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Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4

Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4

Individuals comprising the actual administrations and operations of the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry can repent, as can all Jehovah’s witnesses, in the purpose of the coming Temple judgment of Daniel 8:13-14. (Zech3:1-5) The question is will any of the former “Bethel” based Jehovah’s witnesses ministerial identity of that mundane tool, now apostate and UN allied as foretold, be used for the final warning ministry to form after the full recovery of the anointed Christian ministry by God and Christ?

“Bethel” is a term of the collective visible Jehovah’s witnesses ministry management utility, made up of a collective of global Jehovah’s witnesses individuals involved with the corporations, the “Worldwide Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, and its actual corporate functionaries and administrative systems as whole identified modern “established place” of the modern Jehovah’s witnesses Christian ministry.

Will God keep any of that now UN allied abomination? (Matt24:15; Dan8:13 “transgression causing desolation”) A final ministry will form in the final cycle of Revelation 8-11, but will it in any way, shape, or form, involve the former Bethel tool?

That is the basic question many Jehovah’s witnesses will have to ask themselves, in and outside of “Bethel”, when Daniel 8:13-14 erupts upon apostate Bethel as Daniel 11:41 in the future.

Also at:

Can Bethel Repent? Part 1 of 4
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/jw-temple-judgment/can-bethel-repent/can-bethel-repent-part-1of-4/

Modern Bethel Apostasy

Bethel certainly has real BIG problems of terminal apostasy in its leadership, such as a UN NGO sponsoring deal. (Dan11:31; Matt24:15)

Unfortunately, the Governing Body Show has given some Christians actual valid reasons for leaving. (Matt24:15) Not all but some, but they are better of out of the JW organization whatever the reason. (Luke21:20; Matt24:15; Dan8:13; Dan11:41)—because HEAVY JUDGMENT is coming on the “Bethel” system.

There are Governing Body ( GB) based crimes, hypocrisies and truly anti-Christian policies and alliances that are dubious to the point God has to have also seen these MAJOR PROBLEMS, as some Christians with true Kingdom awareness have—which is foretold. For example, joining the United Nations of Organizations, is NOT in God’s approval, no matter how Bethel spins it, it IS Matthew 24:15 as Daniel 11:30-32a, and Daniel 8:12.

(The Daniel 8:13 Temple “TRANSGRESSION causing desolation” to the temple “established place” of Daniel 8:11.)

In fact men who claim infallibility between the lines, and set up a self protecting illegal Bethel Inquisition Judiciary to condemn men, brothers even in the GB and Bethel system for years, to what they threaten as a spiritual death of Gehenna in their own over-extension of well “beyond the things written” authority, are always exposed in time, BY GOD, just like the Pharisees.

This JW Reformer’s article is very telling in this matter, in a very simple manner:

Jehovah Blesses Obedience
by Meleti Vivlon  Sep 25, 2015

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/09/25/jehovah-blesses-obedience/

“”We are reaping what we have sown, and the reproach we were hoping to avoid has been magnified 100-fold by our failed hypocrisy.””

Contrary to Popular Belief, Bethel and its Governing Body are Subject to Divine Requirements and Judgment Like Anyone Else

Now the point is, to God, LEADERS are not given “Special License to Sin”, which they ALL claim between the lines, like the GB. The LEADERS are given TOP ATTENTION from God when He inspects a ministry. (Zech3:1-3; Isa1-12; Hosea; Micah; Amos)

And when God gets to exposing and judging REAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY in a Christian LEADERSHIP, that itself is based on a Babel and Christendom “governing body” concept—as if divine, no questions asked— when it is not Biblical in the least, it will be completely revealed in time—as is the case of HOW Bethel devolved into an illegal idolatry. [1]

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AND THIS IS BECAUSE JEHOVAH GOD AND JESUS CHRIST HAVE INDEED BEEN USING JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES MINISTRY SINCE 1914 BY DIVINE DECREE. THAT IS THE TRUTH!
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So it is not that Jehovah’s witnesses “never had the truth”, it is that they DO have the truth, and so God WILL deal with the problem: The Governing Body of Apostasy and their UN NGO covenant with the UN, involving God’s people. (Daniel 8:13-14 as Daniel 11:41; Revelation 8:3-5)

It WILL get serious, it is no light matter, and it will PROVE this is Jehovah’s anointed Christian house (1Pet4:17), merely using a mundane ministerial resource “established place” (Dan8:11) “organized ministry”, that He WILL create ENORMOUS Judgment event upon FIRST, to wake up BOTH Jehovah’s witness and those paying attention.

