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From The Ark to World Government Infiltration is a Common Theme of History

World Government Background Development

Infiltration is a Common Theme of History

If we read Genesis 6 with a little imagination it is an angelic “infiltration” of the human race as a basic plot of that sequence leading to the flood. The Genesis 3 “seed of the serpent” gets so powerful in mankind only 8 people are saved. “Sons of the true God” are marrying “good looking” human women “whom they choose” to bear demonic hybrids. (1Pet3:19-20; 2Pet2:4-5; Jude6);

Violence is intensified (Gen6:13), God decrees the end, the flood comes. (Read Gen6-7)

The infiltration theme continues as the Israelites fight the battle spiritually with demons attempting to break their “exclusive devotion” to God in whom they are in covenant. A couple notable judgment arrive upon the idolatrous Israel and Jerusalem over time respectively. (Read Isaiah 1-12 and Ezekiel 1-10)

By the time of Christ, John the Baptist and Christ both ID the “seed of the serpent” point blank. John calls them the “offspring of vipers”, Jesus calls them the children of Satan. (John8:44)

Given the context of their whole hearted acceptance of the Word of God from the prophets up to Christ, they do not imagine Genesis to be true, they live and breath it as truth. Thus they were not joking around or using figures of speech when they IDd the seed of Satan right in the Israelite leadership of their day.

Now if one would imagine a Christian reformation with divine validity did actually come forth in the 1800-1900 period from a Christendom millennium and a half of well documented demonism in the Catholic church, transmitted to the rest of the former “Reformation” church teachings and practices, also signalling Satanic infiltration from that undisputed master of disguise, then targeting that movement would be the ONLY target left for him to regain control of.

And since Rutherford did expose the first globalist world government foundation as the League of Nations, and carried the momentum strong enough by divine aid to allow Knorr to expose the second globalist world government evolution in the UN, we KNOW they are not “Illuminati” or any other occultic agents, because Satan is not going to expose his own Kingdom in prophecy en-route to Armageddon.

And neither is his seed in humans amongst the latest generation of that infiltration likewise going to connect their own world government works to prophecy foretelling their annihilation.

Thus for the 3rd UN placement to go by uncommented by Bethel in 1990, joined as UN NGO wildbeast co-promoters, covered up King North as 8th King for USSR fiction, profaned with all manner of “smooth word” scandal and sin right in the ministry (Dan11:32a), according to the plot since Genesis 3, Bethel would be an obvious infiltration.

That Bethel’s talking heads do not look like the “seed of Satan” is how they look the part. None of the former developments of Satanic infiltration have plainly observable appearances after the flood. In fact they present the exact opposite in claims and appearances without exception, 24/7.

It appears the theme of infiltration is common in about every conspiracy theory out there, so the Bethel development is just fitting a formula also present in the US government, the FBI, the religions and academic institutions as being compromised to aid overall ignorance and to facilitate regulatory development empowering globally predatory financial practices.

Given the candid nature of the Bible and the no holds barred Satanic agenda described therein, at some point the Bethel and global condition seem to be primed to erupt at the same time to further ensure JWs never get back on track of truth, the whole thing also appears to be infiltrated with plain ignorance and false trust in men and human institution.

I will bet the global development in the making that many world forecasters and researchers see brewing in a financial catastrophe like no other in history, is the same storm Bethel will blow down into.

It is not the first time the public in general, and God’s people in particular, have ignored the signals leading to disaster. That too fits the pattern well.


Financial Virtual Reality
Yes, it’s very possible the governing body has joined forces with satan in order to get through the financial shit storm that may happen.

Now the financial system is so enormous, so interlinked and 2/3 dependent on USDollar and US stability, that crash can be understood to be in a digital realm capable of being as fictionally controlled as is the currency itself. Over 95% of all US “currency” is purely digital. Since 2009 or so the major stock markets are now centralized more and more in the ICE system.

Now what was possible in even decentralized form, is nicely centralized in another purely digital complex of “reality” in the investment global digital complex. Now all investment, stocks, bonds, currency and other trade is? Digital.

Now all investment trade is purely super-symbolic, purely virtual, and so is the entire networked “world” in which it operates. Now digital corporations and a digital super-corporatism is not merely fantasy, but reality, yet controllable fiction, virtual reality. Now the whole thing, at global scale, is mostly virtual reality and digital.

And we are to trust the men administering that system, that even national government leaders, FBI and SEC are POWERLESS to investigate and supervise are all playing by the rules that they invented and adjusted as needed anyways? We are to trust it is even real conditions and not of potential engineered chaos artificially intellectually aided by massive and advanced computer systems?

No, we know what they are: Amoral greedy globalist megalomaniacs. It did not just all come together like this accidentally.

So now they have the complete global “play”, in totally mostly virtual form, with every market – gold, oil, commodity and currency variables controllable from the dollar knobs or right in the digital system itself. Now from the last 50 years of gold disconnected currency expansion, credit and debt games also expanding globally, they have amassed over 50% global wealth total control, plus minus, with another 25% teetering towards their basket.

Now the WHOLE final cycle set of financial developments can be absolutely controlled to engineer the exact kinds of economic chaos desired, and to guide it down in controlled implosion to the proper degree. They do not want 100% world pandemonium, they want 25%. They want to crash it enough as a global “problem” so they can then revive it reliably as the 8th King world government “solution”.

And by that time:

1. They will have even more hard wealth, capital and asset control to actually have more than is needed for world recovery.

2. And they will have already invented the globalized super-monetary and final leg financial system in totally global format superceding the current nation-state system, as truly “states” of a world government “nation”.

3. As the icing on the cake the quadrillion in religiously controlled assets, everything religiously controlled, owned or influenced, can be also transfused into the recovery to further boost the world recovery, to fully push the true potential of that last stage stellar blast of the 8th King to world king status and then some.

Then they will have not “the end” JWs and others are expecting, but instead a world recovery like no other in human history. To those they cannot put a gun to the head of to accept their 666, they can bribe with wealth and resources never amassed in such quantity for this exact purpose.

Now the opposite will be true. Instead they can GIVE, they can “pay” people in fact to accept world government. They can present it to the people as a true world “peace and security”, and it will look real, because it will be real. Now the hell people thought the final cycle would end into, was only the middle of the final cycle. Now the “problem” global “hell” will be passed and will turn into the 8th King “paradise” “solution” for anyone willing to take the 666. Now the 666 will look attractive and real. Now the despair as usual will turn to real hope, now the problem will resolve for the real 8th King solution.

That is the twist of the final cycle. The UN will achieve world government, world peace, and world recovery.

And at that hopeful looking time (Dan8:25), is when Christ is going to drop in, when it is all done.

More on the Governing Body Myth

Yes, it appears Rutherford was correct that ALL religion is a snare and a racket. Once it gets “organized” it naturally devolves into a predatory money making system, such as Bethel and their UN NGO wildbeast riding escort service.

So there really is no true and false religion, there is observing the FAITH of Jesus Christ (Rev14:12) or not, trying or not, and it is not a human being who can even determine his own status, much less that of others. Undeserved kindness would be the ONLY guarantee, and that would require the faith of Jesus towards God and him, and in his actuality as the truth.

Now Bethel is just another Christendom organized racket, hidden under an anointed Christian veneer. But beneath it is the very same thing the organized churches are, hierarchy, infallibility, inquisition, organizational idolatry, idolatry of traditions, confession, excommunication. It is all there in the JW “religion” competing with undeserved kindness as the org and it’s Sanhedrin are now the intermediaries of the faith, and all that in just 40 short years of the collective Pope Governing Body tenure.

Now JWs have faith in other things, imperfect human and manmade. The GB itslf is pure fiction, now a lie, the base core guidance center is essentially falsehood. How can anything with a lie as it’s basis prosper spiritually. They think God can’t tell there is no such thing as a dictatorship known as the “governing body” in the Bible? If so it was the Sanhedrin, not an emergency one-time council to referee the circumcision issue.

They DEBURDENED the system:

(Acts 15:19-20) Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God, 20 but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood.

(Acts 15:28-29) For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!”

Instead Bethel turns more people AWAY from God then there are even total Jehovah’s witnesses, it is a statistic verified by Bethel’s own numbers. It could be worse. There measly 1-3% “growth” rate could indeed even be negative 1-3% and no one could tell.

And the BURDEN anyone who buys them as a “divine council” in their own Apostolic succession (WT 7/15/13), the system is just a modified papal administration, under a veneer of the past JW faith of pre 1950.

How are they in any way related to that council? JAMES made the final call, not a “governing body” the whole place including the congregation was involved in the ensuing developments. Apostles were apostles, older men were older men, all were in the congregation, there simply is no “governing body” to be retrofitted to a corporate “board of directors” later, for that is all the GB is, a secular, human invented council. It is not divine, it is not Biblical, and it’s only prophecy it fulfills is apostasy and lawlessness.

So I say all this because most of it is plain as day, it is logical. The Bethel leaders are anti-christ in what is really operating in that religion. And having claimed to see, but be blind, it’s hypocrisy tops everything since the Sanhedrin. And if it had has the truth it claims it does, the truth is God does bring calamity on purposeful hypocrites, so that truth should become evident as a test of truth and justice. Bethel too will have to in time reap what it has sown. Just as Jeremiah and Paul warned Jerusalem in their respective days.

Now that, according to public record, like organized Christendom endorsing the League and UN themselves and Bethel doing their UN NGO version at UN 1990 of the same milestone of endorsing the rival “8th King” to be, ALL organized Christian claimant religion is basically on the fence, preaching the ka-ching ka-chingdom of God, but endorsing the “new world order”, just in case.

A person is better off just staying at home and reading the Bible and hopefully keeping faith God and Jesus Christ as a goal, the whole thing is lost now as far as organized religion’s predominant Christian institutions. This is in my opinion based on the basic rules in the Bible I thought “Christianity” was supposed to uphold. I KNOW Jesus Christ did uphold the principles of the faith in God’s sovereign right he died proving.

I left the JW organization…

I left the JW organization…

In a way you may consider yourself blessed, and this is coming from one who considers himself a Jehovah’s witness. I know where the apostasy actually resides, and that is at Bethel. (2Pet2:1-3; 2Thess2:3-4; Dan11:32a timing; 1990 UN NGO culmination). So you are given access to Matt24:15 by other means.

I consider my self still God’s witnesses, for if I went in before a JC and calmly explained the implications and ramifications to and from God of Bethel and by extension the JW “nation” joining the rival UN world government formative system (which will complete from 3rd UN placement; 1990 (Dan11:31b) to 4th/final UN placement (Dan11:45)) of course things would get anxious on the elder end.

If I spoke up on the co-promotions of that 3rd UN placement as covert UN NGO (rather than Bethel explaining and exposing it’s 3rd UN placement meaning in 1991) from Awake! 9/8/1991 for ten years as we JWs peddled UN world proclamations, books, holy year notifications and elitist personalities, things would tense up further.

If I asked why was the UN NGO dedication all secretive then, and still covert now, as an official Bethel statement never has been made, and even a perceived transgression (Dan8:13) of this proportion surely merits a “confession” in an official form to all JWs explaining the UN NGO affair, and justifying the use of JWs in door to door work spreading UN information to one of the largest magazine distributions in the world, and one of te biggest UN promotions there by of all time – things would get outright reactionary and heated in the JC, I assume.

And that is because if Bethel cannot and will not answer these questions that God and Christ might very well themselves ask, and will in time ask and account, then of course the elders are also not at liberty to even think for themselves much less give more than the rumored response of the “need to read books at the UN library” that floats around the web, the only place to even find a fragment of an “explanation” from Bethel, and it is all alleged for Bethel owns up to none of it’s sins.

Now please, how is a Governing “Body” “faithful and discreet slave” now even self-placed and self-judged as superior to the apostles in the “body of the Christ” going to actually internally justify all this reality? No one is simply this stupid, it must be purposeful, and the treachery of still deceiving JWs on a matter of Bethel infidelity that equates to treason against loyalty to God and Christ is of course plain and simple E V I L.

So I would of course be subject to the Bethel inquisition stake at this point, and I would be roped in and it would be set ablaze before sundown. In what way are these men, from top down, God’s witnesses? They will not even answer God’s own inquiries naturally raised from scripture when men in leadership follow a course of heavy sins for at least twenty solid years. (Zech3:1-3).

These men would disfellowship Christ if he appeared before their judicial committee. These men would banish Isaiah and Micah, Jeremiah and Hosea and every apostle and John the Baptist if they also gave JC testimony. In fact EVERY faithful witness of God in the Bible is already disassociated from “the lie” (Thess2:11-12) that is now plainly the whole Bethel system. The only one acceptable in a judicial committee hearing is Judas Iscariot, and that is because his children are at Bethel and his grand children are the elder body of today, who will NOT confront Bethel’s sins like men, much less like the Christians they claim to be.

