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Revelation 19 “Great Crowd in Heaven” compared to Revelation 7 “Great Crowd” in Prophecy Clues

Revelation 19 “Great Crowd in Heaven” compared to Revelation 7 “Great Crowd” in Prophecy Clues

To understand how the “great crowd” is different but both heavenly in one group (Rev19:1) and earthly in the Revelation 7 post Great Tribulation group first we show how they are different in their sequence in prophecy. This will show you how the “great crowd in heaven” is “in heaven” even before Christ has conquered the world to even deliver the Revelation 7 “great crowd” in the first place, thus an earthly situated “great crowd” appearing last in the sequence of the two.

Because people sometimes use Revelation 19:1-6 to also imply the Revelation 7 “great crowd” is “in heaven” we will use some logic and the prophecy’s own sequence to show this Revelation 19 “great crowd in heaven” is doing these things BEFORE the Great Tribulation deliverance of Revelation 7:9-17. The deliverance of the Revelation 7 “great crowd” would have to occur with the Revelation 19:11-21 events of White Horse Christ in Kingdom Conquest Mode thus AFTER the “great crowd in heaven” of Revelation 19:1-6 in that Revelation 19 prophecy order of events.

Clue 1

The simplest clue is that the Revelation 7 “great crowd” has to “come out of the great tribulation” with this Revelation 19:11-21 event below, thus AFTER this Christ global conquest: event symbolically depicted here from where it starts:

(Revelation 19:11) And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 

Thus the Revelation 19:1-6 “great crowd in heaven” was in heaven EVEN BEFORE Christ went into global conquest mode. As you know the “great crowd in heaven” described in Revelation 19:1-6 is already present BEFORE the Christ conquest of Revelation 19:11-21:

(Revelation 19:1-3) After these things I heard what was as a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven. They said: “Praise Jah, you people! The salvation and the glory and the power belong to our God, 2 because his judgments are true and righteous. For he has executed judgment upon the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication, and he has avenged the blood of his slaves at her hand.” 3 And right away for the second time they said: “Praise Jah, you people! And the smoke from her goes on ascending forever and ever.”

Thus to be a “great crowd in heaven” Christ would have already delivered them with the Revelation 19:11-21 events. BUT that would be out of the Revelation 19 order of events.

Clue 2

Now, since the “great crowd in heaven” here is shown with the statement of the  Babylon the Great “harlot” destruction this “great crowd in heaven” could seem to be in the same timing as the Revelation 7 “great crowd” which would also be delivered with and after the BTG conquest.

But on closer inspection this same “great crowd in heaven” is present before the “marriage of the lamb” is complete that is still before the event of Revelation 19:11 which would lead to the marriage event. But since the Bride is complete, just no marriage yet, the Bride is shown complete here:

(Revelation 19:6-8) And I heard what was as a voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders. They said: “Praise Jah, you people, because Jehovah our God, the Almighty, has begun to rule as king. 7 Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself. 8 Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones.”

Now the complete Bride is shown complete as well, here below too, but as all 144000 symbolized completion as the “Bride” parallel, which the “great crowd in  heaven” also described in regard to the coming marriage in Revelation 19:6-8:

(Revelation 14:1) And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. 

So, the “great crowd in heaven” is again present before the Revelation 7 deliverance of the “great crowd” in Revelation 14:14-16 in the Christ Global Sheep Sweep first priority phase. The “great crowd” of Revelation 7 would be “harvested” with this Revelation 14:14-16 salvation event below, of course after Revelation 14:1 Bride completion:

(Revelation 14:14-16) And I saw, and, look! a white cloud, and upon the cloud someone seated like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

So the “great crowd in heaven” which made the Revelation 14:1 Bride Completion announcement of Revelation 19:6-8 is also present before the “great crowd” ” harvest of the earth” has even been completed in Revelation 14:14-16.

And the “marriage of the lamb” MUST take place AFTER the actual event of the global conquest of Revelation 19:11-21 which will deliver the Revelation 7 “great crowd” as the “harvest of the earth”. So the “great crowd in heaven” is different as it exists in heaven even before the Revelation 7 “great crowd” is delivered by Christ with the actual events of Revelation 19:11-21.

(In all fairness, this is if the Revelation 19 and Revelation 14 sequences are whole unbroken sequence timelines of the post-Christ arrival final events which it seems that is the case because that final sequence is very important and it only occurs in these two places in such a totally complete form in Revelation 14 and 19.)

Clue 3:  Coming Down [to Earth] from Heaven

Many view this long range overview but forget this too initially begins with the Revelation 14:1 and Revelation 19:11 Christ arrival event phases:

(Revelation 21:1-4) 21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

Thus, the “temple” and “throne” are part of the “holy city” which is “coming down from heaven” and being made accessible to humans. It will come down fully accessible here as the 1000 years completes:

(Revelation 22:12-14) “‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. 14 Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority [to go] to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates. 

The “coming down” as in “coming” as a process means the effect of “God’s will done on Earth” is a process from the start of Revelation 7:9-17 to completion of full accessibility as in the “tree of life” granted perfect sinless state, and that human sinlessness takes sometime to achieve to get here. When this below is a reality for here it is just being described, this would even have to become a reality opportunity after Satan and the demons are destroyed because they are the final test period which has to be passed to even get here:

(Revelation 22:14) 14 Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority [to go] to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates. 

By that time under the 1000 Year Reign of Christ, the heavenly “Bride” is already the “New Jerusalem” totally complete and pictured as accessible on Earth there. Thus, HUMANS are who are given accessibility to the “holy city” “by its gates” by that time fully on Earth upon complete obedience to God after the 1000 years has completed and after Satan has been destroyed.

Thus, more than just the “great crowd” will eventually be able to access the eternal life in those “trees of life”; but obedience to God and guarded sinlessness is required as in Eden, Adam and Eve’s failure into disobedience to God barred them access to the “tree of life”.

But the meaning is the same FOR HUMANS, conquer Satan and access  “tree of life” irremovable everlasting life after the final test is passed. Adam and the woman already had “everlasting life”. The “tree of life” they were barred from is an extension of the nature of that “everlasting life”. It would be human immortality based on total testing passed, THAT is what Adam and Eve were prevented from accessing, “indestructible life”.

(Genesis 3:22) And Jehovah God went on to say: “Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite.

Adam and the woman already could live forever while sinless yet with the condition of absolute obedience to God. (Gen2:16-17) So, this “tree of life” is of a different nature of that same “everlasting life” state. (Heb7:16) Now had Christ remained human he would have been granted access to the “tree of life”. In a heavenly way his “indestructible life” is how by complete testing of faithfulness in absolute obedience to God he has accessed “IMMORTALITY” a the final divine nature of “everlasting life” which he also already possessed:

(Hebrews 7:15-17) And it is still more abundantly clear that with a similarity to Melchizedek there arises another priest, 16 who has become such, not according to the law of a commandment depending upon the flesh, but according to the power of an indestructible life, 17 for in witness it is said: “You are a priest forever according to the manner of Melchizedek.”

Since that “indestructible life” is now to be “plugged in” to planet Earth’s planetary life system by means of Jesus Christ’s rulership to remove the Satan “having the means to cause death” (Heb2:14), it will affect ALL LIFE of planet earth in a positive manner commensurate with Christ immortal nature, as God has perfect understanding of how and why this is his “will be done on Earth”:

(Psalm 133:3) 3 It is like the dew of Hermon That is descending upon the mountains of Zion. For there Jehovah commanded the blessing [of] life to time indefinite.

So it is already beyond imagination:

(1 Corinthians 2:9-10) But just as it is written: “Eye has not seen and ear has not heard, neither have there been conceived in the heart of man the things that God has prepared for those who love him.” 10 For it is to us God has revealed them through his spirit, for the spirit searches into all things, even the deep things of God.

BUT it has yet to become reality, but it will. Obedience to God equates to immortality in time upon full testing of faith.

Note on Christ Arrival Priorities

(From previous reply, Btw, the article version coming soon God willing will have a distinction explained about Christ arriving “with the clouds” to sweep sheep first as in Matt24:31, which would secure the Rev7 “great crowd” before Rev19:11 events of the “with power and great glory” totally manifested Christ conquest. But Revelation 19:11-21 FINALIZES the deliverance as Revelation 7:9-17 would be the FINALIZED aftermath, of the finale prophetic description; even if the “great crowd” was secured beforehand, it is still delivered at Revelation 14:14-16.)

But by Revelation 21 it is clear Earth is the target of “let your Kingdom come” and “let your will take place ON EARTH” “as in heaven”.

It just becomes a “seamless” reality between God’s will done in heaven first, and God’s will done ON EARTH last, as one perfect whole well beyond human understanding but understandable to the full capacity of the then perfect human brain and mind. HUGELY different than it is now, to say the least.)

What is to be explained and scripturally cross referenced is the Christ arrival has two objectives in securing sheep prior to the conquest mode and these have scriptural prophetic references to know each occurrence. Thus, we know all the global-conquest references have to be after the sheep are globally secured as the final objective is the global conquest of the wild beast system. In the sheep securement phase, Christ has to arrive to complete the 1Thessalonians 4:17 heavenly sheep aspect first, to be in full “Messianic Kingdom” mode complete, then the rest of the sheep are secured to comprise the “great crowd” of which as explained earlier some sheep are very very “new” sheep.

Another thing to realize is Christ has to render the first Messianic Kingdom judgment (Dan7:26; Matt24:31) by the secured sheep approval and then the BTG judgment from which downfall some final sheep in that bondage are freed to salvation as concurrent with BTG’s judgment, hence Revelation 14:8. Christ renders the judgment even if the wild beast is who destroys the Babylon the Great corporate religious system. Thus, Christ has to be in a “parousia-like” covert stealth mode first for those initial sheep-sweep operations globally (which can take a little time, hence Daniel12:11’s timing allowance for that time required.).

In line with the concept of “parousia” AND the to be clearly known Open Salvation “Week” (Dan9:27) composed of the 1260 days (Dan12:7; Rev11:2-3) and 1290 days (Dan12:11) “week” of approximate seven years, we can know Christ arrives after the 1260 days ends as will be shown. The reason why this is explained is because we can know from prophecy the Christ arrival timeline and priority by scriptural cross reference.

(Now someone may say “I thought he already was in the Parousia? How can there be two? Well unlike the coronation in God’s Kingdom event “parousia” to oversee all this from heaven, this time Christ is “in the air” of Revelation 16:17-20 and 1Thessaloninas 4:17 in direct personal location of planet Earth. So this “parousia” is unique and directly in the Earth target of Matthew 6:10.)

Christ’s Arrival Global Sheep Sweep and Conquest Phasing

The main priority order of Christ is salvation first and conquest last which can also be plainly proven by the Matthew 25:31-46 and Revelation 14:14-20 sequences where the sheep are secured first then the goats are deposed. Thus, we can assume the salvation arrival FIRST portion is a “parousia” like stealth event to secure sheep all over the world right under the nose of complete world government by that time.

(Psalm 110:2) The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:] “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.”

And we can assume the global-conquest mode FINAL OBJECTIVE OF CHRIST is plainly visible for obvious reasons, and that Christ can use BOTH the “with the clouds” parousia first mode in covert means for sheep sweeping and then the “with power and great glory” when in conquest mode as all the sheep are safely out of the main global battle zones for Christ’s termination of the forces of world government “scarlet wildbeast”. (Rev17:8-18 full final sequence)

(Matthew 24:29-31) 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days (as 1260 days ends) the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (first the 7th King old world order to 8th King new world order system shocks) 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

Thus, the Matthew 24:31 events are in mostly “with the clouds” stealth  parousia mode to perform the global “sheep sweep”, to complete the anointed gathering to spirit form (first) and to then proceed to gather all the earth sheep first in the priority. Even though Matthew 24:29-31 does not show any destruction mode yet, we can know Matthew 24:31 sheep sweep is the first and main priority at Christ arrival which precedes the conquest manifestation of Revelation 19:11.

That means the Revelation 14:1 144000 completion is secured first which completes the “Messianic Kingdom” allowing Christ to be crowned by God “King of kings” thus this is the global-conquest mode of Christ as King of kings in a complete Messianic Kingdom, after the sheep are all secured:

(Revelation 19:11-16) And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. 14 Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. 15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

Symbolic “Week” of Open Salvation Offer

The Open Salvation Offer in global actuality:

(Revelation 14:6-8) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.” 8 And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

This means this Christ arrival mode has to be when Christ is already crowned “King of kings” in the Messianic Kingdom thus after the initial first priority global sheep sweep is complete for they are delivered by the official earthly sovereign “Messianic Kingdom” entity carrying out its first promise of the “new government” yet not in fully globally conquered mode, yet.

To get there that final 1260 days is a global appeal period to inform others of the certainty of the Christ arrival as that period ends. We can show in the prophecy that the 1260 days and 1290 days have a transition in Daniel 12:7 and Daniel 12:11 as Revelation 11:7-8 indicates. Thus, Christ arrives in the already initially active 1290 day period as will be explained as we proceed to explain fully how to know the 1290 days activation dual- criteria and which prophecy (Rev11:7-12) is the final symbolic period (Rev11:8) to merge into that Daniel 12:11 1290 days period just starting up.

Thus, for the eventual logic in this article that 1260 days and 1290 days forms a symbolic “week” of years with notable events to mark it as being the 1260 days pre-Christ arrival signal final appeal period and the 1290 days period is to be post-Christ arrival OPEN SALVATION GUARANTEED ALLOWANCE period that takes a little time, but with Christ arrived for the sheep sweep mode, first. (Matt24:29-31; Rev16:17; 1Thess4:17; Rev11:11-12; Matt24:31; Rev14:1)

This is important to know because in that prelude 1260 days to Christ arrival-to-its-actuality in a symbolic “week” of OPEN SALVATION (which will be described as we proceed) we know what leads to Christ arrival in the 1260 days “second witness” of the “TWO witnesses” which has to complete first as per Revelation 11:7.

Thus its very “Christ arrival” “little scroll” subject matter of that Revelation 11:2-3 1260 day final warning and global open salvation announcement exactly precedes the very Christ arrival event it is to be warning of in a complete totally affirmable summary:

(Revelation 10:5-7) And the angel that I saw standing on the sea and on the earth raised his right hand to heaven, 6 and by the One who lives forever and ever, who created the heaven and the things in it and the earth and the things in it and the sea and the things in it, he swore: “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

When Christ arrives in the “mid week”, post 1260 days sequence, what he does first is save sheep and thus that will be in the 1290 day period already in initial activation. That final period’s 1260 days and the 1290 days must be ALL OPEN FOR SALVATION. That 1290 days is the final part of that open salvation “week” and the conquest mode of Christ concludes the 1290 day final allowance period. Now we know global sheep securement process can have plenty of time in the Daniel 12:11 1290 days, active to some brief degree, to complete that sheep-sweep process and why it exists with such a time frame.

Open Salvation Week Proof

Now that final “week” for OPEN SALVATION PURPOSES is shown in two Bible prophecies in principle of what is to be applied to the final open salvation “week” based on seven lunar years composed of the 1260 days and 1290 days (lunar 7.083 years; solar 6.99 years). Now for example one, the principle exists here in Noah’s day where God gave a final warning to Noah seven days, a week, prior to the deluge flood:

(Genesis 7:4-5) For in just seven days more I am making it rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and I will wipe every existing thing that I have made off the surface of the ground.” 5 And Noah proceeded to do according to all that Jehovah had commanded him.

Now keep in mind the 1260 days and the 1290 days form a rounded “week” of years WITH THE SAME PURPOSE: SALVATION OFFER AND WARNING. So in the indirect principle of the the main Jesus Christ pattern itself here we have the real proof of the “week” principle that although applying to the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, ALSO has the same principle elements in the final appeal period features as will be explained:

(Daniel 9:27) “And he must keep [the] covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease.

We know the “holy covenant” principle of human salvation is “in force” for many people GLOBALLY for “one week” as we extend this pattern to the actual final seven year “week” that precedes the full application of the Christ sacrifice to initially save people from 8th King caused “great tribulation” and the Christ conquest event of the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” which deposes the “goats”.

