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Why Have JWs gone so Bad?

Are things REALLY going very good for JWs and the JW “Organ”?

Did you know that other than Islam controversy, JWs are the number one controversial religion on Earth due, not to the “Kingdom message” alone, but due to hypocritical scandals added to the mix now successfully UNDERMINING the message and reproaching God and Christ?

All accidental and just typical religious corruption?

NO NO NO!!! (Dan11:32a; Dan8:12)

There are now about 10 million people ENGROSSED in the JW scandal and damage control on both sides of the battle lines for all kinds of different reasons.

There are another 10 million paying marginal attention, and another 10 million paying even less attention but they have caught a few things.


See, God is not pleased with this mess. (Zech3:1-3) It distracts from Christ’s work and message, plain and simple.

And now that God has a lot of people’s attention by first allowing this to happen in the first place, read 2Thess2:11-12, NOW he can let the Bethell Timebomb of Sins, Murder, and Child Sacrifice to the Modern Molech Molestors EXPLODE like you ain’t never seen:

1. An apostate religion implode globally by divine judgment. (Dan8:13-14 “trampling”; Isa28)

2. A global context that will quickly be known by many as the “tribulation of those days” PHASE of the “Great Tribulation” starting at global scale in earnest (Rev8:1-12; Rev16:1-19), including the required final world war “sword stroke”= Daniel 11:41 on JW “decoration” and Daniel 11:42-43 globalist financial takeover of the US, EU and the world nation-state system.

3. And ALL of it, even this JW signal apostasy is a PROPHECY ALREADY ACTIVE!

As big as the JW Org downfall will be dragging on the “evening” 3.19 years of Daniel 8:13-14 MINIMUM, it will PALE in comparison to the world war and economic collapse context that will also have activated globally!


When the smoke clears and what can be used of some Jehovah’s witnesses repentant and spared and wandering (Zech13:7) out of the smoke (Rev9) start to emerge to the “morning” of Daniel 8:14,26 REALITY OF THE SITUATION, the global signal attention of the global signal Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses will be known by a BILLION people and it will turn into 3 BILLION+ people by these final massive actions of “trampling” the JW “temple” before the eyes of the world, right on CNN in fact.

This GLOBAL ATTENTION is for a reason.

It will fulfill Daniel 8:13-14 and Rev8 will be ACTIVATED in the first trumpet temple judgment encapsulated parallel! And the rest of the trumpets 2-4 will give news of the Bethel apostasy and its source as the 5th trumpet is the recovery!

It will have the initial 3.19 years of 1150 days of Daniel 8:13-14 for proof. It will have the events of Daniel 8:13 and Zech3:1-5 for proof too, and the rest of the prophecy of them seven trumpets will START to be explained AS this ministry is CLEANSED and recovered, and God will throw the GB heads on pikes into the fires as the first peace offering to all their victims, the ones still alive screaming for vengeance on them dirty UN-toting vipers!

The JW Org downfall will be the FINAL CYCLE INCEPT SIGNAL!

And it will lead to the final warning and open salvation invitation as the world continues to head towards complete WORLD GOVERNMENT 8TH KING completion!

THAT is why God has let this sh*tbomb of Bethel HYPOCRISY get as bad as it has:

TO GET YOUR ATTENTION!!!!! for what is to follow.

And to add a few billion people to the list of jaw-dropped onlookers so WE CAN ALL PREPARE for the final events to lead to Christ arrival which shall be triggered by complete world government (Rev13:3; rev17:8-13; Dan11:44-45; Dan8:25) and their final “world peace” pitch to help sell 666 deceptions (1Thess5:1-3) as the final warning must precede that event by 1260 days of that final global warning. (Rev10:5-11; Rev11:1-7)

That is where the desolation of the apostate JW organ is heading. And it will take a good 15 years to fully unfold.



Daniel 8:13-14 will prove itself on the apostate JW Organization as the global visible epicenter of the temple judgment it is.

Foretold Apostasy Always Precedes a Global Epic Transition—FIVE Examples

Foretold Apostasy Always Precedes a Global Epic Transition

1. Apostasy precedes a world power transition, this one into world government.

2. Secondly, a treason as big as UN NGO Bethel’s, and an apostasy as severe as this one, will require a JUDGMENT to rectify. (Dan8:13-14) Thus an apostasy this serious WILL ALREADY BE IN THE PROPHECY. (The one Bethel now conceals at Daniel 8:11-14,23 and Daniel 11:30-35,41, Zechariah 3:1-3)

Apostasy and Judgment Precedes a Transition In Global Power FIVE Times:

Apostasy is revealed before and as a great world power transition is also emerging and it is marked by a judgment:

1. Assyrian Ascension: 

In [apostate] Israel in the 8th century BCE, when [Assyrian world power transitioned in], and sacked IDd apostate Israel in Samaria and Bethel cities and region [as a divine foretold judgment marker] of Hosea 1:4-7 and Isaiah 28 (among other warning prophecy); this apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power emerged for the 1st time.

(Isaiah, Hosea, Micah, Amos all record that apostasy and judgment announcement before it hit.)

2. Babylon Ascension: 

In [apostate] Jerusalem in the 7th century BCE, when [Babylonian world power transitioned in], as a [foretold judgment marker] allowed a total sacking of Jerusalem and all Israel; this apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power emerged for the 2nd time.

(Jeremiah and Ezekiel fully document the apostasy and the warning)

3. Roman Ascension: 

In [apostate] Jerusalem in the first century CE, when [Roman world power transitioned in] and sacked Jerusalem and all Israel as a [divine foretold judgment marker]; and this apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power emerged for the 3rd time.

(Now we know Daniel outlined this briefly. But Christ, all the apostles and 1st century Christians were warning of this judgment.)

The point being a SIGNAL APOSTASY, SEEN BY SOME, WARNED IN PROPHECY and from some, ALL develop [[with]] [a major world power transformation].

And in modern times, the pattern is certain again:

4. Anglo-American 7th King Ascension: 

And in Christendom [apostasy] in 1914-1919, when the “Bible Students” came out summarizing the apostasy exposure of Christendom, coming forth, as BOTH the [7th King world power transitioned in fully] and [as the 8th King “image” was first presented] and began emerging with and after WW1. This apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power emerged for the 4th time. (As before it was all foretold, and it all had a notable APOSTATE judgment marker to know what it means in the overall development)

That is no coincidence, and by then it was a common pattern. It took them a little time to recognize the specific world power transformation emerging as official in Anglo-American [nationalist] alliance, AND the [globalist] developmental nucleus of world government in that League of Nations presentation.

Today—World Government: 

5. 8th King World Government Ascension: 

Bethel apostasy is NOW emerging, with its own DELUSIONAL “the end is near!” smokescreen (2Thess2:1-2) so the final cycle also gearing up to transition into world government, can be concealed from JWs, while a great global transition, AGAIN, the BIG ONE, is clearly forming with SIGNS in the system itself as per Luke 21:25. This NOW CERTAIN apostasy-to-judgment-to-new world power will now emerge for the last time into 8TH KING WORLD GOVERNMENT along with the sacking of Bethel.

In ALL cases, the world power coming in, sacks the apostate system.

BETHEL APOSTASY IS NOW THE FINAL SIGNAL OF THE SAME PATTERN. The same guys behind the UN NGO, the 8th King planners, is who will also sack Bethel in the future, hence Daniel 8:13. And from then, the 8th King will “ascend” into the next global power system.

The Bethel apostasy is therefore just one more of those “signs in” the JW “lights”, in their “sun” at Bethel, hence Revelation 8:10-11 “fallen star” clearly applying NOW to developments inside of fallen APOSTATE Bethel. APOSTATE Bethel is who is fallen from the “holy covenant” (Dan11:30b,32a), that that relative “they” at anointed claimant Bethel, were paramount in IDing for our time (long ago now, 1914 to 1969+/-), as at one time a genuine anointed Christian “reformation” was being summarized, BEFORE that “star” fell into [signal apostasy], now called Wormwood Bethel.

It is the 2Thess2:3-4 apostasy that has to be globally judged, “revealed” as fully globally exposed, BEFORE the real “day of Jehovah” can fully manifest as in 2Thess2:1-2 premature delusion of that “day”, that Bethel now uses to divert the JW mind with over excitation as if “the end is next brothers! the end is near! forget all else, it is the end we tell you, the end!!! Forget to look at prophecy (WT3/15/15), it IS THE END!!!