And that is why they make the sheep who fall ill, walk for miles and jump through every hoop, swim every creek and river, ascend every hill and mountain just to get back in the preaching work about God’s name and Christ’s sacrifice for human salvation. They do NOT actually believe in the “undeserved kindness” that Christ’s sacrifice makes the primary basis of God’s forgiveness and thus our relationship with God through tat sacrifice, NOT a new Bethel Mosaic Law, and Inquisition run by Bethel Popes and the WTS papacy. They are doing everything they can to keep JW penguins who fell of the chilly congregational iceberg, to stay at sea as long as possible, hopefully to Bethel and the JCs, forever. They are the ones who attempt to diminish even the polluted ministry any way they can, under a veneer of pretense and “policy manual” buzzwords that belie the claim of love and mercy.

Thus that “set in opposition” Bethel system cannot simply go on in an obvious apostasy forever, and the judgment is already foretold, and Bethel is not above a condemnation, and as per Matt24:15, one actually should consider fleeing a system now housing the “disgusting thing”, in fact many organizational idols too boot, because like Israel, JWs have now a judgment rather than a blessing coming (1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14) due to the misleading direction of it’s leaders from the top.

The Bethel system is in far greater magnitude of sin than the sheep. Bethel is in a far greater magnitude of sin tan even the world that is not claiming to be in a covenant wit God, and cannot bring the reproach at the level and directness of Bethel’s. (Zech3:1-3). Do not get caught in JWs organizational spider web, when that system begins to actually fall into global desolations. Things are not going to get better at Bethel and in the congregations, things are going to get worse, and it will intensify into a foretold limited ruination for these transgressions; (Dan8:13).

Anyone making these fact based statements would be dfd in a congregation or at Bethel, and that is how we know they are now the apostate system “set in opposition” to anything that is actually the truth, and to their own exposure as plainly self-condemned by their own judgments on others, but self-exaltation upon themselves. (2Thess:1-8). That JW judgment first (1Pet4:17), will be covered up for a while by Bethel as the lie “it is the attack on Babylon the Great”, and that can last a good two years in JW pandemonium and provide the final cover for the actual worldwide financial implosion of Bethel in the Daniel 11:42-43 parallel context of national finance intrigues, but at global scale.

Have faith in God, Christ and the undeserved kindness as the main actuality in Christ’s sacrifice by faith in that forgiveness and all earnest effort to observe the two commandments, and all the Bethel burdens of “deserved kindness” in personal and organizational “merit” in counted hours and years while in costume can be REJECTED as counterfeit, which it is, which they are.

Of course many JWs are not getting the serious picture of what is actually going on here. They are the ones you may try to reason with to “flee Jerusalem” prior to her judgment. Which is up to each individuals conscience and desire according to the gifts God give uniquely to each one.

(Luke 15:20) So he rose and went to his father. WHILE HE WAS YET A LONG WAY OFF, his father caught sight of him and was moved with pity, and he ran and fell upon his neck and tenderly kissed him.

That is when God actually applies the undeserved kindness, the very second we turn around, and are a “long way off”. As long as we keep repenting by freewill not forced fear by inquisition, God also forgives seven times seventy seven times. And each time we get stronger at maintaining resolve by faith in God’s mercy by undeserved kindness by merit of Jesus Christ, not ourselves. Christ is the one God points to, God is the one Christ points to, Bethel points to their ownselves.

Consider yourself blessed to be grilled by men who enjoy applying te torture more than sharing the mercy. Sad but true, that is what JWs have devolved into by leaders who are actually gross sinners.

Bethel Red Flags – The Moment of Awareness of Bethel’s Apostasy

Bethel Red Flags – The Moment of Awareness of Bethel’s Apostasy

1. UN alliances

I decided to add the second development that finally aided my own awareness of the Bethel atmosphere of organized transgression.

2. General perception of lack of holy spirit and a blase’ JW attitude to actual Bible research and study.

Elders didn’t like me hanging out in the library, witness parties never featured Biblical discussion, JWs seemed to treat ministerial positions and titles more like a business achievement, a noticeable attitude of complacency and self righteousness was displayed in NOT being able to simply discuss Bible teachings or WT teachings as these turned to seemingly defensive positions based on overall JW ignorance, not due to actual discussion but lack of actual understanding in JWs of basic WT doctrine.

Thus it appeared I was among robots, so free time studying seemed more useful than meetings featuring superficial scriptural therapy, ministerial depth development sufficient for remedial or absolute newbie discussion endlessly parroted, delusional back patting exercises based on merit of 1940s JWs, catalogue like detail to visual assessments, endless recordings of the same old scripts with no actual insight or enlightenment since 1960, basically a spiritual concentration camp starvation diet and a big zombie like show of past performance of other historic JWs prior to the UN GB implanted cell of corruptions.

Eventually the JW malaise, spiritual cancer and statistical plummet all has a GB inception point epicenter, further marked in trends by the UN NGO, as in retrospect, both mark a point in JW productive decline. In my opinion God was not happy with the GB celebrity council from incept (1976) since it is not in the Bible, thus a core lie in itself and reveals glory seekers more than Bile studiers. And I felt as a Christian in belief of God’s Kingdom, neither God or Christ was happy with the GB lackadaisical attitudes towards spiritually fornicating and treasonous UN alliances. (What actual anointed would bed with the UN to read books at the UN library? The whole things seemed but another lie, in a long line of lies since the GB self-invented it’s own Biblical existence.)

In hindsight it eventually became impossible to defend them while preaching when in time I saw they are in fact more likely “evil slave” and “man of lawlessness” principle workers of very basic Bible clues of corrupting influence contained in key symbolic descriptions, and what that leads to in time; disaster. In the meantime their fruitage speaks for itself as does the atmosphere they create. We JWs have allowed corrupted and evil men to now direct the ministry for almost 40 years, again, it will prove a disaster in time. So I could no longer share in serious sins of Bethel origination, purpose and continued promotion.

3. Other obviously damaging polices

And thus as I tried to defend the GB on the web, it soon became obvious they are their, and JWs, and the public at large, own worst enemy. No one can do more damage to Bethel and more reproach, than they have created in and of themselves and their own brazen conduct of spiritual megalomania and presumptuousness. The GB is the worst spiritual enemy in human form, that JWs have ever known up to this time. (2Thess2:1-4).

I will tell you now, the GB will equal a JW and ministerial disaster and will eventually be heaped into the dumpster of time, with other errors of the past that somehow were accepted as Christian formerly. (Zech3:1-5).

There is no such thing as a “Governing Body” in the Bible, plain and simple, and in that lie is their main curse. They get about 40 years, and no more; (Rev8:12).

On The Bethel Infiltration

On The Bethel Infiltration

I sent this as a PM because sometimes this subject gets a negative response at JWN when explained to clearly as prophecy, not just JW apostasy in general.

We must recall the UN NGO, besides it’s own serious nature, has stumbled millions of people. And other Governing Body promoted lawlessness has stumbled a few million more. And though JWs are as blind as Israel prior to it’s judgment, God has not been fooled by general JW back-patting spiritual bravado based on past Christian performance, not the present state of systemic and terminal lawlessness. So, we have a situation where JWs are not getting a divine blessing nor holy spirit (Mal2), and like a frog in cool water gradually heated up, JWs are now at a terminal level of lawlessness that has steadily plummeted the JW growth rate to 3% and sub 1% lows during the GB tenure, from pre-GB 10 and 15% highs. (The GB is a recent add-on from 1976 that is not actually Biblical, in the Bible or divinely authorized)

In other words, SOMETHING IS WRONG. (2Thess2:3; Zech3:1-3);

And that actual well known lawless spiritual behavior affects the congregation and the kind of people being appointed as not all spiritual men, but also mixed in predators and impostors are also in JWs now, because there is no spiritual protection any longer, and all these kinds of men have to do is act. The entire elder body in Bethel and the GB master pattern are actually no longer truly Christian, and they also cover up critical UN prophecy in Daniel 11:27-45. From the same period of UN 3rd placement of 1990 that Bethel instead became a UN NGO.

Again, to God and Christ, a UN covenant is serious business.
If you enjoy meetings as I did, then understand it is not 100% “on” any longer, and these men are in far more trouble with God as UN allies than any sheep they may hurt and insult. One in ten may have a little sensitivity, but everyday JWs drift farther into the waters of apostasy, and complacency prior to a judgment, just like Israel; (Dan11:32 as 2Thess2:1-4 modern signal);

I put up with it for a while, but after a prayerful consideration of Matthew 24:15:

(Matthew 24:15-16) “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation (UN NGO), as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.

I personally fled the UN NGO “disgusting thing” Bethel system. Because as Jesus warned in “discernment” of Daniel 8:13-14 (Bethel’s UN NGO “transgression causing desolation”), for the 1990 Daniel 11:31b Bethel 3rd UN placement co-promotions of the UN (Awake! 9/8/1991) from Bethel as UN NGO, instead of explaining the USSR cannot be King North (Dan11:36 required continual success), but the 8th King is King North and is continuous from the 3rd (Dan11:31) to the 4th and last stand of UN world government at Daniel 11:45.

That is why I could no longer teach people a lie door to door, such as that that is covering for UN prophecy in Daniel with USSR fiction [1], while Bethel is UN NGO instead in serious sin with no repentance. That is why you have no reason to fear the spiritual authority of elders who openly condone, ignore and share that UN sin with Bethel. A JW judgment is what is coming, not Bethel promoted Daniel 11:44, but Daniel 11:42-43 as the 8th King context for Daniel 8:13-14 specifically for the UN NGO as the “transgression causing desolation” to Bethel soon.

Well whether or not you are familiar, Bethel promotes Daniel 11:44 as next, with an unknown King North. That error makes JWs think the end sequence of Daniel 11:44-45 is next, when in fact a worldwide national bankruptcy cycle that everyone sees on the web news is going to lead to Daniel 11:42-43 next, and that takes some years to culminate. In that period of engineered tumult, Bethel will be desolated, and their Daniel 11 lies allows the desolation to be covered up with a portion of prophecy out of sync with 8th King UN developmental reality.

For these reasons the “love of the greater number” of JWs “will cool off  due to the increasing of” Bethel “lawlessness”, which must affect the congregations; (2Thess2:3-4; Zech3:1-3; Dan11:32b), which leads to the final cycle of JW temple judgment, not Armageddon yet.

What we actually have is the GB as the foretold modern “man of lawlessness”; Just be patient, strange days are coming on Bethel, and the enemy is within that system, but God and Christ will clean them out, and it is going to be in the JW temple judgment desolation.


Temple Judgment Background – Governing Body Covers Up “King of the North” Actual 8th King Meaning


USSR Fails, Also Fails as King North, as UN Third Placement of 1990 Assumes King North Identity as 8th King!


Final Temple Judgment and Jehovah’s Witnesses





Bethel Infiltration Has Greater Meaning

Bethel Infiltration Has Greater Meaning

Yes it makes sense because what is just signaling lawlessness again in the Kingdom ministry, typified by post first century Christendom “infiltration” for over 1000 years, and a re-corrupted “reformation” attempt, is now being made known because it is going to mean a judgment now on the last place a clarified Kingdom message completed, as IBSA and early JWs did expose also 2 UN manifestations as prophecy.

That is very important because like the 1914-1918 verification of the Daniel 12 preview, the League of Nations did make a rival world sovereignty statement that Christendom endorsed and still endorses WHILE the Messianic Kingdom foundation phase also made a sovereign proclamation. JWs held fast to the second UN placement of 1945, but after that time the 1990 UN “new world order” 3rd placement after the “cold war” was lost.

By that time GB overrun Bethel since 1976 instead joined the UN as UN NGO, like their Christendom UN endorsing sister harlot, and that marks a derailment of a JW ministry that was once tracking UN and Kingdom development parallels. Thus the Daniel 11:30-45 3rd (Daniel 11:31b) and 4th (Daniel 11:45) UN placements are now covered up by Bethel as King North identification as 8th King is masked by the impossible USSR now purposeful error.

As the USSR dissolved and Russia essentially “cold surrendered” to the UN elites to join them, Betel saw such a milestone as not significant. In fact they know it was significant but they are 8th King allies to the core, and cover this up as now all professed Christianity in organized for endorses the UN one way or another. Since Christ is not coming to join the UN 8th King but to conquer him, it is important to understand future events will attempt to get all te world to follow the UN in grand fashion.