(This prophecy has a very direct fulfillment in the time of Jesus Christ, BUT we can use the spirit of the salvation to know Christ’s main pattern is applicable to the climax “time of the end” Bible prophecy as well when its actuality becomes globally realized.

This time at the Daniel 9:27 principle “half of the week”, that is now to be defined at the end of the 1260 days completed into also the final appeal’s “two witnesses” “constant feature” ceased as Christ ARRIVES with salvation for sheep; while in initial fulfillment Christ died to “cease gift offering” and to secure this very global salvation and now they will simultaneously co-relate in final form! Now, THAT is no accident!)

And this Daniel 9:27 “week” of salvation MIDPOINT is to be marked in this principle pattern by the Revelation 11:7-10 “cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease” “at the half of the week” as the 1260 days ends which is another way of terming the cessation of the “constant feature” “gift offering” in Daniel 9:27’s principle.

In the first case, Christ was killed to mark that midpoint with his sacrifice and ministerial “gift offering” “constant feature” ceased. IN the future case, we can prove the 1260 days ends in Revelation 11:7-10 to ALSO be marked by the cessation of the final “two witnesses” appeal’s “constant feature” as also to be ceased (in the final warning cancelled by “abyss” ascendant world government; Rev11:7). And that “constant feature” cessation will mark the “half of the week”, that is the 1260 days expired. Now that 1260 days expired has to be followed by the 1290 day period in part signified as active by that “two witnesses” “constant feature” removal of the future, which we can see the parallel below:

(Daniel 12:11) “And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed (Rev11:7 final warning ceased) and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation (as complete world government), there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Now, the “there has been a placing of the disgusting thing” is a completion of the “disgusting thing” global- placement as 8th King world government in complete worldwide form when in final cycle of the future. Now, we can connect this Revelation 11:7 “killing” of the “two witnesses” AND the wildbeast “abyss ascension” as direct parallel of that Daniel 12:11 activation dual- criteria when BOTH those two prophetic features of globally seen events are globally present, at the same time:

(Revelation 11:7) And when they have finished their witnessing (1260 days completed), the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss (Rev17:8-12) will make war with them and conquer them and kill them.

That “wildbeast” “abyss ascension” (Rev17:8-12) occurs concurrent globally with also the “killing” of the “two witnesses” as the parallel of the Daniel 12:11 “the time that the constant [feature] has been removed” AND that while the “abyss ascension” of the “disgusting thing that is causing desolation” as the completion of 8th King Scarlet Wildbeast World Government is also globally official; thus BOTH criteria features of the Daniel 12:11 prophecy period will be present and thus the 1290 day activation benchmark will be present as notable for people’s information at that time.

Christ will then arrive when the “two witnesses” “three and a half day” “death state” has expired directly into the Revelation 11:11-12 Christ arrival parallel.

Merging the 1260 Days Expiration into the 1290 Days by the “Three and a Half Day” “Death State” of the “Two Witnesses”

Thus, the cessation of the “two witnesses” “second witnessing” “constant feature” final warning appeal in the deep final cycle future must also define the “killing” of the “two witnesses” by the cessation of their final warning appeal ministry which then activates that final “three and a half days” period to expire into the Christ arrival parallel of Revelation 11:11-12.

So we know this final symbolic period of “three and a half days” will be short, it must be in the 1290 days as carried out by then complete world government international law defining both Daniel 12:11 1290 activation criteria and that its symbolic “three and a half day” expiration leads to this Christ arrival parallel as the FINAL prophetic period required to expire just prior to Christ arrival:

(Revelation 11:11-13) And after the three and a half days spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon those beholding them. 12 And they heard a loud voice out of heaven say to them: “Come on up here.” (Matt24:31; 1Thess4:17 parallel) And they went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies beheld them. 

Thus, the “thee and a half days” activated after the 1260 days has expired as in Revelation 11:7, must merge into the 1290 days period to mark the cessation of the “constant feature” in its Daniel 12:11 criteria portion.

Salvation Reference:

(Revelation 11: 13) And in that hour (Rev17:12) a great earthquake occurred, and a tenth of the city fell; and seven thousand persons were killed by the earthquake, and the rest became frightened and gave glory to the God of heaven.

The Revelation 11:13 “kills” are a salvation symbol in which the symbolic “7000” and the “tenth of the city” are salvation meanings. Since Babylon the Great is still present a little while longer AFTER the “two witnesses” are “killed” as Christendom is the Revelation 11:8 “broad way” into that “great city” which also contains the “two witnesses” unburied “corpses”. This means there are eventually final- sheep saved from the Babylon the Great “great city” overall global-system as per Revelation 14:6-7 open salvation offer which leads to, and thus through, the BTG destruction whose finale is announced in Revelation 14:8 as Revelation 14:6-7 events lead here during the BTG destruction phase as noted in this final sequence:

(Revelation 14:6-8) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.” 

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

Thus, the “great crowd” is completely “gathered” in completion as far as that BTG liberation aspect for a “tenth of the city” saved in symbolic meaning adds the final humans to the “great crowd”, some final “sheep” swept out by use of the BTG downfall. But Revelation 7:9-17 is a post Christ total global-conquest finale sequence, so that is when in the timeline the “great crowd” are described in final form, even if being secured previously during the 1290 days Revelation 7:9-17 is the post Christ conquest aftermath.

The “Great Crowd” as the First Temple Gift of Christ to God

(Hebrews 9:9) This very [tent] is an illustration for the appointed time that is now here, and in keeping with it both gifts and sacrifices are offered. 

Thus, the “great crowd” in its Matthew 24:31-40 “sheep” symbol and Revelation 14:14-16 “harvest of the earth” parallels of also a final completed Christ arrival “gathering” are the first “harvest of the earth”  “gift” offered by High Priest Christ to God in the completed “temple” state:

(Revelation 14:15-17) And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped. 17 And still another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary] that is in heaven, he, too, having a sharp sickle.

And to make this “heavenly temple” have earthly effect it has to be “coming down [to earth] from heaven” in symbol of its divine power of salvation now directly affecting earth:

(Revelation 21:1-2) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Though the “temple” is a heavenly symbol of a spiritual reality the completion of the 144000 is what enables it as a complete “temple” only requiring the “head stone” Christ for total completion and it has earthly missions to help fulfill the Christ prayerful request of God:

(Matthew 6:9-10) “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come [to earth]. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.

By that time the “coming down from heaven” has made its first step into planet Earth, and this “holy city’s” temple” is then beginning to become accessible to humans on Earth, thus the “throne” and “temple” are parts of the “holy city” “coming down” to earth making this all accessible to humans on Earth:

(Revelation 7:9-10) After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

And that is how human beings can be “before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his [then completed] temple” because these are all elements within the “holy city”:

(Revelation 7:13-17) And in response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”

And if that “tent” and “God will wipe out every tear from their eyes” sounds familiar in Revelation it is the promise of God also shown here below on earth so we can again know where this “tent” is to become spread, that is over planet Earth, but not as the “temple” of course but as “God’s will done on Earth” “tent” global-condition and God’s guidance of the whole human family:

(Revelation 21:3-4) With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

And thus, since the “tent of God is with mankind” therefore the “great crowd” is the first of mankind to start to be recovered on Earth in this fulfillment then becoming reality, and that is with earthly focus God “will reside with them, and they will be his peoples” on Earth. Thus it starts to fulfill the Matthew 6:10 “let your Kingdom come” to planet Earth to oversee “God’s will done on Earth as in Heaven” in comprehensive manner which takes 1000 years to complete to human perfection and sinlessness.

(2 Thessalonians 1:10) and to be regarded in that day with wonder in connection with all those who exercised faith, because the witness we gave met with faith among you.

We can see here below, the “great crowd” is not sinless and perfected yet hence not in heaven but still on Earth. The “great crowd” will still be requiring more now direct Christ guidance to the “waters of life” which signify the teaching of the practice of sinlessness and the divine perfection of human being and body (Heb10:10) to make it possible which then proceeds under the 1000 year reign of Christ:

(Revelation 7:17) because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. 

This direct accessibility to human beings is because the “holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God” is present in initial form for the “gift offering” of the “harvest of the earth” to be given by High Priest Christ in God’s “temple” to proceed into the 1000 year reign of Christ:

(Revelation 21:1-2) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

And since the “Bride” is also now complete and is also in that “Lamb’s wife” symbol:

(Revelation 21:9-10) And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls which were full of the seven last plagues, and he spoke with me and said: “Come here, I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.” 10 So he carried me away in [the power of the] spirit to a great and lofty mountain, and he showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God…

The “Marriage of the Lamb” can take place in the official form and the “great crowd” and who knows who else may be present…:

(Revelation 11:18) to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great

…and can be the “invited to the Lamb’s Marriage” for the “Groom and Bride” are not the “invitees” they are the main event! And though anointed are invited in they become the “bride” so there is more than just the “bride and groom” at the marriage ceremony as humans can experience and witness the earthly manifestation of the event. What wedding ceremony consists of only the bride and groom?

(Revelation 19:7-8) Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself. 8 Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones.”

So, humans are the ones who are affected by this commission of the final appeal warning parallel:

(Matthew 25:6-7) Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on your way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 

Thus the “five discreet virgins” and the “two witnesses” have a global audience to be affected by the final appeal of the open salvation offer, they do not “light up the way” and “witness to Christ arrival” to themselves and those that do respond are part of this final appeal process’s global audience to bring in the finality of all the parties of those to complete the “bride” and those to complete the invited ones to witness the marriage and ceremonies in this same principle of the final Open Salvation Offer parallel:

(Matthew 22:7-13) “But the king grew wrathful, and sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. 8 Then he said to his slaves, ‘The marriage feast indeed is ready, but those invited were not worthy. 9 Therefore go to the roads leading out of the city, and anyone you find invite to the marriage feast.’ 10 Accordingly those slaves went out to the roads and gathered together all they found, both wicked and good; and the room for the wedding ceremonies was filled with those reclining at the table. 11 “When the king came in to inspect the guests he caught sight there of a man not clothed with a marriage garment. 12 So he said to him, ‘Fellow, how did you get in here not having on a marriage garment?’ He was rendered speechless. 13 Then the king said to his servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and throw him out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.’

Final Note: “Tent” to “Temple” Completion First, for “Coming Down from Heaven” Last

Now as the “temple” word in Revelation NWT translation signifies, as it does in the Greek text, the Revelation prophecy use of that “temple” word in the Revelation terminal sequences only AFTER the TEMPLE HAS BEEN COMPLETED (by finally God) in these final contexts (Rev11:19). As an example in this pre-seven plagues description the “tent” word is used as the “temple” is yet to complete:

(Revelation 15:5-6) And after these things I saw, and the sanctuary of the tent of the witness was opened in heaven, 6 and the seven angels with the seven plagues emerged from the sanctuary, clothed with clean, bright linen and girded about their breasts with golden girdles. 

Whereas by the time of these sequences Christ has arrived and the “temple” has been completed in all 144000:

(Revelation 11:19) And the temple [sanctuary] of God that is in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen in his temple [sanctuary]. And there occurred lightnings and voices and thunders and an earthquake and a great hail.

(Revelation 14:15-17) And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped. 17 And still another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary] that is in heaven, he, too, having a sharp sickle.

(Revelation 7:15) That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. (the tent here is not the temple)

In this pre-temple completion reference it is of the “measuring of the temple” signifying its guaranteed divine completion in this final Revelation 11 future sequence. The rest is really focused on the “courtyard” signified as earthly as it will be trampled in this final pre-Christ arrival sequence of Revelation 11:1-19 which “trampling” of Revelation 11:2 leads to the “temple” completion:

(Revelation 11:1-2) And a reed like a rod was given me as he said: “Get up and measure the temple [sanctuary] of God and the altar and those worshiping in it. 2 But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 

Although God Almighty completes the temple, of course, Christ works on the temple completion, when he “gathers” the rest of the “the living” final anointed “who are surviving” (1Thes4:17); but GOD is who places Christ as the “head stone” also the King-Priest significance:

(Zechariah 4:6-9) Accordingly he answered and said to me: “This is the word of Jehovah to Zerubbabel, saying, ‘“Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” Jehovah of armies has said. 7 Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel [you will become] a level land. And he will certainly bring forth the headstone. There will be shoutings to it: “How charming! How charming!”’” 8 And the word of Jehovah continued to occur to me, saying: 9 “The very hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house, and his own hands will finish [it]. 

In the reality of the heavenly “Temple” God is who “finishes it” because he sets Christ as also the final “stone” in the “temple” as Christ is also its “foundation stone” and Zechariah 4 is the Revelation 11:5 parallel so the “shoutings” of the coming “temple” completion is a final appeal parallel of the “two witnesses” “second witnessing” of the future.

And that commission is to be given here after the temple cleansing of Zechariah 3:1-5:

(Zechariah 3:8-9) “‘Hear, please, O Joshua the high priest, you and your companions who are sitting before you, for they are men [serving] as portents; for here I am bringing in my servant Sprout! 9 For, look! the stone that I have put before Joshua! Upon the one stone there are seven eyes. Here I am engraving its engraving,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies, ‘and I will take away the error of that land in one day.’

It means the 144000 completion, whether literal or symbolic, is a required whole also “gathered” to total completion (1Thess4:17; Rev16:17-20). This is why prior to temple completion as cited above in Revelation 15, and also found in Hebrews, the word “tent” is used as in the temporary incomplete state of anointed “gathering” and thus the “temple” is signified as a “tent”, still incomplete, even when there was only one anointed One, even if it is the Christ:

(Hebrews 8:1-2) Now as to the things being discussed this is the main point: We have such a high priest as this, and he has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a public servant of the holy place and of the true tent, which Jehovah put up, and not man.

(Hebrews 9:9) This very [tent] is an illustration for the appointed time that is now here, and in keeping with it both gifts and sacrifices are offered. 

A Final Meditation for Many

In addition, this 1290 days allowance and the stealth sheep securing super-natural events, though covert, will be noticed by other people still in question of their own faith about Christ and this extended time frame gives them some time to think about the things they have seen. As with the case of the week prior to the flood, people had to witness a massive influx of animal life into the ark because 8 people were not going to gather such an enormous cargo, and though people saw that sign, none responded.

But this final sign of Christ loading his own salvation human cargo can have a great effect on others and some of them will make the decision to get “on board” with Revelation 14:6-8’s offer and the “two witnesses” appeal will have made this offer known to many people as well. The extended time frame of this open salvation period thus also allows people some time to meditate on what they will KNOW has been going on at global scale and hopefully choose salvation before it is truly too late, and angels ensure the open salvation offer will stand the whole 1290 days:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

That divine offer is pretty direct and its acceptance will be aided by interesting sheep sweep events and the time to reflect upon what it really means for many people.

 

 

 

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Har-Magedon: Mountain of Military; Earth’s New Name under World Government

Har-Magedon: Mountain of Military; Earth’s New Name under World Government

Question:

“”Where does it actually say in the Bible that people will survive armageddon? because I can’t find it. I I know it says in revelation that a great crowd stands before the throne of God, does it mean heavenly because I have been on other annointed websites who say there will be only a tiny remaining people who inherit earth a small remnant not a great deal of crowd? Thank you for your great service to us it is much appreciated and welcomed.””

Reply:

Har-Magedon (Armageddon)

(Revelation 16:13-16) And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. 15 “Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one that stays awake and keeps his outer garments, that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness.” 16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.

Now on this Armageddon word/term and its meaning, it has a global-situation to be recognizable in the future as the “nations are being gathered to” “Har-Magedon”. And what you question is good, it is what is sometimes called a “fine point”; I am glad you asked it because I am a bit lax in the way I use this Armageddon term, but now I am going to be more careful and precise and here is why.

Har-Magedon is NOT something like an “event” really to be “survived” it is a prophetic “global situation” that WILL become globally recognizable, it is something to look for in the future, a “sign” as it is also built up by demons “performing signs” for world leaders to aid this “gathering the nations” progression; this is a specific progression of global-military domination to be explained fully. But the “Har-Magedon” condition can umbrella some trying times as it matures to a recognizable global completion.