THAT is the CENTRAL JW DELUSION AT BETHEL, that is the 2Thess2:1-2 warning Paul was giving by inspiration, to NOT be fooled by this hype; BECAUSE the APOSTASY AND MAN OF LAWLESSNESS AT BETHEL, has to be revealed first, THEY are the source of that KEY SIGNAL subterfuge.

So it is ALL the same thing, again, and it will form all the main points again, hence Rev10:11 eventually will emerge as “you must prophesy AGAIN” with regard to that “little scroll” previewed from the days the JW vessel, was actually guided by anointed Christians, and they did EXPOSE the enemy system at the same time, for a while—but no more.

When Did UN NGO Bethel Placed The Disgusting Thing of Matthew 24:15?

When UN NGO Bethel Placed The Disgusting Thing

1. Remember this big United Nations post Cold War, “the USSR has surrendered”, third presentation “new world order” hoopla up at the UN General Assembly?

2. Did anyone notice is was also in the UN NGO Bethel “Awake!” publication of 1991 to also co-promote that third official global-manifestation of the UN related “disgusting thing” since 1919, and 1945, in 1990?

“” A few days later, President George Bush of the United States addressed the UN General Assembly. The changes he saw inspired him to say: “Not since 1945 have we seen the real possibility of using the United Nations as it was designed—as a center for international collective security.” He said this because “the United Nations reacted with such historic unity and resolve” to the Persian Gulf crisis. “For the first time, the U.N. Security Council is beginning to work as it was designed to work.” He also said: “The United Nations can help bring about a new day” if its members ‘leave terrible weapons behind.’ By doing this, they can complete the “historic movement towards a new world order and a long era of peace.”””

—Awake! September 11, 1991; pp. 3-4 What Is Happening at the United Nations?


1. Notice how that 1990 global-placement of the “disgusting thing” 3rd UN presentation and its “new world order” mantra was conveniently echoed in that Awake! issue, just like Bethel was a “disgusting thing” annex of the UN General Assembly global platform? (search WT Library CD for “new world order”, see 70 more NWO refs)

2. Notice too, how this proceeded then and to this day, with [[no comment]] from UN NGO Bethel, whatsoever, that a major prophecy had fulfilled in regard to the UN 3rd step of 4, to world government? [1]

3. Notice how though, it was recognizable enough to the WTBTS to covertly align Bethel to INSTEAD become a UN partnered, official UN “Non-Governmental Organization”, basically a UN organization UN NGO to GLOBALLY CO-PROMOTE THIS 3RD UN EVENT?

4. Do you “TAKE NOTE” of anything ODD here in all these events CO-DEVELOPING [simultaneously] in the world, at UN Bethel, and in prophecy?

Bethel echoed and repeated a 3rd UN placement statement from before the UN General Assembly, TAKING PART IN THAT GLOBAL “PLACEMENT”—while saying NOTHING concerning that 3rd UN events as propehcy.

Is not that a little weird?

More Questions:

1. Think that is all “by and by” and insignificant, no problem, everything is final now with Jehovah’s witness?

2. Think that it is all non-prophetic revived UN activity and globally of no special note as Bethel has swept it all under their scarlet rug?

3. Do you really think God is going to let it slide because Bethel is so “faithful” and fancy and merely plagiarizes the past to continue to dupe JWs into the UN?

Think Again

1. Thus when Jesus spoke this “disgusting thing” riddle for modern times crucial “discernment”:

(Matthew 24:15-16) “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.  

2. The greatest “discernment” the “reader” can “use” is knowing which ” disgusting thing that causes desolation”, ” as spoken of through Daniel the prophet ” was Daniel referring to in modern times? WHICH Daniel prophecy is to now be applicable, of the three “disgusting thing” possibilities at Daniel 9:26-27, Daniel 12:11, and Daniel 11:31?

Let Us See

1. Daniel 9:27 applied to the Roman 66 CE “disgusting thing” that signaled the desolation of Jerusalem in 70 CE.

2. Daniel 12:11 applied to the League of Nations of 1919.

3. It looks like Daniel 11:31 and that Bethel UN NGO a “placing the disgusting thing” themselves in their own UN NGO laced JW publications deserves a closer look, does it not?

Discern This

1. The “discernment” is Daniel 11:30-31 fulfilled in 1990 at that Bethel silenced 3rd United Nations presentation in “New World Order” promotional mode.

2. That is when Bethel just so happened to join that concealed 3rd UN presentation as UN NGO partnered co-promoters using Jehovah’s witnesses, at first UNknowingly, to help spread the UN 3rd placement “New World Order”, or “world government”, mantra as present in the above. In the process, Bethel also conceals that King North is 8th King activity:

(Daniel 11:30-31) “And he will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. 31 And there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature].

(Daniel 11:30-31) “And he (8th King/King North) will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively (produces a successful operation Dan8:12b); and he (8th King) will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. (anointed core defection at Bethel aids internal 8th King access) 31 (Bethel subversion:) And there will be arms that will stand up (at Bethel; Dan11:41; Luke21:20), proceeding from him (8th King planners);  and they (collusion) will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature]. (3rd UN placement 1990:) “And they (team effort) will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation. (3rd UN placement, 1990; UN NGO, 1991, at Bethel; Matt24:15; Dan8:13 “transgression causing desolation”);

3. Was Daniel lying? No. THAT is the 3rd UN related UN NGO “disgusting thing” Bethel “stands” its own version of in JW ministry and “constant feature”, while concealing the actual prophecy that fulfilled in 1990, and further fulfills in Bethel’s apostasy, [[also]] “standing where they ought not” as claimant anointed Christians, in good standing, which they ARE NOT: They are the final APOSTASY.

(Matthew 24:15-16) “Therefore, when you catch sight of the (UN NGO; Dan11:31) disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet (modern Dan11:31 “disgusting thing that causes desolation” as parallel of Dan8:13 “transgression causing desolation”), standing in a holy place (in the JW “constant feature” ministry as UN NGO), (let the reader use discernment,) 16 then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains. (Because the JW Bethel desolation judgment for that UN NGO “transgression causing desolation” is near; 1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14; Rev8:3-5);

4. Now we also know when the UN NGO Bethel “wildbeast” partnered apostasy also forms to recognizable today, and that the real “King North” is the 8th King—which Bethel also diverts attention away from by the maintained “USSR is King North” delusion—while “King North” is actually the 8th King promoting “two horned wildbeast” architects, and their 8th King “world government” project, that they eventually intend to place as a full world government (Dan11:45), hence 8th King “King North”, are now INSIDE of Bethel’s leadership “leading” all this by “smooth as silk” JW slickster rationale:

(Daniel 11:32) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant (at Bethel), he (8th King/King North) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. (The Bethel “smooth words” 8th King cover-up in the JW publications is part of the smoothly justified apostasy);

5. Daniel is no “conspiracy theorist”, he by God exposes an active “man of lawlessness” apostate conspiracy in the Bethel leadership as foretold, now infiltrated into Jehovah’s witnesses:

(Daniel 11:41) He (8th King) will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration (infiltrates the Bethel ministry internally), and there will be many [people] that will be made to stumble. (Matt24:15; Luke21:20 signal development present now at Bethel; Stumbling people is also the lawless Bethel subversion goal. Parallels Daniel 8:11-13 and Daniel 11:30-35 events and meaning);

6. And this is why that “apostasy” in Daniel 11:32, is this “apostasy” at Bethel, that rather than be the doomsdayer-Bethel “end of the world next brothers!” (2Thess2:1-2), must instead be exposed in the temple judgment, which will be so severe on the JW organization, it is advisable to ” let those in [the JW organization] begin fleeing to the mountains”. Why? Bethel is the a lawless epicenter of the temple judgment visible cue:

(2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) 3 Let no one seduce you in any manner (such as apostate Bethel), because it will not come unless the (final) apostasy (Dan11:32a) comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. (now present at “disgusting thing” partnered Bethel) 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. (not only is the “Governing Body” 1976 coup a “lift up”; their current “we alone are the faithful slave” fiasco is the pinnacle of such “lifted up” blasphemy “in the temple” association.)

