover Bethel’s legal “desolation”, is showing design, an organized subversion. Now Bethel to go into heightened legal justice for various criminal policies in writing and practice, can be sold to JWs as “the world’s attack”, when it is actually Bethel’s own criminal activity that will aid Bethel’s legal problems of the future, that are merely state justice being applied to pedophile harborers and dictators of life and death commands that have affected human life and death in some cases.

(Bethel inquisitional overkill and capture of the JW conscience is how this kind of liability formed. Had they just let people’s own conscience dictate their own decisions, then Bethel would not have liability written into their policy “commands of men”. The disfellowshipping complex of overkill is what is Bethel’s own gallows).

It is as if Bethel has set-up and documented as policy that leg of their legal deconstruction. They are an overdue global target for many many lawsuits. In my opinion it will be in the context of major financial set-ups that will also aid the seizure of Bethel for legal reasons, not the “attack on Babylon the Great” that Bethel has set up to sell that downfall aided from within, to JWs a “prophecy is fulfilling brothers!”

Thus Bethel also has a well inculcated “prophetic” smokescreen in place as well.

It is Bethel, not the world, that is bringing its own self down, and they want to sell that to JWs in their well engineered “self fulfilling prophecy” by misapplied and fragmented “Bible prophecy” as the fault of someone else as a “persecution”, when in fact Bethel’s own criminal network is merely being prosecuted globally however that must unfold, FOR IT’S OWN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

Now a growing wave of public disgust with Bethel will also aid the set-up and fervor to see it all as legal justice from the national legal powers who clearly see the Bethel humpty dumpty set up on their own wall for accelerated deconstruction when the national debt condition starts to really unwind in more serious ways globally.

Bethel is a bowling pin and they set themselves at the head of the rack. The final diversion is selling that legal justice as “the attack of the Assyrian”. In Bethel’s case the “Assyrian” has every right to shut down that corporate criminal racket, it is not “persecution”, in Bethel’s case it is justice long overdue.

On The Bethel Symbol of the Christian Anointed Ministry (and Judgment)

On The Bethel Symbol of the Christian Anointed Ministry (and Judgment)


Help me out buddy
Why do you think a [Bethel] 501c American book publishing house has ANYTHING

THEY [Bethel] could be time life or publishers clearing house
It’s just a printery that hawks religious genre publications 

The point of this response is “Bethel”, the “Watchtower Bible and Tract Society” (WTBTS), the “Watchtower Society” (WTS), “The Watchtower” are not the anointed Christian temple reality in the anointed Christian remnant still on earth who assumes the real judgment meaning and target of all the Bible symbols of “temple” “holy place” judgment.

But Bethel and the other secular symbols of that anointed Christian ministry are world known entities that have assumed a claim of being that anointed Christian ministerial “established place” (Dan8:11) and “fortress” (Dan11:31a), and so are good publicly known elements to bring Daniel 8:13 “trampling” and “desolation” upon, because of this high profile of world awareness.

In this way, when the “desolation” and “trampling” for the UN NGO is brought about later, people can also more easily make the connection between a world seen divine judgment event “on Bethel” as really the anointed Christian judgment under it all, by reality or claims, that is really what has been judged, for good and bad outcomes. That it starts the final cycle of prophecy to Christ’s arrival will be made more clear as time goes in in Daniel 8:14 (temple judgment) and Daniel 12:7 (cleansed final warning) identified time periods whose start-points are unknown, but whose overall meaning is known.


Exactly. It has nothing to do with being idolized as the center of salvation.

BUT, it has made the claims, it is a target with immense assets, protected by gullible dolts.

So, for God it will make the point of the connection and association to the original Christian ministry that came forth as the globalist world government foundation was laid as the League of Nations.

And since the global tribulation is greatly financial in nature (Dan11:42-43), in time the globalized recovery must be 8th King monetary and finance globalization.

It is the end of the nation-state sovereign system. World government will in time become a global known issue en route to inevitably becoming for final actual global authorization. World government will become widely known as the final world war is playing out, engineered for the same effect as WW1, WW2, and Cold WW3, to present?


For the King North 8th King boys in and around Bethel it is 5 billion in free assets, so they will not pass up this mark. And the derivatives and HFT context of the Daniel 11:42-43 prophecy AND it’s world reality of globalist world finance control, will provide the perfect context of Bethel’s implosion, financially.

And JWs just so happen to EXPECT it, but for all the wrong reasons. Rather than be “the end”, it will be instead the START of the final 8th King world government and world war cycle, number four, and there is no more.

So it is the Bethel worldwide ministerial identity, classic Bethel is no more even now, it is the known association to claimant anointed Christians that makes Bethel’s JW organizational “established place” (Dan8:11), the place to “desolate” to account for the UN alliances, and to get full and clear world attention for the final announcement of what it really means.