“The Organization” and its so-called “Governing Body” have become one of these illegal idols in God’s eyes, and it does NOTHING to minimize, but only to promote, such a lofty place in Jehovah’s witnesses eyes. They even had the blasphemous audacity to declare themselves the “faithful slave”, playing seated “God’s”, in God’s temple arrangement by their OWN approval, rather than God and Christ’s by judgment first. (2Thess2:3-4)

And they have the premature “it can end any day brothers!” distraction well in place as well (2Thess2:1-2), to smokescreen final prophecy that can be explained in light of globalization development to culminate into 8th King World Government, to “ascend” and “heal”, upon the REQUIRED 7th King fall and “sword stroke” coming. (Rev13:3; Dan11:42-43; Isa41:1; Rev17:8-13; Rev11:7)

Most Everyone is in Denial in Their Own Way

Now true most JWs and most JW critics alike, do not want this to be the real reason why these Days of Jehovah’s Judgment are coming on Jehovah’s witnesses and the now idolized and UN profaned organization and ministry. (Zech3:1-5)

1. JWs want to think it is in the “right condition” since 1944. (Dan8:14)

2. Some JW critics want to excuse themselves from overall divine sovereign issue as Christians with this sovereign mission proclamation theme, so they want JWs to be invalid and the sovereign warning of 1914 off their backs, and to just do their ministry the way they want, particularly to its main sovereign message, getting lax on the UN reality as the Wildbeast forming to World Government—they want to deny that will come, and that that will trigger Christ.

A. Others simply are misled by all the controversy into the wrong conclusion as to what is really its cause at apostate Bethel.

And all of this is NORMAL for Adamic humans, especially when a Christian ministerial leadership becomes the hypocritical problem aiding the doubt!

Bethel is its own worst enemy and the number one global reproach of all the world as far as hypocrisy and lawlessness that aids the discrediting of the original Kingdom message of Jehovah’s witnesses, at both ends of its existence, from 1914 to today—Bethel is helping jackhammer the foundation and the final phase of the anointed Christian ministry within Jehovah’s witnesses ministerial identity by constant application of organizational “Golden Calf” idolatries, hypocritical alliances (UN NGO) and standards and codified globally public lawlessness sanctioned and blessed by Bethel’s Illegal GB Kings as silent (UN NGO) or stated policy (Child Abuse cover ups).

(Hosea 8:3-6) Israel has cast off good. Let one who is an enemy pursue him. 4 They themselves have set up kings, but not because of me. They have set up princes, but I did not know [it]. With their silver and their gold they have made for themselves idols, to the end that they may be cut off. 5 Your calf has been cast off, O Samaria. My anger has grown hot against them. How long will they be incapable of innocency? 6 For from Israel was even this. A mere craftsman made it, and it is not God; because the calf of Samaria will become mere splinters..

And by the events Jehovah Almighty God by Christ will bring on this derailed ministry (Dan11:41), and its GB Kings of Bethel, JWs can be freed and updated, and both groups, JWs and JW critics, can be awakened to the revived, updated and clarified final ministry that WILL form AFTER the Bethel Apostasy is dealt with in GLOBAL MANNER as decreed by God at Daniel 8:13-14. (Zech3:1-9; Rev8)

Bethel CLAIMS the Daniel 8:14 “RIGHT CONDITION” of the anointed “Temple” has been present SINCE 1944 [3], by a historic process of “organizational adjustments” that brought the congregations, branches and all of Bethel under the dictatorial rule of a “Governing Body” that went into Rogue Tyranny in 1976, against Nathan Knorr’s and Fred Franz’s wishes and stern advice! ON THE RECORD at Bethel and elsewhere; (such as Ray Franz’s book “Crisis of Conscience”, specifically chapter 4 details.)

1. THEY REBELLED in 1976 against the God set INDIVIDUAL ministerial spearheads since 1870.

2. They first peeped the “governing body” term in 1944, to a title in 1971, to a full dictatorship in 1976, to UN NGO in 1991, to today’s major GB based apostate problem with UN ties as the JW ministry has actually been in a downward spiral ever since 1944, very “gradually given over” as per Daniel 8:12 explicit apostate subversion prophecy. [4]

3. NOW the Temple “right condition” process they claimed was instituted under the post 1944 “right condition met” is actually what has formed the WRONG CONDITION in the anointed Christians ministry!

It IS what it IS: Foretold Christian Leadership Apostasy at Bethel! The Daniel 8:14 diametric “Wrong Condition” is what has formed instead in reality.