Questions Questions Questions

1. Think all that is just coincidence?

2. Think that Bethel smokescreen “USSR is King North” interpretation can really be upheld in spite of the USSR failure?

(Daniel 11:36b) And he will certainly prove successful until [the] denunciation will have come to a finish (at Armageddon divine war, King North is a constant success from Daniel 11:31 to Daniel 11: as the 8th King)

3. Did the USSR ” prove successful until [the] denunciation will have come to a finish”?

Bethel Silence Also Foretold

1. It appears Bethel no longer reads prophecy, well they certainly prove successful at silencing it:

(Daniel 8:12b) … and it kept throwing truth to the earth (cover up, disinformation), and it acted and had success. (Dan11:30 “act effectively” completely successful apostate subverters and impostor infiltrators) 

2. If God foretold the UN related presentations of 1919 and 1945, why did He not foretell this 3rd UN presentation of 1990? Or did He, and instead apostate Bethel as UN NGO is instead covering it all up leading Jehovah’s witnesses into a major judgment totally duped and sharing in this “wildbeast” ride?

Jehovah’s Judgment

1. And this is why one would now FLEE the doomed Bethel organization BEFORE the judgment comes on that UN partnered abomination itself, and apostasy, it will be “trampled” at global-scale, of “prophetic proportions” so JWs, in time, know what is going on, and what God does when one drags his name atop the UN wildbeast UN NGO global-escort system.

2. You better believe that UN NGO qualifies as a “transgression causing desolation” to the “Worldwide Origination of Jehovah’s Witness”, coming soon at global scale. It is coming, get OUT now, do not get caught in the JW organization 8th King spider web (WT 11/15/13 pg. 20, par 17, #3) of that temple judgment coming soon on Bethel for a final purification timed period:

(Daniel 8:13-14) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the (profaned) constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation (UN NGO alliance of Daniel 11:31b), to make both [the] holy place (temple “established place”; Dan8:11) and [the] (JW worldwide) army things to trample on?” (first 8th King “trampling” “attack” defining the spiritual meaning of the “tribulation of those days” beginning); 14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.” (Temple judgment purification completed in this timed period parallel Zechariah 3:4-5, Revelation 8:1-5);



All Four United Nations Presentations are Foretold in Bible Prophecy


Daniel Prophecy and 8th King/King North Globalists
Daniel 11:36-41 and Daniel 8:23-25 8th King Globalist Details and the Bethel Apostasy Co-Development

Connecting Bethel Lawlessness to Final Prophecy

Daniel 8:13-14 Details the Coming Temple Judgment of Jehovah’s Witnesses

Bethel’s Deep Illogic as Stated Policy – What it Actually Achieves “Between the Lines”

Bethel’s Deep Illogic as Stated Policy – What it Actually Achieves “Between the Lines”

This is the final portion intro of this full article, occurring at the end of the article: 

Ten Virgins and Temple Judgment

Which is this ending portion:

The Bethel Watchtower March 15, 2015 Dumb Down Policy Revealed and Applied

Which has this intro:

Deeper Implications in Bethel “Logic”

Of course much of this discrediting and waffling doubt process takes place “between the lines” to give further “food for thought” in various ways for individual Jehovah’s witnesses to psychologically grapple with in their own level of understanding of prophecy and Jehovah’s witnesses foundational truths of prophecy as formerly aided by parable symbols. Thus “between the lines” Bethel sows in deep logical contradictions actually weaved into the new Bethel rationale.

A problem that aids this being undetectable to many, is a Christian must be fully experienced in deep understanding of the original truth, to fully see how Bethel is slyly diverting it. Many Jehovah’s witnesses have “nodded off” so as to lose touch with deep study, in lieu of various Bethel organizational distractions and walking around neighborhoods in an imbalanced way.

Then there are the newbie JWs. For newer Jehovah’s witnesses the current Bethel “wormwood” diet just seems to be the way it always was, business as usual at Bethel. It is understandable why they will not detect the deeper development, they are not experienced enough in deep prophecy. Thus the whole thing is being diverted with deception and affected by well sown doubts, or hot off the press error, in different ways.

Since there is a “gradient” of experience and individual study, in general, the more Jehovah’s witnesses think about it, the more disharmonies with former teachings and principles arise in the process, purposeful Bethel disharmonization with the foundational truths is actually forming a warped and disjointed overall “message” now: it is simply the end, everything else we [used to believe] was all wrong. That is what Bethel is really saying, but by the illogic and doubts, not stated outright, but for people to determine on their own, later, progressively.

Deep internal doubt, that dumping of “oil”, that dawning of the realization of an illogical modern farce, is what is being sown.

The whole body of truth is being disjointed right under Jehovah’s witnesses noses. Now rather than show preview principles in these prophetic progressions since Israel’s time, to Christ’s time to Christendom’s time in their own “operation of error” apostate principle, now plainly surfacing at Bethel, Bethel just scraps everything that can be learned in that cyclic process of the replication of the same key apostate-to-judgment principles.

Of course this drops Bethel’s apostasy off the parable and prophecy “radar”, where their own apostate “blip” is now showing up: beep… beep… beep… As long as no one explains what that “blip” means, and that it is in prophecy and former principles as well, it will not occur to most Jehovah’s witnesses—they can continue to be misled amidst what is actually a final signal apostasy in maturity, concealing itself in the process. (2Thess2:1-4, Dan8:12, Dan11:30-35, 41, Zech3:1-3)

The current transformation of Bethel’s core process of presenting illogic as logical, divinely backed and beneficial, leaves many thinking Jehovah’s witnesses with logical contradictions to ponder later. The more deeply a Jehovah’s witness understood the original truth and prophecies, parables and principles, the deeper is the process of trying to resolve the hidden contradictions of the “new”, actually contradictory logic, actually deep illogic. That process of trying to fit all this together is of course far more confusing than anything Bethel is claiming to be “clarifying”. That psychological process, like a pebble in the shoe, will root around in the brain for quite some time, because these anomalies cannot actually be harmonized with the original Jehovah’s witnesses truth framework, they are changing and replacing it with no appeal to the more important core principle to retain.

At the same time, an experienced or insightful Jehovah’s witnesses Christian is who should be able to see the progressive Bethel apostate symptoms immediately, not as random hypocrisy, but as modern signal prophecy fulfilling—terminal apostasy maturation is the precursor to divine judgment, because only God and Christ can deal with such a deep rooted and fully advanced deceptive development. (Zech3:1-5, 2Thess2:8, Isa66:6)

And that divine encounter is the temple judgment and it will also form MORE notable, prophetic, SIGNAL developments to continue to manifest prophecy, from there, all the way to human world government and Christ’s arrival because this is a multi-year cycle, fully forecasted in prophecy repeating fulfillment in final form, not “the end” but of Bethel’s apostasy.

Thus the repeating principles are what manifest as repeating prophecy that must have a climax phase. Thus Bethel also conceals this principle of repeating developments signalling repeating prophecy in the process.

Everything Bethel does is to reinforce that HUGE premature end delusion, because it provides the cover for the final ministerial coup operations upon the JW organization, and it also provides dense cover for their exit to delay Jehovah’s witnesses awareness of reality as long as possible for after this coup completion. (Dan8:13-14)

Thus as things actually repeat in sovereign world power developmental history (and thus prophecy), those spiritual cycles that form apostasy in the same process also forming now, cannot be shown to also be a repeating principle (and its overall process). This is because the core pattern and principle is being conveniently discarded by Bethel, not re-clarified with the identification of new repeating developments displaying these principles so JWs can “catch on” to the concept and see modern reality.

Of course the Bethel apostates are not going to come in and point themselves out in judgment prophecy! Instead they are going to cover their arse.

Now Jehovah’s witnesses are also unaware of the overall repeating cycle of global developments that will eventually intensify as the JW ministry is fully dumbed down, to delay Jehovah’s witnesses as long as possible in the whole process. Thus none of it can be seen by Jehovah’s witnesses to be repeating principles, such as the apostasy leading to judgment principle, now plainly repeating right at Bethel.

The apparent doubt, right from Bethel, will also have a psychological effect upon the perceived validity of certain key original prophetic and principle truths and concepts upon which the whole original anointed Christian ministry is based since 1914. Those spiritual developments parallel global world power sovereign developments in prophecy concurrent in progressive development, thus truncating one continuum, aids breaking the other and both of their logical parallel continuums actually in the prophecy—because as before in the 1914-1919 cycle, they co-develop concurrently and are in a recognizable cycle that forms the basis of a recognizable cyclic repeat. This spiritual cacophony can manifest in conscious logical ways, but subconsciously this disharmonizing effect must also be taking place in Jehovah’s witnesses. To many outside observers it just seems ridiculous.