The final 8th King prophetic and world government development cycle will have started with the Bethel downfall, and the global financial intrigues of Daniel 11:42-43. It will probably start with an investment event 10 times larger than the 2008 CDO events. That was just a test, the final phase of GWOT can proceed as WW4 some time in this progression, for the 4th UN placement, this time, some years down the road, as actual “world government”.


Because prophecy already explains globalist intel involvement in the Bethel infiltration (Dan11:41), we know all these world government downplaying and King North/8th King concealing Bethel developments are not random, but 8th King guided.

Thus the Bethel downfall will allow later the real explanation to come forth, and it is 8th King related, and the world will be heading to world government, so the climax warning will be while the 8th King is ascending to King North global domination, the nation-state will fall, the 8th King is who will recover them, and in that financial system recovery is when all the nations will be fully unified as sovereign partners with 8th King world super-sovereignty.

Targeting Bethel will put the world’s attention upon the world government issue and the context of this apostasy. It is an 8th King intelligence operation allowed by an anointed defection years ago, at Bethel. “Bethel” itself is not the issue, it is just a symbol, the Christian ministry it represents is the issue, world government used to be it’s main import and tracking, and that is what it will refocus on as world government nears, and with it, God and Jesus Christ – for real.

Bethel Apostasy Foretold in Daniel 8 and 11

Is Bethel Part of Babylon the Great Now? Like a Babylon the Bethel UN NGO Annnex?

Organization is part of Babylon

As Babylon is a city [organization] that sits on the beast and who the Kings of the earth have committed spiritual adultery with
But the name of Jehovah is something different

Its Jehovahs Great name that he is jealous for, and it is his name that is a tower for the righteous to run and be given protection
And what makes us righteous is faith in Jesus Christ.

So the refuge and strong confidence is jehovah’s name for his sons

Yes. Since Jehovah’s Name is involved, and it’s great everlasting meaning of Purpose, He must of course hold an accounting that will be known, in time, in the nations as to why the judgment has occurred, in modern context of Bethel’s main sins, as this prophecy MUST have a final fulfillment:

(Ezekiel 36:22-24) “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Not for your sakes am I doing [it], O house of Israel, but for my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have come in.”’ 23 ‘And I shall certainly sanctify my great name, which was being profaned among the nations, which you profaned in the midst of them; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘when I am sanctified among you before their eyes. 24 And I will take you out of the nations and collect you together out of all the lands and bring you in upon your soil.

And in that call of repentance a far more full final witness will be given for salvation first, not threat of destruction from first Bethel’s own inquisition and presumptuous judgments.

How God will do this remains to be seen, that angels in covert missions will be involved is guaranteed in the temple recovery of what is really the final anointed Christian judgment, Bethel was merely the context of that initial clarification, but it’s burdens are no longer bearable even by God.

(Isaiah 1:13-15) Stop bringing in any more valueless grain offerings. Incense—it is something detestable to me. New moon and sabbath, the calling of a convention—I cannot put up with the [use of] uncanny power along with the solemn assembly. 14 your new moons and your festal seasons my soul has hated. To me they have become a burden; I have become tired of bearing [them]. 15 And when you spread out your palms, I hide my eyes from you. Even though you make many prayers, I am not listening; with bloodshed your very hands have become filled.

That bloodshed is stumbled and abused sheep beaten down by Bethel (Matt24:48-51), whose own beating is nigh, but it will start a major final phase of human history as well.

Obviously will still have to have mercy on misled and newbie Jehovah’s witnesses to be able to God willing, explain the meaning of the temple judgment when that time comes. (Rev8:7-12); We have to imagine the shock the Bethel “lawless one” is building up for JWs sincerely misled and unaware, as this “transformation” was very sinister and masterful. (2Cor11:13-15).


And in that explanation of Jehovah’s witnesses aiding and abetting world government information concealment of prophecy fulfilling, is also the plot of that part of the final exposition of the 8th King world government who WILL continue to move towards a full 8th King completion, beyond the current UN “image” scale of sovereign power, as the Messianic Kingdom will complete concurrent for the ultimate sovereign resolution.

In fact Daniel 11:27-45 already outlines national “south” and globalist “north” power to that conclusion, once the Bethel WW2 and USSR smokescreen is removed, and God WILL blow that lie away. (2Thess2:11-12).

Bethel like their 8th King seeks to conceal this inevitable revelation of 8th King as King North in that whole sequence leading to the 3rd and 4th UN placements, and in that concealment, the revealing of it must make the full explanation, because that 8th King world government WILL trigger Christ’s FULL Kingdom response.

But enough time will be given to make the final witness of Revelation 10-11, from the JW temple judgment of Revelation 8-9, that too must have a final full fulfillment, live and real-time. And it’s context will change the world’s complexion towards full globalized world government over those final years.