So a JW ministry that has the basics, but dropped the UN exposure ball of prophetic commentary since 1945 by 1990 fully, is of course also an invalid ministry in it’s deepest cover up of actual Daniel 8 and 11 details.

So your understanding this personally means your ministry is valid and exposes this truth as the JW ministry even though having basic truths, is now compromised in UN cover up and is profaned in God’s sight.

But as reality is Christ is access to God and the Bible aids that faith, really an “organization”, just like the Jewish system of old, is only valid if it actually aids, not competes as an intermediary to God that ONLY Christ is PERSONALLY, PERSON TO PERSON, between a person having faith and desired obedience, in spite of sin and imperfection, to God Almighty.

That basic truth is obscured by Bethel, as they “establish their own righteousness”, gradually and cleverly inserting themselves as mediators above Christ, between JWs and God – of course a total delusion – in ANY event, Christ assess a person individually, but has used apostles and congregations to aid the process of faith support as long as it is true and valid.

But now Bethel is just another profaned (Zech3:1-3) invalid “aid” now, and really it is pointing to the FACT a completed Messianic Kingdom is the ONLY true “organization” infallible to come for sheep soon. So another Christian transition to a final “aid” to get to that Kingdom completion is what must replace the Bethel system however God does that it will be very clear as to the final 3rd and 4th UN placements as Daniel 11:42-45 is the last 8th King sovereign events to AGAIN (Rev10:11) lead to a Messianic Kingdom sovereign statement at the same time, as in 1914 WW1 to 1919 UN League of Nations, AGAIN on the Daniel 12 pattern in final form.

Daniel 8:13-14 REQUIRES from God a JW organizational judgment “trampling” desolation for the UN NGO signal “transgression causing desolation” as a divinely permitted coming 8th King desolation of the JW worldwide org as Daniel 11:42-43 activates in world financial compromise meaning leading to 8th King world wealth control.

That means you and I now, and many later, will \see this take place, but do not want to get caught in JW “Jerusalem” for that UN NGO judgment as Bethel aids 8th King JW capture and JW ministerial cessation for a profaned “constant feature”. It means Bethel lawlessness will not go unjudged, and the 8th King UN undercovers at Betgel KNOW this and want to use that period of Daniel 8:13 “evening” darkness to take advantage of that bewilderment to try to cease the JW ministry permanently, and this signal the start of the tribulatory cycle.

But God will instead recover and explain te final cycle to result from this temple purification to found the final CLEAN ministry of coming Messianic Kingdom completion. And since it is an 8th King activation of Daniel 11:42-45, the 8th King, like in WW1, will use overall global tribulation to found his own final drive amidst a world distraction again, away from Kingdom reality to try to cover up tat final warning of it all repeating to final form.

How God and Christ do this is yet to be seen, that they will do it is guaranteed, because once the UN completes it’s 4th placement as world government, the real end is coming for then a stated world sovereign rival actually in existing operation is what Christ is coming to conquer when that 8th King actually completes.

Hence God and Christ MUST empower a final warning, for this is the true end cycle leading to actual Armageddon war phase. Until that reality is the JW Christian message, JWs will continue to falter, and in the meantime us becoming aware of this already have a valid ministry that MUST turn into the final Revelation 10-11 “little scroll” and :two witnesses” FINAL Kingdom warning as God will clarify and recover approved JWs and all returning to a ministry tat MUST repudiate the current Bethel conditions that MUST be removed to carry out a final ministry in whatever form God purposes to be revealed as Bethel goes down.

We need patience – that whole judgment, desolation, purification, recovery, redeployment, final 1260 day final warning, and final 8th King attack some years later as Revelation 11:1-7 as a cleansed final “little scroll” final Kingdom warning ministry will take the Daniel 8:14 and Daniel 12:7 time periods to unfold. The Christian ministry is not over a JWs are deluded to believe, the final phase climax of it all will just be getting started with the Bethel desolation of Daniel 8:13-15 that will activate Revelation 8 in final fulfillment that MUST lead into that final Kingdom warning of Revelation final fulfillment recovery “abyss” of temple desolation and judgment opening and merging into Revelation 10-11 final “two witnesses” deployment of the Kingdom proclamation “little scroll” to Christ’s actual Messianic Kingdom completion and arrival as the final reality to conquer the 8th King globalized rival world government permanently.

So just keep accessing Christ DIRECTLY to God, study Bible and prophecy, pray, and rely on God, Christ and holy spiritual power to guide you and stay aware of this reality unfolding now. There is no way, like apostate Jerusalem of old, that Bethel is getting away with this brazen lawlessness and reproach and UN allegiance and prophetic subversion. Expect a JW judgment and do NOT get caught in tat organization when it implodes as per prophecy – it will be unmistakable and a great initial signal of more to follow.

God bless you in Christ, keep getting stronger in  true faith in Christ and God undeserved kindness direct access by him to God Almighty, It is Bethel that “can end any day now”, not the overall world system heading into Daniel 11:42-45 over this cycle connecting to Daniel 12 final fulfillment live and real-time, year over year all outlined in prophecy already, prophecy concealed by lawless Bethel.

Another “ten” “virgin” judgment is due. Everything repeats in final form now, even Bethel’s UN allied lawlessness is itself a repeating principle signaling guaranteed judgment first; (1Pet4:17 as Dan8:13-14 as Rev8:1-6);

Bethel UN NGO Red Flag

Bethel UN NGO Red Flag

Yes the GB development is just the tip of the iceberg. The fact a UN 3rd manifestation was not commented on at all, other than in co-promotionals of George Bush Sr.’s “new world order” mantra is a bad sign of reality. That the 1st, 2nd and last UN placement is all shown in prophecy, but the third placement falls off the Bethel radar as prophecy or even significant in global meaning is of course also suspect.

To think a GB group could not foresee a UN NGO in itself would be a reproach, regardless of rationale, is also suspect. In fact once one lists the anomalies all one can see is an expert infiltration which operations are well known in intelligence type methods of internal control of many organizations that could account for all this weirdness.

And thus any JW comment or concern is merely channeled to the trash can, and the GB inquisitional self protection device can filter out any dissension closer to home, and thus the illusion can easily be maintained by simply sampling a volume of past articles, continuing the charade and JW busy work, while central control takes the whole actual corporate system way off course.

All it will take is the proper global event to catalyze the rest of the operation, and JWs know full well the Devil and the current forming elite 8th King system would have a goal of simply shutting down JWs entirely, even in the current misled state. It will take such an event to also get through to JWs, because now the GB is in total control of mind and operations. I really would hate to see the real depth of orchestration that the GB is just the tip of. Actually I would like to see it in fact, but I will just assume the WTS is also full of impostors and the method of multi-generational and multi-organizational infiltration is well planned and founded and is actually of exert deployment; an operation such as this has the goal of avoiding outright detection and removal, yet must display signs of operation, and simply uses plausible deniability to cover any accusation.

Literally for a true Christian in Kingdom covenant NOTHING could be worse than a UN association other than outright sins against the holy spirit that is in the operation itself as the only thing worse than a UN alliance. But I think none of the current GB is actually even Christian, much less genuine anointed.

I think they plan to use a 2014 centennial timing to really cap off the illusion for the JW psychology. Just my speculation, it is in my opinion, pretty hard to pass up such an opportunity.

In the end, recoverable JW Christians will have to make that 1-2-3-4 UN placement announcement while the 8th King is heading for that 4th placement event; (Dan11:42-45). Meaning it’s implications and it’s solid historical continuum to obvious Armageddon meaning and climax, will be very disturbing to some people indeed once purified JWs click UN 3 and 4 into place properly. (Thus “little scroll” news ending in Rev11:7 final 8th King attack will parallel Daniel 11:44 8th King “attack” reaction);

But recoverable JWs (and others) will be filled in on all this after the temple judgment as per Rev8:6-12 heralds. Once Bethel takes the marked initial hit, you can use Daniel 8:14 to know it will go on for at least 3 years of desolations. (Hos6:1-3; Isa37:30-32). And that timing will be needed to convince many JWs in shock. Dan8:13-14 activates with Rev8:1-6, so JW temple judgment basically starts Rev8-11 and it cannot be reversed but takes a few years (Rev11:2) to get to Revelation 11:7-15.

The internal Betel subversion cannot forever keep JWs at first two UN placement understanding, the 3rd placement will have to be explained while the 4th placement approaches, because this world is even now, not far from the Armageddon divine war phase, well marked in prophecy and world events to continue, and of course God WILL let the world know what is actually up (the little scroll) in this 4th UN placement in no uncertain terms as to where it must and will lead as the 8th King completes actual world government. (Rev10-11, final fulfillment).

Using JWs in a judgment will get world attention as well (1Pet4:17), and what seems like a celebration to opposers due to the JW downfall, will end up becoming a very ominous explanation of prophecy instead, well marked and evidenced, and in the final activation, of the final cycle, that must proceed to the finale, all foretold and well mapped in the original JW development of 1914-1918, merely replicating to actual Armageddon finalities, and 8th King and Messianic Kingdom basically concurrent completions.

All in all, it will be a very clear, drawn out and thorough final warning. (Rev11:1-15; Zech3:6-9).

Thank You,


USSR Fails, Also Fails as King North, as UN Third Placement of 1990 Assumes King North Identity as 8th King!

Governing Body 1976 Root of Subversion

Governing Body 1976 Wormwood Root of Corruption and Subterfuge

The real culturing of the JW mind occurred under the GB tenure (1976 incept) and gradual development that quickly instituted a system of self protection by removal of any outspoken critics. (1980).

Thus like the concept of boiling a frog in water increasingly heated gradually, the GB subverters have been very careful to observe scientifically backed methods of very gradual, subtle, but regular mind control methods over 37 years of their direct guidance as a “rule by committee” formerly unheard of in JWs and IBSA.

The “frog” is the JW mindset, the water is the organizational culture, the heat is the mental conditioning that is not meant to retain members, increase growth or recover JWs, as the statistics show in a 10% decrease in JW growth in that GB tenure period, and the worst retention rate of any religion on earth, and probably 1/3 of JWs mentally fully out of “the truth”, because GB stumbling methods, also scientific in application, must be by this time purposeful. The JW organizational engineering cannot simply create all this negativity, under a veneer of illusion for no reaosn.

And that reason is to aid the concealment of a final world cycle that starts with national financial “problems” as a scale requiring an international monetary, finance and investment authority implementation as the “solution”. And that financial globalization process of that international authority will take time to implement, it’s creative structure for doing so is already present – thus just a matter of time when national financial compromise will equal international ascension of financial power. (And in prophecy it is also the first step in that process of full world government; (Dan11:42-43)).

A point is the web and international news is full of the realization a large financial solution will be required, and it will take a number of years to even get foundationally implemented, and in that process nations will have to forego former ownership control of many debt ridden institutions that have to fall under a new “master credit” system in that process, as just one part of the transformation. A globalized world governmental process is also common knowledge to many world geo-political experts, elites, and international minded politicians like Putin and Ron Paul as examples of men knowing a uni-polar potential world government is well underway to attempt a sole world sovereignty over say a decade. This is why Bethel dumbs down JWs to anti-web impressions which also equals an ignorance of a globalization process with much developmental evidence.

And thus we reach the actual Bethel objective. To sell what is coming as the BEGINNING of the globalization process in marked acceleration as it’s end. JWs are expecting “it can end any day now brothers!”, when in fact it cannot end quite so fast, because God and Christ cannot come to confront a world sovereign (8th King) who does not even exist yet in complete form, and will not exist for another ten years.

So the Bethel GB cabal, installed in 1976 anticipating this cycle to start soon, have an ultimate goal to disable Bethel financially and organizationally in this process, because trans-national corporate planners, like Bethel’s, know full well the true financial condition of the US and EU and that they underpin 2/3’s of the world’s monetary and economic systems fully. So a US and EU engineered financial meltdown, will of course affect even the stronger fiscal systems, like China for example. And in many of those external creditors, like China, is the final ownership of the final controlling portion of America’s financial and investment power (compromised by 15 trillion in debt and 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities), and within other nations also disguised in the international corporate investment complex of the international order in that way.

Thus in simplified concept, many national financial entities in America in a 10% range of consolidation, must also end up absorbed into the bigger picture, as with the EU situation as well. And in that financial meltdown engineered, not total collapse but guiding partial implosions, is when Bethel is also going to be “absorbed” into corporate entities NOT connected with a Christian ministry. And that developmental period of say 2 or 3 intense years, the GB wants to sell to JWs as an instant end scenario, and use JW “self fulfilling prophecy” to make an organized corporate takeover look like “prophecy fulfilling brothers!”.