Thus along with the Web based attack on the 1914-1919 cycle, Bethel is performing their own covert attack on the JW foundation as well, merely hidden in the illogic and precedents being set. Those developments are related, internal Bethel waffling aids the external Web attack—they both have the same goal, to undermine the more important sovereign cycle from being recognized, that leads to world government, previewed in the 1914-1919 cycle but that will have a final cycle.

Thus just one major teaching based on 1914-1919 events (like the “faithful and discreet slave” “new light” “update”), described in a new application with no respect for the original principle of main importance, but totally replacing it as being totally invalid in its original explanation, in this implication, seeds in deeper doubts that progress the more one thinks about it.

But Bethel is now proceeding to do the same thing to the “ten virgins” parable explicitly, as well as other critical parables, with actually far different modern applications completely removing the original principle of faithfulness versus unfaithfulness and divine judgment in the principle of God making the final determination. Instead Bethel just grouts in basic minutia to glue together fragmented pieces to make it seem informative, while denuding the real “lesson” of the parable, as per the justified policy also publicly presented in this issue.

Thus implicitly Bethel is undermining far more than just these parables, but by implication all parables and prophecy regarding this temple judgment period and its key apostasy signal are being discredited. And if people wonder why Awake! IGNORES modern global wealth, military and globalization politics developments and prophecy the refers to all these progressive “signs in sun, moon and stars” (Luke21:25), well then, here is your reason: Bethel wants to keep it simple.

Thus a key objective of Bethel is to conceal global prophecy fulfillment. Bethel also has the goal of concealing their own apostate development and its great evidence and symptoms, such as this policy, already outlined in prophecy, parable details and important core principles. Thus Bethel also conceals from Jehovah’s witnesses the temple judgment this modern Bethel apostasy is indicating as also necessary as part of that progression of the prophecy—apostasy (present at Bethel) manifests first, and leads to “house” judgment first (that is in prophecy to start fulfilling beyond just the apostasy with this temple judgment event), and people will be affected (anointed Christians first; 1Pet4:17).

It is not “the end” Bethel also uses to conceal the meaning of what starts off this final period, it is just this final period cycle about to begin.

Thus in reality we are watching the “foolish virgins” designate class in the “evil slave” designate class in the Bethel leadership now doing exactly what the unfaithful would be doing: concealing themselves while casting doubt on everything, and undermining deeper warnings for their own version of truth as official self-justified one-sided policy of spiritual retardation—all while claiming to be doing just the opposite; thus further concealing their own activity of evil by deception. It is Bethel, with teachings such as these, that helps maintain the “ten virgins” “nap” (Matt25:5).

Ironically in the process, Bethel is now, for those awake, the main signal evidence of this “nod off” and its greater apostasy that aids it.


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From Bethel Apostasy and JW Delusion to Coming Peace and Security Hoax?

From Bethel Apostasy and JW Delusion to Coming Peace and Security Hoax?

Final Props Being Placed for the Final Phase

The purpose of the prelude deceptions is to instill in the mass mind, and it’s JW sector, the expectation of a “the end” prematurely to aid the uncertainty of the meaning of the coming world developments. In reality God’s prophecy already outlines the final cycle upon the first cycle of 1914-1919 that led to the first United Nations manifestation as the League of nations in 1919.

The same formula is to be used in the final UN cycle leading to world government through a comparable but more severe world war of finance and military “tribulation” that instead resolves in time into UN 8th King world government.

This formula has been used to resolve WW1, WW2 and Cold WW3 into comparable UN manifestations to conclude those global war and tribulation cycles, even if unique like the Cold War. (Dan11:29). The Bethel subversion and the general world misled state both create atmospheres of the “end of the world” and uncertainty.

Therefore when we compare prophetic reality with the Bethel engineered fraudulent version of it being promoted especially after the 1990 3rd United Nations placement, uncommented on by Bethel as regards prophecy and world significance of world government’s third phase of development of four foretold in prophecy, we can outline the general expectation Bethel is installing in the JW mind to create confusion in this final phase of detailed prophecy about to activate.

We can see what to expect next in the Bethel deception by a few core teachings Bethel is promoting like the “peace and security” expectation and a final decoy of the “King North” subterfuge they are now using the USSR to “fulfill”. One thing in the Bethel 8th King aided strategy leads to another to cease the Bethel ministry and to cover it up as “prophecy fulfilling” in the process to abandon JWs in total scattered confusion.

Thus the idea “the preaching work comes to an end” is also a fraudulent expectation being engineered into the JW psyche so JWs accept the Bethel coup as if it is “King North attacking” and or “the attack on Babylon the Great” and or “the attack of the Assyrian” and the “end of the world” shortly after the “great tribulation” begins.

Thus the “peace and security” is being misapplied prematurely to reinforce the overall premature “end of the world” expectation. That allows a final multi-year cycle to be covered up with a “slam dunk” “end of the world” expectation allowing a period of Jehovah’s witnesses confusion in the beginning of that final phase and cycle activation. It appears as well a “King North” final development will also be employed with these other deceptions to cover up the actual development’s meaning.

Reality 1

The tribulation will indeed develop, what develops after that activates is fully outlined in prophecy and completely contrary to the Bethel engineered deception based on a premature “end of the world” expectation and anxiety and uncertainty promoting ambiguous final “interpretation”.

We know in all this Bethel is first fulfilling the final apostasy and it’s 8th King relationship from the time of the 3rd UN placement (Dan11:31b) of 1990 forward in marked manner in Daniel 11:32:

(Daniel 11:32) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant (at Bethel), he (8th King/King North) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. (The Bethel “smooth words” 8th King cover-up in the JW publications is part of the smoothly justified apostasy);

Since Daniel 11:36-41 parallels Daniel 11:30-35 events in an overlay of 8th King developmental details, we know what Daniel 11:41 actually is implying in relation to Daniel 11:32 8th King “King North” led apostate objectives within Bethel:

(Daniel 11:41) He (8th King) will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration (infiltrates the Bethel ministry internally), and there will be many [people] that will be made to stumble. (Matt24:15; Luke21:20 signal development present now at Bethel; Stumbling people is also the lawless Bethel subversion goal. Parallels Daniel 8:11-13 and Daniel 11:30-35 events and meaning);

Actually Daniel 11:41 is the Bethel infiltration completing the coup begun by the Governing Body cell of dictatorial control of the JW ministry in 1976 when they first “lifted themselves over everyone”.

Reality 2

The global nation-state financial system meltdown is what will produce the very literal events on nation-state “land of” the “King South” “Egypt” realm falling under globalist “King North” 8th King preliminary financial control to guide the rest of the final cycle to world government by this global “King South” wealth pawning:

(Daniel 11:42-43) And he (8th King/King North) will keep thrusting out his hand against the (national) lands; and as regards the land of Egypt (collective national powers; King South “capital”), she (feminized King South) will not prove to be an escapee. (captured by globalist power intrigues of first a financial nature:) 43 And he (King North/8th King) will actually rule over the hidden treasures (globally) of the gold and the silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt. (Thus 8th King/King North rules the world wealth, wealth system and all “desirable things” of collective global national “Egypt” “King South” powers in full globalist progressive ownership);

See: Daniel 11:42-43 Explicit in Coming 8th King Globalized Wealth Control

Thus Daniel 11:44-45 is many years towards the end of this final cycle going into 8th King final “King North” world government over a “tribulation of those days” coming up that must resolve as per Matthew 24:29. That tribulation phase that will include economic and financial meltdown and probably military conflict with Russia and others, must resolve into, instead, the 8th King fourth UN cycle culmination into the foretold world government.

In effect the final cycle is what is starting next, not ending prematurely.

That reality is now to be sold to JWs as a premature “end of the world” expectation that any Russian activation militarily will be connected to the “Daniel 11:44 next” error that Bethel maintained from 1990 forward when the USSR fell. This allows a purposeful error to advance JW expectations too far into Daniel 11.