What is coming up will not be the previous Jehovah’s witness Kingdom drill, but the REAL thing coming for good.

Simple” It just repeats the core prophecy that led to the League of Nations the first time, as world government 8th King the last time. Daniel 12 MUST repeat to completion as well. (Rev10:6-8; Rev11:15-19);


I agree ..but it is very subtle …people are deceived in trusting an organization of men called Jehovah witnesses …having Jehovah’s name on them , misleads people to assuming they are God.
rather then trusting Jehovah who is a spirit.

Yes the whole manmade contraption is now a Bethel version replacement for Christ’s mediatorial authority. The “transgression” is terminal in other ways including the UN NGO; (Dan8:13; 23a);

Yes it is subtle. It’s history of subversion was from even times considering a “governing body” as Biblical, and that goes way back into the 1940s JW history. NEVER before 1976, did JWs have a GB dictatorship, and it certainly is not present in the Bible at Acts 15:1-33, that is all over-contrivance.

The rest was fabricated later, subtly, to fill that accepted “GB” cell with authority (1976), and gradually from there the “small horn” globalists were able to enter by anointed defection as shown in Daniel 11:30-31 that parallels this gradual development of subversion clue:

(Daniel 8:12) . . .And an (Christian) army itself was gradually given over (to 8th King subversion of Dan11:31a), together with the constant [feature] (profaned; Zech3:3), because of transgression (sin aids the development); and it kept throwing truth to the earth (cover up), and it acted and had success. (as Bethel testifies to the success of this lawless “operation of error”.)

In fact the main target of the Bethel prophetic subversion (Dan8:12b), also in Daniel 11:32-35, is to cover up THE VERY PROPHECIES THAT EXPOSE what they are really up to, WHILE Bethel is really up to it!

This is why Daniel 8:11-25 and Daniel 11:27-45 are now pure purposeful Bethel WW2 impossible fictional interpretations to aid concealment of the very prophecy that exposes them, in detail, “gradually given over”, live and real-time.

They even removed the word “gradually” from that lukewarm grey NNWT translation at Daniel 8:12.


When I read these obvious cut and paste multi-post posts (1/2, 1/5 etc) it always brings to mind what Jesus said:
… “When praying do not say the same things over and over again as the people of the nations do, for they imagine they will get a hearing for their use of many words.”

These are original posts of my Kingdom ministry, and this part of the Bethel apostasy now adjoined to the UN as UN NGO.

There is no “cut and paste” in a live ministry, and even if it were it is still the truth of what is to come upon the last place any Kingdom truth used to be present, in Jehovah’s witnesses.

Joining the UN 8th King and covering up Daniel 11:30-45 King North as only possible in 8th King apex globalist world power, as Bethel is now engaged in, is no joke to God and Christ, as it is to many JWs. (Matt24:15).

Thus taking on the preliminary warning work that will see Bethel go down for that UN NGO “transgression causing desolation” (Dan8:13), has a way of motivating itself by the spirit of the truth, that Jehovah’s witnesses have exchanged for “the lie” of that UN co-promotional alliance, rather than expose the historic 3rd UN placement at that time of 1990.

And that will now explain, before it occurs, just what it is you see befall the JW worldwide organization for taking in the “unclean thing” UN world government promotions, searchable on any WT Library CD as the “new world order” statements of George Bush Sr., and other noted globalists, now also in the Governing Body subversion center.

In effect, Jehovah’s witnesses, even true Christian anointed, have now lost focus of the true Kingdom issue identified in 1914-1919 as the International Bible Students identified the true Messianic Kingdom sovereign issue as the globalist backed League of Nations arose. (Rev13:11-15).

Many newbie and even older Jehovah’s witness Christians do not fully understand just what it is we are supposed to be CONTINUING to do, and what it is that this ministry is founded on as it’s main theme, also the main theme of the Bible.

Tracking BOTH the globalist world government development (Dan11:45) and it’s completion (1Thess5:1-3), AND the Messianic Kingdom 144000 completion is what true Christians are commissioned to carry out, to the full.

Jehovah’s witnesses no longer track their Bethel 8th King pals, and by that have lost Kingdom focus. This is why Jehovah God keeps experienced Christians in the work to forewarn as many Jehovah’s witnesses not asleep, as to what is coming. Not the end, but the beginning of the final cycle.

True Christians know our Bible more fully than 1000 Bethel’s, because Bethel is an evil slave UN allied system, and their cover-up and UN NGO is the proof.

Now all Jehovah’s witnesses exposed to this message, can later realize this is the reason why God will judge “the organization” just like any other idol that is placed above Jesus Christ. (Zech3:2);

Anointed Christians are required to repent of Bethel’s lawlessness, and even of them only 5 wise virgins will make this coming cut.

