Har-Magedon: Mountain of Military; Earth’s New Name under World Government
“”Where does it actually say in the Bible that people will survive armageddon? because I can’t find it. I I know it says in revelation that a great crowd stands before the throne of God, does it mean heavenly because I have been on other annointed websites who say there will be only a tiny remaining people who inherit earth a small remnant not a great deal of crowd? Thank you for your great service to us it is much appreciated and welcomed.””
(Revelation 16:13-16) And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. 15 “Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one that stays awake and keeps his outer garments, that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness.” 16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.
Now on this Armageddon word/term and its meaning, it has a global-situation to be recognizable in the future as the “nations are being gathered to” “Har-Magedon”. And what you question is good, it is what is sometimes called a “fine point”; I am glad you asked it because I am a bit lax in the way I use this Armageddon term, but now I am going to be more careful and precise and here is why.
Har-Magedon is NOT something like an “event” really to be “survived” it is a prophetic “global situation” that WILL become globally recognizable, it is something to look for in the future, a “sign” as it is also built up by demons “performing signs” for world leaders to aid this “gathering the nations” progression; this is a specific progression of global-military domination to be explained fully. But the “Har-Magedon” condition can umbrella some trying times as it matures to a recognizable global completion.
The Har-Magedon sign and global-development is a culmination of a certain signal global-condition which will get more obviosu as world government nears completion. Har-Magedon is two words as a hyphenated term, sometimes combined into one word: Armageddon. In Hebrew the word Har word means “mountain”. So we need to know which certain “mountain” which that “har” Hebrew word applies to Har=Mountain. It is no single mountain on Earth though, it IS Earth itself as this Revelation 16:16 “mountain”, indicating a global condition for starters upon this here “mountain of God”:
(Ezekiel 28:16) And I shall put you as profane out of the mountain of God (in reference to Satan’s authority over planet Earth “mountain of God”)
Har-Magedon is a planetary complete condition of the “Magedon” global-state wherein “Magedon” is related to “Megiddo” in its “military fortress” root meaning, a “military establishment” in this final case a signal one, one controlled by 8th King world government in time. Now we know this is a “mountain” of planet Earth under a “military establishment” in that “Magedon” word meaning. Har-Magedon, Earth Mega-Military or Mountain of Military, to complete and be seen as exactly that under world government in the future. (See Joel 3:9-18)
This Joel 3 prophecy is just describing this challenge of God in its military aspect rather than its political (Rev17:11-13) or commercial (Dan11:42-43) aspects of global conglomeration of power:
(Joel 3:9-12) “Proclaim this, you people, among the nations, ‘Sanctify war! Arouse the powerful men! Let them draw near! Let them come up, all the men of war! 10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning shears into lances. As for the weak one, let him say: “I am a powerful man.” 11 Lend your aid and come, all you nations round about, and collect yourselves together.’” To that place, O Jehovah, bring your powerful ones down. 12 “Let the nations be aroused and come up to the low plain of Jehoshaphat (Armageddon parallel); for there I shall sit in order to judge all the nations round about.
So in addition it is the place of divine judgment: all of planet Earth.
Thus, “Har” and “Magedon” which is to become a unique complete “military establishment” is the “Mountain” of the Earthly “Military Establishment” of ultimately World Government 100% global military system. It would be the most complete picture of the global-reality of the “ten horns” of the “Scarlet Wildbeast” world government system, the military aspect. Har-Magedon has to be the total completion of “give their power and authority to the wild beast for one hour” (Rev17:11-18) in 100% TOTALLY GLOBAL FORM!. Obviously, no one can miss this when it completes in the future.
(Revelation 16:16) And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.
The “place” is where this “immense image” is “standing”, planet Earth too:
(Daniel 2:31) “You, O king, happened to be beholding, and, look! a certain immense image. That image, which was large and the brightness of which was extraordinary, was standing in front of you, and its appearance was dreadful.
Thus, “And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon” the “place” is global on Earth, and the condition of Earth is then in the Har-Magedon state of being under the 100% military domination of the 8th King world government system, in complete and final form. (Thus, ready for the war with God and Christ, totally ready, “Armageddon ready”, totally seen by all people globally, the complete Har-Magedon “global situation” complete.
The “place” has to be global, all of Earth, the “stand” is of the 8th King parallel in global final power in totally complete defiance to God’s Kingdom with a 100% global military control sector of world government to try to enforce it all. (Rev13:15-18)
(As per Revelation 16:13-16 demons are who “gather nations” to this “place” and the global force of globalization is definitely a form of “gathering nations”, so it is the globalized-military aspect in specific and a BAD situation overall, but of the future when complete. 100% military control in the wrong hands can be worse than all the warring nations (Matt24:6) when you really think about it, and that is the kind of entity that will fulfill Dan8:25 parallel Dan11:44 and ironically, with the 1Thess5:1-3 “world peace” front cover mantra AT THE SAME TIME!)
So you are right you are not “surviving” Har-Magedon, it being a condition of military globalization complete any more than surviving the “8th King” also being a condition of world government complete. So you raised a great point, thanks. PEOPLE and I am one of them, have used that Armageddon word to mean a dire situation, which by implication gets over extended to mean a “doomsday” like thing also by the media and movies.
Plus, “Armageddon” does have a very ominous ring to the word itself. And with good reason, but it itself is not an “event” to survive it is a “global condition” of a signal global-completion to be aware of, a climax period of global culmination to look for in the future, a heavy “sign” to all people.