The Bethel Hoax

The overall purpose of the Bethel sector of an overall coming period of uncertainty is to keep it ambiguous and in expectation of “the end” prematurely. This allows what is actually a well detailed final UN cycle to proceed according to 8th King designate designs towards that end, while JWs are thrown into that final cycle thinking it is the certain end. In fact it cannot be the end for several reasons such as the completed world government requirement prior to Christ’s arrival and it’s final actual world “peace and security” statement under that foretold finality of world government. (1Thess5:1-3). It is under 8th King competed world government that the final actual “freedom from care” is to develop, it is the parallel of the “peace and security” now being touted by some as active now and about to be active soon in that “peace and security” statement as the prophetic actuality.

But in fact those things are premature and are required to develop under 8th King full and complete world government at the end of this coming cycle. So tossing JWs bewildered and eventually to be totally scattered and confused into that final cycle starting, aids the development of world government from being exposed properly as already fully outlined in the final prophecy.

The USSR Error and Fraudulent Positioning in Daniel 11

Bethel did not elaborate that the USSR downfall, as the United Nations “New World Order” arose in public statements of world government intent is a significant prophecy fulfilling Daniel 11:30-31 in 1990 marked UN 3rd placement event. Daniel 11:36-40 is all King North 8th King developments that Bethel conceals with this error purposely retained in the prophecy. Why is this easily proven USSR as “King North” error maintained?

This error and embedded perception allows over advancement of JW expectations to Daniel 11:44 as the next point of prophetic fulfillment. Simply put King North must be “successful until the denunciation will have come to a finish” (Dan11:36) from the 3rd UN to 4th UN world government overall period. The USSR cannot fulfill part of the “King North” prophecy to be “on hold” at Daniel 11:44.

It is the 3rd UN placement marked 8th King (Daniel 11:31b) that is successful as final “King North” from 1990 (Daniel 11:31b, Dan8:23a) to Armageddon in the 4th UN placement world government to result at the end of the Daniel 11:42-45 cycle.

The USSR cannot meet the criteria of the fulfillment of Daniel 11:36 “success” or Daniel 11:42-43 global gold control, but Bethel simply ignores this reality and it must be purposeful marking their apostate condition and King North 8th King affiliations. Daniel 11:41 is the 8th King “invasion” of Bethel by infiltration.

In reality Jehovah’s witnesses are being passed over the most significant UN period and prophecy since 1945 as if none of it occurred. Instead Bethel joined that 1990 3rd UN placement as a publicly known UN NGO liaison after a decade of covert membership still unaddressed officially by Bethel. Logically and by evidence there must be more going on in this Bethel defection.

Thus the predicable elements of the hoax can be seen in what JWs are being taught in key prophetic teachings misapplied and premature. We can expect a premature manifestation of a “King North” decoy and a “peace and security” statement that will not be the actuality of that final world government statement. That recently tensions have arisen centered on Russia seems to indicate the “King North” “continuation” as Russia may now be being prepared by Bethel to further conceal the 8th King in Daniel 11 as long as possible.

Also concealed is the final cycle significance of prophecy as it begins to near activation as actually Daniel 11:42-45 and as 8th King world government producing developments Thus the key global final phase, the fourth UN phase of prophecy to result in world government is being sold by Bethel and many in the misled world scene as “the end of the world” and Bethel can be set-up for removal by aid internally, and that can be sold to Jehovah’s witnesses as more “prophecy fulfilling brothers!”.

Now the use of the hoax “Peace and Security” statement is set up.

Peace and Security Prematurely Soon?

Expect the “Peace and Security” premature delusion soon, imo.

Once we see the purpose of this premature delusion we know it has to be used. It can fool not just Jehovah’s witnesses but much of nominal Christendom.

And that aids the premature “the end” delusion of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 present in JWs and in much of Christendom.

This allows the world government final cycle to progress pedal to the metal, and many will miss the reality, for quite some time, that this was a hoax intended to not just discredit JWs, but also Christianity prophecy in general by use of 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 expectation prematurely.

When the “tribulation of those days” ends, which is that final cycle (of several YEARS), it is then 8th King world government will present their real world “peace and security” final sovereign claim under full world government. (Dan8:25, 1Thess5:1-3) When there are NO “wars and reports of wars” in that 8th King world peace and proclamation, THEN the real end will come. (Matt24:6)

In the meantime, as the JW interpretation fails because of begin prematurely applied by Bethel, JWs will undergo a global discrediting campaign that Bethel aids by promoting this key delusion now in JWs:

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-2) However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.

The fake “peace and security” in my opinion coming up, will aid that delusion in itself, and in the final cycle STARTING events that will follow it. Much of Christendom is also subject to this delusion and hoax that aids the final cycle from not being recognized for what it is.

In reality it will be the final temple judgment cycle on JWs FIRST.

As far as JWs are concerned, Bethel can attempt to fully destroy the ministry (Dan11:32a, 41), and then sell that as long as they can to JWs as that premature “the end”. The only end it will be is that of the Bethel apostasy (Matt13:36-42), and that provides later insight into what is actually the “judgment STARTING with the house of God” and proceeding with world government completion to Christ’s arrival over that final cycle. (1Pet4:17, Dan8:13-14)

It will take several years, but it will get clear: COMPLETE 8TH KING WORLD GOVERNMENT is what will trigger Christ’s real and full arrival once they are done and stated as such, for real (1Thess5:1-3), not the fake peace and security JWs are primed for too soon, that the 8th King global planners will soon use to hoax JWs and others.

The judgment cycle is REPEATING, as is the whole prophecy, and it STARTS on the JW apostate organization, not Christendom, and not Babylon the Great – those are just Bethel diversions to obscure the meaning and location of their own judgment.

Make a mental note for later.

Full rationale of above at:

Bethel Hoax: Premature End Expectation

Bethel’s Main Delusion: The End is Near, Jehovah’s Day is Here! – is a Signal of The Final Apostasy


8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”

Notes on Why the Peace and Security Hoax Could be Effective

Comments from a Person on Peace and Security speculative article; 

@Peace and Security Prematurely Soon?

Comments: You wrote this [Peace and Security speculative article] in a way that only you understand.

First: Most people have no idea what you are referring to because they do not study and live their live in accordance with God’s word.
Actually others also understand the basic meaning of the “peace and security” finality. I am warning people of the use of that familiarity to potentially aid a great global hoax. I am looking for those not living in accordance, as was Christ, they are capable of learning more. Many will in time “get it” as to what is happening because God will back a long haul recovery as Revelation 8-11 REPEATS with the final cycle, ALSO REPEATING.

World Government and Prophecy Repeating Principles

What some do not understand is the wildbeast powers of this world ALSO UNDERSTAND MUCH OF CHRISTENDOM AND [ALL] OF JWS CAN BE AFFECTED by the use of this statement prematurely. YOU understand exactly what I said in that post, BUT, imo, you may be in denial with many other Jehovah’s witnesses, if you are one, about what is actually BREWING INSIDE OF Bethel. (Dan11:41, Dan11:32a, Dan8:12) The point of the post is Christendom is misled by the premature end expectation of 2Thess2:1-2, but so are JWs, and that deception among JWs occurred fully since 1976, not before, that GB first “lift up” into a dictatorial means of hi-jacking the JW anointed ministry fully, by the time Fred Franz died.

Can you face that possibility? Are they infallible? Is being a UN NGO UN partner really OK with God?

And that is why Fred Franz and Knorr did not agree with a dictator GB.

And thus it will take time for some to awaken to the real reality that Bethel has been fully compromised (Dan11:32a, 41, Dan8:12), and will aid a hoax also in that JW sector, with intent of destroying all Jehovah’s witnesses (Hos1:4-7), by the organization first (Dan8:13), [[LONG BEFORE world government completes]], and [long before Christ arrives] with that event.

If Bethel has genuine anointed Christians in “spearhead” command of the ministry subservient to Christ and God, they would also be explaining EVERYTHING noted and numbered at the very end of this post. They would not be a UN NGO. They would explain the 1990 3rd UN presentation prophecy and meaning.

I am fully capable of defending my explanation of the prophecy of apostasy, and final 8th King fulfillments Bethel is bypassing, WHILE also defending the foundation JW truth from 1914-1976, from 1914 to today’s Bethel apostates made clear as day in 1990.

UNLESS you are as asleep as Bethel, YOU KNOW the world itself is exposing more globalization-to-world-government developments now, than 1960 stuck Bethel. Bethel stagnates JWs, and stays in a post 1945-1960 UN position, that has now been superceded by the 3rd UN placement of 1990, that Bethel?