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The Har-Magedon sign and global-development is a culmination of a certain signal global-condition which will get more obviosu as world government nears completion. Har-Magedon is two words as a hyphenated term, sometimes combined into one word: Armageddon. In Hebrew the word Har word means “mountain”. So we need to know which certain “mountain” which that “har” Hebrew word applies to Har=Mountain. It is no single mountain on Earth though, it IS Earth itself as this Revelation 16:16 “mountain”, indicating a global condition for starters upon this here “mountain of God”:

(Ezekiel 28:16) And I shall put you as profane out of the mountain of God (in reference to Satan’s authority over planet Earth “mountain of God”)

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Har-Magedon is a planetary complete condition of the “Magedon” global-state wherein “Magedon” is related to “Megiddo” in its “military fortress” root meaning, a “military establishment” in this final case a signal one, one controlled by 8th King world government in time. Now we know this is a “mountain” of planet Earth under a “military establishment” in that “Magedon” word meaning. Har-Magedon, Earth Mega-Military or Mountain of Military, to complete and be seen as exactly that under world government in the future. (See Joel 3:9-18)

This Joel 3 prophecy is just describing this challenge of God in its military aspect rather than its political (Rev17:11-13) or commercial (Dan11:42-43) aspects of global conglomeration of power:

(Joel 3:9-12) “Proclaim this, you people, among the nations, ‘Sanctify war! Arouse the powerful men! Let them draw near! Let them come up, all the men of war! 10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning shears into lances. As for the weak one, let him say: “I am a powerful man.” 11 Lend your aid and come, all you nations round about, and collect yourselves together.’” To that place, O Jehovah, bring your powerful ones down. 12 “Let the nations be aroused and come up to the low plain of Jehoshaphat (Armageddon parallel); for there I shall sit in order to judge all the nations round about.

So in addition it is the place of divine judgment: all of planet Earth.

Thus, “Har” and “Magedon”  which is to become a unique complete “military establishment” is the “Mountain” of the Earthly “Military Establishment” of ultimately World Government 100% global military system. It would be the most complete picture of the global-reality of the “ten horns” of the “Scarlet Wildbeast” world government system, the military aspect. Har-Magedon has to be the total completion of “give their power and authority to the wild beast for one hour” (Rev17:11-18) in 100% TOTALLY GLOBAL FORM!. Obviously, no one can miss this when it completes in the future.

(Revelation 16:16) And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.

The “place” is where this “immense image” is “standing”, planet Earth too:

(Daniel 2:31) “You, O king, happened to be beholding, and, look! a certain immense image. That image, which was large and the brightness of which was extraordinary, was standing in front of you, and its appearance was dreadful. 

Thus, “And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon” the “place” is global on Earth, and the condition of Earth is then in the Har-Magedon state of being under the 100% military domination of the 8th King world government system, in complete and final form. (Thus, ready for the war with God and Christ, totally ready, “Armageddon ready”, totally seen by all people globally, the complete Har-Magedon “global situation” complete.

The “place” has to be global, all of Earth, the “stand” is of the 8th King parallel in global final power in totally complete defiance to God’s Kingdom with a 100% global military control sector of world government to try to enforce it all. (Rev13:15-18)

(As per Revelation 16:13-16 demons are who “gather nations” to this “place” and the global force of globalization is definitely a form of “gathering nations”, so it is the globalized-military aspect in specific and a BAD situation overall, but of the future when complete. 100% military control in the wrong hands can be worse than all the warring nations (Matt24:6) when you really think about it, and that is the kind of entity that will fulfill Dan8:25 parallel Dan11:44 and ironically, with the 1Thess5:1-3 “world peace” front cover mantra AT THE SAME TIME!)

So you are right you are not “surviving” Har-Magedon, it being a condition of military globalization complete any more than surviving the “8th King” also being a condition of world government complete. So you raised a great point, thanks. PEOPLE and I am one of them, have used that Armageddon word to mean a dire situation, which by implication gets over extended to mean a “doomsday” like thing also by the media and movies.

Plus, “Armageddon” does have a very ominous ring to the word itself. And with good reason, but it itself is not an “event” to survive it is a “global condition” of a signal global-completion to be aware of, a climax period of global culmination to look for in the future, a heavy “sign” to all people.

As a global-condition “Armageddon” will have a “climax” period as it is to be divinely removed as a “condition” on Earth in that “war of the great day of God the Almighty” EVENT to define Matthew 24:21-22 “cut short the days” EVENT. All this kind of stuff all gets rolled up into that “Armageddon” broad “Doomsday Tamale” when we use the word forgetting to highlight these kinds of IMPORTANT distinctions.

Now the Great Tribulation is caused by men, it would be an “EVENT”, even if over a period, to survive. BUT there is also the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” EVENT which sheep obviously survive, all enemies are cut off, so it too is an “event” to survive. But one is of human origination the other divine to end it at a climax “four winds” period AFTER world government 8th King completes NOT in the “sword stroke” (Rev13:3; Isa41:4) that leads to the “healing” and “abyss ascension” of 8th King world government in the future.

To know the tribulation is human caused first, Paul said:

(2 Thessalonians 1:6) This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who MAKE tribulation for you…

In its final form on Earth all prophetic  “tribulation” is caused by human powers (Matt24:29, Matt24:21-22), so in a final form GOD “repays tribulation” to the MAKERS of it in their own “tribulation” and eventual end. This way we KNOW these are the EVENTS THEMSELVES which can be survived. We can survive the human power system tribulation and we can survive the war of God, because a “great crowd” of sheep all survive.

The “great CROWD” is not a “flock” kind of word it implies a mix of people in that “crowd” term; and there is a reason, allow me to explain it. The fact is at Matthew 25:31-46 some of them sheep are so newbie they ask Christ those very basic questions like “when did we see you naked?”. What this tells us is they never read Matthew 25 or are Christian but ignorant of its meaning.

What that means is a person, possibly ANYONE, can come to “believe in Christ” ON THE SPOT (Rev14:6-7 offer to all humans) at that time of his sheep securing manifestation which can be stealth or any way he wants; as Saul did.

(Romans 2:14-16) For whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15 They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or even excused. 16 This will be IN THE DAY when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare.

They would be people as per Romans 2:12-16, already inclined to cooperate, sheep-like people who as per Matt10:23 were unreached before because the “circuits of the cites of Israel” were incomplete by human Christians. But come the Rev14:6-8 Christ and the angels complete the global ministry Christ began. And with that Revelation 14:6-8 offer they too can “wash their robes in the blood of the lamb” officially in a very second of total belief in Christ (like Saul experienced), because they are people being helpful and loving as shown in that Matthew 25:31-40 context God was counting it to them as righteousness (Rom2:12-29) and he knows they will transition to the Christ reality cooperatively.

(Joel 3:14) Crowds, crowds are in the low plain of the decision, for the day of Jehovah is near in the low plain of the decision.

Thus, the “great crowd” will all be “sheep” but many must be very new “sheep” and they came from “crowds in the low plain of the decision” the one “crowd” marked for survival in peoples who had not yet met Christ, but were about to, and that whole transition in prophecy of Revelation 7:9-17 just maintains the “great crowd” meaning to help us see ANYONE can be saved. THAT “crowd” is a mix of people becoming “sheep” in all kinds of ways, some “on the spot”; of course we know they have to be sheep, many do not know they can be very very “newbie” “sheep”, on the spot sheep. Obviously that is truly “good news” for them people who at this time do not even know they are already being inspected for sheep-like character and THAT Revelation 14:6-8 REALITY needs to be fully explained with the final ministry.

That being the case, God uses that “great crowd” term to further affirm ANYONE can be saved, NO WAY is the sacrificial atonement of Christ who bought the whole world:

(1 John 2:1-2) My little children, I am writing you these things that you may not commit a sin. And yet, if anyone does commit a sin, we have a helper with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one. 2 And he is a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins, yet not for ours only but also for the whole world’s. 

The Christ sacrifice for salvation cannot to be limited by ANY “religious label” which sprung up later. Being a “Christian” is NOT a “religion”, it is a FAITH:

(Revelation 14:12) Here is where it means endurance for the holy ones, those who observe the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.”

So sheep “survival” is through events as you perceived, not through a prophetic SIGNAL global “condition”. Har-Magedon is merely descriptive of world government taking over the planetary military aspect of the whole planet Earth “mountain” wherein planet Earth is really the “Har” “mountain” in “Har”-“Magedon” under 8th King King North total military domination as one whole global rival entity under “one hour” of world government in the future. (And that is why God tells the 8th King “powers that be” in Joel 3 to “BE READY” (and Eze38:7)…

(Ezekiel 38:7) “‘“Be ready, and let there be preparation on your part, you with all your congregation, those congregated alongside you, and you must become their guard.

…for the war with Christ and completing the 100% global-military control aspect defines “ready” as far as Christ is concerned, world government will already have “crossed the line”, and the games shall begin in due time. (in the active Dan12:11 period)

(Daniel 12:11) “And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed (Rev11:7 final warning ceased) and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation (as complete world government), there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Thus that whole 1290 days is also open for Revelation 14:6-8 salvation. The “Armageddon” war phase of the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” will be what concludes the 1290 days because ONLY “the happy” enter Daniel 12:12’s phase.

The thing to survive thus, as can be imagined, is God and Christ’s MASSIVE GLOBAL REACTION EVENT to this rival world government global “Har-Magedon” military system of the future. Basically at that time “Har-Magedon” “Mount Militia” is Earth’s new 8th King world government name for planet Earth as far as God is concerned, but not long thereafter. AT times, really in error, that divine intervention event gets called “Har-Magedon”, hence the problem you detected. It is really a certain type of prophetic completion in the MILITARY SECTOR ASPECT of complete world government.

Har-Magedon is the global “place” and condition of the world judgment of God and Christ.

Good question, thanks for asking it.

The End So Soon? Not So Fast There JWs…

The End So Soon? Nope…

Examining Apostate Bethel’s “The End is Here!” Hype and its Deceptive Purpose

Why would Jehovah’s witnesses be thinking its the end already??? Maybe because of this here development below?

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-2) However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.

And JUST AS WRITTEN!!!

I REPEAT, EXACTLY AS FORETOLD, Jehovah’s witnesses are NOW being “shaken from all reason”, and “over excited” by THIS EXACT Bethel fraudulent and premature end claim, that what comes next is “simply, the end of the world brothers!!!! LOOK NO FURTHER!!!”.

Along with this premature and false impression, is the myth the “great tribulation” simply devolves into “the end”, leading to the arrival of Christ. (Did Christ say that though? See Matthew 24:6)

This is the SIGNAL DELUSION, that Bethel NOW pushes like a pimp pushing fresh meat on the street, into JW mental boulevard, to also push on their global audience door to door, and in many Bible studies.

These are foretold LIES, being promoted by Bethel, for some future anti-Christian use. NOTHING MORE, nothing less.

Only problem is, the end aint coming as quickly as Bethel says. INSTEAD the greatest global CYCLE of all human history must unfold, and MORE witnessing to God’s Kingdom and all these things, must climax. (Rev10:5-7), INSTEAD, much more prophecy must yet fulfill, and this supposed “end” Jehovah’s witnesses are expecting, will NOT come quite as soon as they expect.

Now this meltdown cycle (Dan11:41-43), that the world’s own forecasters are clearing explaining is greatly financial and to be covered up by war with Russia, now brewing, is what we know is coming. We also know it is to have a world government producing and supporting purpose, it is NOT the end, the more people think it is “the end”, the more distracted, misled and predictable they become, plain and simple.

The “lights” of this world itself, its researchers its economists and alternative news people, are who show the “signs” of what is coming, as a PORTENT SIGN BEFORE these things come:

(Luke 21:25-26) “Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth…

That TOO is now fulfilling in its signal global form, like NEVER BEFORE in all world history as people who are paying attention understand hundreds of trillions in global debt and unfunded liabilities of the state, massive globally spread unrest and terror, criminal false flag producing government cabals, and constant NATO and its wars expansion, is NOT going to just resolve easily and cure itself.

Something ENORMOUS is brewing in the world. (But it is NOT, “the end”, yet.)

And now Bethel can be sacked, in the context of these developments going full blown, and rather than understand these things MUST occur first:

(Matthew 24:6) You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.

Jehovah’s witnesses minds will instead be gripped with the HOAX, that the end has come, all is done. JWs will be USELESS for helping others, or themselves, they were caught by the final apostate delusion, and its purpose is to crash Bethel, cancel the JW ministry, rob the place blind, and then tell JWs that is “all prophecy fulfilling brothers! All’s good! Expect Christ!”

THAT is why they are duping JWs with this hype of a premature end, just like God said by Paul and 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2.

Bethel Bypasses a Big Chunk of 8th King World Government Prelude Development

Bethel is BYPASSING the final prophecy phase, so they can over advance JW minds:

1. To CONCEAL the true meaning of their own siege and downfall;

2. To better control JWs with hysteria propelled obedience directives “at that time”. (WT11/15/13 pg 20, par 17, #3);

3. To support the overall global “doomsday” impression, to distract people’s minds;

But as Christ stated, these things are a signal he is NOT going to arrive just yet. “These things must take place, but the end is not yet”, is what all this war and unrest means, JUST AS CHRIST PLAINLY STATED. TWICE RECORDED!!!!

(Luke 21:9) Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disorders, do not be terrified. For these things must occur first, but the end does not [occur] immediately.”

That is because this “Christ Clue” is very very very IMPORTANT to comprehend NOW!

And why? Because we do NOT want to get fooled with JWs and the world, that this is “the end”.

Because the rivals of God, designed the global tribulation events, to control the global crisis “problem”, so they can, as in WW1, WW2 and the Cold War, resolve it to highlight the presentation of the global “solution”. THEY create the “problem”, so they can become the big “solution”, very simple. This time, that “solution” is 8th King World Government, in full (Rev17:8-13), to instead HEAL in global recovery, from this period that will seem like “doomsday” to many misled people, including Jehovah’s witnesses:

(Revelation 13:3) And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.

But as we see, this global healing inspires great wildbeast “admiration” (Rev17:8), so that people not only accept the 666, they invite it, they celebrate it like a post world war soldier homecoming parade. THAT is what the “tribulation of those days” leads to, NOT “the end”.

THAT is why Christ said “”These things must take place, but the end is not yet”, because world government forming that signal world peace and security proclamation, is what triggers his arrival. (1Thess5:1-3)

As we see here, national regaining of power, comes before “the judgment itself”, that is the total world judgment of Christ of Matthew 25:31-46:

(Isaiah 41:1) “Attend to me in silence, you islands; and let national groups themselves regain power. Let them approach. At that time let them speak. Let us come up close together for the judgment itself.

That healing of Revelation 13:3, is how ” national groups themselves regain power”. Now keep in mind, the “national groups” have not bottom out, yet. THAT is what is coming, and that is what Bethel and others are saying will be “the end”. IT will not be “the end”, the nations MUST “regain power” BEFORE the “judgment itself”, and Jehovah is talking not about the “temple judgment”, but the BIG ONE, the global judgment of every human being on Earth, every last one!

And THAT is why Christ could most assuredly give us today one of the shortest, yet most important clues in the Bible, of the circumstances that WILL NOT lead to his arrival in this “These things MUST take place, but the end is not yet”, until “these things” also mature into that SIGNAL GLOBAL SUPER-RECOVERY. It is that simple folks, this doomsday is going to RECOVER into the most enormous and massive global capital recovery in ALL HUMAN HISTORY.

BTG trillions, at that time, not next, is what also boosts the global recovery! THAT is when BTG and Christendom are to be deposed, AFTER they help sell world government to their flocks, like the harlot they are! The complete “harlot” rides a COMPLETE “scarlet wildbeast”, which is complete in world government in full!!!!

ALL THESE TOTAL THINGS MUST COMPLETE:

(Revelation 10:6-7) “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

And that “good news” of the “sacred secret” outlines ALL of these things.