So the JW mindset of trust and obedience to the organization, and prematurely applied prophecy misapplied to this major event cycle, will aid the bewilderment of JWs thinking one thing, when in fact another totally different scenario will be what is in action. Thus JWs “self fulfilling prophecy” will be coming true as they expect a Bethel “attack” and “desolation”, but it will not be at the actual point in time of world government completion at the end of the cycle as per JW expected Daniel 11:44-45, but only the BEGINNING of the final cycle as Daniel 11:42-43. So JWs will be out of sync with prophecy and with the globalization process to actually a decade later, finally present a fully functioning international scale full world government, including the UN international forum, but far beyond it’s financial and military scope of authority.

Thus the corporate raid of Bethel at international scale with a billion in potential booty, has an internal Bethel subversion and mental conditioning program to minimize the chances of any JW obstacles to form now or later as the raid actually goes into clandestine means of liquidating Bethel as to form WTS and corporate control, at a scale and complexity that will shift many WT “peas” to new corporate financial “shells” to effectively dissect and devour Bethel’s assets to some severe degree in the process, making 100s of millions in hard asset scores, and demobilizing the whole JW ministry in the process.

And poor JW “frogs”, now set to boil, will all the while think it is all prophecy, but it is all misapplied prophecy cultured to aid the cover-up of first two or three years of the operation Bethel corporate takeover. Since the operators know it must go one for a decade or so, all they want to do is get past the first couple years of most of the actual corporate finalities, then JWs can be left to figure it all out on their own, the operation will have been fully successful, and will have employed expert tacticians and operatives right in Bethel, through the GB fronting control group, to facilitate the operation in direct manner since 1976. It’s gradual nature of many objectives in the process is wy most JWs today, 37 years later, are mostly unaware of what has actually been changed to aid the final Bethel takeover, and to create in JWs a mindset that actually expects that “attack” and “desolation”, but of course is unaware of what is actually attacking and it’s starting point in the process of Daniel 11:42-45, not at it’s end as JWs “expect Daniel 11:44 next brothers!”.

The whole thing is a perfect hoax and engineered expectation in JWs to cover up the actual operation meaning, with a delusion, until of course it is way too late to reverse. Once it is as complete as it can be in in 2 or 3 years, JWs can just be abandoned to try to figure it all out in a final cycle leading to actual world government that must continue to go forward for more years of final developments. JWs will be to say the least, lost and bewildered for quite some time.

Jehovah’s Witnesses Repeat False Prophecy Pattern

Subtle Development of False Prophecy in Jehovah’s Witnesses

We need to use basic logic here, as Bethel has none. A prophet and an interpreter of prophecy are not the same thing, they are separate things entirely. The only prophets are people who foretell future events before they occur from no previous prophecy. Most Bible prophets, if not all, understood almost nothing of the prophecy they recorded.

Like Daniel, who just went through on temple desolation, was now foretelling another temple desolation, even before the temple was rebuilt! No wonder he was exhausted!

But Daniel knew nothing of the detailed meaning of the prophecy.

As per 2Pet1:19-21, an interpretation that is accurate, must come from God. So an interpretation of accuracy initially must be opened by God, such as recognizing a nucleus of human world government (in the League of Nations as Rev13:11-15) is unique and indeed ominous if in fact Christ is the appointed world ruler to come. That means a conflict will occur as both complete kingdom.

So is the interpretation of Rev13:11-15 correct in world government formative manifestation as an “image” or nucleus of that kind of globalized world power?

People have to make their own decision.

At the churches Rev13:11-15 has many interpretations, none of which must offend their allegiance to the League, still maintained. With JWs, they have a similar agreement with the UN as UN NGO. And like the church interpreters not signing off on IBSA interpretations of Revelation 13, JWs do not reveal the UN 8th King as King North of the 3rd UN placement of 1990 at Daniel 11:31b either. (As Bethel too, made agreement in tangent with a UN worldwide manifestation and fulfillment of prophecy, like 1919 with Christendom cleric councils).

So Bethel or JWs cannot be prophets by logical default explained here, and are not valid interpreters either, for like their twin sister world government escorts of 1919, today’s Bethel UN escort service has JWs concealing King North identity as if the USSR “places the [UN] disgusting thing”, which is of course impossible and thus a falsehood now maintained as Bethel prophetic interpretive policy.

Thus distinguishing a prophet who spoke things he/she did not understand, and an interpreter who can make true or false explanations of prophecy is important to logically understand to easily disqualify post 1945 JWs at 1990 evidence as never prophet, but merely false interpreters.

JWs did expound the 2nd UN placement as prophecy of Rev17:8-11. But again, one has to make their own determination of it’s validity in both those first two UN placements JWs explained as others covered it up with various false interpretations in relation to JWs view of their 1945 veracity.

But now what is a UN 1-2-3-4 continuum when we include Daniel 11:30-45 final two UN placements (1990; future) as 3rd and 4th renditions, with the JW expounded first two UN placements of 1919 and 1945, we no longer have a valid 1-2-3-4 continuum to implied Armageddon (Dan11:45), because in 1990 JWs went UN NGO, and could not explain Daniel 11:27-45 properly so as not to betray their UN allies by proper exposition of that 1990 post “cold war” (Dan11:29) 3rd UN placement of actual Daniel 11:30-31 intrigues at Bethel in UN collusion.

The Bethel self-incrimination in that prophecy, hence it’s diversion, is fairly obvious in the prophecy in the UN NGO itself, not to mention the diversion of interpretation later, as church central clerics did the same thing in 1919 and 1945.


So JWs are not prophets or valid interpreters, because even the Daniel 11:44, now delusion of “attack”, “to fulfill next brothers”, is based on USSR fiction. And that USSR fictional position in the prophecy is advanced too far into Daniel 11 as far as the overall 8th King globalization process. Thus as Daniel 11:42-43 obvious coming global debt intrigues ends in a national collective pawning to subservience as captured “King South” wealth and finances, by a globalized 8th King “King North” credit and finance system, JWs will think those intrigues are Daniel 11:44; prematurely.

And thus the internal UN operation at Bethel, obvious in it’s allegiance (UN NGO) and interpretive diversions, can then implode Bethel financially in the same worldwide context of debt and investment meltdowns, and the 8th King can proceed with Daniel 11:42-45 to 4th UN placement as also full international government – and JWs will be sold a brilliant hoax “interpretive” “explanation” already in place for such use.

Now the UN 1-2-3-4 super-cycle since 1919 can then complete with no obstruction as to Bible prophecy, and place a fully functioning world government (Dan11:45; 8:25; 12:11) like a decade into that final cycle, with no potential JW problem, or aid, as JWs already aided the UN development to even get this far with no prophetic exposure, and misapplied prophecy to aid the JW delusions.

In a way, JWs are prophets now.

In fact the Bethel theology is so well engineered, JWs are now “self fulfilling prophets” as a purposeful interpretive deception is obviously at work in JWs in marked manner since 1990 and the USSR deposition which of course renders King North impossible as per Dan11:36 to fulfill in the USSR, so that error must be purposely maintained to position JWs psychologically at Daniel 11:44, which can be very useful later to finish off the JW organization as JWs actually expect that desolation in their “self fulfilling prophecy”.

Only problem is it will not be Daniel 11:44, or the desolation JWs think is in action, and by the time they figure it out, of course it will be way too late, the 8th King will be pedal to the metal towards world government having just run over JWs as the latest road kill in that roughly ten year trip to 4th UN placement.

So yes, Bethel does have self-fulfilling prophets foretelling the JW future for the 8th King. And Bethel does have prophetic interpreters engineering JW theology to hoax JWs. And like 1919, it all has a clear tie in to UN related organizational operations at Bethel, signaled in the UN NGO. And in this unique case the “prophet” and the “interpreter” is the GB. In most cases prophet and interpreter are separate functions and entities.


Of course that’s my “interpretation”, people have to make their own determinations. Bethel though, is a defunct visionary, as many do agree now.

Bethel Apostasy Repeats a Common Judgment Pattern

Bethel Patterns Repeat


Thanks for the links, and for the message. I will find time to look at them. The more I read from and about the WTS, the more obvious they and their motives become.


Your welcome.

It is a pattern, and speaking personally and for fellow witnesses in a vow, we already have taught the replication principle. What happened to Israel in 740 BCE  repeated eventually on Jerusalem in 607 BCE, then the whole thing repeated again on Jerusalem in 70 CE form. Then we early JWs of this era made the connection as God must have impelled by Christ, that as per those prophetic principles of ancient and classic Jerusalem, what all of Christendom, as the Bible Students did spring from that overall development, was experiencing in the WW1 period was a divine judgment period that repeated those patterns on a “Jerusalem” that Christ had now transformed into a new covenant spiritual meaning into a worldwide form.

And that whole development aided by the psychological excitement of a world war tribulation, something that had never occurred at that scale before then, did produce the similar pattern, and it did produce what really was a wonderful clarification of the basic Bible truths of God and Christ’s individual nature yet united purpose, and other key clarifications allowing people to fully know how to worship God in an aware approved form, that the Bible Students becoming early Jehovah’s witnesses, did at one time have a successful approved ministry doing this first work. And notably the world church institutional proper top administrative associations did endorse the League of Nations and did not inform people of the ramification of it’s existence as a forming world government, and that a prophetic manifestation was in action to inform people of what was also a concurrent Kingdom of God announcement. (What is also notable, is the modern Bethel apostates also endorse the UN as UN NGO, so too, that pattern is repeating, and in modern form).

Just the concurrence of such great events in human history all occurring at the same time is really far more significant than most people realize. A human national body in the League of Nations making such a worldwide claim on an international starting union of forming world governmental basis, like a Genesis 11 Tower of Babel unification revisiting in modern form, was of course also far more significant tan people realize. Although not destructive, the Genesis 11 first “globalization” attempt did receive a divine intervention to break it up. So those early Christians in fuller awareness of all these unique occurrences for their time, with amazing and parallel, but opposed manifestations in BOTH claimant world rulership systems in that UN related presentation and God’s Kingdom announcement, were greatly compelled to say something about it, and comparing the 1920s world campaign Rutherford and Bible Students proclaimed to even London to exclaim the meaning tactfully (in 1926), even in some newspapers in full detail as “Testimony to the Rulers of this World”, is in no comparison to the 3rd UN manifestation of 1990 hush-hush nature at Bethel, and worse them joining it instead, and worse still, rather than reaffirm to the people what it means, and how it is leading there as actual Dan11:30-45. And worse still, cover up that 3rd UN manifestation with a failed USSR error to this day.

The point is a baptized witnesses we should be doing likewise as regards a re-affirming of world warning according to the most modern manifestation of that United Nations, not just the first two UN related manifestations of 1919 and 1945, which is were JWs are currently stalled. And this is because the UN has a four Bile foretold manifestations in an easy to see 1-2-3-4 cycle once one knows the post “cold war” 1990 UN “new world order” proclamation in another word for a world government order, is Daniel 11:31b in what will be a continuum to Daniel 11:45 4th and last UN manifestation. And it is not at Daniel 11:43 fulfilled progress, Daniel 11:41 is the current Bethel invasion of these King North 8th King allies. And for Bethel to mislead JWs to also conceal the 8th King as the only possible King North from Daniel 11:27-45, is of course also a great negligence, so great and obvious it must be purposeful as “those leaving the holy covenant” continuance of Daniel 11:30b-31b developments.

Thus as JWs we were the ones pointing out the replication principle from times past, but now in this error are not applying the final repeat to our own apostate condition right from Bethel. Like the deliverance of the Israelites from Egypt, or Christians out of Babylonian inspired religious systems, today Christians need deliverance out of the Bethel Babylonian and 8th King allied bondage system. That pattern also repeats and God WILL bring forth again, but in final form, a clarified meaning and a Christian remnant. And it must invite others because of course this final cycle is not going to be an approximate century long. And it is certain God is not accepting the current form for 40 years at least of the JW Bethel gradual counterfeit development (Dan8:12), and the final salvation will go out assuredly in the final fulfillment Rev 11 and 14 meanings to all mankind, and Christ in time will have a final marked period completing his own ministry (Matt10:23), after that replicating Rev 11 and Dan12:7 1260 day time period.