I G N O R E S.

Bethel ignores Global NATO, they ignore global finance and massive national debt swindle set-up, and they ignore globalization trends indicating a final cycle is gearing up, a cycle, not a slam dunk end.

And worse, Bethel became a UN NGO UN PARTNER? Are you getting the picture Steve, of what is REALLY happening INSIDE of Bethel’s leadership? (Dan8:12, Dan11:30b-32a) You telling me joining the UN is what the Christian anointed leaders do to Christ’s anointed betrothed remnant “body”? You are in agreement with being a UN partner organization?

JW UN NGO Prophecy, Information and Details

JW UN NGO – Tip of the Iceberg of Bethel Subversion

Let me be clear, because this WILL AFFECT YOU in time: Bethel is the final signal apostasy to trigger a divine judgment WELL BEFORE Christ arrives so everything can be explained by ANOINTED, approved, Christians coming from that MASSIVE judgment. (Dan8:13-14, Zech3:1-7, Matt25:1-13) You will, God willing, see that judgment, it goes on for the whole Daniel 8:14 VERIFICATION TIMING AND PHASING (Dan8:14, 26). You can doubt now, in time you will be more responsive to this judgment message on Bethel first as per 1Peter 4:17, imo.

I am not sharing in Bethel’s UN (Matt24:15) and other sins, I am pointing them out because they will in time require the judgment desolation of Daniel 8:13-14.

JWs – FLEE The JW Org!! – Matthew24:15

How to Set-Up JWs Like 8th King Sitting Ducks

Bethel Hoax: Premature End Expectation

TIME will prove my standing before God Almighty by virtue of Jesus Christ (Acts 5:38-40) and God’s prophecy now being hi-jacked and discredited by hypocrite lawless apostate Bethel by great deception and infiltration, very gradually, now it is terminal. Now some JWs are getting wind of the Bethel UN NGO dead Camel they gulp down, amidst the gnats JWs are sent out to hunt down as a diversion in the congregations; it is all a big JW distraction operation.

Second: You are under the impression that people as a whole know about 1 Thessalonians 5:3.

I think my post was clear: MANY, not all, Christian influenced people, including JWs, are affected by the “peace and security” prophecy.

“Once we see the purpose of this premature delusion we know it has to be used. It can fool not just Jehovah’s witnesses but much of nominal Christendom.”

And that is why that expectation, primed prematurely, can be used against all those expecting that prophecy.

I am speaking to them specifically, but anyone can read 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 to get the gist of God’s prophecy penned by Paul.

(1 Thessalonians 5:1-5) Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know quite well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape. 4 But you, brothers, you are not in darkness, so that that day should overtake you as it would thieves, 5 for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We belong neither to night nor to darkness.

But is everyone in the light today? Does Bethel apostasy help light things up? No. (Matt25:5) Not all will understand the meaning of this cycle as it begins, but in time many will and the Bethel apostasy and its judgment (1Pet4:17, Dan8:13-14) is the event that will help explain the final cycle. (Rev8:3-5, Rev8-11) It WILL get rid of the obstacle by God’s power, not men or “reformers”.

The whole 1914-1919 prophecy of Daniel and Revelation applicability must REPEAT, and that is why maintaining the validity of that cycle is important, it [already] explains the final cycle results in “League of Nations”, “United Nations” principle and cycle, united into full world government over the final cycle.

And that is why 1914 is under attack, and Bethel hypocrisy and publicly known lawlessness indirectly aids the discrediting of the whole JW ministry. Coming on that realization as real apostasy, is what is difficult for JWs to accept, that Bethel is now “King North” 8th King guided apostasy as per Daniel 11:32a and Daniel 11:41, “entered”, defected and infiltrated as per Daniel 11:30-31 and Daniel 8:12, fully seen since 1990.

In fact much of Christendom’s masses understand the gist of the prophecy as well. And this is also known by the rival global powers, they can use an impression of that prophecy, too soon, as a hoax statement, perceived as intended in Christendom and JWs, to get a certain reaction from [many] professed Christians and whole ministries. It then promotes the premature end delusion of 2Thessalonians 2:1-2, when Bethel’s apostasy has yet to be “revealed” by God, fully, globally. The “reaction” is a premature expectation that paralyzes deeper insight in to what will actually be an 8th King strategist maneuver.

In that way they can attempt to bring in full world government over that cycle, without valid warning as to what it means, while even JWs and Christendom prophecy interpretation is being fully discredited, because it will not be “the end”, it will be the final 8th King UN cycle beginning, and will result in full 8th King world government.

Because it is so ironed in to the JW brain, I feel it is certain to emerge to mislead JWs for a while (Hos6:1-3), amidst Bethel organizational “trampling” making it look like the real end to many (Dan8:13); but of course that really is, in spite of all the evidence, my opinion. I feel JWs and [just about] everyone else, globally, is not aware just how “in tune” and unified the world government planners are, for discrediting all Christian prophecy as they bring in the nemesis world government system to completion. (and at the end of that cycle, the total deposition of all global religion in Babylon the Great; (Rev17:11-18, Rev16:12-19)

Thus if they did succeed, which they will not (Rev11:1-7 repeating), but they will for a while, they would slip in the 8th King full world government with no warning as to its colossal ramifications: it triggers Christ’s arrival.


The less people know, the more likely they will meet with destruction at that time (Rev14:9-11), thus the goal of concealing the real meaning of this final cycle IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SATAN, THE 8TH KING AND APOSTATE BETHEL, because now they are all working together.

Third: It is clear you are trying to understand future events which is important to salvation. However, whether you are right or wrong, this knowledge will not benefit you in the end. This prophecy concerns a trigger for future events for the final destruction of wicked mankind.

This is because you, understandably at this time, fail to realize COMPLETE 8th King WORLD GOVERNMENT is what triggers Christ’s arrival, and the “peace and security” is their final sovereign full world rulership TO BE GLOBALLY KNOWN in that final global statement and claim [period] (Rev17:12). Thus knowing that is of great benefit for salvation, the WHOLE final period must also be open for salvation. ALL of Revelation 14:1-16, which Matthew 24:30-31 leads to in 144000 completion, is OPEN FOR SALVATION!

Bethel is concealing the FACT, not opinion, the whole “tribulation of those days”, and its included 1260 days, and the WHOLE Daniel 12:11 1290 day period are OPEN FOR SALVATION. VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW! People can be saved all through the “tribulation of those days”, all through 8th King world government, all through BTG judgment (Rev11:13, Rev14:6-8). ONLY at the very end, Revelation 14:17-20 parallel Matthew 25:41-46 are “goats” removed.

Rather, many will benefit as this completion is part of the whole completion of Revelation 10:5-11, Revelation 11, and Revelation 16:12-20. Thus once we know that 8th King WORLD GOVERNMENT will complete, beyond but including the UN “image”, its nucleus, then we know the “peace and security” is the final WORLD PEACE PROCLAMATION OF COMPLETE 8TH KING WORLD GOVERNMENT!

Even after they discredit the prophecy at the start of that cycle (Dan11:42-45), in time world government completion has to become globally known, and thus the REAL “peace and security” has the greatest meaning as Daniel 11:44-45 converges in Daniel 12:11, and Daniel 8:25 culminates in that parallel “freedom from care” that that “peace and security” is in final form the parallel of.

Thus the complete 8th King world government “peace and security” is a final milestone, along with the destruction of Babylon the Great concurrent (for BTG deposition aids world peace believability), FULL FINAL SIGNALS OF Christ’s assured full arrival, the FINAL full signal after 8th King world government completes. And because Daniel 8:14 and Daniel 12:7 (Rev11:2-3, Rev13:5) YEARS must yet unfold into Daniel 12:11 (in which Christ arrives as Rev11:11-12), even you can benefit when the prophecy, fully cross referenced and cross-tested, based on the first JW 1914-1919 cycle truth, REPEATS and manifests according to the prophecy; it is ALREADY there, Bethel is just concealing it, and that is why they are removed in big events, FIRST. (1Pet4:17, Rev8)

Now JWs being overly busy so as not to keep up with BIBLE STUDY AND CURRENT GLOBALIZATION AND WORLD GOVERNMENT FORMING EVENTS, is how JWs have also been affected in this Matthew 25:5 “nod off” in the “delay” since 1919, and the 1976 diversion GB inception.