By this supposed “doomsday” transforming into great global recovery, that way they can “market” and give world government, and some of its recovery riches, and its “golden age” hopes, to the global peoples, so that they accept the 666 ever so willingly, amplified by great global joy, the “latest breakthroughs”, and great global hopefulness at the same scale, of the doomsday “that was sure a close call” impression that preceded it.

“AS THOUGH” “slaughtered to death”, but not really eh? Yes, that is how this doomsday fear is transformed into global joy, as the global atmosphere to present that final world government.

And it is ALL foretold in all its key features of circumstances leading to it. The apostasy (Dan11:30-35; Dan8:11-14), the “the end” hype” (2Thess2:1-2), the temple judgment (Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14; Zech3:1-9), the 7th King fall (Rev13:3; Dan11:42-43), the ministry recovery (Rev9-10), the final warning (Rev11:1-7), the 8th King rise into world government (Rev11:7; Rev17:8-13), Christ arrival, the global sheep sweep first, the Kingdom conquest, the main deceptions, ALL OF IT, is in prophecy, in short order. It is all their on about a page or two of printed 12 pt text! A SINGLE PAGE of parts of the overall prophecy!!!!

And all of it is GAUGED in the Seven Trumpet Framework of temporal events! ALL OF IT!

The formulaic and cyclic purpose for which these “things that must take place” are designed by the rival governmental system, must run its course fully. “These things” that Christ spoke about, define the “tribulation of those days”. The tribulation of those days” is outlined in the first four plagues. The first four plagues are the context of the first four trumpets of the temple judgment. It is THAT simple, future events will PROVE it, that is the way it is supposed to be:

(Revelation 1:1) A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.

And that is the way it WILL BE, for? God and Christ’s “slaves”. Not for foolish virgins, not for goats, not for apostates who leave the holy covenant for the UN NGO covenants (Dan11:30), no, for Christ slaves! So these “discreet virgins” can give light to all sorts of people in this massive global phase, which Bethel is just skipping over in an evil signal bypass we have been well warned to be on the look out for!

That creates the final global context, a global crisis to define the big “problem”, in a global crisis, so they can then become the big global heroes, with their world government global “solution”, to then engineer world peace, as easily as they engineered world war. They just direct resources and impressions that that is really their goal, but it is a ruse.

In fact their world peace, is based on 100% control of the global military war machine, and leads to their final agenda, the “four winds” period of attempted global depopulation, so dire, so real, so bad, Jesus Christ said this about it:

(Matthew 24:22) In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.

THAT is the “days” that God and Christ “cut short”, not the world government boys, they are exterminated in that phase of Armageddon, after being given total, dual, forewarning.

Now that says NO FLESH would be saved folks, we are talking all creation being put in jeopardy, by this total conglomeration of all global weaponry and energy technology, by one global 8th King King North power cabal backed by demons who very well would love to exterminate all life on Earth, before they are imprisoned in abyss as POW’s of Armageddon. At that time folks, the “elite agenda”, to simply disburden the planet of billions of “useless eaters”, for their “next generations”, to live high on the hog as global kings, will be overridden by the abyss-bound demon agenda of Satan.

THAT is why, that world peace period, becomes the most dangerous period of all human history, because God has no reason to protect goats from these globalist genocidal aims, in fact they can just aid God’s purpose, by giving the goats to the world power system they themselves have chosen, which may very well be how some of them end up in a “winepress of the anger of God”, but it is a “winepress” men of military system minds, have built on earth.

Final Note on the Future JW “Henny Penny” Global Laughing Stock Development

‘Where are you going, Hennypenny?’ says Cocky-locky. ‘Oh! I’m going to tell the king the sky’s a-falling,’ says Henny-penny.

(All WT quotes from Watchtower July 15, 2015 “Your Deliverance is Getting Near” article, or as noted.)

Here they have JWs expecting the “preaching work” to end, as implied from Bethel’s own evil mouth to be cancelled in this future time of tribulation:

9a This will not be the time to preach the “good news of the Kingdom.” That time will have passed. The time for “the end” will have come! (Matthew 24:14) 

Now with all “these things that must [still] take place”, which have been covered above, still having to form to present final world government in the future, in mind, imagine what JWs are going to look like going door to door with this so-called “hard hitting judgment message” as their ministry is cancelled and transformed into this one message of “judgment doom”.

9b No doubt God’s people will proclaim a hard-hitting judgment message. This may well involve a declaration announcing that Satan’s wicked world is about to come to its complete end. The Bible likens this message to hailstones when it says: “Great hailstones, each about the weight of a talent, fell from heaven on the people, and the people blasphemed God because of the plague of hail, for the plague was unusually great.”—Revelation 16:21.

Brothers and sisters, now IMAGINE Jehovah’s witnesses, in the start of their own temple judgment upon a UN allied and pedophile and money launderer infested and infiltrated APOSTATE ministry, going out to tell the world of its own “judgment” in its “complete end”. See the problem here?

1. That “end” will not arrive, as JWs expected, as covered here as to why.

2. Instead, Bethel will be being sacked and trampled as Daniel 8:13-14 in the Daniel 11:41 global INVASION of the JW Organization.

Imagine THAT!

And then, JWs are to take a “hard-hitting judgment message” to their neighbors and the world while their own house is crashing for many sins? (1Pet4:15-17) Is this some kind of cruel joke?

Yes it is, because King North guides this apostasy as per Daniel 11:32a, and yes, Jehovah’s witnesses are being set up to be the global laughing stock of modern times, THEY are to be the butt of this cruel joke.

Because that “judgment” is not coming yet, instead year over year will pass by, as JWs “hold their heads high” expecting Christ way way way too soon. As the months wind by, as the years of desolation of Daniel 8:13-14 run their course, as the global recovery foretold instead starts to form, as the sword-stroke eventually must be healed, for a more hopeful world system, JWs will have to finally admit, within a few years (Dan8:14; Hos6:1-3; Isa37:30-32):

Something, something is TERRIBLY WRONG HERE brothers! What gives? What happened here?

And that is when, we will have to inform the JWs who are left, of what is REALLY going on, and God and Christ will aid this recovery, it is to get great global attention when all these things come upon misled and apostatized JWs, as misled by their apostate and impostor enemy system backed leadership, just as exactly foretold in detail.

But think about this.

As this global crisis starts to go full blown, and Bethel starts to go into the desolations of the temple judgment (Dan11:41; Matt24:15), and JWs think in error it is all “the end” for real, over excited, shaken of reasoning ability, dull in discernment to the hyped up nth degree, THIS is what Bethel is telling them to expect:

8 Although we do not fully understand all that will happen during that time of test, we can expect that it will involve some measure of sacrifice. In the first century, Christians had to leave behind their possessions and endure hardships in order to survive. (Mark 13:15-18) To remain faithful, will we be willing to experience material loss? Will we be ready to do whatever is required of us to prove our loyalty to Jehovah? Just think! At that time, we will be the only ones following the example of the ancient prophet Daniel by continuing to worship our God no matter what.—Daniel 6:10, 11.

 

“At that time”, rather, super-hyped “its the end” JWs lemmings will be the only fools obeying deadly apostate men of the Governing Body of Pied Pipery,  for the enemy system,  inside the JW organization, there to send JWs to “safe house” of capture:

“”Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered:…

[And sandwiched into the admonishment:]

(3) At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (Watchtower, November 15, 2013, pg. 20, par. 17, #3)

“At that time”??? Folks, IT ALREADY SOUNDS CRAZY, CRAAAAAAY ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! OK? IF your IN THE ORG, GET OUT, NOW! (Matt24:15) This is ALREADY CRAZY TALK, OK? NUTS, INSANE, UNSOUND, DANGEROUS, DEADLY, WRONG, EVIL, NOT GOOD, BAD, WICKED, DECEPTIVE, LYING, ETC

 

Figuratively speaking, however, God’s people will flee to the refuge that Jehovah provides.

Brothers and sisters, do we see anything wrong with this picture?
Brothers and sisters, do we see anything wrong with this picture?
Brothers and sisters, do we see anything DEAD wrong with this evil picture?

And that is why, when we can, we need to help these poor misled Jehovah’s witnesses. They followed, they did not lead this folly, and we must keep that in mind. JWs would have just as willingly followed the real apostles of Christ, had they been there at Bethel, rather than these GB devils and frauds. But God had to allow the error to go to us too, to see if we love truth, more than sinner men and all their grandiose claims.

BUT we have to understand, wicked apostate and impostor leadership, NOT Jehovah’s witnesses own will, is what has misled Jehovah’s people at his time. We have to be armed with reality of prophecy, and ready to help Jehovah’s witnesses when, not if, they fall on very hard and bitter times, it is coming, THAT is why the Devil has gotten INSIDE of Bethel, to try to lead JWs to doom, and to have JW obey his Pied Piper to aid the process.

That “deliverance getting near” is NOT to God from Christ, it is to be an attempted “deliverance” of JWs to the martial enemy system authorities, plain and simple. THIS is real! And it is going to get more real, in the near future. And that is why the evil enemy inside of Bethel called that article “YOUR Deliverance is Getting Near”, they KNOW what that really means fro misled JWs “at that time”.

KNOW THIS

When Jehovah gets active on this modern GB enthroned “City of Murderers” (Matt22:1-14), and their slave beating, and sheep killing laws and policies, the world will see the Governing Body turned in to a heap of Gehenna bound CARNAGE, one way or another, spiritually or physically, because these men are involved with the current and future murderers of Jehovah’s people, and God will expose these demons for who, what, where and why they are allowed to exist for this exact purpose:

(Exodus 9:14-18) 14 For at this time I am sending all my blows against your heart and upon your servants and your people, to the end that you may know that there is none like me in all the earth. 15 For by now I could have thrust my hand out that I might strike you and your people with pestilence and that you might be effaced from the earth. 16 But, in fact, for this cause I have kept you in existence, for the sake of showing you my power and in order to have my name declared in all the earth. 17 Are you still behaving haughtily against my people in not sending them away? 18 Here I am causing it to rain down tomorrow about this time a very heavy hail, the like of which has never occurred…

That “hail” is coming for the WTBTS visible epicenter of God’s coming initial wrath on these criminals, so that we understand the meaning of this entire development, past, present, and the future it must unwind into for a final warning.

(Isaiah 28:18-19) And your covenant with Death will certainly be dissolved, and that vision of yours with Sheol will not stand. The overflowing flash flood, when it passes through—you must also become for it a trampling place. 19 As often as it passes through, it will take you men away, because morning by morning it will pass through, during the day and during the night; and it must become nothing but a reason for quaking TO MAKE OTHERS UNDERSTAND what has been heard.” (Dan11:41; Dan8:13-14)

This modern apostate signal cabal of evil at Bethel, as exemplified, led and fronted by the Governing Body Circus of Murder, is not going to escape, nor is their “smooth word” viper tongue mouth (Dan11:32a) going to forever “damage control” what they are really sowing, and that they will really reap in the future. It is the Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s witnesses, but all anointed Christians here that cry (Matt25:1-13), and wake up, but not all will make this divine cut.

And how will we know?

The “fool virgin” “oil” will not provide valid light, just more darkness.

Remember, the “five foolish virgins” do finally come back later, it is implied they get some oil to make that return…

(Matthew 25:11) …Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came…

…but it is implied “seller’s oil”, it is as fraudulent as what has led to this predicament in the first place, it will misinterpret the temple judgment meaning.

It may not even recognize it has been the temple judgment, it will not explain Daniel 8″13-14, and it will produce more error, but it will NOT be allowed in with the “five discreet virgin” final light up, of the truth of all these developments to enlighten the final warning, the “second witness”, of the “TWO witnesses”.

(Matthew 25:10-12) . . .and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell you the truth, I do not know you.’

And that is why there are TWO witnessings to precede the full-blown arrival of God and Christ to judge every human of earth, and save many, far beyond the narrow confines of the current JW smoke blowing delusion that they alone are to be saved.

In fact, had it been “the end” as JWs predict in error, UN NGO 666 toting JWs, even if totally misled, would be the first to be destroyed by God. Like the GB, JWs merely assume they are in good standing, in error, too. So, instead, the temple judgment will create the Daniel 8:14 “right condition” in the anointed Christian global body on earth, well before world government completes, to fully warn it will indeed trigger the Earth shaking arrival of the Christ of God Almighty, and he is coming when they are ready, complete and state in world peace, the final globally seen signal of his arrival.

Bethel is simply skipping over all this truth, to smokescreen their doom, to JWs, and to set them up like ducks for capture globally.

Big Salvation Message

The only thing we judge and condemn, as shown in prophecy, is apostate fake apostles of Revelation 2:2, the world receives the BIG SALVATION OFFER OF ALL TIME, that ANYONE can be saved, if God forgave JWs for their pile of mountainous sins, ANYONE can be saved by choosing Christ and God’s Kingdom, instead of 666 human erred world government as produced by the demons of the heavenly rebellion. (Eph6:12)

We have no reason to judge any other person or Christian, because all can repent and be saved, and the good news is, as per Revelation 14:1-8, Christ completes the “everlasting good news”, the preaching NEVER ENDS, and many will be saved, even from the newbie ranks of modern and current prisoners freed from the freshly to-be-destroyed likes of Babylon the Great, live and real-time, at that very time of Revelation 14:1-8 fulfillment.

This hope is going forth, backed by actual angels of Christ, in this salvation GUARANTEED OFFER:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

As the events that form this finality, are in action to this statement:

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

Thus many of God’s “my people” are still in, and will still be stuck in, various dungeons of Babylon the Great. As with ancient Babylon, when God topples Babylon the Great under world government authority, outlawed and deposed globally, some people, now currently in BTG, will be FREED to salvation! (Rev11:13) THAT is the hopeful meaning of why God deposed Babylon in the first place, to free his people, and tons of other people too, just like in 539 BCE, same story, same purpose, same salvation meaning, but this one is going to be the big one!

We have doom for the apostates claiming to have the seal, but not having it (Rev9), but we have the greatest message of hope and salvation for the world at large, even for people involved with the enemy system, so that this final warning, is also a final offer of guaranteed salvation for ANYONE willing, and thus the final message is “bittersweet”, yes, but balanced with great guaranteed hope that God and Christ are out to SAVE SHEEP FIRST, and ANYONE can respond. Jesus Christ will then expend MORE EFFORT making the salvation merchandise “pick up”, than he did expending his life, making the divine sacrifice, to even make that purchase in the first place.

There is a reason God and Christ call this “The Good News of God’s Kingdom”. Because it is GREAT NEWS! And it has to PROVE it is great news. And it will. They don’t call it the “good news”, for nothing. Many more people must hear the REAL GOOD NEWS, because ti is GOOD NEWS, for real.

The NWO, not God is who wants to kill billions, “Kill Bill”, but God wants to save billions. And that is GOOD NEWS, God will serve up the very doom, for the NWO, that th NWO has planned for many. THEY are who get doomsday, not the millions of global sheep.

 

Global Open Salvation—How Christ Completes His Own Ministry

Global Open Salvation—How Christ Completes His Own Ministry

Draft Short Version FAQ (August 2015)

Comment:

So for 2000 years, until 1931 — God waited for an organization in Brooklyn New York to carry his name?

Christians have never identified themselves as “Jehovah Witnesses”.

Sorry, I’m not buying it.

Response:

Glad you asked. Allow me to explain the fuller rationale here. JWs are a sign.

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This is the cycle coming up (Dan11:41-45) to start on Bethel (1Pet4:17), and “Jehovah’s” witnesses in anointed Christian focus (Rev8:3-5), that, in timed propehcy (Dan8:14; Dan12:7; Dan12:11), leads to World Government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11).

That rival 8th King/King North global sovereign world government entity, when completed and stated, triggers Christ’s arrival (Matt24:29-31; Rev11:11-12 converging into Rev14; Rev16:17-20), not before, but AFTER World Government  completes.

That takes several more years.

And it is ALL in prophecy, timed in temple judgment (Dan8:14; Rev8), for first verifications, then into recovery and final warning (Dan12:7; Rev11:2-3; Dan7:25; Rev12:14; Rev13:5-7 parallel 1260 days; Rev9-11), then to the timed 1290 day period in which Christ arrives (Rev11:11-12) AFTER it is active in final warning cessation (Rev11:7), and world government “placed” as the final “disgusting thing”. (Dan12:11; Rev17:8-18; Dan11:45; Dan8:25)

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Why Bethel Goes Down in Divine Judgment First

Christendom (and Babylon the Great as well) is too enormous to bring down next (and it is all useful for 666 promotions in the final cycle process).