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Face the Music—The Temple Judgment

NOW the real Daniel 8:13-14 must come on Bethel as Daniel 11:41, because it is PLAIN AS DAY what the Governing Body Experiment in so-called “Theocratic Organization” has led to: The DOWNFALL of the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry, temporarily, in apostasy, UN alliance and total spiritual drunken slumber. (Matt25:5; Matt24:48-51; Zech3:1-3)

And now, in time, Bethel AND Jehovah’s witnesses will have to face, and give an account of the real Daniel 8:13-14, and Bethel’s false claims it has all been already in the “right condition”, as engineered by historic “organizational adjustments”, culminating in that 1944 “right condition” claim, in the 1999 Pay No Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy book. [3]

The 1970s final changes brought the whole JW ministry and corporate complex under Governing Body dictatorial, no questions asked, infallible, unapologetic, rigid authority, to the point they found it advisable to even join the United nations of Non Governmental Organizations, rather than explain the Outreach UN NGO Division’s true UN objective: Get all global organizations acceptable and willing to adjoin to the UN as well!

NOW the REAL Daniel 8:13-14 is coming on Bethel’s head.

1. Will they repent in public full disclosure?

2. Or will they continue in blind denial?

3. Will God even offer Bethel repentance at this point in the development after the accounting “trampling” is completed?

These are questions Bethel, Jehovah’s witnesses and others will ask in future days, as the real Daniel 8:13-14 manifests as Revelation 8:3-5, as Daniel 11:41 in the future FINAL Temple Judgment Cycle required to prepare the final Kingdom Proclamation and Salvation awareness opportunity and warning ministry in the RIGHT CONDITION.

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[1]

Governing Body Since Babel
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TNAEHPJ85H01JEPSL

[2]

The Governing Body Experiment—1944 to Present
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/the-governing-body-experiment-1944-to-present/

1944 Governing Body Birthday—1914-1976 WTBTS Board of Directors Coup Finally Realized
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/bethel-final-apostasy/1944-governing-body-birthday-19144-1976-wtbts-board-of-directors-coup-finally-realized/

[3]

How Daniel 8:14 Wrong Condition Developed in Bethel Since 1944
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/dan8/how-daniel-812-14-unright-condition-has-been-developed-by-the-profane-governing-body-since-1944/

[4]

Bethel Apostasy Foretold in Daniel 8 and 11
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/bethel-apostasy-foretold-in-daniel-8-and-11/

Daniel 8 and 11 Final Apostasy and 3rd UN Placement (1990) Connections and Parallels
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-8-and-11-final-apostasy-and-3rd-un-placement-1990-connections-and-parallels/

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Global Open Salvation—How Christ Completes His Own Ministry
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/global-open-salvation-how-christ-completes-his-own-ministry/

World Government and Premature “Fulfillment” of Prophecy

World Government and Premature “Fulfillment” of Prophecy

World Government and Premature “Prophecy”


Question: Can Satan wait until Christ arrives to pull off his grand finale of 8th King world government?

No, for then it would be too late.

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Satan’s Only Option: Premature Decoys

1. Thus the ONLY technique Satan can use is that of premature prophecy fulfillment illusions to cloak his own world government abomination under for those who can be fooled.

The technique of premature fulfillment and its false global expectations and impressions is to present his decoys as if the real thing:

2. The main counterfeit Satan will eventually erect for mankind is that of 8th King “scarlet wildbeast” World Government as if it is “Zion” and the “Kingdom of God”.

IMPORTANT: The demon and human version of the “Kingdom of God”, a rival global-sovereign decoy, MUST AND WILL manifest first. (Rev17:8-12; Dan11:44-45; Dan8:25; Rev16:13-16)

World Government Decoy of God’s Kingdom

Thus, plan accordingly and do not accept the illusion that human world government has anything to do with God’s Kingdom and Christ Messianic Kingdom, which Messianic Kingdom must also complete in this final sequence of prophecy in final fulfillment. (Rev10-11:1-12; Matt24:29-31; Rev14:1)

What marks this final cycle is the 7th King must fall (Dan11:42-43; Luke 21:9; Matt24:6), BEFORE the full and final 8th King “ascension” into world government can take place. (Dan11:44-45; Rev17:8-12; Rev11:7)

And in that global crisis period of 7th King King South system financial subservience (Dan11:42-43), known as the “tribulation of those days” (Matt24:29-31), the United Nations “image” (Rev13:11-15) must become inactive again at preventing the final global “sword stroke” phase (Rev13) from manifesting, to provide the 8th King global “healing” (Rev13:3) under which final global developments 8th King King North World Government can be presented in full to mankind. (Rev17:8-12)

1. The United Nations is also not the totality of 8th King power, it is only the international political nucleus “image” of its future completion center.