In the final sheep separation is where people will be told to align by faith in the undeserved kindness and salvation power in Christ’s sacrifice, there will not be time to develop another ministerial system to the degree formerly, which in time devolves into corruption in Adamic nature and demon influences, so what is coming is of course the Kingdom to earth as per Rev21 and Matt6:10 in it’s final complete and perfect form as ultimate replacement of the whole human mess of government and religion. In the Bible Christians are never termed a “religion” but a faith. (Rev14:12). Not that a religious organized system cannot be useful, or is bad in itself as long as it remains faith based, FAITH itself is more important, and faith itself is the unity. Of course to get anything done requires a little order, but the perfect order of a “Jerusalem” “coming down from heaven” TO earth, is going to be the nucleus of true order based on true truth, and restoration out of death, which means a gradual removal of ways that cultivate sin. And God has all that patience in Christ’s blood, that must also include Christ’s body as a whole sacrifice with the intent of perfection humanity faithful and cooperative into a perfect human state capable of everlasting existence, and ultimately needing no blood atonement once in that sinless actuality to be found only in Christ. And that is why Christ is “last Adam”, that “became a life giving spirit”, but he began as the “last Adam” “out of heaven” who “became flesh and resided among us” to ultimately provide God the sacrifice whose blood atonement gives the time and opportunity to also reach the perfect state of body in that “last Adam” HUMAN sacrifice, because dead Adam never will be able to provide that reality of human being perfection.

Hence it is a process by which the blood now as Christ’s, as God’s own Son, valuable to God, precious in His eyes, whose value can be applied to ANY sinner with faith in what is being provided here, and assurance it is as good as God accepting Jesus himself, because any man covered by Christ is being accepted by God as assured as if it was Christ himself, because that is what it is leading to. Whether for human recovery or the spirit recovery, Christ as BOTH forms available for founding this recovery as Matt19:28 “regeneration”, “re-creation” as Rev21:1-5, Rev22:1-3, Rom8:8-22, 1Cor15.

Since God is NOT abandoning His original purpose for man, earth and creation at Gen1:26-28, this Christ perfect human form accessible to God to apply to all man and creation by extension of Gen1:26-28, is how God will provide humans through that provision of Christ to actually be full “in God’s image”, which Adam and the woman no longer are, nor are their children. And that is why the Isa9:6 Eternal Father Christ, by his Bride, MUST bear human children from among mankind to God the ultimate father of all, for this recovery to actually transpire in the 1000 year reign. Ultimately the entire Kingdom reality of that Messianic recovery is FOR HUMANS! For people long lost, recently lost and currently lost to be resurrected on the basis of last Adamic perfection in Christ out of an Adamic state that has only one temporary life to provide in it.

All creation under that Gen1:26-28 hierarchy must also be recovered into a life blessing (Eze47, 47:9; Isa34:14-17), aided by the Heb2:14 Christ relations for that purpose to actually apply that perfection in Christ the former perfect tested human, whose life and sacrificial power is still alive and accessible to God by that sacrifice, to any one who wants it and is willfully cooperative as many will be progressing in faith even now, to that actual perfection and recovery.


Being unfamiliar with their older lessons, I don’t know if this whole warning and setup is merely a repeated pattern, or if this is the worst it’s been. No one seems particularly alarmed, so I was starting to assume that this was normal for them. Or maybe they are just numb after all this time.


Yes it is a gradual complacency that has developed because the central supposed watchmen are the ones fully asleep and also lulling JWs with very effective illusions based on the JW past, and using Bible truth as their veneer and attraction, but of course belying the claims in their actual conduct. Like Jerusalem or medieval Christendom, it is a common pattern, even at Noah’s time (Matt24:36-44) complacency set in, so all those judgment where upon most people as a “thief in the night”.

BUT this judgment to start on the JW ministry is for a signal and for a purification and a deliverance out of Bethel subversions by the removal of trespassers guaranteed, to be eventually removed in the desolation culmination, because Bethel has factional frauds that are trying to corrupt all JWs in similar “smooth word” fashion (Dan11:32a) as any other time, but this is severe because we are heading towards the final UN world government actuality over this coming decade, and God has that reliably already laid out in Dan8:13-14 and Dan 12 timing once JWs are awoken (Matt25:1-13) to reality after temple desolation of Daniel 8:14 “evening” darkness completes. A “morning” of recovery and full enlightenment will come as per Dan8:14, 26, and the purification.

Rather than fortify people’s faith and progress in discernment and insight to do such by taking truth further, as we see Bethel is stagnant, undiscerning and in fact harms people’s faith by design, they are doing the opposite of what true anointed Christians would be doing if they actually were at Bethel, but there is no actual Christian or anointed input at Bethel actually driving the ministry, just the veneer using truth to cover up deeper developments. What anointed Kingdom ambassador would even think of joining the UN?? It is preposterous the lies Bethel is promoting and the conduct they are engaged in, pure treason and evil, plain and simple.

And thus for this final decade God has to make a clarification, or the whole former 1914-1950 Kingdom ministry would be lost and fully erased once this operation goes into final coup. As we saw JWs do expose the first two UN placements. But are derailed so as to ascertain the 3rd and 4th UN placement as Daniel 11:30-45 since 1990 3rd UN manifestation. Thus hidden under the latest diversions is a truth that needs to be completed and made known worldwide in time.

So although it is indicating a pattern repeating in many features seen even now (2Thess2:1-4; and papal-like claim of apostleship [1]; Rev2:2), it is also as you say “the worst it’s been”, it is both sister. And by your faith I consider you a sister, I do not go by JW hogwash of their own modern slowly developed apostasy. Though I have been a Christian Jehovah’s witness for 22 years baptized, and nearly born in, but left in my late teens and returned in late twenties and now 50, I do not consider modern JWs organizationally clean or Christian, but recoverable to some degree as per prophecy, but not under the current leadership. Thus I have to have a balance to not let men dictate my faith and standing which is by Christ ALONE to God, but at the same time I realize JWs are fully deceived and need aid, and God and Christ are of course not abandoning the ministry at the homestretch. They are just making another purification and clarification just like in the old days, and it will be helpful to JWs waking up to of course do it upon a very familiar pattern, as JW foundations are quite simple once one is taught that information rather than constant Bethel minutia and distraction. Bethel is just one huge system of distraction and reproach. The basics are quite simple in the 1914-1918 meaning of a ministry and an inspection that also resulted in a purification and a first Kingdom proclamation as Dan 12:7 and Rev11:-3. And led through all of Daniel 12 as a preview, but a final cycle of Daniel 12 will also occur.

That is all there is to it, it all repeats to finality. That very meaning is now preparing to replicate but using a unique Dan8:13-14 timed wake up call temple judgment to get the ball rolling. In time Rev8 (temple judgment parallel) must progress to Rev 11 upon the same former JW principles, but not targeting Christendom any longer, but the far more focused Christian system based on that early JW ministry. That is what God is now looking at and obviously no one is happy with the JW state, not God, and not people who see what is really at work. Of course many JWs are blinded because what is now apostasy right from Bethel, of course very very gradually snuck in, over 40 years, with the GB central cell of corruption. Where once Bethel had anointed individual watchdogs, by 1976 Bethel went to “rule by committee”, and that committee in the GB was able to be factionally controlled progressively to today’s 100% corruption council. The GB is Bethel’s “root of all evil”, plain and simple, and the focus of God’s removal over a somewhat drawn out process timed in Dan8:14, as 1Pet4:17.

Of course I would be dfd for such truth – that is how bad Bethel is, they oppose the actual truth and exposure of their corruption and defection. (“set in opposition”; 2Thess2:3); I also still claim to be a Jehovah’s witness and Kingdom witness and one fully in complete understanding of our teachings and what they imply for the UN rival world government that will complete. THAT is the focus JWs have lost due to Bethel UN alignments far more than just the UN NGO. And I was once as deceived even two years ago as JWs are now. And I know WHERE and HOW they are using modern misapplied and premature prophetic expectations to not only mislead JWs, but our world audience, and HOW those purposeful errors can cover up what is already expected to be an attack – it just will not be the one JWs think it is (Dan11:44 misapplied by Bethel), it will be the divine required “trampling” of Dan8:13-14 for the UN NGO “transgression causing desolation” as Bethel is run now by UN agents. I can prove from former prophecy and it’s REQUIRED final repeat in principle form, all JW truth we had, and the truth that must eventually be spoken by judged, recovered and cleansed future Jehovah’s witness Christians. I am not attacking anything at Bethel but what is a modern apostasy foretold as Daniel 11:32-35 parallels the apostasy of 2Thess2:3 AND it’s lawless lead at Bethel.

The unique thing of my ministry now is telling JWs to NOT trust the organization, and to observe Matt24:15 for UN NGO “disgusting thing”, and to REAFFIRM the original truth in what became JWs from 1914 to corrupting GB tenure is ALL VALID TRUTH of Kingdom coming import. I am merely telling JWs it will ALL repeat in final form, it is NOT an instant “end of the world”, the UN WILL complete a world government over the coming decade, and JWs are being LIED to, to think this cycle is the “end of the world any day now brothers!”. It is Bethel, not the world, that can “end any day now” for treasonous false worship, brazen lawlessness and worldwide reproach of Jehovah God and Christ and the genuine anointed Christians and all JW’s. In fact they are doing a disservice to all mankind because it does not end as they say, it goes into the Daniel 11:42-43 financial pawning into 8th King power and into 8th King world government as Daniel 11:44-45 as Rev17:12-18 and Rev16:12-16 culminate over a number of years.

Thus unlike many simply abandoning the whole JW truth and ministry as all corrupt, like most at JWN, I am telling JWs who understand we have truth and a corruption at the same time, to expect a divine clarifying judgment just like in 1914, and to expect to have to inform the world later as to the meaning of 3rd to 4th UN placement progression of Daniel 11:31-45 as what it really is! UN King North 8th King activity is what Daniel 11:30-45 is, that Bethel is not just UN NGO for 8th King, but also a concealer of that reality in prophecy. The UN NGO and this cover up ARE related! Bethel represents the required final apostasy AND it’s modern final “man of lawlessness” and JWs need to be impartial to assess the corruption at Bethel is now purposeful! Bethel is not standing for pure worship, but parroting the past JW pure worship as a veneer to lead JWs into UN alliances, and into great sins like the shunning and pedophile protect program AND misleading the world with a premature end expectation that both the incomplete 8th King globalization process AND prophecy final cycle requirement PROVES a number of years of climax of both developments MUST still take place. It CANNOT simply end tomorrow, God’s Kingdom completion in all 144000 under Christ, and the 8th King completion must yet occur, and that will take some years in the final Daniel 12 cycle as Daniel 12:11 repeating as 4th UN placement.

The illusion of “it can end any day now” merely makes JWs susceptible to being herded and vulnerable to mass confusion when this hits, because it will NOT immediately result in Christ’s final Kingdom manifestation, and that tribulation period MUST come AND end as per Matt24:29 prior to Christ initial manifestation as Matt24:30-31. Thus as JWs expect the end at anytime during the desolation of the JW org, instead Dan8:14 years will roll by, the 8th King will proceed full throttle to 4th UN placement over those years, and JWs will be organizationally desolated, dumbfounded as to what is really going on, and totally lost as to true prophetic import of the UN 1-2-3-4 super-cycle to world government that will be IN PROGRESS while JWs are in mass disarray, scattered and confused.

THAT is what lawless Bethel’s core subverters are developing, while maintaining appearances as therapeutic dialogue to the contrary; (2Cor11:13-15).  It is ALL a big ACT to slowly lull JWs worldwide into the inevitable final cycle, and into as many traps as they can manage, and they will have a couple years of operations to do so as per Dan8:14 (Hos6:1-3; Isa37:30-32), because JWs are NOT perceiving it repeats a prophecy and it is timed as Dan 12, as in 1914, and it starts with a TIMED Daniel 8:13-14 unique temple judgment, desolation and purification period leading to Dan12 (over Dan11:42-43 then 44-45) to signal JWs with proof the final cycle is what is BEGINNING, not ending as per Bethel purposeful illusions.

Thus just as the UN NGO links to covering up 8th King prophecy in Dan11:30-45, these deceptions are also maintained to bewilder JWs in the final cycle by premature expectations that will not be what is really activating. And it is all foretold God and Christ as per Zech3:1-7 and Mal3:1-5 are the ones who MUST cleanse JWs into final truth and recover JWs for the final Kingdom completion warning ministry as Rev 10-11 MUST happen again:

(Revelation 10:11) 11 And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

Because God will not finally intervene at Armageddon until AFTER the UN becomes a full actual world government (Dan12:11) and makes the final world sovereign statement to that effect as “peace and security” under 8th King “scarlet wildbeast” COMPLETE and worldwide actual world government rival system; (1Thess5:1-3 “peace and security” as Dan8:25 “freedom from care”, parallel Dan11:45; Dan12:11). And that will take a final world tribulation cycle that MUST over some years end as per Matt24:29 “immediately after the tribulation of those days”, just as WW1, WW2, WW3 (cold war; Dan11:29) also were resolved and in the final resolution is when the UN makes it’s historic FINAL presentation as full world government beyond, but including, the former UN schematic as international forum.