That being the case, Bethel sacking of the temple judgment final cycle of Daniel 8:13-14 is timed and explained for events to come on that apostate Christian organization, in its leadership, for a sign.

(Timed as Dan8:14, Hos6:1-3; Isa37:30-32 as a modern 3 years “sign of Jonah” on Bethel tossed JWs, coming up)

After that, all Christians and all people possible receive a final global call (Matt25:1-13; Matt22:1-14; Hag2:7; Rev8-11), to all religions and peoples, for religion will continue to diminish (Rev16:12) as all these corporatized false prophets and their premature “the end” and “rapture” delusions fail (2Thess2:1-2), year over year, instead the world will be actually en route to world government and then Christ arrival. [1]

Because the final warning is ceased as Revelation 11:1-7 and Revelation 13:5-7, Daniel 12:7, Revelation 12:14, Daniel 7:25 (1260 days all parallel, final cycle final warning, and global events of Rev16:1-9), not all people can be reached globally:

(Matthew 10:23) When they persecute you in one city, flee to another; for truly I say to you, you will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel UNTIL the Son of man arrives.

And since Revelation 14 (final sequence) is all POST Christ arrival (Rev11:11-12), Christ completes the global reach of the ministry, 100%, here:

(Revelation 14:6-7) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

Because many are “not buying it” at this time, and Bethel UN apostasy sure aint helping (Dan11:32a; Dan8:12), this final cycle will run the full course as stated in prophecy based on the JW first pattern of 1914-1919.

And that is so that, by huge global events activating as in prophecy, many more people and Christians can make their final determination to serve God and Christ and their Kingdom of God and Messianic Kingdom Universal Rulership, then in complete prophetic form (Rev7:1-8; Rev14:1), rather than serve the 666 8th King King North World Government.

And that is why Revelation 14:9-11 also has that warning, still active while the above final global appeal backed by angels, all for real, in full global form is going forth.

Thus post Christ arrival Revelation 14:1, World Government is then also active globally (Ps110:2), while Revelation 14’s final post Christ arrival sequence is active globally.

World Government is still active in Revelation 14 time frame:

(Revelation 14:9-12) And another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. 12 Here is where it means endurance for the holy ones, those who observe the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.”

This below and above, is all under complete world government globally implemented, which Daniel 11:42-43 global wealth coup of King North (8th King; “new world order”), on King South (7th King; “old world order”), has aided:

(Revelation 13:15-18) And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast. 16 And it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name. 18 Here is where wisdom comes in: Let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a man’s number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

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And because the Revelation 14:8 “Babylon the Great has fallen” (Rev18:8) divine judgment is being completed live and real-time at that time, in the Revelation 14 final part of the cycle, under world government “one hour” of Revelation 17:12)…:

(Revelation 14:8) And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!” (Rev16:12-20, Rev17:15-18)

…we know Babylon the Great overall, and ” Christendom Incorporated” within BTG, just the main “harlot” of ” BTG Incorporated” as the final religious global complex in 666- Christendom, ALL goes down 666, UNDER WORLD GOVERNMENT COMPLETE, which world government they will aid, by selling it to people as the finale “God’s Kingdom” COUNTERFEIT DECOY, with the arrival of Satan (Eze37:8) decoying as “Jesus second coming” with the demons playing “Christ’s angels”.

Satan presents ALL of his decoys prematurely as the real thing, in this final cycle climax. [1]

God must let it run the full global course, because failed Bethel prophecy first, and all of Christendom prophecy next (specifically “the rapture” failure), will aid people’s awareness that something else is going on. Mass global prophecy failure aids the BTG “waters drying up” in Revelation 16:12 deep 6th plague event.

Satan must present his decoys prematurely, in order to cloak all the counterfeits he shall present to the world, under false prophecy of Christendom, other religions, and general error created by Christendom “anti-Christ” ideas, all to fully manifest prematurely.

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SATAN PRESENTS HIS [ENTIRE] GLOBALIZED COUNTERFEIT SYSTEM [[FIRST]]—AND THAT GLOBALLY.
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Required 7th King Fall and Global Crisis, Not “The End”

In such manner, the 7th King “old world order” nation-state system downfall can be sold to people, as it is being primed now in JWs by Bethel subversion, as “the end” prematurely to achieve maximum deceptive effect. [2] (2Thess2:1-2)

The 7th King “fall”, enables 8th King World Government “global rise” in this drawn out process. (Rev13:3; Rev17:8-18)

7th King downfall (Dan11:42-43), coming up as the global crisis of the “tribulation of those days” actually will “heal”, instead, into 8th King globalized (Rev16:13-16) world government (Rev13:3; Matt24:29; Rev17:8)

Then a post final “sword stroke” world war jubilation will occur instead (Rev13:3; Rev17:8; Isa41:1), with that World Peace and Security final sovereign claim and pitch of World Government (1Thess5:1-3), parallel Daniel 8:25 Global ” Freedom From Care”. That greatly hopeful global final period at global scale of “healing” is used formulaically, a final time (1919, 1945, 1990, future), in order to sell the “solution” of Satan’s World Government.

All four United Nations presentations are actually in prophecy.

World Government, aka, “8th King” “King North” (Dan11:44-45 converges into Dan12:11), under great global hopefulness amplified by the preceding “Global Doomsday” impression” BEING RELIEVED (whew! that was close everyone!), “as though slaughtered to death” (Rev13:3), but only for impression purposes, is then accepted by many in the world under this deceptive dialectic formula APPLIED GLOBALLY.

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And that is why Christ makes that final Revelation 14:6-7 appeal “in person”, to offer OPEN SALVATION even after his arrival, especially after his arrival, to save many people first! (Hag2:7)

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CHRIST MUST FINISH HIS OWN MINISTRY, GLOBALLY. (Rev10:5-11) And that is also when all straggling Christians, and others (Rom2:12-16), GLOBALLY are offered salvation, and are “sheep” and “goat” assessed in the process.
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Bringing judgment on Bethel is the first big signal of these final cycle truths.

In time, the truth is, people will face the “new world order” first, as 8th King world government, 7 to 8, AFTER the “old world order” 7th King totally falls into King South subservience as per Daniel 11:42-43. Daniel 11:42-43 comes with the Bethel global anti-JW-org “invasion” of Daniel 11:41, as Daniel 8:13-14, Zechariah 3:2, Ezekiel 10, Revelation 8:3-5 as 1 Peter 4:17.

So now we do not have to assume what is going on in this final formulaic global cycle, but I understand people (JWs  too) have not heard this fuller rationale in general, and in time all that above, actually manifesting globally, will attempt to wake many people up (Hag2:7; Rev11:13), to the real reality people will be facing first: WORLD GOVERNMENT, and the Christ of God arrival it will trigger (Dan12:11) in global conflict as Armageddon climaxes into the “war of the great day of God the Almighty”; JEHOVAH, YAHWEH, YHWH.

God is giving a prelude full “little scroll” warning (Rev9-11), after apostate UN-Bethel goes down as apostate to be exposed as Revelation 8 first four trumpets, four trumpets of the temple judgment explained (Rev8:7-12). The Revelation 8:3-5 temple judgment parallel is in Daniel 8:13-14, Malachi 3:1-5, Zechariah 3:1-5, because this is the real thing. (1Pet4:17)

That reality of the final global cycle en route to world government, just BEGINS with the Bethel downfall (Dan11:41; Dan8:13), for a GREAT GLOBAL SIGNAL of global judgment to complete thereafter (1Pet4:17), over several years full of big GLOBAL milestones like those just mentioned.

We are talking the temple judgment (Rev8; Dan8:13-14), to the ministerial recovery (Rev9-10), during 7th King downfall (Rev16:1-9; Dan11:42-43), for a FINAL WARNING (Rev11:1-7), as it proceeds into world government global presentation (Rev11:7 “ascension” of Rev17:8-12; Dan11:45; Dan8:25).

Hence that “8th King” “scarlet wildbeast” world government completion is the trigger of the Christ arrival (Rev11:11-12; Dan12:11; Matt24:30-31), with YEARS of plenty of GLOBAL SIGNALS to help clue people into salvation, aided by these huge global milestones that but start, with apostate Bethel downfall. (Hag2:7)

Christ SAVES many first (Matt25:31-40 parallel Rev14:14-16), BEFORE the “goat” event of Matthew 24:41-46 parallel Revelation 14:17-20 winepress total end (Matt24:14), WHILE World Government is fully active at global scale. (Ps110:2)

(Psalm 110:2) The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion (Rev14:1), [saying:] “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.”

Timed Temple Judgment Validation of Daniel 8:13-14

The temple judgment precursor coming up, is timed in Daniel 8:13-14 for those not buying it at this time, for proof of the temple judgment. It is a temple judgment of anointed Christians, then in time of ALL Christians, and the world of all of mankind, 100%.

But since Bethel is of the proper scale, and yet the globally known, UN allied, and lawless, (as per prophecy) modern signal (2Thess2:1-4; Zech3:1-3), Bethel can be used for the visible global cue and “judgment of God” prelude global- epicenter (1Pet4:17; Rev8).

That Bethel judgment (Rev8) then aids the final explanation (Rev9-11) and final enlightenment period of the global “five discreet virgins” parallel final “two witnesses” (Rev10-11:1-7; Matt25:1-13), as all these things REPEAT and parallel the prophecy preview already given to Jehovah’s witnesses in the 1914-1919 ministerial boiler plate master preview pattern. [4]

It just REPEATS to 8th King world government, rather than the League of Nations “image”, but now the whole 8th King GLOBAL WORLD GOVERNMENT kit and caboodle.

THEN Christ arrives.

Many “not buying it now”, will “buy it” by then, one way or another. (Hag2:7; Rev11:13) This respects both the future final cycle, and the first Jehovah’s witnesses anointed Christian ministerial cycle of 1914-1919.

And that is why there are TWO witnessings:

Why TWO Witnesses?
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/why-two-witnesses/
https://jwupdate.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/why_two_witnesses_revelation11.pdf

[1]

World Government and Premature “Fulfillment” of Prophecy
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/07/05/world-government-and-premature-fulfillment-of-prophecy/

[2]

8th King World Government Rise with 7th King Nation State Fall
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/world-government/8th-king-world-government-rise-with-7th-king-nation-state-fall/

King 8 Versus King 7—The New World Order to Capture the Old World Order
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/king-8-versus-king-7-the-new-world-order-to-capture-the-old-world-order/

8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/8-kings-why-the-7th-king-anglo-american-national-system-must-fall/
[3]

All Four United Nations Presentations are Foretold in Bible Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/all-four-united-nations-presentations-are-foretold-in-bible-prophecy/

Four Time World War to World Government Formula
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/four-time-world-war-to-world-government-formula/

[4]

Repeating Cycles: The Whole Prophecy Repeats Starting With The Temple Judgment Portion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/what-we-know-now-the-whole-prophecy-repeats-starting-with-the-temple-judgment/

Four Winds of World Government “8th King”

Four Winds of World Government “8th King”
The “Four Winds” of Matthew 24:31 Cross Connects to the “Four Winds” of Revelation 7:1-4

Many people try to say when Jesus said this: “and he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the FOUR WINDS” that he was using “four winds” as a redundant figurative description of this: ” from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.”

But in reality Jesus Christ is God’s Son and transmits perfect prophecy, not useless redundancy. ALL of those words have greater meaning for those who have “ears to listen”. (Matt11:15; Rev13:9)

That “four winds” is the same “four winds” “of the earth” with an exact linking “four winds” terminology to an important parallel completion in Revelation 7 which is also leading to a similar comprehensive global “gathering” of anointed and earthling “sheep” just like the global “gathering” in Matthew 24:31:

1. Anointed sheep:

(Revelation 7:1-4) After this I saw four angels standing upon the four corners of the earth, holding tight the FOUR WINDS of the earth, that no wind might blow upon the earth or upon the sea or upon any tree… “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.” 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed…

2. Earthling sheep:

(Revelation 7:13-14) And in response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” 

Thus we have the “FOUR WINDS”, we have the comprehensive completion “gathering”, and we have the totality of that completion in heavenly and earthly groups, all in one Christ sentence.

(Mark 13:27) And then he will send forth the angels and will gather his chosen ones together from the FOUR WINDS, from earth’s extremity to heaven’s extremity.

Parallel:

(Matthew 24:31) And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

It is OBVIOUSLY the same period in Revelation 7 and Matthew 24:31, Mark13:27.

Christ’s Exact Words True Meaning

1. Thus the “earth’s extremity” is the earth “sheep” group, and the “heaven’s extremity” is the anointed “sheep” group dual global “gathering” completions.

2. The “four winds” is not some unneeded grammatical redundancy, it is the needed exact “four winds” Matthew 24:31 world link to Revelation 7:1-4.

3. The “tribulation of those days” is NOT “the end”, it is a global transitionary initial phase leading to 8th King world government, which leads to Christ’s arrival after it completes.

4. Thus when Christ arrives for that final global “gathering” first, it must occur under full 8th King world government in global implementation, the very milestone the “tribulation of those days” is actually leading to.

Thus, no wonder Christ’s “sign of the son of man” is what manifests with all these global system “darkening” effects of world government “immediately after” that global “tribulation of those days” transition into the “four winds” phase under full “8th King” world government as the “tribulation of those days” expires on its own directly into that final world government period—and thus Christ’s eventual guaranteed arrival marked by all these global milestone events!:

1. Tribulation of those days as 7th King downfall;

2. “tribulation of those days” resolution;

3. Emergence of 8th King world government;

Unique Tribulation of Those Days  

(Matthew 24:29-30) “Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days… 

In fact several other things also occur BEFORE Christ arrives:

1. ” the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven,”

2. ” and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.”

(the whole sovereign structure of world rulership has changed. The Revelation 6:12-17 parallel.)

3 “AND THEN the SIGN of the Son of man will appear in heaven,”

4. “AND THEN all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation,”

(And finally:)

5. “AND they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”

(Rev11:11-12 parallel of Christ’s arrival)

Thus the symbolisms there cannot just be whisked by as if the “tribulation of those days” is synonymous with the whole “great tribulation”, which obviously it cannot be “cut short” and yet resolve on its own before Christ even arrives as explicitly described in the above.

Also, the “tribulation of those days” CANNOT be synonymous with the “four winds” as well. Rather, it is the initial phase that leads to the “four winds” final phase, as plainly shown by Christ in Matthew 24:31—That “four winds” there is not some redundancy or accident, it is the purposeful divine prophetic exact term “four winds” link to Revelation 7’s “four winds”.

And it is “four winds” “OF THE EARTH”, as a human system inspired period of final 8th King world government agenda destructions of Daniel 11:44-45 and Daniel 8:25 to empower Revelation 11:7 (two witnesses ceased), Revelation 13:15-18 (666 resisters killed) and Revelation 17:15-18 (global religious system deposition).

Thus the “attack” modes of Daniel 11:44-45 and Daniel 8:25 and Revelation 13:15-18 are also in the “four winds” period under 8th King world government in Matthew 24:29-31 transition, and that is why Christ arrives at that time to “gather” “from” that exact “four winds” final period of final divinely permitted 8th King selective destructions, “during” the “freedom from care” of 8th King world recovery “healing” and “world peace” and security parallels. (Isa41:1; Rev13:3; 1Thess5:1-3)

(Matthew 24:31) And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

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And in that final sequence logic, we know WHY the “tribulation of those days” is also termed uniquely, it is no accident it is called the “tribulation of those days” as opposed to just the “great tribulation”—it is a first phase of the far greater “great tribulation” as it leads to the “four winds” final phase.