Christian Anointed Nod Off

Is The Governing Body Biblical or Divinely Appointed

“is jw leadership appointed by god ?/? ! ?” – JW leadership Biblical? 

No. The “body of the Christ” is the only divine entity identified in the Bible as Christian anointed.

The “governing” “body” is a fictional JW papal-like system; a collective “Pope”. Fred Franz condemned the “governing body” as a fraud synod, between the lines. (Gilead talk; 1975) That “body” is naturally “set in opposition” to the “body of the Christ”.

PDF “The Man of Lawlessness – Governing Body Based Bethel UN Prophetic Deception Operation”;

This is why the “Governing Body” adjoined JWs to the UN, at UN 3rd placement of 1990 as Daniel 11:31b, and covers up King North as 8th King henceforth.

The Bethel system is now UN NGO signaled for Matthew 24:15 judgment because JWs used to have a valid Kingdom proclaiming ministry now diverted.

Bethel Apostasy 1990 – Jehovah’s Witnesses UN NGO and the UN Prophecy Tracking Lost

Now as the 8th King heads to world government as Daniel 11:45, JWs are not connecting the 3rd UN placement (Dan11:30-31) as a required continuum (Dan11:36b) that leads from 1990 to Armageddon a number of years after Daniel 11:42-45 activates enroute to 8th King world government soon.

Instead JWs are misled by the Bethel apostates that it is “the end”, but in fact it is just the beginning of the final prophetic cycle. The Bethel judgment of Daniel 8:13-14 begins the cycle as 1Peter4:17, as Revelation 8:2-5 replicating now upon JWs.

Instead, as stated, the UN will require the ten years or so after that Bethel downfall to complete that world government now in progress as the “New World Order”:

8th King United Nations World Government Final Cycle – Final Prophetic Replication and Milestones

The modern JW “leadership” is the final version of the “man of lawlessness” because they divert the last point of Kingdom truth into UN NGO and other error to aid that final 8th King world government formation. The “operation of error” of 2Thess2:10-11; Zech3:3;


Watchtower is a Distraction

Watchtower is a Distraction

Sadly, you make the claim that scriptures I posted are out of context. Yet, you fail to point out to your audience how they are out of context.

Wrong wording; It is that many in the Christendom overall apostasy IDd after 1918 have no actual context; That they pick scriptures that appeal to self glorification at the same time avoiding “hell fire” which is thus not a choice, but a coercion;

The fundamental logic of thousands of scattered church teachings are therefore fundamentally serving self glorification with a persuasion of a “hell fire” that does not exist, meaning churches are not teaching the truth;

And that is the problem IDd in 1918 and now made obvious for millions to flee from that Babel like instituion;

Now JWs have a similar apostasy at work, not to re-introduce Babel and church error in theology, but to align JWs in a very dangerous spiritual relationship with the UN as UN NGO, thinking it is all harmless;

That infraction (Dan8:13-14) is going to cause a JW organizational destruction of Biblical proportions, not so much physical but financial and governmental, the main method of making a ministerial operation cease;


Than you once again repeat lies of WTS teachings as being in context.
Prove one prophesy of the WTS or the ones your making up have has come true?

Few prophecies were ascertained before they fulfilled in the past, so there is no “false prophecy” as far as the sovereign progression of Daniel 2, 7, 8 and 11, until recently the GB covers up 8th King prophecy as King North from Daniel 11:27-45; That is the 3rd and fourth, final UN placements of world history in Daniel 11:31b and Daniel 11:45 respectively;

We ascertain the GB error, along with their UN alignment as UN NGO, to see why they cover up the final two UN placements in Bible history for it is the Daniel 11:36 REQUIRED continuum to Armageddon;

Churches do not understand Daniel and Revelation’s connection to the sovereign progression of world national powers, being globalized into a UN world government; JWs had that made apparent by historical patterns fitting the prophecy; But today, like the churches, JWs are not aware that globalization is the main “gathering” power of Revelation 16:12-16 which leads to Armageddon;

So JWs have indeed accurately INTERPRETED most prophecy after the fact to identify a worldwide development that will unify all national powers on earth into the 8th King consolidation of globalist world government; And that is why it is an 8th King; Daniel 11:42-44 + Rev17:12-18 = Rev16:13-16 (Dan11:45) which is Armageddon;

The churches and the lone “Christians” thinking they are going to a Kingdom them scarcely understand, by scarcely understanding the rival 8th Kingdom have NO idea of Revelation or Daniel sovereign prophecy and it’s progression to the end of the world of all opposed to Kingdom of God world rulership; The churches do not put together the most simple test of loyalty to God’s Kingdom, but instead back up te United Nations as a form of God’s Kingdom “on earth”, and such traitorous harlotry is of course why they do not understand Daniel or Revelation or what it really means;