It is also a formula to use world tribulation to present UN placement, 1-2-3 times so far. The “cold war” is the unique signal of Daniel 11:29 that preceded Daniel 11:31b 4th UN placement.

This fourth cycle must also complete a world tribulation fourth phase to also be resolved (as per Matt24:29) for the fourth UN placement as also world government of all human history as Dan11:45 parallel Dan12:11, Dan8:25, Rev11:7 “abyss ascension” of UN world government. And that is why Bethel covering up the 1990 3rd UN placement (Dan11:31b), that will lead to a 4th UN world government placement, is so critical – they are breaking JW and world awareness of the 1-2-3-4 cycle guarantee all outlined in prophecy as final 3rd and 4th UN placements of Daniel 11:30-45. It is also why actual world “peace and security” (1Thess5:1-3) as the Daniel 8:25 “freedom from care”, or “time of security”, occur AFTER the UN 4th cycle completion as full worldwide government, full incept “new world order. And logically that takes some doing, and some final years.

THAT is when Matt24:29-31 resolution of that world tribulation into 8th King ascendancy (Rev11:7; Dan11:45; Dan8:25) WILL see the initial Christ manifestation as per accurate prophecy. And that is also why the 8th King and Bethel wants to derail and shut up JWs permanently, because recovered JWs MUST inform the world of the real Daniel 11:30-45 meaning WHILE that UN 4th cycle is in full action!

And that is why most JWs I know are so organizationally and preaching busy, they have lost touch with our foundational truth IMPORTANCE to fully stay in touch with of Daniel 12’s 1914-1926 cycle! Many JW elders I know are simply Bible IQ 53, no joke, they do not understand our truth fully, they do not want to discuss our truth fully, they believe errors that have logical accuracy, they squelch any prophetic update and conversation, they are protecting error. It blows my mind how superficially minded JWs with 20, 30, and 40 years and more in the truth have become. I am not talking newbies and decaders still learning, that are actually NOT being taught properly by Bethel, I am talking JWs with decades of service who are ALSO being systematically dumbed down and deprogrammed of important foundational truths, trained to be know-it-all reactionaries who do NOT know enough, who should be experts of prophecy and replication basics we are BASED on as the way our faith and religious system was born!

I am not condemning my own complacent brothers and sisters, some are aware of this, I am condemning the Bethel frauds who are responsible for this laxity and backward momentum, they are why JWs have been dumbed down to not even recognize NOW, clearly repeating principles that ALWAYS have in the past preceded a divine judgment. I realize this apostasy at Bethel is real, purposeful, and for a final objective, and that God is who must AGAIN rescue JWs he can approve, and get rid of those, or wake those up who are not in current good standing, just deceived with the Bethel lawless ones as if everything is hunky dory. It is NOT, we JWs are in great danger and massive compromise as UN allies that is NO JOKE with God Almighty and Jesus Christ and JWs today think it is ok, it was for a “library card”, thus we can sleep with te UN because we got something we needed out of it. Ridiculous. But that is exactly what Bethel is telling JWs, and resisting needed constructive critical updating for their infallible illusion as some modern day collective pope as the GB. [1]

Like other judgments it is the leaders who have corrupted. Another principle repeating now at Bethel.

But God WILL discipline JWs as foretold, and it will be big, a signal, and a wake up call as per Matt25:1-13 also repeating. In fact every initial pattern and meaning will now replicate, like the “man of lawlessness” and his Bethel “weed” patch seeding system. Thus a true Christian needs to understand 1Pet4:17 starts with JWs, not BTG, and God will inspect and judge JW first to kick off what must be a multi-year final cycle. JWs need to get back to reality first in that judgment, and it needs to be big because JWs are now FULLY lost for 22 years of UN cover up, and injected major deceptions now in our ministry as per Bethel Rev8:10-11 modern fall and modern wormwood, that even affect anointed Christians with decades in “the truth” that simply is not all truth any longer as per Rev8:10-11 “1/3” compromised and profaned meaning.

JWs who truly understand and appreciate and stay in touch with the 1914-1926 pattern, and Daniel 12 and that Red Revelation book initial explanation (compiled from 1963 and 1969 Revelation completed, but two part commentaries), to these JWs this whole development is obvious a beginning of a great final replication. Some, but not many JWs I know understand this is based on the original patterns and meanings but in modern form, and also heading to a completion of major fulfillment, not the 1914-1926 preview and foregleam fulfillment, BUT THE REAL THING! And this time it WILL see Christ arrive in full Kingdom power! (Rev11:7-15 as Matt24:29-31).

Thus do not abandon faith in God, Christ and the Bible Word of God reality, due to the JW apostasy, that is it’s purpose, to stumble people and make them doubt the whole Bible and lose sight of the original Kingdom proclamation and it’s original proof. And JWs have to actually be fully recovered and make world amends for this Bethel modern travesty.

What is occurring is the GB method of control has allowed a very gradual takeover to occur first by factional control from what was once individually guided system of insight similar to the decentralized apostles. In Acts 15 or Rev2-3 there never was a central “governing body”, it is not mentioned, it was accepted by plausibility and early adoption in the 1940s of a concept neither named as such or described as such in the Bible. By 1971 they were capitalizing the term “Governing Body”, prior to that it was “governing body” termed, prior to 1940 it was non-existent. What it actually was was a way to attach a group method of control to justify a secular board of directors as if it is divinely mandated as the “Governing Body”. This by 1976 allowed a factional sub-group in that specialized “Governing Body” to gain a majority to develop the initiative that Jehovah’s witnesses as an organization should have their teachings and policies policed by a counsel rather than apostle-like anointed leads, classic in Russell, Rutherford, Knorr and what would have been Fred Franz, had this GB coup not formed. (But it also had to form to allow 2Thess2:3 final signal fulfillment).

Neither Nathan Knorr or Fred Franz was in agreement with a “rule by committee” change, and in fact resisted it, but by factional override allowed by a 1975 surge in GB membership, by 1976 they voted in their own dictatorship. By 1980 they established a Bethel inquisitional purge system, and demonstrated their dictatorship, and also had a handy system of self protection also then in place. By 1990 of course they were covering up what the fall of the USSR really meant as assumed King North which by Daniel 11:36b continually successful requirement the USSR also failed as King North as the UN 3rd manifestation occurred signaling the real meaning as 8th King is really the King North meaning from Daniel 11:27-45 as globalist world power upon national “south” decline.

So instead within 15 years of that 1976 coup, they went covert UN NGO instead by factional GB decision. Of course that is the initial true purpose of this non-Biblical body to have even gradually been introduced in theory in the 1940s, then applied to a WT board of directors with a more spiritual applied naming, then accepted as a fact by 1971 when they even capitalized their own corporate designation as “Governing Body” as some quasi supreme council of divine appointing, then went into dictatorial override by 1976, and of course are the cell of JW organized spiritual corruption very slowly applied, so JWs 37 years after that Bethel coup, think it has always been as such.

It has not. And it is in hindsight easy to lay out the development of what will end up going down in JW history as the central cell  and body of the “man of lawlessness” and the apostasy that group created as 2Thess2:3-4 final fulfillment cycle, and Dan11:30-32 related developments slowly culminating in Bethel by GB control.

By that UN NGO period control and 8th King cover up of 1990, they are basically stagnating JWs with an illusion of completion, when in fact they are not allowing the actual prophetic completion understanding to come forth. By impeding that prophetic completion awareness already present in prophecy elucidated by the real King North ID as 8th King from Daniel 11:27-45 making a 3rd and 4th UN placement progression in continuous manner (Dan11:36), they are also impeding the knowledge of all the final elements also go to climax. These were things JWs were tracking until this occurred in prophecy and world events. These completions are of the Kingdom proclamation, the 8th King world government totality and God’s Kingdom completion that parallels the temple completion meaning. These complete in a final cycle of a number of years, and that too, of course, is all truncated by the now fully lawless GB. And the effect will be to bewilder JWs as that final cycle activates, and derail and delay JWs as long as possible to try to impede the final actual prophetic explanation of all these guaranteed drawn out completions and how the prophecy and JW anointed first prophetic principles prove it.


Of course given the true framework of JW tracking prophecy which is a structure over time enlightened by God’s prophetic descriptions compared to world events becoming history as foretold in God’s prophecy, it takes one staying on both world developments and prophecy, their actual significance and probable description in prophecy matching the more important events as a pattern. For example Bethel lawless trends are now a pattern more easily seen now than say 1990. Some JWs are now so busy and theologically diverted so as not to even think a UN 3rd manifestation in 1990 is significant, instead the GB cultures the delusion the 2nd UN placement of 1945 is the end all form of 8th King power. Also many JWs do not realize that Bethel joined us to the UN as UN NGO at that 3rd UN placement period. A red flag is that Bethel never once has confessed their role as UN NGO to all JWs in an official publication announcement. That means purposely they are hiding that fact from some JWs awareness, every JW that does find out is from secondary secular sources, and WT communications to the world press, the web and son on – not by any official Bethel admission.

So to most misled JWs the Bethel lawlessness in detail in these worldly sources and the web of real Bethel conduct, is insignificant as organized apostate development, cover up and gross transgression all in the Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:30-32 prophecies that Bethel covers up with WW2 fictional interpretation which of course aids their operation remaining concealed from what is also complete prophetic explanation. Those prophecies ID the source as (1) 8th King subversion planning, (2) the defection of “those leaving the holy covenant”, (3) the imposter “arms that stand up” to carry out this subversion from a dictatorial location, (4) it’s UN placement collusion as “THEY will certainly place the disgusting thing that causes desolation” of Dan11:31b that links directly to the UN NGO portion at Bethel as the “transgression causing desolation” of Daniel 8:13. It IDs the (5) profanation and the required temple judgment on who, and why it occurring in Daniel 8:13-14 and how long it will last.

Thus the transgression and apostasy in both those 1990 culminating prophecies also connects to the Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment decree and the reason a “right condition” purification is needed at a scale of transgression of course related to UN UN NGO co-promotions of the rival 8th King 3rd placement, while they divert JW and public attention away from what it means concealing the 8th King as King North with now provable errors as 1990 events far better match those prophecies than WW2 era events. Bethel covert lawlessness also adds great evidence something is seriously wrong in the JW leadership. And concealing the Daniel 8:11-14 sequence with cover up as well, as inconsequential “organizational” corporate adjustments of the later 1930s described in 1940s Watchtowers. Of course it is not the more striking developments related to internal UN activity at Bethel that is being explained. And that equals also a cover up that aids the UN system by people not being aware it begins a UN completion process to world government from it’s 1990 3rd UN placement to it’s final world government placement as UN 4th manifestation of Daniel 11:45 in the future.

And of course both of those UN final manifestations of Daniel 11:30-45, as 3rd UN placement at Dan11:31b and 4th Un placement at Dan11:45, are very important to understand as a 1-2-3-4 completion cycle from what JWs already IDd in the 1st League of Nations placement of 1919 (Rev13:11-15), and the United Nations placement of 1945 as Rev17:8-11. JWs are thus being cleverly dead ended. Thus the core apostate engineering from the GB, also aids the UN co-promotions while a great diversion is also in place as cover up, in addition to sneaky little stumbling lawlessness policies and conduct to conduct a reproach ministry behind the scene, at the same time, all for the same purpose of working against the truth at all levels as much as possible all hidden under the former JW approved ministry veneer. (2Cor11:13-15; 2Pet2:1-3).

That element since 1976 in GB tenure, has driven the JW growth rate from 8, 10 and 15% highs prior to the GB tenure, to new 3, 2 and sub 1% lows in JW growth, the worst retention rate of any religion on earth, and a very poor recovery rate as well. So all that declination in spite of improved ministerial devices and 2-3 billion more people on earth over this trend duration. What it means is the UN NGO and pedophile and shunning policies have stumbled probably 8-10 million people collectively over 10 years of full worldwide web exposure, maybe more as te lost JW growth numbers. The lost JW growth rate in other words, is a new JW stumble rate in the magnitude of the losses, in 5% to 10% reciprocation of lost sheep and stumbled people as those driven away from God instead is what Bethel is peaking at. (2Pet2:1-3).