2. There MUST be a financial world government sector in completion as well. (Dan11:42-43; Rev13:15-18)

3. And there must also be the global military monopoly sector to define full world government. (Joel3:9-12; Rev16:13-16)

4. At which time the “one world religion” sector can also be implemented by the Babylon the Great global religious purge, which occurs under full world government to complete that fourth leg of world government—political, financial, military and religious. (Rev17:15-18; Rev16:12,19-20; Rev18)

Under 8th King King North world government “freedom from care” is when they also present the decoy world “peace and security” final sovereign proclamation. (Dan8:25; 1Thess5:1-3)

IMPORTANT: World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Temple Judgment First Signal with 7th King National System Downfall

To affirm this is the case the Bethel apostasy and UN NGO UN partnered covenant alliance is to be judged first (1Pet4:17) in the temple judgment of Jehovah’s witnesses (Dan8:13-14) whose visible events (Dan11:41) provide an identifiable context of a final anointed Christian cleansing manifestation (Zech3:4-5) to occur with the [start] of the 7th King downfall phase. (Dan11:42-43; Rev13:3)

1 Peter 4:17, Daniel 8:13-14, Zechariah 3:15, Malachi 3:1-5 and Revelation 8:3-5 will all manifest with the anti-JW-organization anti-Bethel events of Daniel 11:41, and that is the final temple judgment phase required to produce the final “two witnesses” warning after that judgment runs its full Daniel 8:13-14 course. Revelation 8-11 is the final “seven trumpet” sequence that will be activating with the first four trumpet temple judgment parallel of Revelation 8.

Apostate Bethel Stall of Everyone Uses Premature Delusion Technique

Of course Jehovah’s witnesses and others could easily put this final phase together as many now see the collapse of the US and EU financial systems coming to aid the 7th King downfall phase of Daniel 11:42-43. Because Bethel has devolved into a UN allied apostasy, JW are “not allowed” to examine simple final sequence prophecy. JWs are not allowed to do the simple math the the 8th King comes AFTER the 7th King falls, obvious 7-8.

And those holding everyone back, and suppressing Jehovah’s witnesses freewill to examine and move ahead with simple prophecy are the Bethel Governing Body of Apostasy. (Dan8:12; 2Thess2:1-4; Zech3:1-3) THAT is why they go down first with the JW organization, and they are telling JW’s just that, but they are misrepresenting the prophecy of Daniel 11:41 and Daniel 8:13 that that Bethel downfall will be fulfilling as.

Like Satan, the modern Governing Body of Spiritual Dictators (2Thess2:3-4) are also promoting the premature delusion of “the end” way too soon (2Thess2:1-2), to aid the cover of their downfall “trampling” by worldly powers which God requires and permits due to massive Bethel transgressions. Although Daniel 11:41 comes on Bethel next, they are over advancing JWs to “expect Daniel 11:44 next brothers!” to create the final smokescreen of reality.

They also cover up the 3rd UN global presentation of 1990 (Dan11:30-31; Dan8:23) as the real King North final world government sequence of the final two UN presentations, UN 1-2-3-4 total, the 4th UN event eventually coming up as full 8th King King North world government. World government will “ascend” globally once the 7th King synonymous King South fall has completed fully as Daniel 11:42-43.

Bethel’s retains the obvious blatant USSR is King North error, to keep JWs expecting Daniel 11:44 next, prematurely.

Thus the required temple judgment “trampling” of Daniel 8:13-14 will manifest on “lawless one” Bethel as Daniel 11:41 next, as Daniel 11:42-43 US and EU financial meltdowns begin to manifest in full blown form to affect the whole national world system. After 7th King downfall final “sword stroke” for global recovery “healing” phase (Rev13:3; Isa41:1), Satan will present the 8th King world government decoy in the Daniel 11:44-45 sequence as it must merge, live and real-time into the now obvious Daniel 12:1,7,11 final fulfillment sequence. (Dan8:25; Rev17:8-18)

Stalling King North awareness with the USSR error, is also how JWs cannot see that, of course, Daniel 11:41-45 must converge into Daniel 12 “during that time”, live and real-time, fully showing a final fulfillment cycle is necessary. (Rev8-11; Rev16)

So Bethel goes down first, just like they are saying to JWs. Except the real reason, and position in real prophecy, will be concealed from JWs as long as permitted by God. (Dan8:13-14; 2Thss2:11-12)

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World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

Temple Judgment to World Government to Christ Arrival


http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/temple-judgment-to-world-government-to-christ-arrival-revelation-11-and-daniel-12/

8th King/King North World Government as Simple as Possible
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/8th-kingking-north-world-government-as-simple-as-possible/

8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/8-kings-why-the-7th-king-anglo-american-national-system-must-fall/

When UN NGO Bethel Placed The Disgusting Thing
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/03/27/when-did-un-ngo-bethel-placed-the-disgusting-thing/

Repeating Cycles: The Whole Prophecy Repeats Starting With The Temple Judgment Portion


http://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/what-we-know-now-the-whole-prophecy-repeats-starting-with-the-temple-judgment/