Therefore the churches are part of the puppet “false prophet” and anti-Christ system portion, that will lead you guys to the 8th King UN 4th placement, GUARANTEED, that is the Kingdom the churches, and now even JWs as UN NGO are serving;

The desolation of the JW ministry is to also remove the lawless elements covering up the final portion of Daniel 8 and 11 sovereign progression to 4th placement UN world government; The impostor GB cannot overturn previous understanding, but tey can divert attention away from the final prophetic cycle and world tribulation developmental cycle required for the UN to become a world government in control of all the nations;

JWs nailed the identification of the UN “image” as Rev13 and 17 significant, but are now diverted from the reality that image ultimately represents a final world government globalist unification against God’s Kingdom of all the nations on earth, which must complete and make sovereign final claims before God’s Kingdom wipes it out at Armageddon; There is not much time left in the world, 7 to 10 years, maybe a little more, and the churches are even lass aware of Biblical reality then most JWs; Organized JWs need to be desolated and purified to teach the full truth;

There will be a massive final world collapse, tribulation and unique world war, and a recovery (Dan8:25; 1Thess5:1-3); leading to the 4th UN placement made fully vocal to all the world in the process; That is not a “WT teaching”, instead it is being diverted by the Bethel apostasy, but it will come true because now we have i former fulfillment at World War 1, simply repeating at final world war, to be resolved for the UN world government, “NO wars and NO reports of wars” (Matt24:6);

And that is the end;

World Recovery After World War 4 – Daniel 11:27-45 3rd and 4th Final United Nations Placements

Bethel Man of Lawlessness Covers Up UN 3rd Placement 1990 Meaning

A thread statement…

Quite a popular thread, if we compiled it we would have a book or so.

So whether it is God’s name in itself as the original overall meaning as Almighty GOD, or Jehovah, YHWH, Yahweh and the Hebrew specifically personalized form in it’s many post Babel forms, such purified hallowing, or sanctification from human and demon error is also important to some human beings, and it is far more important to God and the Sanctifier Jesus Christ the Chosen One as Christ means such.

Thus wayward and reproachful Bethel as the main well infused and well hidden internal wormwood home system now (Rev8:10-11; Dan11:30-35), well seen externally now (2Pet2:1-3), must in time fall further into divine judgment as 1Peter4:17, as Daniel 8:13-14 indicates God will clean His own Name (even among JWs; Isa37-22-28), by action of Destroyer (Rev9; Zech3:1-9) as messenger of the covenant (Isa63:9; Mal3:1-5) now falling also into befouled (Zech3:1-9; 2Thess:1-4) reproach.

This will be in the beginning of the final 8th King cycle of financial globalization (Dan11:42-43) that must precede the final progression to world government as 8th King final UN system (Dan11:44-45; Rev11:7; 11:11-15).

And that will take some years. The timed JW temple judgment as those saying the USSR is King North,. must be removed to reveal the 8th King from Daniel 11:30-45 as King North in 3rd and 4th Un placements of Daniel 11:31b and Daniel 11:45 “palatial tents” of world government, now also covered up officially by Bethel central “man of lawlessness” complex.

Timed Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses – Daniel 8:13-14

I certainly hope JW and Bethel lawlessness has not caused people affected by such diversionary tactics of the Devil to have lost focus on the Bible truth of the first two UN placements of 1919 League of Nations fulfilling Revelation 13:11-15 and the United Nations of 1945 fulfilling Revelation 17:8-11. Though the 3rd UN placement is now covered up by Bethel and JWs, as Daniel 11:31b in 1990 following the cold war (Dan11:29), the 4th UN placement of Daniel 11:45; (parallel Dan8:25; Dan12:11) will be proclaimed as last decade Christians as JWs recovered as wheat from the Bethel weeds AFTER the coming Bethel timed desolation of Dan8:13 “trampling” for UN NGO transgression as Dan8:14 temple judgment “right condition” purification.

Bethel covered up the third of 4 UN placements, they will NOT cover up the last UN placement 4, and news of the 3rd UN placement of 1990 as Daniel 11:30-31.

As far as LIVING prophecy, to those staying awake NOW, or being woken up now or paying attention as commanded continuously, listening to God by holy spirit through the Christ rather than fallen men at Bethel (Dan11:30b), it is NOW obvious.

It is undeniable Bethels modern role as “man of lawlessness” of the current JW cover up, and no one befouls God’s name, and walks away in the end. (Zech3:1-4). And neither will Bethel, just because they use former anointed credibility and fancy suits to ply their deception among JWs and the world.