And of course very real lawlessness and extreme gravity of UN transgression means any awake JW would have to actually leave such a center of purposeful reproach once they fully understood the ministry is also influencing people to also expect a premature end, when in fact a final cycle is what is actually to begin, not end. Of course many JWs are simply unaware, or too attached to this 40 year transformation to organizational idolatry, or are in denial, or are lacking the needed time and information to make these comparisons, as Bethel also burdens JWs will all kinds of time consuming busy work that now aids this cover up of actual Bethel operations of lawlessness. (2Thess2:10-12).

So something has to give, and God is the one who is ultimately concerned with this needed adjustment, and it is foretold as a signal of the final cycle starting, not ending, and it will have to be big, obviously.

Plus do not be misled that the last 30 years, since the GB method of guidance went into dictatorial power hidden in compromised council, has had a progressive trend of stumbling policy and information disseminated in external print and web sources. That is the jackhammer they use so that people discount the entire JW ministry from IBSA days of the International Bible Students Association, and it even calls into question the initial public ministry of prophecy revealing God’s original Kingdom establishment warning AND the first UN related placement of the 1919 League of Nations. And that led successfully to the exposure of what the United Nations meant as well, as prophecy leading to te climax confrontation once those world rulership systems complete for Armageddon war.

What is being sidetracked by this current Bethel subversion cabal is that the UN system must also complete in these 3rd UN manifestation of 1990 leading to the 4t of the future, some years from now. The UN schematic is NOT the end all system, just an “image” of a real world government totality as “scarlet wildbeast” 8th King, and must too complete and make final sovereign claims worldwide. JWs of 1950 did not understand globalization in general, and as a basis of world government completion. Globalization culmination is the main “gathering of nations” means and power of Rev16:13-16. As you may be aware the modern internet is full of examples of globalization of finance, government, military and other forms of multi-national “power and authority” (Rev17:12-18) currently in formative action, and even elites are speaking of these things. The point is Bethel does not comment on 8th King globalization now in millions of web documents and videos, as even te world is becoming aware of the need for a final drawn out cycle of around a decade to complete the process to enough degree to found a real world government.

Bethel is keeping most JWs in a mental state of globalism awareness of 1980 and 1990, and NOT making the connection advanced globalism theory is how internationalist government is forming in many signal developments or statements, and is far advanced since that 1990 UN placement signaled the real King North as 8th King, by overcoming the USSR national bloc, symbolized the power had fully tilted to globalist advantage irreversibly. That is why God describes the 8t King as “the king” by Daniel 11:36, because now the full advantage is towards international scale government as the final King “North” ascendant system.

Do not doubt the original JW ministry was indeed a reality that in time the 1-2 UN system would have to confront a Kingdom of God tat ALSO made initial announcement AT THE SAME TIME. And the 1-2-3-4 UN progression when we include Daniel 11:30-45 Dan8:25 and Daniel 12 (12:11) accurately, will be the continuum to that confrontation, and JWs will be in time recovered as many that can be, to make that FINAL announcement as the Rev8-11 final fulfillment sequence is where that is all leading.

It means as the world sees the UN make more completion announcements wen this fully tips to irreversible, te UN completion as world government is like a way to monitor how close Armageddon really is, because it must complete and make sovereign claim BEFORE God’s Kingdom will also make sovereign claims contrary, and will complete as per Matt24:29-31 parallel Rev 11:7-12 in the 8th King’s face. Thus te original truth in JWs is true, it just also needs to complete.

And even when Christ arrives as Daniel 12:7 (Rev11:2-3) 1260 days ends into Daniel 12:11 1290 days, it will not yet be the end. Christ will complete his own ministry as per Matt10:23, and will make a sheep and goat final separation FIRST, prior to final conquest. Thus since the “two witnesses” is an anointed completion ministry as well, and some JWs and others brought in to recovery will make this announcement finale, many people will be the intended audience, and people need to make the sheep right side of the separation their goal. In the end, it is Christ’s blood (Rev7:9-17), that will save those wit faith and making their desire full repentance to live under Messianic Kingdom world government rather than UN world government, and at tat time that is the only two powers tat will actually be in power. The nations must become captured as subservient to King North as “Egypt” symbolizes in Dan11:42-43. And it culminates as Rev16:12-16 and Rev17:11-18.

Thus this information is not “high pressure” yet, it takes a decade or so by Dan8:14 and Dan12:7 parallel timing of Rev11:2-3 to get to 8th King completion and Christ’s initial manifestation to gather in final 144000 (1Thess4:17) and the earth sheep (Rev14:14-16) at that Matt24:29-31 inception. Thus do NOT let the anxiousness they mislead JWs with, with premature over-simplified expectations, to take better advantage of them in the start of this final cycle affect you in that way. It must proceed over that decade to a great world recovery, and what is coming is NOT the end, you will see everything the prophecy already describes that Bethel is covering up.

That is why they want JWs like this with the world in anxious expectation, it serves a purpose of increased vulnerability not present if JWs knew the full prophetic truth that it must drag on a while to all the foretold culminations. And in fact as per the world-war to world-government formula, a recovery period is created by the 8th King to make that final presentation amidst a period of world hope called “a freedom from care” in the Daniel 8:25 parallel to UN 4th placement “stand”.

In time it is guaranteed as well God must clean out the Bethel worldwide system subverters by super-natural means of Christ’s 2Thess2:8 final fulfillment temple cleansing. In human form Christ made two temple visits at the beginning and the end of his ministry, and that is the pattern also repeating in 1914 as the beginning of the start of the final ministry, and soon to cleanse the anointed and JWs for the start of the final ministerial portion.

Now I can tell you if we had truly anointed men at my age now, 10 and 20 years ago looking at prophecy and world developments, this could have all been explained years ago. But an apostasy as signal is required as per prophecy as the JW ministry in it’s final “1/3” (Rev8:12) also corrupts into a condition of needed purification a final time. Of course the Kingdom, Christ and all 144000 with God are the replacement system to come and that cannot be corrupted or compromised or overpowered.

(Zechariah 14:5) And Jehovah my God will certainly come, all the holy ones being with him.

We have to merely complete the final mission and cycle, and by prophecy guaranteed and God and Christ it will complete as foretold.

(Matthew 5:17-18) “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill; 18 for truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one particle of a letter to pass away from the Law by any means and not all things take place.

So although you are getting like an advanced Bile study now, that it relates exactly to the original JW truth, means anything in JW past about Daniel 12 and 1914-1926 triple period is the same thing in preview form. There was a tribulation principle in WW1 while a ministry was going fourth, there was a Kingdom announcement in preliminary form but finalized in meaning quickly after, and there was a UN related first manifestation. That will all repeat to final UN manifestation and finalization of God truth and completion of things He said He will complete by Christ, like all 144000 and full Messianic Kingdom and temple completion; (Zech4:6-9).

Thus as per God’s wisdom in the first patterns and the replication upon tem to help JWs easily understand in time, anything said here relates and reinforces the original patterns, rather than try to uproot and disregard them as many are doing, including Bethel in an engineered form of undermining while they act like Kingdom representatives and temple priests.

Do NOT be misled by the Bethel pretty picture. It is hiding evil men in purposeful “set in opposition” defiance to God as clearly self lifted over everyone as per 2Thess2:1-4. And in an identifiable apostasy and lawlessness central council to direct it all. They will be removed in the end of the “evening” desolation cycle of Dan8:14 as Zech3:1-5.


Do you have a hint at what the “climatic event” will be? How serious is this? Are there lives at stake, or is it something far less dramatic and possibly unnoticeable to most of the world?


I have speculations, and also prophetic clues. I feel their ultimate goal is to try to destroy the whole org financially as much as possible, which will destroy it organizationally. How far they get remains to be seen. Dan8:13 is a “trampling” that must account for the UN NGO transgression, so it will be severe and recognizable. At the very least they want to delay JW understanding as long as possible. But God will also be involved, requires the Dan8:13 desolation as per prophecy and 1Pet4:17 signal, BUT is not destroying JWs, just allowing the 8th King to create the context of desolation and purifications and perform a phase of that “trampling” soon, that goes on a little while. Of course JWs will have no idea what is going on, as per Betel plan.

As per prophecy Christ WILL be covertly but directly active in this recovery as per Rev9 final fulfillment parallels to Dan8:14 “morning” of enlightenment, as the “abyss” is opened from Dan8:14 “evening” desolation phase darkness. And it parallels final fulfillment 2Thess2:8 of Christ removing the “man of lawlessness” as the purification parallels of Mal3:1-5 and Zech3:1-5. Plus Rev 8:1-6 is a parallel of this purification and how we know it BEGINS the Rev8-11 final cycle. (The www.templelijah.wordpress.com  “temple judgment” section explains the proof and rationale of all that in some depth and basics).

The 1914 preview fulfillments of those prophecies are now to repeat in final form. That is why God founded the awareness of the first cycle of Dan12 and Revelation, so JWs can in time understand the completion cycle is upon the same foundation, as prophecies and principles, but of course to full culmination of all elements. The 8th King completion cycle is what is beginning, and God’s Messianic Kingdom of Christ is also foretold to complete all 144000 in spirit form in this cycle at Matt24:29-31 initial manifestation of Christ and that “gathering” of 2Thess2:1 (1Thess4:17) for real. And as noted that is as the tribulation period ends as per Matt24:29, so Christ becomes overt in manifestation as also the 8th King is completed. (Dan12:11; as Dan11:45)

I feel by prophecy of Dan11:42-43 implications of financial meaning, a larger overall world development cycle starting will be the context of the JW Bethel events. Whether it is one event or more I do not know. How the financial ball of national debt tremors will be activated into worse developments may be on it’s own, or propelled by an event, such as 911 propelled the “global war on terror” and the pretext need to develop all this national debt that must be ultimately related to trillions in war expenses, of course they are not going to tell everyone about it. Thus a possibility as war or terror event(s) or natural disaster could accelerate the cycle. And since they have built 1000+ bases worldwide since 911 in the “global war”, or world war on terror, these things have a use for the final cycle. Daniel 11:40 is what the “global war on terror” is fulfilling as a continuation of post 1990 globalist UN missions hidden in national wars. It itself is a world war as “global war” in Daniel 11:29 principle of uniqueness of deployment.

Plus this will provide a handy cover up away from the real US and EU globalist led impetus of the true financial condition of those national powers. They, in my opinion, will need a distraction and big event of some sort to blame the collapse they created on. Plus in 8th King planning the last defiant national powers can start to be aligned for full 8th King subservience in Iran, China and Russia. And however that may be done, by Rev17:12-18 it is guaranteed in time they will all become eventually voluntarily transferring national “power and authority” to 8th King world government power. But it may take a world war and or tribulation to get the final pieces in the 8th King full puzzle.

But it is NOT the “end of the world” as JWs are misled to believe, but it will be tribulatory, yet must recover into 8th King final world government a number of years later (Matt24:29 break into “peace and security” and “freedom from care”). JW current theology is misled with delusion to toss JWs into the start of the cycle, and them thinking it is the end is of course very disadvantageous. It allows JWs to be totally lost for the first couple years. And thus there are simply too many little hints of what is really going on that form a big red flag once we put all the little hints together, and have prophecy as the main guide supported by world events and Bethel lawless evidence in pinnacle UN NGO form especially related to the 8th King enemy system.

I know the 8th King does not need total world dysfunction, just enough to create the tribulatory atmosphere for 8th King resolution to present world government with a full worldwide peace effect like 10 years from JW desolation start. It will be tribulatory but as per Matt24:29 and Dan8:25 “freedom from care”, that tribulation is engineered and will end, it itself cannot be “the end of the world” for a number of reasons already given in prophecy. And the 8th King plans to rule the world, not destroy it, just certain elements in it, like Babylon the Great (and the “two witnesses”) at the END of that cycle as Rev16:12-16 parallel Rev17:12-18 and Rev11 finality (Rev11:7-15).

Saving BTG for the end of course will aid the “world peace” illusion of 1Thess5:1-3, and will aid national recovery with enormous hard assets. The 8th King is bringing in “new world order”, and only using chaos to establish that order, not to destroy all the world, yet it will be destructive for the coercive effects of Rev13:16-18 principles.

It has to be severe enough in the JW org end, to fully wake up JWs that something is not right in a very direct way. When the initial event context goes from day one to a full year of no Armageddon, over that period and longer of course JWs will be bewildered but will start to wonder what is really going on, and as long as the Bethel lawlessness power is in control, more misleading and diversion will occur until God removes them in His own way. There must be a period of total darkness on JWs as per Dan8:14 “evening” starting phase of temple judgment. It parallels the darkness of Rev9:1-2 abyss, and the Christ recovery “morning” phase of true enlightenment as to what is really going on symbolized by that Dan8:14, 26 “morning” and the Rev9 “abyss” being opened up for a renewed world ministry FINAL Kingdom proclamation of “little scroll” full truth and the 1260 days of a final, second “two witnesses” JW ministry, as only JWs have the original meaning that must merely be completed.