1. This is because the “tribulation of those days” is but the FIRST PHASE of the overall “great tribulation”, the 7th King/King South downfall period (Dan11:42-43; Rev13:3), that globally signals coming 8th King world government (Rev17:8), which signals Christ’s arrival by great global “rocking” changes (Hag2:7; Rev16:1-9; Dan11:41-43) that “heal” into 8th King world government, NOT “the end” yet. (Rev13:3; Rev17:8; Isa41:1)

2. The “FOUR WINDS” period is the final phase of the “great tribulation” and it occurs under full 8th King world government complete, AFTER the “tribulation of those days” resolves, which “four winds” will be the most dangerous demonic period of all human history enabled by global wealth, financial and weapons monopoly of the 8th King at truly global all controlling scale. (Rev13:15-18; Dan11:42-45; Rev17:11-18; Joel3:9-12)

That is why there is 8th King “world peace” at the time the “tribulation of those days” is resolving into that “world peace and security” signal worldwide-milestone of full world government complete.

World Peace and “Four Winds” Concurrent “During a Freedom From Care”

The “tribulation of those days” leads to the “four winds” of world government and its final world peace SIGNAL. (1Thess5:1-3)

1. By that time the “8th King”/”King North” system will control all the global weapons systems;

2. “7th King”/”King South” “old world order” national sovereignty will be a thing of the past,

And that is why  there is no more sovereign national conflict based “wars and reports” (Matt24:6 inverts); it is “world peace” by “8th King” uni-polar “King North” sovereign domination definition and global “bring many to ruin” enforcement. (Rev17:11-18; Dan11:45/Dan12:11; Dan8:25)

Thus Revelation 13:15-18 is also under complete world government.
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That ” sun will be darkened” “darkening” effect is upon the “old world order” of “7th King” down fall fallen “lights” being replaced by the 8th King world government “new world order” “sun” system, as in time the 8th King too get the “disturbing” realization of their own “darkening” to be replaced by the then completing Messianic Kingdom. (Dan11:44; Rev6:12-17)

Thus what occurs “immediately after the tribulation of those days” is darkening “lights out” for the “old world order”. Then Christ’s sign appears. It is not a slam dunk at that time, it is a process completing and transitioning into a final period, the 8th King world government “one four” final phase of global-sovereign 8th King rivalry. (Rev17:8-12)

Final Sealing DURING the “Tribulation of Those Days”

Even the “sign” of Christ’s arrival precedes him as well. When Christ does arrive, it is to first complete the Messianic Kingdom. Of course, the final anointed must be “signaled” and “gathered” to completion first, hence why this period of actual Christ arrival is in the actually fully anointed completion and fully affirmation sealed condition of Revelation 7:1-4, all finalized DURING the “tribulation of those days” NOT before it. (Rev11:1-7)

That final sealing is actually to be enabled by the 1260 days “two witnesses” (Rev11:2-3) anointed Christians accomplishing that preceding 1260 day final “little scroll” final Messianic Kingdom global-warning which was in fact leading (Rev11:1-7) to these very final events of 8th King and Messianic Kingdom concurrent COMPLETIONS.

And that is why the “four winds” also occurs after Christ arrives into 8th King global sovereign culmination into world government having completed prior to Christ’s arrival, to enable not the end yet, but Christ’s final gathering FIRST:

(Matthew 24:31) And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

If we notice their is no “end” in Matthew 24:29-31, it is instead the very important marked global transition period and point leading directly to Christ’s arrival. Matthew 24:31 activates Revelation 14:1-20, the post Christ arrival and completion totally final global salvation and “the end” sequence.

When God and Christ finally do conquer the complete 8th King (2Thess1:6-10; Rev19:19-21), that is the direct “cut short the days” (Matt24:21-22) of the “four winds” period of 8th King world government. And that occurs AFTER all the global sheep, of all groups, is fully completed FIRST. Then the true end comes, the time period God and Christ “cut short” by direct divine actions (Dan2:31-45; Zeph3:8). It is the “four winds” of 8th King world government “one hour” that is ceased forever by direct divine conquest:

(Daniel 2:44) It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;

(Revelation 19:20) While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur.

(2 Thessalonians 1:6-8) 6 This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you, 7 but, to you who suffer tribulation, relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire…

(Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”

THAT is when the “four winds” is CUT SHORT by full divine intervention.

(Matthew 24:21-22) for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were CUT SHORT, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.

The “tribulation of those days” does not end in such fashion, it resolves on its own into 8th King world government. It is that 8th King world government final period which is to be finally ceased by God and Christ by direct divine intervention to “CUT SHORT” those days of the “four winds” of 8th King world government final agenda by direct divine conquest, well AFTER the “tribulation of those days” has expired.


Future 7th King Downfall and “Tribulation of Those Days” is NOT “The End”

Now we know the period coming for the “7th King” “King South” predominated “old world order” nation-state global system will include wars AND DISORDERS, signalling instead this “tribulation of those days” period coming up, is NOT yet the end.

This is a VERY VERY IMPORTANT clue from Jesus Christ:

(Matthew 24:6) you are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that you are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.

(Luke 21:9) Furthermore, when you hear of wars AND DISORDERS, do not be terrified. For these things must occur first, but the end does not [occur] immediately.”

The 7th King downfall period gearing up now, which many global researchers explain in “signs” of massive global economic and financial collapse and potential of world war (Luke21:25-26), is a great final global stressing “tribulation” period to resolve not in “the end”, but in the complete full “8th” “King” “ascension” FIRST. (Rev17:8-12; Rev11:7; Rev13:5-7,15-18) 8th King world government is also not “the end”, it is a required final global affront to God’s Kingdom in Revelation 17:11-18 and Daniel 11:45 (Dan12:11 convergence), Daniel 8:25).

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8th King “Scarlet Wildbeast” World Government is the final global milestone to signal Christ’s full arrival.
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It is under 8th King FULL WORLD GOVERNMENT “World Peace” of their final global sovereign claim period that the real end is signaled when all those former “wars and reports of wars” are ceased globally by sovereign 8th King global monopoly:

(1 Thessalonians 5:1-3) Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape. 

And thus that “world peace” period, also after the “tribulation of those days”, is this final 8th King “bring many to ruin” agenda period “DURING” a “freedom from care”:

(Daniel 8:25) And in his heart he will put on great airs, and during a freedom from care he will bring many to ruin. And against the Prince of princes he will stand up, but it will be without hand that he will be broken.

That “freedom from care” comes when the peak period global “sword stroke” is globally “healed” by the big world government global “solution”, as the whole Revelation 13 “sword-stroke-to-healing” process and the Revelation 17:8-12 world government “scarlet wildbeast” “ascends from abyss” are SIMULTANEOUS processes leading to full 8th King world government.

And that is why Christ will not arrive, and the end will not come, UNTIL that final global defiant sovereign 8th King world government entity is good and ready and complete for the final Armageddon battle with God and Christ, in full form of true “8th King” global government. The current United Nations “image” is NOT complete world government, just the international nucleus of it, so that is not the “end all” of global power development.

World government will include the UN in some final “abyss risen” form in the process, but its global power system includes all the national financial and weapons infrastructures at total global scope and scale of completion, a total “scarlet wildbeast” final global whole entity.

As all global national sovereignty is deposed and converged into globalized “gathering” of Revelation 16:13-16 and Revelation 17:11-18, 8th King global government will be complete.

Final Universal Sovereign Convergence

1. The “8th King” whole “scarlet wildbeast”, is the Daniel 2 “immense image” WHOLE as world government.

2. The 8th King whole, is the Daniel 8 “King Fierce in Countenance” WHOLE as world government.

3. The 8th King whole, is the Daniel 11 “King North” WHOLE as world government.

4. The 8th King whole and “seven headed” Satanic ruling “dragon”, is the Ezekiel 38 “Gog of Magog” WHOLE as world government, with Satan as global “king” “from the remotest parts of the north” in universal “heavenly places” spirit power, for final confrontation with God and Christ and the whole Kingdom of God and its final Messianic Kingdom of Christ universal sovereign agency.

Globalist “King North” absorbs nationalist “King South” into global sovereignty. (Dan11:42-43)

The Revelation 17 [globalist] 8th King “scarlet wildbeast” absorbs the Revelation 13 [nationalist] “seven headed” “wildbeast from the sea” into global sovereignty. (Rev17:11-18)

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8th King/King North World Government as Simple as Possible

http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/8th-kingking-north-world-government-as-simple-as-possible/

Temple Judgment to World Government to Christ Arrival

http://templelijah.wordpress.com/graphics-of-final-cycle/temple-judgment-to-world-government-to-christ-arrival-revelation-11-and-daniel-12/

Progressive National to Final Globalist World Power in Bible Prophecy
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/un-fourth-cycle-soon/progressive-national-to-final-globalist-world-power-in-bible-prophecy/

8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/world-war-4-un-4-0/8-kings-why-the-7th-king-anglo-american-national-system-must-fall/

The 8th King World Government: Convergence of Global Sovereignty— Convergence of All Bible Prophecy Symbolisms

https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/03/31/8th-king-world-government-convergence-of-global-sovereignty-convergence-of-all-bible-prophecy-symbolisms/

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Revelation 13 Replication and World Government

https://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/revelation-13-replication-and-world-government/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/revelation_13_replication_and_world_government.pdf

Future Global War “Sword-Stroke” and “Healing” “Ascension” of Full 8th King World Government

https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/future-global-war-sword-stroke-to-define-un-peace-keeping-abyss-impotence/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/revelation_13_and_17_future_global_war_sword-stroke_and_the_healing_ascension_of_full_8th_king_world_government.pdf

Bethel Silence on Modern Global Developments

Bethel Silence on Modern Global Developments

Bethel Ignores 8th King Globalization “Gathering” Evidence of Revelation 16:13-16 and Other Prophecies Now Active

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Question:

As you say “everybody and his brother knows this stuff now”, is it possible the GB don’t HAVE to talk about it?

Response:

From 1914 to the time of the GB coup of 1976, JWs used to be speaking of global developments in marked events and or principles live and real-time, of MODERN events while they were happening. That is no longer the case, and yes we should be leading the globalist exposure AND, unlike many others, TYING IT ALL TO PROPHECY PRINCIPLES—live and real-time; it should be PART of our truly “awake” ministry.  There are principles involved that can be well explained by aid of global research: see [1].

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I really want to explain this logically so you know it is no innocent ignorance up at Bethel—and it is NOT what old school classic Jehovah’s witness Christians [used to be] known for: live and real-time commentary of prophecy and world power development heading for the climax maturation.

But no more.

In addition, is a symptom of a disinformation and distraction complex, for the far larger global ignorance campaign that blinds and diverts people from the notable SIGNS of world government forming. Bethel is just one sector, a recent sector of organized ignorance override, by planned disinformation; in Bethel, using the truth to cover up the truth. See [2].

This is an OVERALL WORLD GOVERNMENT PROCESS that took time, and it starts to show signs of maturity and in the global research the devices it is using are being exposed, as are, for example, the basic global-financial principles of this process. Thus the global research is not all “conspiracy theory”, it is developing common themes of how global domination is forming. It all boils down to the same concept, and now there is literally volumes upon volumes of research and documentaries on various subjects [and histories] in this overall world government theme that ties it all together. It cannot be simply all wrong, some details may error, some speculations may error, but overall it has IDd what they are up to: bringing in world government; and how.

Of course that is going to be prophecy in principle and the end objective milestone.

Luke 21:25-26 Global Signals

Luke 21:25-28 is a Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27 parallel prophecy in a specific sense in that the “signs” precede the real events. So the unique thing about Luke’s version, is it is the SIGNS that come BEFORE the real thing. Luke is foretelling the SIGNALS (now fully present from the world’s “lights” and systems themselves), that in time lead to the actual events of Matthew 24:29-31, coming forth BEFORE those very real global events:

(Luke 21:25-26) “Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Thus the prophecy is that ominous, telling, signals will precede big global events. These things need to be explained in time, for Bethel now ignores all modern prophecy. These “signs” will continue to be “seen” all the way to the real events fully manifesting at global scale, for they are signs of the end of the “old world order”. They are signs of global transition into the “new world order” as full 8th King world government.

What we gather is world government will not pop up tomorrow, and it will give more “signals” of its arrival [before] it arrives in full, “ascends” in full, from an “abyss” state it also has yet to enter, again. (See [3])

The “sun, moon and stars” is symbolic of human societal and governmental “lights” in this “old world order”, “signs” from the systems of the “old world order” itself, bad signs, red flags, ominous signals of instability and change. In this prophecy the “signs” are ominous signal developments that start to emerge, more and more, globally, indicating ominous developments are what it is all signaling for the whole nation-state system model, the “old world order” readying for replacement.

This means RIGHT NOW signs are emerging from the system itself with dire warnings. OBVIOUSLY alternative news and research is full of these kinds of warnings and exposé’s of what is really going on in global finance, military and compromised national governments and agencies; to name but a few areas being exposed as unstable and or developing for greater purposes. And all of it has a link into PROCESSES in prophecy that are forming world government—prophecy NOW ACTIVE at the same time.

Prophecy now being concealed by apostate globalist aiding Bethel.

And further at odds with the over-simplistic Bethel delusion complex, is that these “signs” are not of “the end”, but of a final cycle. And one that repeats (see [4]), at that, it is a cyclic global-cycle we are seeing building up in all these “signs”. And as detailed as some of these signs are, they also have examples of research that explains the basic function of these processes, how they fundamentally work to secure power and wealth consolidation, now uniquely at truly global scale. This is very important, and no wonder Bethel will not reveal things that disprove their premature delusion, for that delusion can be used against JWs, when the time for this cycle to go full blown active arrives.

Thus the global research on all these “signs” of system function to support global domination developments, systemic national governmental corruption and eventual subservience, enormous global debt compromise, Satanic connections to elitist power systems and families, ALL THE CONSPIRATORIAL SUBJECT MATTER, has relation to prophecy, and it IN ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT, and related to this REQUIRED set of global portents there at Luke 21:25. Now keep in mind Luke 21:25-26 precedes the real events, it is a prophecy of SIGNS that uniquely emerge BEFORE it really hits.

(Matthew 24:32-33) “Now learn from the fig tree as an illustration this point: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and it puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 Likewise also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors. 

Thus Luke 21:25-26 “signs” are related to the overall “sign” of Christ’s arrival. ALL of it relates to features of 8th King world government completion work, in progress, the Bible explains the main principles of their final power development. ([1])

Examples of Active Prophecy Continuums to World Government

The point of this is that just as world developments are progressive to the world government goal, so is the prophecies that forecast that progression to that goal, because that world government goal when reached, triggers God and Christ, plain and simple. Thus as we see the global system maturing to their goal, we can gauge the milestone cycle and events leading to that confrontation known as Har-Magedon.

Thus Bethel selling a simplistic “it is the end brothers! forget all else!” is of course a dereliction of duty, by omission, of final developmental details now overflowing in the global research. Now if non-religious commentators can get this zealous in their own exposé’s, of course a comatose “Asleep!” Bethel is suspect, THEY SHOULD BE LEADING THE PACK!  Because it is PROPHECY now fulfilling in these progressions and required continuums, to the world government goal, that Bethel is IGNORING AS POLICY, JW dumbing down policy. (WT 3/15/2015)

Thus Bethel’s own progressive apostasy at Daniel 8:11-13 and Daniel 11:30-35,41 is what we are instead actually seeing, as it has co-developed since 1990 (see [5]), when Bethel also conveniently ignored that 3rd UN presentation—a presentation of a UN third step of four, to world government.

So for example Daniel 11:40 (global globalist system invasion), Joel 3:9-12 (global military), Daniel 11:42-43 (global wealth control), Revelation 17:11-18 (uni-polar sovereign convergence), Revelation 16:12-16 (globalization “gathering” of nations) are ALL processes that take time, that are active NOW, that relate explicitly to the main developmental progressive forms of world power shifting to the globalist 8th King backing camp at global scale (as is Daniel 11:36-39, and Daniel 8:23-24 as applied to 8th King development, not the current Bethel diversions); and all of those processes equate to world government as the end product, the real global objective they culminate into over this final cycle also emerging as part of the process of these global research revelations.

All of those prophecies have active development in the evidence of this global research subject matter; that Bethel is now IGNORING.