You have as much right, in fact more right, to take up the coming final Kingdom ministry, NOW, as Bethel has failed as foretold. Do not let LIARS in the Bethel top system (like, but not limited to, the Governing Body lawless ones), who mislead JWs, make one believe they are pre-approved (2Thess2:4), and infallible. They are the “man of lawlessness” lead clerics and spokesmen (2Cor11:13-15) that awake Christians KNOW must signal the FINAL temple judgment as a REQUIRED PREREQUISITE AT 2 THESSALONIANS 2:1-4.

What will activate very soon, will go on for several years. Let us be ready for the ride. Christ shall be King, not the UN “No World Order”.

Final Temple Judgment and Jehovah’s Witnesses



Bethel Red Flags – The Moment of Awareness of Bethel’s Apostasy

Bethel Red Flags – The Moment of Awareness of Bethel’s Apostasy

1. UN alliances

I decided to add the second development that finally aided my own awareness of the Bethel atmosphere of organized transgression.

2. General perception of lack of holy spirit and a blase’ JW attitude to actual Bible research and study.

Elders didn’t like me hanging out in the library, witness parties never featured Biblical discussion, JWs seemed to treat ministerial positions and titles more like a business achievement, a noticeable attitude of complacency and self righteousness was displayed in NOT being able to simply discuss Bible teachings or WT teachings as these turned to seemingly defensive positions based on overall JW ignorance, not due to actual discussion but lack of actual understanding in JWs of basic WT doctrine.

Thus it appeared I was among robots, so free time studying seemed more useful than meetings featuring superficial scriptural therapy, ministerial depth development sufficient for remedial or absolute newbie discussion endlessly parroted, delusional back patting exercises based on merit of 1940s JWs, catalogue like detail to visual assessments, endless recordings of the same old scripts with no actual insight or enlightenment since 1960, basically a spiritual concentration camp starvation diet and a big zombie like show of past performance of other historic JWs prior to the UN GB implanted cell of corruptions.

Eventually the JW malaise, spiritual cancer and statistical plummet all has a GB inception point epicenter, further marked in trends by the UN NGO, as in retrospect, both mark a point in JW productive decline. In my opinion God was not happy with the GB celebrity council from incept (1976) since it is not in the Bible, thus a core lie in itself and reveals glory seekers more than Bile studiers. And I felt as a Christian in belief of God’s Kingdom, neither God or Christ was happy with the GB lackadaisical attitudes towards spiritually fornicating and treasonous UN alliances. (What actual anointed would bed with the UN to read books at the UN library? The whole things seemed but another lie, in a long line of lies since the GB self-invented it’s own Biblical existence.)

In hindsight it eventually became impossible to defend them while preaching when in time I saw they are in fact more likely “evil slave” and “man of lawlessness” principle workers of very basic Bible clues of corrupting influence contained in key symbolic descriptions, and what that leads to in time; disaster. In the meantime their fruitage speaks for itself as does the atmosphere they create. We JWs have allowed corrupted and evil men to now direct the ministry for almost 40 years, again, it will prove a disaster in time. So I could no longer share in serious sins of Bethel origination, purpose and continued promotion.

3. Other obviously damaging polices

And thus as I tried to defend the GB on the web, it soon became obvious they are their, and JWs, and the public at large, own worst enemy. No one can do more damage to Bethel and more reproach, than they have created in and of themselves and their own brazen conduct of spiritual megalomania and presumptuousness. The GB is the worst spiritual enemy in human form, that JWs have ever known up to this time. (2Thess2:1-4).

I will tell you now, the GB will equal a JW and ministerial disaster and will eventually be heaped into the dumpster of time, with other errors of the past that somehow were accepted as Christian formerly. (Zech3:1-5).

There is no such thing as a “Governing Body” in the Bible, plain and simple, and in that lie is their main curse. They get about 40 years, and no more; (Rev8:12).

I am suspicious of Bethel developments…

I am Suspicious of Bethel Developments…

I am a Jehovah’s Witnesses, but I have now left JW org “Jerusalem” as per Matt 24:15 as the UN NGO signals the “disgusting thing” is indeed standing were it ought not be in the former JW Christian ministry.

I am not trying to preach to anyone, and do not know your JW background as far as understanding the theological framework, which helps understanding basics, to see how certain JW prophetic expectations will aid the Bethel crash operation, to see not only are they (Bethel) preparing JWs for an event, they have a theological set up to also cover up the actual reality of the event while it is in action. Thus there is more to the psychological preparation, some of it is decades old.

So your suspicion of such conditioned mental programming in action now in intensified form, I saw in your therapy thread, compelled me to give you some links that take your suspicion to the next level of information in terms of also:

1. Prophecy misapplied for creating a JW self fulfilling prophecy prematurely applied to cover up the Bethel worldwide event duration.

2. And the actual prophecies it is fulfilling, and why they cover up Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:30-31 meaning.