When one prays and reads these Bible prophecy sequences, one will see by Bethel’s own fruitage actions and reproach effect, and deception effects, what they are really covering up –  it is all already in these prophecies. Plus the principle of replication is common in all Bible recorded judgments. Like the centuries of Christendom’s apostasy led to a clarification in 1914, that following century has similar but modified apostate processes now active at Bethel being identified as per prophecy that also precede the final judgment like a signal (Thess2:3) indicating as a final cycle, not the JW expected slam dunk. What will get a slam dunk is the Bethel system. (And even that can drag on a couple years; Hos6:1-3 as Dan8:14 timing).

And as per divine wisdom the final cycle that Daniel 8:14 timed judgment leads to as 1Pet4:17 and Rev8:1-6 will be signaled and already known to JWs as Daniel 12 replicates to Daniel 12:11 4th “disgusting thing” placement. And that will provide progression of Dan 8:14 timing to Dan12:7 1260 days final warning timing, so we know what is coming starts the final cycle, it does not end it for a number of years. What non-anointed, anti-Christian and defective Bethel is trying to actually accomplish is the premature cessation of the final anointed ministry before it even gets rolling. And since what I covered here is but an outline of just some of the main red flags, the real totality of prophecy indicated in that final cycle, like all of Hosea, Micah and most of Isaiah that deal with Israel’s initial 740 BCE judgment are full of modern day Bethel hints, and details of the final cycle reinforcing each other and connecting in Daniel 12’s overall structured framework. Final fulfillment Rev8-11 and Rev15-16 are also structured sequences that must repeat that will parallel the seven trumpets and plagues as temple announcements in the trumpets to JWs, and a world plague context as Rev16, all going this time in 1-7 sequence, especially marked by the first four manifestations of each, as it becomes known to anointed, and every other JW making the temple judgment.

In effect this next 8th King cycle activation also activates the first four Rev16 plagues as world context events in symbol. (Hag2:7 final fulfillment).

This Revelation 8 parallel to the temple judgment and purification, as symbolized by the “fire of the altar” (Isa6:6-8; Zech3:2; Mal3:1-4) must lead to a full clarification of some of what is covered here, to restore a cleansed and final ministry as “little scroll” is given JWs approved (Zech3:6-7) from God as foretold with final Kingdom announcement prior to guaranteed arrival of Christ and Kingdom 144000 completion. A number of years after Rev9-10 recovery deploys as Rev 11, a final 8th King in completed form as per Rev11:7 (parallel Dan11:44; 8:25) will make a final attack on that final ministry being fully completed (Rev11:7) which attack leads into the actual Christ manifestation. But that will be after plenty of divine warning to come forth from the JW recovery. Thus the coming Dan8:13 “trampling” beginning this overall cycle is eventually for purification purposes soon, and in time over a number of years, leads to the Revelation 11:2-3 1260 days that parallels Dan12:7 1260 days as the same events.

God and Christ will have to delay the 8th King covertly to release JWs from the temple desolation minus all the Bethel liar cabal and factions, as per the purification Christ performs, not humans, so will include covert angelic aid for the purpose of recovering the JW ministry with enough time for a final Kingdom announcement, not full destruction at that time ending the temple judgment desolation. (So the JW desolation will need to be big enough to provide a context Christ covertly enters to end that decreed time period of “evening, and found in other prophecy; (Hos1:4-7), concerning the initial judgment of 1Pet4:17)

The purpose of God is to fulfill signal prophecy as 2Thess2:3 is Zech3:11-3 related and leads to the Zech3:4-5 purification in the temple judgment of Dan8:13-14, and Bethel lawlessness and transgression is the target. Of course a world seen JW judgment will also get world attention. And in time the explanation of course will be quite shocking as to what it will imply at that time, that Christ is approximately within a decade of initial manifestation of Matt24:29-31 at Rev11:7-12 timing, after the 1260 days completes into the symbolic 3.5 days of the two witnesses death state. That final 8th King attack well after the coming JW temple desolation and recovery, actually aids the completion of the 144000. (That is why the “disturbing reports” of Dan11:44 is te “little scroll” deployed as Rev 10-11, and the Daniel 11:44 final attack is the attack of Rev11:7 to try to shut up that final warning ministry, and it will as per Rev11:7 AFTER it fully completes finally “as a witness to the nations” (Matt24:14);

The fact the bankrupt and non-existent USSR cannot fulfill Dan11:42-43 means a financial logic of national subservience to 8th King world financial, investment and monetary system must aid the final globalization process – and that globalization cycle is what is beginning next in these overall world intrigues designed to compromise the national powers financially and economically to aid the process. (As seen in the huge national debts globally) And that in itself indicates more time is needed for an 8th King completion cycle. And thus Daniel 11:42-45 to activate in Daniel 11:42-43 soon, leads over some years to Daniel 12 live and in real-time so Daniel 12:1 “during that time” must be at some time point in that Daniel 11:42-45 progression, live and real-time. That is another indication Daniel 12 has a final cycle. Another strong indication is that the 1914-1918 cycle was 1260 days, or 3.5 years as 3.5 times. And that means only half of the JW known “seven times” is currently fulfilled as 1260 days, 3.5 times.

In the principle of the 2520 years as “seven times” in JW theology, 2520 days as “seven times” is completed by this last “two witnesses” cycle of Rev11:2-3 1260 days to result from this JW recovery. Being 1260 day Kingdom birth warning ministry in 1914-1918, and a final 1260 days in the near future as a Kingdom completion final warning, completing the required “seven times” as 2520 days as 1260 days + 1260 days finale. (Dan4:16; Luke21:20). That original “seven times” as 360 years seven times as 2520 years is a basis of JW principle of the “appointed times of the nations” from 607 BCE to 1914 CE. It was a big part of JW understanding and still is to some JWs. It is just in a final Rev11:2-7 form of “trampling” and counting as days, since it is in the “last days” or the Lord’s Day (Rev1:10) that it is taking place in final symbolic form as the nations resist the JW Christian original and final “little scroll” message of Kingdom of God meaning. It merely replicates 1260 days twice, as that period ended in 1914 approximately starting the Rev11:2 “holy city” cycle in “seven times” as 3.5 times of that 1260 day 1914-1918 period. Thus JWs understand the principle, but not that it also applies to Revelation 11:2-3 needing to replicate to usher in the Kingdom completion with ALSO a final completing 1260 day cycle. And that is final, Christ will show up after that final 1260 day period, because now the “Jerusalem” “holy city” “trampling” requirement will be met.

And JWs used to, and some still do, understand this fully correlates with our original truth patterns and principles fully.

That 1260 day ending begins the Daniel 12:11 finality of BOTH the “constant feature” removal as that Rev11:7 final 8th King attack on the “holy city” as the ministry that will have been recovered from current JW subversions by Bethel, AND the 4th UN placement also at Daniel 12:11 replication occurs as full 8th King world government during the time of tat final attack. So all these things indicate a final cycle is required, but being sold to JWs as a premature end by Bethel diversion.

Thus it has to be noticeable at some point to the world, because the JW temple judgment is a global signal as described here and in prophecy. It indicates the first four plagues are the context of the first four trumpets. The 8th King goal and Bethel as well, is to make sure JWs never complete this ministerial requirement. That is also why God and Christ will make certain a JW recovery will occur as per Zech3:4-9, as Revelation 9 final fulfillment. And it is why a divine intervention that will be more or less covert and unseen by most people must occur, or JWs could be organizationally fully wiped out. As per Hos1:7, Isa31:8-9; Mic5:6-7, this 8th King attack will be cut short to create that recovery. The 8th King is not destroyed just limited in unseen ways to provide te JW recovery period.

I feel it will be serious when the 8th King truly starts to attack the Bethel organization because they want to remove the ministerial means of this proclamation completely. (Even the first 2 UN announcements JWs explained correctly as per prophecy) And as we see it is already aided internal to Bethel, by a JW “self fulfilling prophecy” being engineered by theological prematurity to aid the desolation with a well believed JW theology actually being used and applied  prematurely and out of sync with world globalization and prophetic reality. Thus the enemy system is ensured of a couple years total JW bewilderment when this begins and handy revered false-prophets at Bethel to explain away the delay when eventually it drags on a year, ten two as per Dan8:14; Hos6:1-3; Isa37:30-32.

We see in Bethel deceptions the perfect way to cover up the temple desolation requirement for transgression related to UN adultery (Dan8:13), as something entirely different in the JW mind as Dan11:44.

Thus in such a state of confusion and excitement, and during it, they can then concentrate on trying to capture as many JWs as possible, like that article in WT 11/15/13 pg. 20, par. 17, statement #3 to the effect JWs should obey the organizational directives without question.

Thus I feel the clues are ominous what they intend to do. And now even valid truth whistleblowers are of course viewed by the average JW as “apostates” and not to be listened to, so even the rare warning of what is really going on at Bethel as per prophecy is resisted and ignored and removed from JWs. Many things indicate now how JWs are being set-up to trust the enemy at Bethel just acting anointed and so on. We can easily imagine when we know all this why the external 8th King anti-JW operations will then direct a heavy attempt to fully silence all JWs for any chance of explaining the real cycle that will then be in full action. They want to abort the mission of the “two witnesses” even before it begins.

2014 Speculation

Since the clues in prophecy do not indicate a start date, just what it means when it starts and conditions of apostasy in organized fashion that lead to it (Dan11:32a as 2Thess2:3), this is a speculation of mine aided by the theological setup now in promotion by Bethel. 1914 is a very important date in reality, not because it is 1914 itself, but because it ended a long known period of “seven times” that is a valid decree. And it just happened to see a rival human world government be presented in schematic form an international forum as the 1919 League of Nations, after a world war tribulation principle. And that fulfilled Rev13:11-15, and Dan12 first cycle preview.

But for misleading purposes, 1914 I speculate can be used in centennial form in 2014 with a similar organizational attack development that could then use disjointed replication examples from JW theology to aid the illusion it is the end of it all. It would also aid the illusion, even in desolation, that the JW system is in good standing, and in a final cycle leading to deliverance and “paradise” day one. Not as a beginning of a decade long cycle, but just the end period reinforced by the 1914 to 2014 connection present in the JW mind, that this could speculatively use for illusional purposes. It would just add to Bethel credibility as they present that attack as 1914 related and Daniel 11:44, diverted as well as the start of the attack on Babylon the Great. (BTG). I see it tempting for Bethel to try to do this because it is so well imprinted in the JW mind.

As this is my speculation in the timing, it would merely add to the illusion in a strong way in my opinion. They could then use timing examples to explain why it has not ended, when the desolation goes into months then years. Because it will not be ending, they just want to cover up the duration of the operation and then they can just abandon JWs or get removed, and let JWs figure it out later. It is a delaying ploy well founded in use of theological expectations in error. That they plan to at some point to use Daniel 11:44 as a hoax prematurely applied to cover up Daniel 11:42-43 prelude events, is shown to be the whole reason to retain the USSR error advanced to Daniel 11:43, and keep JW expecting Daniel 11:44 next, and premature with reality and who it is as 8th King actually active in all of Daniel 11:30-45. That it starts with “God’s house” is certain at 1Peter4:17:

(1 Peter 4:17) For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God.

Thus covering that up with also a premature BTG attack allows the religious context to be explained as it will actually be an attack on Bethel over a couple years as per prophecy, but may have notable incept events. Either way they are well prepared to divert JW attention to strongly believed impressions that will not identify the actual attack as the “trampling” of Daniel 8:13 for UN NGO “transgression causing desolation”, but will divert attention to other expected prophecy that is not activating at this time. And as we see, in reality all their prophetic claims are disproved by details in prophecy they ignore on purpose.

Just keep studying older JW truth, and keep in mind in principle it must repeat a final Kingdom completion ministry as this all resolves. If you have any questions feel free to ask them, as I can do this now and hopefully later, it is from a claimant anointed and I do not doubt my validity as such, so it is a responsibility I have to get as much of this out now as possible, and I fully know the original truth of Christ and the brothers and sisters and also the replication understanding. But in time an anointed full recovery must also result from all this opposition even internal at Bethel. Ultimately the anointed are the first target to shut up, and even now they are doing a good job of it.

But that is not permanent nor is Bethel’s lawlessness. (Zech3:1-4).



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