As a global-condition “Armageddon” will have a “climax” period as it is to be divinely removed as a “condition” on Earth in that “war of the great day of God the Almighty” EVENT to define Matthew 24:21-22 “cut short the days” EVENT. All this kind of stuff all gets rolled up into that “Armageddon” broad “Doomsday Tamale” when we use the word forgetting to highlight these kinds of IMPORTANT distinctions.
Now the Great Tribulation is caused by men, it would be an “EVENT”, even if over a period, to survive. BUT there is also the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” EVENT which sheep obviously survive, all enemies are cut off, so it too is an “event” to survive. But one is of human origination the other divine to end it at a climax “four winds” period AFTER world government 8th King completes NOT in the “sword stroke” (Rev13:3; Isa41:4) that leads to the “healing” and “abyss ascension” of 8th King world government in the future.
To know the tribulation is human caused first, Paul said:
(2 Thessalonians 1:6) This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who MAKE tribulation for you…
In its final form on Earth all prophetic “tribulation” is caused by human powers (Matt24:29, Matt24:21-22), so in a final form GOD “repays tribulation” to the MAKERS of it in their own “tribulation” and eventual end. This way we KNOW these are the EVENTS THEMSELVES which can be survived. We can survive the human power system tribulation and we can survive the war of God, because a “great crowd” of sheep all survive.
The “great CROWD” is not a “flock” kind of word it implies a mix of people in that “crowd” term; and there is a reason, allow me to explain it. The fact is at Matthew 25:31-46 some of them sheep are so newbie they ask Christ those very basic questions like “when did we see you naked?”. What this tells us is they never read Matthew 25 or are Christian but ignorant of its meaning.
What that means is a person, possibly ANYONE, can come to “believe in Christ” ON THE SPOT (Rev14:6-7 offer to all humans) at that time of his sheep securing manifestation which can be stealth or any way he wants; as Saul did.
(Romans 2:14-16) For whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15 They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or even excused. 16 This will be IN THE DAY when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare.
They would be people as per Romans 2:12-16, already inclined to cooperate, sheep-like people who as per Matt10:23 were unreached before because the “circuits of the cites of Israel” were incomplete by human Christians. But come the Rev14:6-8 Christ and the angels complete the global ministry Christ began. And with that Revelation 14:6-8 offer they too can “wash their robes in the blood of the lamb” officially in a very second of total belief in Christ (like Saul experienced), because they are people being helpful and loving as shown in that Matthew 25:31-40 context God was counting it to them as righteousness (Rom2:12-29) and he knows they will transition to the Christ reality cooperatively.
(Joel 3:14) Crowds, crowds are in the low plain of the decision, for the day of Jehovah is near in the low plain of the decision.
Thus, the “great crowd” will all be “sheep” but many must be very new “sheep” and they came from “crowds in the low plain of the decision” the one “crowd” marked for survival in peoples who had not yet met Christ, but were about to, and that whole transition in prophecy of Revelation 7:9-17 just maintains the “great crowd” meaning to help us see ANYONE can be saved. THAT “crowd” is a mix of people becoming “sheep” in all kinds of ways, some “on the spot”; of course we know they have to be sheep, many do not know they can be very very “newbie” “sheep”, on the spot sheep. Obviously that is truly “good news” for them people who at this time do not even know they are already being inspected for sheep-like character and THAT Revelation 14:6-8 REALITY needs to be fully explained with the final ministry.
That being the case, God uses that “great crowd” term to further affirm ANYONE can be saved, NO WAY is the sacrificial atonement of Christ who bought the whole world:
(1 John 2:1-2) My little children, I am writing you these things that you may not commit a sin. And yet, if anyone does commit a sin, we have a helper with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one. 2 And he is a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins, yet not for ours only but also for the whole world’s.
The Christ sacrifice for salvation cannot to be limited by ANY “religious label” which sprung up later. Being a “Christian” is NOT a “religion”, it is a FAITH:
(Revelation 14:12) Here is where it means endurance for the holy ones, those who observe the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.”
So sheep “survival” is through events as you perceived, not through a prophetic SIGNAL global “condition”. Har-Magedon is merely descriptive of world government taking over the planetary military aspect of the whole planet Earth “mountain” wherein planet Earth is really the “Har” “mountain” in “Har”-“Magedon” under 8th King King North total military domination as one whole global rival entity under “one hour” of world government in the future. (And that is why God tells the 8th King “powers that be” in Joel 3 to “BE READY” (and Eze38:7)…
(Ezekiel 38:7) “‘“Be ready, and let there be preparation on your part, you with all your congregation, those congregated alongside you, and you must become their guard.
…for the war with Christ and completing the 100% global-military control aspect defines “ready” as far as Christ is concerned, world government will already have “crossed the line”, and the games shall begin in due time. (in the active Dan12:11 period)
(Daniel 12:11) “And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed (Rev11:7 final warning ceased) and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation (as complete world government), there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Thus that whole 1290 days is also open for Revelation 14:6-8 salvation. The “Armageddon” war phase of the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” will be what concludes the 1290 days because ONLY “the happy” enter Daniel 12:12’s phase.
The thing to survive thus, as can be imagined, is God and Christ’s MASSIVE GLOBAL REACTION EVENT to this rival world government global “Har-Magedon” military system of the future. Basically at that time “Har-Magedon” “Mount Militia” is Earth’s new 8th King world government name for planet Earth as far as God is concerned, but not long thereafter. AT times, really in error, that divine intervention event gets called “Har-Magedon”, hence the problem you detected. It is really a certain type of prophetic completion in the MILITARY SECTOR ASPECT of complete world government.
Har-Magedon is the global “place” and condition of the world judgment of God and Christ.
Good question, thanks for asking it.