It ties in with that WT 11/15/13 pg. 20, par. 17, directive #3 order to follow any insane direction that may come from Bethel as “life saving direction”.
Though the logic connects into other developments actually to come after the Bethel organizational desolation, I think these links may have an extension of what I feel you clearly perceive from Bethel itself. What makes these analyses unique is it connects what is going on at Bethel as prophetic, and purposeful and connected to the final 8th King globalization process. Bethel works for UN objectives in reality, all undercover. Bethel is also conducting a purposeful stumbling campaign fueled by their lawless conduct, but there is much involved with the actual operation, they also want to attempt to destroy Bethel’s organizational and financial ministerial resource base, including JW capture.

I know your stressed a little, and this may seem odd, but I felt knowing the truth of Bethel to an even deeper level aids personal awareness and actually helps psychologically, rather than wondering, and knowing others see what Bethel is REALLY up to, and it is not good. As stated these articles and posts are not typical complaints and the usual Bethel based uproar, but are explanatory of the ultimate meaning of the Bethel anomalies and organized lawlessness, and that it does have a climaz coup being prepared.


How Bethel’s Hoax and End Game Diversion Works

On the Significance of the United Nations 1-2-3-4 Super-Cycle to 8th King World Government 1919 to Unknown Future Placement 4 – And The Bethel Cover UP

How to Set-Up JWs Like 8th King Sitting Ducks

JWs: Time to FLEE to the mountains!

The Total World Judgment “The Judgment” Begins With Jehovah’s Witnesses

Final Temple Judgment and Jehovah’s Witnesses



Concerning the Bethel Apostasy, what should I tell my son?

What should I tell my son concerning the Bethel lawlessness?

Tell him the truth, though all men be found liars, like Bethel’s current leadership, let God be found true. There is the Almighty God forever, human corruption is endemic since Eden’s sin, God provided PROMISE of the seed of recovery (Gen3:15), and that is still TRUTH, the truth. God tracked all that development of sovereign rival power, and his own Kingdom forming power through Daniel and to the apostle John and all the prophets for a good 2800 years of prophecy so accurate, it is now called world history.

Jesus Christ, the seed, the true solution, the first life created by God, from God, is also still true and the only true hope to retrieve men past, present and future from inevitable death in Adam. That is all still true, neither Christendom, Bethel or any other human organized diversion from truth can change reality that is actually true.

Thus tell your son the truth. Bethel’s primary leaders are now corrupted, they joined the opposing kingdom power as UN NGO, that will bring a judgment on JWs for that transgression (Dan8:13 as 1Pet4:17), and they will reap what they have sown, it is also foretold in prophecy they cover up (Dan8:12b) and truthfully, they no longer represent the truth, instead they drive millions and millions AWAY from God, but God, as before on several documented occasions of prophecy again becoming history will recover the final truth, again (Rev10:11).

You may get to the core of the dilemma, ask your son does he want to be taught about God and Christ by lawless corrupted men in the so-called Governing Body?

And I feel you can ask that question quite honestly while still maintaining core Christian truth, that truly at one time, 1914-1950 IBSA and JWs did at once truthfully represent as best they could, and they did expose the first 2 UN related fulfillments of prophecy in 1919 and 1945, rather than joining the UN, and covering up the 3rd (1990) and 4th (future) UN manifestations of Daniel 11:30-45, as Bethel also covers up King North as 8th King developments there, as their continual UN NGO internal Bethel endorsers are also prophetic subverters.

You may explain, truthfully, Jesus Christ warns Christians to flee the city (organization) once one personally ascertains the rival kingdom “disgusting thing” in it’s midst, and in principle that applies to Bethel as UN NGO and the JW organization overall:

(Matthew 24:15-16) “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation (UN NGO), as spoken of through Daniel the prophet (1990 Dan11:31b parallel to Dan8:13-14), standing in a holy place (Bethel’s claim), (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in (JW worldwide) Judea begin fleeing to the mountains. (leave JWs, judgment is nigh).

In my opinion explaining these core truths of Bethel’s corruption are important, and outweigh all their other sins (2Thess2:3-4) in direct guaranteed import of a judgment to come first upon JWs; (1Pet4:17).

Why Don’t You Disassociate Yourself?

Why Don’t You Dissociate Yourself?

JW 4 Life wrote:

LOLZ! Nice try. The real reason idiots like you and Karen won’t disassociate yourselves is because YOU know it’s Jehovah’s TRUE organization and you know the consequences if you officially leave it. You are spineless weasels. You come here telling interested ones YOUR opinions of how bad the GB is and for them not to join JWs. Yet, you say the reason YOU are still a member is because taking 5 minutes to write a letter and mailing it to the last congregation you were in is too much trouble. LOLZ!!!!! Hypocrites.
Here’s a sample letter for you idiots to write.
I, _______________, am writing this letter to formally disassociate myself from Jehovah’s Witnesses. I no longer want to be considered as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. I was baptized in _____________ and the last congregation my publisher record cards were at is the _____________________ congregation.
Here’s the link to look up the address of the congregation too.