Daniel 11:42-43 and Revelation 17:11-18 are notably incomplete as is Revelation 16:12-16, but all of these things above, will continue to progress to a global monopoly, and to a full maturation of what they are indicating is eventually a climax culmination condition. And also note, the Bible, in very little words, IDs the main principles to be aware of in these prophecies main progressive meanings, and the main global power developments in wealth, military and governmental control, and its religious harlot complex positioning. (Rev16:12,19; Rev17:15-18). The BTG “harlot” is actually totally powerless (but are a spiritual sovereignty at Rev17:18, to be deposed as well), the “harlot” id there to mislead, divide and lie to help mislead the masses in that particular sector.

And we have supra-national global institutions, corporate complexes, and organizations, at globalist developmental levels of world ability and authority to operate internationally, that are now well known in alternative research circles. (Hence Revelation 13:11-15 and the meaning of the “two horned wildbeast” actual Anglo-American based globalist elite systems, above and beyond national government authority in that “seven headed wildbeast” (Rev13:1), also exercising its authority as per that Revelation 13:12 detail. )

(Revelation 13:11-12) And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed.

Note the “healing” process aids its world government presentation in that principle active since WW1 was resolved into that League of Nations “image” first presentation in 1919.

(Revelation 17:8) The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world.

Note the “abyss ascension” also aids the presentation of world government, thus the whole final process is concurrent, healing and abyss ascension, as it is obviously related to presenting world government. ([3])

Bible Reveals The Three Dominant Forms of Real Global “Power and Authority”

The REAL world power triad is (1) FINANCE/WEALTH control, (2) globalized military and (3) government control, in that order, because wealth control drives everything else. Militaries ultimately exist to protect wealth, and to seize more wealth. Governments are the puppet shows for the masses to legalize it all and get all involved in their sector of influence. (much like the JW “government” of the Governing Body and Bethel; they are all tools of greater powers)

Wealth is also what establishes national governments to maturity, hence all the loans the national governments need to exist. So wealth power defines the monetary system and all together that is the main nucleus of world power and how and why things get done to make them richer and more powerful owners of things. (Hence Revelation 13:15-18, when that Daniel 11:42-43 culminates in the future.)

As per Daniel 11:42-43, wealth control is actually the most powerful form of control. Wealth control in Daniel 11:42-43 is achieved FIRST, before total global sovereign control of Daniel 11:44-45 and Revelation 17:11-18.

Religion in the BTG symbol, is just a “harlot”, it has no true power, its function is divisions, disinformation (like at Bethel), delay/diversion and confusion, that the real-power-triad uses to “divide and conquer”; and the religious dimension aids that process for the whole final cycle. Then it is deposed. Like a harlot, the “kings of the earth’ support and allow religions to operate as “escorts” to aid their credibility and to help sell their lies and scams because war is always involved in expanding wealth and power, thus murder and killing must be made honorable, legal and systematized through state and religion working together in that profiteering orgy.

The harlot rides the wildbeast as a drunken freeloader, NOT the driver. (Rev17:1-6)

But the globalist bankers, industrialists, weapon technocrats and elites are who cash in on real wealth and power, progressive, in especially every world war cycle, it is the big super-phase of wealth and power consolidation. National powers just end up used, in debt, and enslaved to the financiers, it is all part of the world war process that doles the debt (and profits) out at massive magnitude in that cycle. This is how war, has aided the end of the “old world order”, not by force, but by loss of real wealth, for debts and interest. The debts are generally paid, the INTEREST is what remains hanging, and in time that set-up means global default in some manner when this cycle runs for a final global stressing cycle. Now we know what the “tribulation of those days” is, it is that cycle, that transition out of the “old world order”, and its “lights”, to the “new world order” as world government, hence why the lights go out for the nation-state whole system, in Matthew 24:29, as previewed in Luke 21:25-26 SIGNALS now being seen globally.

(Matthew 24:29-31) “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

So an important feature is, at this transition point is when Christ arrives, AFTER that whole “tribulation of those days” has EXPIRED on its own, AFTER the tribulation of those days, is when Christ arrives. The other important feature is, Christ gives a signal of arrival first, and when he does arrive it still is NOT “the end”, he gathers all the sheep first.  VERY IMPORTANT! Because this is not “the end” segway, this is what enables Revelation 14, and its WHOLE FINAL SEQUENCE. (See [6])

But in that real-power-triad transcending the nation-state, transcending the “old world order’, the UN is the legislative global-governmental center (not the whole, but its “supreme court” and “government forum”), GLOBAL-UN-NATO will become a global military body all will join willingly or by force as per Revelation 17:11-18, and the globalist banking/wealth control system will be the main guide system for a world government sector of global ownership, legally defined by that final global tier of true world government.

Thus that triad, is what forms world government.

And since 1990, in that 3rd UN presentation of the “New World Order” objective, comes the post-1990 globalization wave all economic socialist systems were scrapped for global-capitalism, WITH the fall of the USSR, that Bethel could explain as all of these more and more detailed volumes of global research is now explaining, now disconnected from prophetic processes with Bethel’s aid, all in active development with all this, that could be FULLY EXPOSED. The picture forming, is not “the end”, but the final cycle to complete that world government. And in that final cycle, the whole prophecy also converges into final fulfillment as a mirroring final cycle into a climax global situation.

Bethel could very clearly show this is a global-process, the globalist “two horned wildbeast” elements are being IDd by the world itself. NOW the “two horned wildbeast”, an independent “wild beast”, could EASILY be identified with the main developmental power systems of the Anglo-American GLOBALIST ELITES. They are the main architects of world government around its international UN “image” (Rev13:11-15)—the whole world, well many researchers, are plainly exposing all this “globalist” information.

Thus Bethel could, but will not, expose the globalist tier of Anglo-American based, true world power that defines the “two horned wildbeast” lead world government architects much more clearly than their current “its the 7th King” head, which is a national system, which is not the GLOBALIST based “two horned wildbeast” reality.

Thus Bethel will NOT UPDATE PROPHECY, that could be updated with the aid of this modern globalism research. BETHEL IS STALLING AN DIVERTING JWs, with also the use of old errors, they stubbornly maintain as “truth” in the face of contrary global evidence of more advanced understanding.

Why is Bethel diverting attention to a dated interpretation that is not the real globalist development the “two horned wildbeast” is? Because they are controlled by them (Dan11:32a, Dan8:12), with the rest of the “harlot” religious organizations. And that too is in prophecy, and of course Bethel is NOT going to expose themselves as apostate traitors and impostors (Dan11:32a) fulfilling the signal prophecy they are instead diverting attention from, while they fulfill it instead.

Bethel will not advance JWs understanding past 7th King [national] realms of power, such as identifying fully the very real globalist tier of greater global-authority that will define the final 8th King, and its King North, 8th King, King Fierce in Countenance TOTALITY as world government. Thus Bethel is keeping JWs in the “7th King is the end all form of global power” DELUSION. Rather than TELL JWS, these globalists are in that “two horned wildbeast” to complete the 8th King GLOBAL GOVERNMENT goal, they will not take JWs past 1960 understanding. It is a retardation process, so JWs will not understand that world government has also been a process—and now its globalist players could be IDd fully.

Bethel also implies the UN “image” is also the final form of that “8th King” development. It is not. 8th King world government will include the UN “image”, but it will be true full bodied complete “scarlet wildbeast” global totality of world government BEYOND IT. The 8th King is a GLOBAL REIGNING RULERSHIP, not yet present into hat UN “image” alone. So Bethel is stalling the UN image understanding that can also advance to the awareness of full world government REQUIREMENT.

And IGNORING massive global research, is how Bethel keeps JWs mentally in 1960 as far as world power development. JWs have no idea GLOBALIZATION is what forms world government, and GLOBALISM is its main mantra of development. JWs are stuck in “nation-state” thinking and dated mindset and “old world order” paradigms.

Globalized Finance

For example, the Federal Reserve and London central banking nexus systems, remain unexposed as to its basic function for global wealth control, by massive debt compromise. Do we think the Federal Reserve coming into existence in 1913-1914 has no connection to 1914-1918 WW1 profiteering? Of course it does—thus the financial arm of world government development ALSO emerged in 1914. Unimportant? No, it is ignored by Bethel to cover for their globalist pals. The basic function of Federal Reserve fiat currency creation, to create debt in the fractional reserve banking model, to extend a US Dollar based “world reserve currency”, has now extended globally, administered by the World Bank, IFI, and IMF globalist complex into all the “central banks” of the whole nation-state economic and corporate complex.

Obviously in global research this is advancing to new levels of final functionality that a global crash will merely AID as would a final global war.

THUS the single most EXPLICIT AND LITERAL PROPHECY OF OUR TIMES is that in Daniel 11:42-43, because it is a global gold bullion and “desirable things” asset control prophecy CLEARLY involved with this global finance global-setup—a global debt positioning now described in volumes upon volumes by global economic and globalist forecasters!

Awake! magazine is ASLEEP! in regard to these fundamental basics of how fractional reserve lending works. How the central bank administered by that same Federal Reserve lead system of this key “world reserve currency” is the leading developer of this condition. And how everything else will follow that transition of the “old world order” finance system phased out, in severe but controlled manner, for the 8th King “new world order” finance system, WHOSE BASIS OF FUNCTION, is outlined literally, at Daniel 11:42-43, that progresses to Daniel 11:42-45 8th King/King North “palatial tents”, to MERGE into Daniel 12’s final fulfillment round.

Thus Bethel is IGNORING a plainly EASY TO SEE FOR ALL Daniel 11:42-43 prophecy, (explained more later), here:

(Daniel 11:42-43) And he will keep thrusting out his hand against the lands; and as regards the land of Egypt, she will not prove to be an escapee. 43 And he will actually rule over the hidden treasures of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt.

The other significance is “Egypt” is the King South original domain of that whole Daniel 11 progression of these tow kings. Thus in the above, King South is being deposed, by loss of wealth control; and wealth control is sovereign control, thus loss of real wealth power, is loss of sovereignty. Now we plainly know national sovereign deposition is a major theme of globalism research. Uni-polar “Globalism” is the convergence of multi-polar “nationalism”, in which process nationalism is deposed as a power system of pinnacle global authority, now “globalized” into world government.

Thus we are seeing in Daniel 11:42-43, the deposition of the nation-state 7th King “King South” predominated “land of Egypt”, the whole world in effect, into pinnacle King North global gold rulership, hence the very basis of the main global symbol of all global wealth “denomination” as the basis of all monetary functions. But further, “all the desirable things” of Egypt are also taken by GLOBALIST King North, also at global scale of the sovereign power that will give them, in full.

Now we do not need to be rocket scientists to know how enormous national debts will aid this process for King North wealth control at global scale to come over this final cycle, and why its control forms FIRST in this final process of true world government. Now that global-debt and dependency complex is setting up the global Daniel 11:42-43 development, at global scale NOW, to eventually finalize that wealth, finance and gold control process fully in the future. Thus the basic function of global central banking could now be connected to the REAL portion of Daniel 11 and Daniel 11:42-43 that MUST YET FULFILL fully.

Daniel 11:42-43 Explicit in Coming 8th King Globalized Wealth Control
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-1142-43-explicit-in-coming-8th-king-globalized-wealth-control/
And as we see in Daniel 11:42-45, the wealth element of Daniel 11:42-43 is couped first by King North. OBVIOUSLY as well, “King North” is globalist world power that since even the Federal Reserve and WW1, has been consolidating wealth and power by use of world war and military profiteering in cycles, and regularly. Now we know the global conditions of Revelation 13:15-18 are directly related to the global wealth coup of Daniel 11:42-43.

This:

(Revelation 13:15-18) And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast. 16 And it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name. 18 Here is where wisdom comes in: Let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a man’s number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

(Revelation 13:16-18) And it puts under compulsion all persons (not just Christians, but everyone possible in the final “one hour” of 8th King scarlet wildbeast world government authority; Rev17:12), the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell (Dan11:42-43; financial and economic global dependency aids 666 incentive and extortion) except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name. 18 Here is where wisdom comes in: Let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a man’s number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
Is enabled by this:

(Daniel 11:42-43) And he will keep thrusting out his hand against the lands; and as regards the land of Egypt, she will not prove to be an escapee. 43 And he will actually rule over the hidden treasures of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt.

(Daniel 11:42-43) And he (8th King/King North) will keep thrusting out his hand against the (national) lands; and as regards the land of Egypt (collective national powers; King South “capital”), she (feminized King South) will not prove to be an escapee. (captured by globalist power intrigues of first a financial nature:) 43 And he (King North/8th King) will actually rule over the hidden treasures (globally) of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt. (Thus 8th King/King North rules the world wealth, wealth system and all “desirable things” of collective global national “Egypt” “King South” powers in full globalist progressive ownership);

They are obviously wealth and finance control related finales.

Globalized Military

The 1990 Gulf War was a first actual NATO globalist-military operation in certain elements in active military operations in that first Iraq invasion; it opened the door to “Global NATO” (1999), and the Global War on Terror (2001) to expand and continue the global positioning of Daniel 11:40, a continuum also marked in 1990 with that 3rd UN presentation as it emerged in the same period. It is no coincidence, it is all related.

This is unique, for NATO is a [globalized] military nexus with a stated goal of global military monopoly that will align with 8th King world government in time—its goal is the military element of world government. It is now truly global in scope, supra-national in authority, and international in scope of members, and it tentacles out to other regional military coalitions like the Gulf Cooperation Council and the Mediterranean Dialogue and others.

Thus Joel 3:9-12 and Daniel 11:40 are all maturing to completion with the NATO nucleus.

This is a globalist military positioning fully enabled as NATO went actually military in 1990:

(Daniel 11:40) “And in the time of [the] end the king of the south (the nation-state global power system) will engage with him in a pushing, and against him the (globalizing power system) king of the north will storm with chariots and with horsemen and with many ships; and he will certainly enter into the (national) lands (worldwide) and flood over and pass through. (King North military and financial system expansion concurrently maturing since 1990 aiding the Daniel 11:42-43 culmination to start the final cycle and proceed for some years);

NATO going global empowers this process to the full:

(Joel 3:9-12) “Proclaim this, you people, among the nations, ‘Sanctify war! Arouse the powerful men! Let them draw near! Let them come up, all the men of war! 10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning shears into lances. As for the weak one, let him say: “I am a powerful man.” 11 Lend your aid and come, all you nations round about, and collect yourselves together.’” To that place, O Jehovah, bring your powerful ones down. 12 “Let the nations be aroused and come up to the low plain of Jehoshaphat; for there I shall sit in order to judge all the nations round about.

(Joel 3:9-12) “Proclaim this, you people, among the nations, ‘Sanctify war! Arouse the powerful men! Let them draw near! Let them come up, all the men of war! (global. Rev19:19-21, Eze38) 10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning shears into lances. (developing military “god of fortresses” power is expensive and drains national sustenance) As for the weak one, let him say: “I am a powerful man.” (aids the global delusion) 11 Lend your (gold and silver and desirable things) aid and come, all you nations round about, and collect yourselves together.’” (into an 8th King global unification of rival rulership. Rev16:13-16) To that place (Rev16:13-16), O Jehovah, bring your powerful ones down. (Christ and the angelic “armies in heaven”. Rev19:11-21) 12 “Let the nations be aroused and come up to the low plain of Jehoshaphat (Har-Magedon); for there I shall sit in order to judge all the nations round about. (Zeph3:8, Ps2);

Now incidentally, in 1990 when this globalist military invasion becomes notable with that 1990 3rd UN presentation…:

(Daniel 11:40-41) “And in the time of [the] end the king of the south will engage with him in a pushing, and against him the king of the north will storm with chariots and with horsemen and with many ships; and he will certainly enter into the lands and flood over and pass through. 41 He will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration, and there will be many [lands] that will be made to stumble. But these are the ones that will escape out of his hand, Edom and Moab and the main part of the sons of Ammon. 