TIME is what will test this forecast. You will see, imo and the way prophecy aligns imo, (1) Bethel apostasy judged, (2) a final warning will emerge, (3) into the “tribulation of those days”, and it will head to (4) full 8th King world government, (5) before Christ arrives and then (6) BTG final deposition as Christ “gathers” as well from that judgment (Rev14:6-8, Rev11:13), already arrived and present.

Making people think the “tribulation of those days” was the end, aided the process. And this is why the “tribulation of those days” ends BEFORE Christ even arrives, he arrives into the 8th King world government completion, AFTER it completes and STATES its signal “world peace” proclamation of 1Thessalonians 5:1-3.

Basically the whole pattern of 1914-1919 REPEATS.

1. Master Pattern: What was a Kingdom ministry, that deployed into an active WW1, that led to the League of Nations world government foundation REPEATS those same principles, but to completion. What was the Christendom apostasy announcement is also a repeating theme, as it was in that original JW ministry.

2. Repeat: Now a re-affirmed Kingdom ministry (second witness), deploys into an active “tribulation of those days”, that leads to the full 8th King world government REPEATING the same master cycle meaning, but to completion. What was the Christendom apostasy announcement is now the Bethel apostasy announcement, as also a repeating theme, as it was in that original JW ministry.

The Bethel apostasy being judged, begins that final cycle.


I hope you are comfortable with classic Christian anointed prophecy understanding as spearheaded in accuracy by Jehovah’s witnesses up to the point of gradual apostasy and “simplification” that results in losing track of all prophecy, and 8th King UN “image” developments since 1990 in full swing at sleeping Bethel.

Although others like Robert King, Perimeno, AnointedJW, Pearl Doxsey, Cedars, e-JW, Thirdwitness, Donald Burney, Borean Pickets, H. Melvag, and others, see the Bethel apostasy, not all see the temple judgment indicated in that development, and it being EXPLICITLY, FULLY DESCRIBED, 100%, in prophecy, prophecy Bethel is subverting as policy. (WT 3/15/2015)


Of course the hijacking of the last point of anointed Christian development to today’s JW apostate condition (Zech3:3), is GOING TO BE FULLY FORETOLD BY GOD! What are we thinking, this is all a big mystery of random hypocrisy at Bethel? No way, no how, God foretells fully the who, when, what, why and how of the Bethel apostasy. (Dan8:11-13, Dan11:30-35, 41; 2Thess2:1-4, Zech3:1-3)

Unlike most of those other JW commentators, I maintain ALL the valid Jehovah’s witnesses foundational Revelation and Daniel 12 prophetic patterns of 1914, and the whole 1914-1919, 1919-1922, 1922-1926 Daniel timed periods AND THEIR MINISTERIAL MEANING OF THOSE PERIODS. I do not knock Charles Russell, Joseph Rutherford, Nathan Knorr or Fred Franz, I REAFFIRM the truths they ALL pioneered. THEY, BY GOD THROUGH CHRIST, PROVIDED THE FOUNDATION, THAT EXPLAINS THE FINAL CYCLE; ALREADY THERE.

[I just tell people IT ALL REPEATS, TWO, 2 WITNESSES.] One cannot throw away the foundation, and yet understand what is now forming as many JW commentators out there are doing, aiding the subversion in the process. 1914 is valid prophecy in all regards.


I point out the modern apostasy as well, that the “Governing Body” is NOT a Biblical entity nor divine nor a legal authority over anointed Christians (2Cor11:13-15), in fact they are the means the ministry was hi-jacked AGAINST the advice of Nathan Knorr and Fred Franz ALONE in dissension against that dictatorship. (Rev8:10-11, 2Thess2:1-4)

It is in the prophecy portion Bethel now actively conceals by subversion:

Bethel Apostasy Foretold in Daniel 8 and 11

Therefore there is no one on the Web, who so thoroughly defends Jehovah’s witnesses foundational truths, only PROVING where the GB are diverting from realty in 1990 concerning ONLY Daniel 8:11-25, and Daniel 11:27-45 as ALL 8th King final convergent sovereign climax, not the USSR and not the 7th King Anglo-American alliance. But WORLD GOVERNMENT is what Daniel 8 and 11 culminate into. (Dan8:25, Dan11:45) The 7th King MUST fall:

7th King Downfall – Isaiah’s and Ezekiel’s Prophecy – “Egypt” Pronouncements as Modern Nation-State System Parallels in the Final Tribulation Cycle

8 Kings: Why the 7th King Anglo-American National System Must “Fall”

The End of National Sovereignty, Not The End of the World

So I hope you are ready to discuss CLASSIC JW anointed prophecy because I know it inside and out, and I know where the subversion is occurring in only a portion of the prophecy in its 1990 related late developments that the 3rd UN placement of 1990 AFFIRMS is significant in spite of the fact Bethel IGNORES that 3rd placement.

I only overturn modern Bethel apostasy, I do not call into question the whole JW ministry.

Jehovah’s Witnesses Valid Kingdom Ministry and Preview Master Pattern of Prophecy That Must Repeat (1914-1919)

Why This JW Testimony is Unique

If you are appreciative of the work of anointed Christians to establish that prophetic foundation for God by Christ, then this should be the more important love of your life, PROPHECY is God’s direct deepest communication to anointed Christians (Rev1:1, 2Pet1:19-21), to be made known to others as it emerges fully. (Rev10:11). I hope you are engaging and confident in what JWs should know fully by now, like the back of their hands, because without the foundation of original JW truth, there is no longer any anchor or truth to appeal to. The original JW ministry set the stage for the whole process to Christ’s full arrival.


1914’s Main Validation? World Government and World History

Of that list of JW apologists and critics above, ONLY Perimeno, Thirdwitness and myself defend 1914, the last time I checked. EVERYONE ELSE is doubting 1914.


Because the 1914-1919 pattern in that first cycle, is the master pattern of the final cycle, all truth is equated in the 1914-1919 cycle. Thus discarding the first pattern and the first JW ministry, is as good as missing the whole ministerial theme and sovereign meaning of impending certainty of final conflict when Christ arrives on COMPLETE 8th King world government.

Repeating Cycles: The Whole Prophecy Repeats Starting With The Temple Judgment Portion


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Jehovah’s Witnesses Had the Original Kingdom Truth

Jehovah’s witnesses as the Bible Students identified the truth of the Kingdom of God as manifesting a final warning to the sovereign powers of planet earth (Rev19:19-21) and this universe (Rev20:1-3). The original message is now well known. But it is also now subverted.

That original Kingdom ministry manifested in a fulfillment of the preview meaning of Daniel 7, 12 and Revelation 10-11 as a Kingdom of God affirming world warning upon Christian principle basics first (which exposed the Christendom national governments supporting theological deceptions as falsehoods, harlotry), that deployed into WW1 as a world changing form of world-war-finance-industrial paradigm whose “tribulation” “problem” resolved into the globalizing League of Nations “solution”.

[The League of Nations is a known world government foundation, so it was a significant event in world history, as was it’s world war context, and the Christian ministry of the Bible students.]

Thus the human counterclaim to world governmental rulership of Earth appeared in the same 1914-1919 period in that Anglo elite League of Nations, it is not a random occurrence, it is not without great meaning (and it was prophecy fulfilled) – and that is the truth. (Rev13:11-15) The the major church councils of the world endorsed that system as the “expression of God’s Kingdom on Earth” that is not the truth.

The global church organizations still endorse the UN as God’s Kingdom on earth, but it is a counterfeit as are the organized church systems not exposing the truth of prophecy of which UN NGO Bethel is but one more example of a sell out organized Christian religion, they are all “the lie” of 2Thess2:1-4, 11-12 as Bethel is now the latest “operation of error” in a far older “man of lawlessness” typified by Kingdom of God disloyalty, say one thing, do another, typical liars and church conmen.

But that UN NGO disloyalty of the GB conmen occurred in the 1990 period, when Bethel covered up that 3rd UN placement (Dan11:31b; Dan8:23a) and the connection to the future 4th UN manifestation (Dan11:45, Dan8:25; Dan12:11) as it was the Bible Students and Jehovah’s witnesses who exposed the first 2 UN placements (1919 Rev13:11-15; Dan12:11; 1945 Rev17:8-11) enroute to Christ’s final war engagement upon that sovereign system (Rev19:11-21), when complete 8th King in the future as world government, at Armageddon for final sovereign conquest of the universe and planet Earth.