I am not the apostate, nor is Bethel “God’s organization”, but a UN organization now.

Like Israel, the JW org WAS Jehovah’s organization, but is now also a UN family of organizations historic UN NGO organization ALSO;

And that fulfilled in 1991 as the 3rd UN placement of Daniel 11:31b heads to the final and fourth UN placement at Daniel 11:45 in CONTINUOUS manner:

(Daniel 11:36) “And the king (UN 3rd placement as globalizing world power)… will certainly prove successful until [the] denunciation will have come to a finish;

Obviously the USSR CANNOT “certainly prove successful until the denunciation” completes at Daniel 11:45;

And in that GB and Bethel treason against the Kingdom of God as co-promoting UN agency, in covenant, we have the “transgression causing desolation” of Daniel 8:13-14 timed temple judgment and it’s Bethel apostate (Dan11:32 is 2Thess2:3-4) requirement as the disassociated from God and Christ in that sin, defining the “lawless one” “set in opposition” “in the temple” as “man of lawlessness” and “lifted up” over every human on earth as sole FDS blasphemy piling on more sins onto all JWs (Zech3:1-3) at temple inspection completing now, as it has arrived on JWs, like Israel, Jerusalem or Christendom as a “thief in the night”;


Now the latest cultured Bethel “weeds” in the JW congregations, like all “weeds” of the past cannot simply listen to the Bible’s own PROPHECY, not “conspiracy” theory, but “lawless one” Bethel conspiracy prophecy as per 2Cor11-13-15 transformed JW leadership, now setting up JWs with an erred USSR interpretation easily ascertained from Daniel 11:36 hanging at Daniel 11:44 (attack mode) to allow the next 8th King war and terror world operations, coming SOON, to cover up the required temple desolation of Daniel 8:13 actually fulfilling;

As JWs are thrown into the final temple judgment, following the “man of lawlessness”, expecting deliverance at Armageddon, when in fact it is “weed” removal time with their idolized Governing Body and Bethel apostasy; All Jesus recommends as the “disgusting thing” UN NGO is placed at Bethel in 1991, well known now by many, but not all JWs is to FLEE:

(Matthew 24:15-16) “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.

There is no longer any true anointed association in a polluted constant feature featuring 8th King UN lacing; Now the temple judgment for this serious Daniel 8:13 “transgression causing desolation” will come on JWs completely expecting something else at Daniel 11:44, from an OBVIOUSLY diverted Daniel 11 “King North” error to cover up the thing all occurring in the 1990-1991 period of co-fulfillment with Daniel 11:30-32 also covered up (Dan8:12b) by the Bethel apostasy;

The JW “log” will be snatched from the “fire” of Zechariah 3:2, Rev9 JW “abyss”, but the “weeds” now displaying GB hubris will be left in the coming 8th King temple fire thrown onto the JW temple temporarily;

This cleansing of Daniel 8:14 “brought into it’s right condition” of Zech3:4-5, Rev8:2-5 and Mal3:1-5 is required to clarify the accurate Daniel 8 and 11 truth for the final ministry as now Revelation 8 will active again (Rev10:11), and lead to Rev9 JW temple recovery for the FINAL WORLD  WARNING OF GOD ALMIGHTY AND CHRIST at Rev 10-11; Minus the Bethel and JW apostates now congregationally protecting the final and modern “man of lawlessness” incurring sins against God, Christ, the anointed, all JWs, and all mankind in this deception aided by JW deception (Dan11:32) and lack of Bile awareness coupled with self-righteous pride and it’s denial and obligatory blindness;

All JWs will know when Bethel’s desolation begins, aided by 8th King inspired (Dan11:30-31) “man of lawlessness” Bethel apostate “armies” now “surrounding Jerusalem” as well in fulfillment of Luke 21:20; as that commencement is 1Peter4:17, timed at Daniel 8:14, as a signal of the final prophetic and 8th King completing cycle, as JWs will be in that abyss for at least 3 years and 70 days (Hos6:1-3) of the “evening” requirement of Daniel 8:14’s temple judgment;

Mark your Dan8:14 calendar when your Golden Calf Baal Bethel goes down; Te JW temple judgment leads in short time “little” “scroll” order to 8th King world government, the final 8th King JW attack (Dan11:44 is Rev11:7), Kingdom completion (all 144000 in), the final separation sheep/goat judgment (aiding completion (1Thess4:17), and then the end will come at Armageddon;

Try to make that separation, right now you are with the “weeds” about to be burned up; JW pride will not save you at temple judgment, repenting will;