…that “invasion”, “He will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration”, INCLUDES the infiltration of Bethel as the HQ of the anointed Christian ministry, now overrun as well in this post 1990 process fully, by the Bethel system compromise, as well in that same King North “push”:

(Daniel 11:41) He (8th King) will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration (infiltrates the Bethel ministry internally), and there will be many [people] that will be made to stumble. (Matt24:15; Luke21:20 signal development present now at Bethel; Stumbling people is also the lawless Bethel subversion goal. Parallels Daniel 8:11-13 and Daniel 11:30-35 events and meaning);

Thus King North is INSIDE of Bethel, and they are who are overrunning the anointed Christian ministry, to now full coup:

(Daniel 11:32) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant (at Bethel), he (8th King/King North) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. (The Bethel “smooth words” 8th King cover-up in the JW publications is part of the smoothly justified apostasy);

And THAT emerged in the Daniel 11:29-31 3rd UN presentation, post Cold War (Dan11:29) developments of 1990, when Bethel also went UN NGO in 1991, AS A CONCURRENT PART OF THIS PROCESS:

(Daniel 11:30-31) “And he will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. 31 And there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature].

(Daniel 11:30-31) “And he (8th King/King North) will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively (produces a successful operation Dan8:12b); and he (8th King) will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. (anointed core defection at Bethel aids internal 8th King access) 31 (Bethel subversion:) And there will be arms that will stand up (at Bethel; Dan11:41; Luke21:20), proceeding from him (8th King planners);  and they (collusion) will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature]. (3rd UN placement 1990:) “And they (team effort) will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation. (3rd UN placement, 1990; UN NGO, 1991, at Bethel; Matt24:15; Dan8:13 “transgression causing desolation”);

Thus the Bethel apostasy, aided by King North infiltration, also emerges in the time of this 3rd United Nations presentation—marked in the same prophecy—it is no random coincidence what manifested from Bethel at that time, to today’s total JW subversion.
World Government

Thus globalization is the main global “gathering” force here, that Bethel also will not plainly inform all of:

(Revelation 16:12-16) And the sixth one poured out his bowl upon the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, that the way might be prepared for the kings from the rising of the sun. 13 And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. 15 “Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one that stays awake and keeps his outer garments, that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness.” 16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.

(Revelation 16:12-16) And the sixth one poured out his bowl upon the great river Euphrates (Parallels 6th trumpet), and its water was dried up, that the way might be prepared for the kings from the rising of the sun. (Babylon the Great being set-up for Revelation 17:15-17 parallel events by removal of human defenses (Rev17:15)) 13 And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. (complete 8th King globalist influence culminating) 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth (culminating in this final period), to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. (parallels Revelation 17:12-18 and Daniel 11:42-43 culminations into globalist 8th King power; Globalization is now the main global force of this “gathering”, and its globalism concept itself is an “inspired expression” of demons) 15 “Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one that stays awake and keeps his outer garments, that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness.” 16 And they gathered them (Globalization completes, “gathered”; by Dan11:42-43 and Rev17:11-17 8th King wealth and power consolidations culminating) together (into final 8th King globalist unification symbolized in completion by 4th UN “placement” and proclamations as WORLD GOVERNMENT; (1Thess5:1-3)) to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon. (Joel 3:9-17 “place”);

I included Revelation 16:12 to show Babylon the Great is being set up in this final cycle process culmination that is also present below. But this is also the climax period when all global sovereignty is transferred fully to the 8th King totality:
(Revelation 17:11-18) and it goes off into destruction. 12 “And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast. 13 These have one thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. 14 These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].” 15 And he says to me: “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues. 16 And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

(Revelation 17:11-18) And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also itself an (globalist) eighth [king], but springs from the seven (national power progression culmination), and it goes off into destruction. (Dan7:26, 8:25, 11:45; Rev19:20) 12 “And the ten horns that you saw mean ten (national) kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority (in world government conglomeration. Rev16:13-16) as kings one hour (limited period of full global authority of WORLD GOVERNMENT) with the (globalist “scarlet”) wild beast. (world government totality) 13 These have one thought (sovereign expansion and or preservation), and so they give their (national based sovereign) power and authority to the (globalist apex forming super-sovereign) wild beast. (as world government completion) 14 These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].” (all 144000 complete Messianic Kingdom. Rev14:1) 15 And he says to me: (Babylon the Great goes down in this “one hour” sequence) “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues. 16 And the ten horns (national powers) that you saw, and the wild beast (globalist power), these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. (deposing religious sovereignty globally and absorbing assets) 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their (national based) kingdom to the (globalist ascendant) wild beast (as world government completion), until the words of God will have been accomplished. 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.” (the target religious sovereignty; Rev16:19, Rev11 final fulfillment “great city”. This is how we know “Babylon the Great’s” destruction does not start the judgment (1Pet4:17), it is deep in the final cycle near its end.);

Thus the whole financial and military global coup, allows world government to be made globally official.

Accordingly the main point is, all that finance and military set-up is what culminates in global-sovereign “gathering” convergence. It is not just secular research of actual history taking place as it takes place being explained by various human thinkers, IT IS ALSO a prophecy becoming history, right under our noses, because prophecy outlines THE BASIC DRIVING PRINCIPLES of how a “new world order” is to form: it monopolizes the whole planet, by monopolizing the governments by wealth monopolization and or military domination working together, which “symphony” of power development and wealth and power consistent consolidation is ENCAPSULATED IN WORLD WAR.

And that is why in WW1, ALL of these principle devices also are present, such as the birth of the Federal Reserve, in the same time frame of WW1. WW1 required the industrial and governmental funding mechanics to have a main driving monopoly in Anglo-American investment and finance, to capitalize the entire world war effort, from (1) preparation, to (2) weapons application and physical infrastructural destruction, to (3) required reparations. In that intensive super-cycle (the world war model), the fiat currency monetary symbol, from that Anglo-American dominated central bank cabal (driving the rest) based monetization system, is what wealth is capitalized upon, it is what drives the entire mechanics of accumulating hard wealth, with paper digits, WORTHLESS PAPER, PURELY EMPOWERED BY PEOPLE’ S [BELIEF] IN THAT WEALTH SYMBOL.

For paper dollars are just a symbol, of the wealth the globalist system accumulates under corporate ownership, even governments are [purchased” with currency as debt, bonded, securitized, collateralized in a nations wealth, through also their own governments, at which time the interest on these debts ENSURES consistent default, will deliver the collateralized wealth, to the bankers. All they “risked” was mere worthless paper, not even backed by gold any longer, for in reality it is backed by debt, especially the hard wealth securitized as collateral top cover those debts (in the interest). In financial collapse as well, the bankers are risking a little paper and ink (3% of money volume), and totally worthless digital digits as most debt is monetized in computers, so they can “forgive debt”, for in reality it is NOTHING to them, but an accepted believed in symbol. But they do not “forgive debt” for nothing, the collateral, in time EVERYTHING, ends up in their full ownership authority, just like a foreclosed home, but this “house” is the national government and its whole dependent economic system.

And that is why the main global coup component is the monetary control which merely facilitated the legal ownership of the real, hard, wealth, in time the whole nation, in time all the nations, hence the whole world.

Now of course, the more one is researching in alternative sources, for the main stream SAYS VERY VERY LITTLE ABOUT ALL THIS, [[NEVER]] CONNECTING THE DOTS, then the more one is getting these “pieces” of this final “puzzle”, that many are not seeing, including isolated JWs. And this is for a reason, without seeing these pieces, then we are not able to advance in the principles in how those pieces fit, principles God has in these prophecies, such as the wealth control of Daniel 11:42-43 as the first driver of it all. But the Bible also IDs the military and governmental sovereign consolidation process as well, AND its end purpose: to finally create and IMPLEMENT GLOBALLY the FINAL defiant demon/human world rulership SYSTEM, that “New World Order” of the 8th King=King North=King Fierce in Countenance GLOBAL. Many see the machinations and mechanics of the “new world order”, many see its “image”, for IT IS CONNECTED to prophecy BUT NOW DUE TO BETHEL SILENCE it is NO LONGER being connected, live and real-time, to prophecy as it should.

The thing about Rutherford is HE EXPLAINED PROPHECY BECOMING HISTORY WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING! And Fred Franz continued the theme and “reporting LIVE” on the world scene, the world developments we need to be connecting, LIVE AND REAL-TIME, to the prophecy principles and the final objective it is developing DAY OVER DAY, YEAR OVER YEAR, as one thing does and will lead to another. It is an ACTIVE PROCESS, it is NOT “the end”, and thus for Bethel to be off on “exit 666” FULLY STALLED (dead and real-time), on a road leading to “exit 1000”, the 1000 Year Reign of Christ, in a process with evidence of continuation now in global volumes of events and research, is negligent, it is apostate, it is failure as ministers.

Since even that 3rd UN presentation, Bethel has been bypassing great globalization indicating events, and basic principles of function, such as in the international central banking system, and Global NATO, for over 20 solid years. Thus JWs are well used to now, this exit 666 picnic. It is a stall, it is a derailment, it is off course, it is ignoring developments that indicate the final cycle of world development and that same mirroring final cycle of prophecy. This is no innocent affair, this is full blown apostate UN NGO treason, and the reason for it is to obscure world government development that MUST COMPLETE, not simply devolve into that Bethel fantasy premature “its the end brothers!” “forget all else, it is the end!!!”. It is pure bull.

AND IT IS ALSO FORETOLD. SO FAR BE IT FROM THESE APOSTATE FRAUDS AT BETHEL, TO ALSO COME OUT AND EXPLAIN “WE ARE THAT FINAL APOSTASY FOLKS!” “IT IS US WHO ARE THE MODERN DAY “LAWLESS ONE”!”

Of course the whole diversion is due to this “man of lawlessness” “set in opposition” as the co-development that proceeds successfully with all this covered up globalist activity indicating the “old world order” of nation-state sovereign independence is also ending.

What we are seeing, in terms of the geo-political research of the world itself, is the end of the “old world order”. The national system, the nation-state model, the multi-polar world power fragmentation is the “order” that is being set up to lose its wealth sovereignty and military sovereignty in this process we are PLAINLY seeing maturing for a finale CYCLE, a final phase to bring in the “NEW world order”, a uni-polar world authority. And that is what Revelation 17:11-18 is, and THAT process final is not complete. But it will complete, and the point is we could be FULLY explaining it.

Of course fully explaining it, means fully explaining the projection is getting clearer, this is no “slam dunk”, this requires a final great global stressing cycle, to form the stressing-to-recovery conditions, in which recovery world government will be the “solution” to the final big global “problem”. As God is actually being loving in stretching this all out with greater understanding backed by the world’s own “signs” and research, we are now getting an approximate gauging, to be fully aided by prophecy fulfilling with great global milestones, to Christ’s arrival, by these final steps to complete the final step into 8th King world government.

In this way “the end” is being forewarned in unique manner, live and real-time. But it is no warning if JWs will not connect these global revelations to the prophecy. And thus the explanation forming of a drawn out “end” cycle, contradicts the convenient little delusion at Bethel for their instant “end” scenario. They will not explain how this research is forecasting a final cycle, because they need that premature end delusion for the concealment of other events to come on Bethel in this same process. The current Bethel arrangement of prophecy, supports another objective opposed to the truth and the truthful ministry now subverted, but setup for worse than just subversion.

So in the prophecy, the apostasy leads to a desolation of the ministry for transgressions that also co-develop with this apostasy, such as remaining mum to more important modern globalization explaining developments marking modern prophecy continuing. Thus in the selfsame prophecy they will not explain, for obvious reasons now, is the temple judgment which can now be sold to JWs as the premature expected end.

And in that massive event on the JW organization, the Bethel “a system of things” (Matt13:36-42), that “city” to be destroyed to some degree in the Matthew 22:7 marriage feast call (Isa66:6), is exposed as apostate in the judgment process, TO FORM A GLOBAL SIGNAL, that we are at the final cycle, not “the end”, but of that apostate signal obstacle, whose removal is to be misrepresented to Jehovah’s witnesses and their global audience as long as possible.

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[1]

Daniel Prophecy and 8th King Globalists
Daniel 11:36-41 and Daniel 8:23-25 8th King Globalist Details and the Bethel Apostasy Co-Development
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-prophecy-and-8th-king-globalists/

Daniel 11:42-43 Explicit in Coming 8th King Globalized Wealth Control
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-1142-43-explicit-in-coming-8th-king-globalized-wealth-control/

[2]

Bethel Trick: Conceal Truth with Truth
https://jwupdate.wordpress.com/2015/03/13/bethel-trick-conceal-truth-with-truth/

[3]

Revelation 13 Replication and World Government
https://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/revelation-13-replication-and-world-government/

https://templelijah.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/revelation_13_replication_and_world_government.pdf

Future Global War “Sword-Stroke” to Define UN Peace Keeping “Abyss” Impotence— Sets the Global Stage for the “Healing” “Ascension” of Full 8th King World Government

https://templelijah.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/future-global-war-sword-stroke-to-define-un-peace-keeping-abyss-impotence/

[4]

Repeating Cycles: The Whole Prophecy Repeats Starting With The Temple Judgment Portion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/prophecy-repeats/what-we-know-now-the-whole-prophecy-repeats-starting-with-the-temple-judgment/

[5]

Daniel 8 and 11 Final Apostasy and 3rd UN Placement (1990) Connections and Parallels
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/daniel-12/daniel-8-and-11-final-apostasy-and-3rd-un-placement-1990-connections-and-parallels/

[6]

Revelation 14 – 144000 and Messianic Kingdom Completion
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/144000-completion/revelation-14-messianic-kingdom-completion-and-world-judgment-sheep-sweep-in-the-8th-king-world-government-final-one-hour/

Bethel’s Main 1990 Diversion 

Temple Judgment Background – Governing Body Covers Up “King of the North” Actual 8th King Meaning
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/temple-judgment-significance/temple-judgment-background-governing-body-covers-up-king-of-the-north-actual-8th-king-meaning/

USSR Fails, Also Fails as King North, as UN Third Placement of 1990 Assumes King North Identity as 8th King!
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/more-man-of-lawlessness/extra-extra-read-all-about-it-ussr-fails-also-fails-as-king-north-as-un-third-placement-of-1990-assumes-king-north-identity-as-8th-king/

WW1 UNique and “Tribulation” Principle

WW1 Unique

hi jehovah’s witnesses…….. are you sure the great tribulation already happened in 1914-1919?
as you know, jesus warned about men coming along close to the end, and claiming he is already here……… matt 24;24….. 2 thess 2;2

WW1 was indeed a unique escalation of finance and industrial based war at global scales of globalist required planning.

That globalist world government also arose as the League of Nations as a Messianic Kingdom announcement deployed INTO that World War ALREADY in progress for 5 months is also beyond coincidence.

That the globalist Federal Reserve central banking system also was set up PERMANENTLY in late 1913, just in time to provide the basis of that WW1 massive globalist profit, is also very convenient. And the list goes on.

Like it or not the events commencing around 1914 have changed the course of man, set into motion globalizing cycles, and will be seen now and in retrospect as the point marking the end of Adamic mankind in it’s own history.

What WW1 has and will lead to will in time REQUIRE a final divine intervention, and THAT is what will befall all mankind and THAT is what people allow themselves to be distracted by, by things that are minutia to try to put off the inevitable final world judgment that JWs ALONE have been the stalwart messengers of the warning of.

God is true, Christ is true, God’s Word is true, it is man, like today’s Bethel, who corrupts the truth, yet all things written MUST take place and ALL of it will come true. So sinners casting stones at lawless Bethel, we will all in our own time also face judgment, the actual world situation has no changed, assigning blame does not change it, but at least we know why lawless Bethel tried to create doubt in it’s own hypocrisy, of the original 1914 warning that did arise in a unique period in human history of globalized warfare like no other time before it.,

Many things, not just JWs, mark 1914 as a unique period in world development starting. A final world war escalation, already called the “world war” “on terror” will affirm what world war actually is. The tribulation “womb” through which world government is born, the chaos from which the new world order comes forth, the “problem” which the globalist world government is the “solution”.

That is why world war is unique it ALWAYS has led to UN world government renditions in 1919, 1945 and 1990, and WILL have a final cycle upon it’s first pattern of 1914-1919, but to develop to FULL 8th King world government.