Thus dropping the UN at 1990 3rd down, is a major truth fumble for Jehovah’s witnesses. There is no way the 3rd UN placement is insignificant and unforetold. It is prophecy and it is significant as it connects the final two UN placements as Daniel 11:30-45 and Daniel 8:23-25 parallel. This is why the apostate target of the 3rd UN placement, to conceal it, is so significant as well. It is not all coincidental or UN NGO “for a library card” excused.

So it was in truth that this Christian ministry was restored from centuries of church state wealth serving brainwash as per prophecy. It was valid until the Governing Body coup (1976) fully successfully overrode that Kingdom ministry to the point of One: endorsing and co-promoting the UN New World Order initiative, with that very name “new world order” (Awake! 9/8/1991) with George Bush Sr on world tour 1990-1992 as UN NGO (1992-2001).

Two: They also covered up King North as the main force of Daniel 11:30-32 developments as only possible in the 8th King enroute to Daniel 11:45, obviously a world government describing final UN placement parallel to Daniel 12:11 where Daniel 11:42-45 must lead to live and real-time. Three: They also cover up their own foretold apostasy as per their role in that Daniel 11:30-35 segway, and their role in Daniel 8:11-13, as both “causes desolation” cross relate Daniel 11:31b and Daniel 8:13 temple judgment indictment. Four: They also cover up the final cycle of prophecy requirement and UN world government completion for more fictions.

Thus Bethel is doing the same as the churches as the Catholic church fully overrode the first century ministry of the original Christians. Bethel having known the truth recently, is even worse than the long misled churches. Thus the vying of truth and error is even present in the Jewish system leading to Christ’s rejection and execution, and thus will it be the same until Christ arrives and literally removes all opposers and “workers of lawlessness”.

Bethel will merely be a signal judgment in modern well noted form (1Pet4:17; Dan8:13-14) leading to a final warning and final full fulfillment of Daniel 12 and Revelation 8-11, 15-16 in full, complete (Rev10:6-8), final form over some final years of this world system.

The churches have been exposed in institutional form as even more lost than Bethel now, so individuals even in churches and other non-Christian religions and the world in general can be saved in this final warning phase coming up to Christ’s full arrival, upon earth shaking prelude events (Hag2:7; Rev15-16).

SAVING PEOPLE WILL BE THE GOAL OF THE FINAL MINISTRY AND THE FIRST PRIORITY OF CHRIST at Matthew 24:30-31 after the final tribulation “problem” resolution (Matt24:29) for the 8th King world government “solution” for the fourth time in modern world history.

Those events will be leading to world government over some final years of Daniel 8:14 and Daniel 12:7, 11. But like Bethel first soon, the Christendom system, really just Babylon the Great under a “Christian” institutional veneer, will eventually be fully removed by God (Rev17:15-18), as previewed in the Jehovah’s witnesses ministry from 1919 forward as full understanding of the Kingdom reality came forth progressively.

(The judgments JWs apply to Christendom in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Micah, others, and final fulfillment Revelation, will instead apply to Bethel next, Bethel goes down as “apostate Jerusalem” associated representative “established place” (Dan8:11) soon, but it can drag on a couple years as per Daniel 8:14, Hosea 6:1-3. Christendom goes down at the end of the final cycle in BTG, Rev16:12, 17; Rev17:15-18, Rev18. To God there is no such thing as “Christendom” is all Babel based religious “the lie” systems)

Thus it is Jehovah’s witnesses truth now subverted especially since 1976, that can be recovered for the final witness (Rev10-11), because it is the last place any full truth had come forth from with the Christian and divine name attached to it’s identity. The church system was told of their failure to observe the holy Kingdom covenant, and the new covenant, almost 100 years ago, so they cannot be recovered as even JWs are now lost in this process, but anyone on earth can between them, Christ and God, accept the gift of salvation.

That will be made clear when the Bethel intermediaries are removed and fully exposed as the final apostasy we have been awaiting, and now it is here, and so will divine judgment follow that initial exposure seen by many, from God, that He will finalize before the eyes of the world.

But the global context to form in that judgment as outlined in Daniel 11:42-43 global wealth globalization of the 8th King designate “King North”, will also change the global complexion to tribulation, that again will resolve in final form (Matt24:29) into 8th King world government and the final world government world “peace and security” sovereign statement. At which time Christ can and will arrive to depose a finally fully complete and stated and functioning world government rival.

The UN “image” is not a true 8th King super-sovereign yet, and that is why JWs are expecting Christ’s full arrival prematurely. For modern day Bible Students Daniel and Revelation already tell us “what must shortly take place” (Rev1:1) concerning this final phase well before the 8th King final phase to world government completes. So we can explain truth that people can plainly see in THREE United Nations renditions (1919, 1945, 1990), as the fourth cycle will finally produce world government full 8th King, and all four UN placements are foretold, and JWs did expose the first two.

UN 3rd and 4th placement meaning will be made globally known in the recovery, for UN world government in the full sovereign capacity of a true “8th King” some years after the Bethel downfall, as Daniel 11:42-45 forming global context, will result in Christ’s arrival, for finally the true foe of peace and security, the 8th King globalist elites and their world government will be complete and ready for battle (Joel 3:9-12; Eze38:7) with God Almighty, in His war with them by Jesus Christ, King of kings. (Rev16:13-16; Rev19:11-21);

People have to face 8th King world government even before Christ arrives, so it will get far clearer in the coming days whether this is truth or false. Daniel and Revelation and other prophets already give the clues that 100 years of world war and UN development also affirm in three world war cycles, including the Cold War that ALL were resolved as world wars, into some form of a UN presentation and world peace intent statement.(1919, 1945, 1990) The UN will achieve a world peace (1Thess5:1-3; Dan8:25 “freedom from care”), by their own definition for a period within Daniel 12:11 meaning of final, fourth, UN “disgusting thing” placement as finally world government. (Dan7:26);

Then the true end of the 8th King world system, in full Revelation 16:13-16; Rev17:11-18 worldwide conglomeration, will come. But a final warning, based on the original Jehovah’s witnesses truth of prophecy, will come forth, guaranteed as per Daniel and Revelation and other final fulfillment prophecies.

If one is Christian, one stands for the Kingdom of God especially in the face of it’s 8th King enemy system, as it is now going into world government completion. One cannot accept the mark of world government, 666, and still conquer as Christian.

(Revelation 14:9-12) . . .And another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God… those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. 12 Here is where it means endurance for the holy ones, those who observe the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.”

Thus warning people what human world government completion will mean is the final mission. (Rev10-11). Space will not allow how mainstream Christendom and Bethel now avoid the issue altogether. It will get clearer as that world government goes into it’s final cycle. And that is the truth. It is no surprise selling one’s soul to Jesus Christ by God’s purchase may get one killed. Even Satan expects obedience to the death, but at least God is the truth and no one can really permanently kill one that “does the will of God” for they remain forever.

(Revelation 12:10-11) . . .“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death.

The final testing is about to begin, the ringing and shattering of the Bethel bell will mark it. (Dan8:13 “trampling”), Jesus will arrive shortly after UN world government completion, no matter what they may call it at that time, that is what Christ awaits as far as the sovereign rival 8th King completion.

Bethel Confusion

Hi Sister,

Just wanted to let you know the period we are in is foretold to be confusing:

(Daniel 11:32-35) “And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But as regards the people who are knowing their God, they will prevail and act effectively. 33 And as regards those having insight among the people, they will impart understanding to the many. And they will certainly be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for [some] days. 34 But when they are made to stumble they will be helped with a little help; and many will certainly join themselves to them by means of smoothness. 35 And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

It is confusing because these trails of this apostasy test a person’s faith as to being in God and Christ, or simply men, regardless how they present their “smooth words”.

We know the above development is to be fully remedied at the coming temple judgment, because as we see it provides a basis of individual judgment for god or bad or for inspiring repentance by discipline. This will be the first time probably now all JWs will actually experience a judgment and come to understand foretold transgression inspired it.

“But when they are made to stumble they will be helped with a little help; and many will certainly join themselves to them by means of smoothness.” That “smoothness” has many JWs now who are not deeply rooted, and other internally operative who are not truly anointed, the whole anointed guidance is fully lost at Bethel. That “little help” will climax at temple judgment as “But as regards the people who are knowing their God, they will prevail and act effectively” as that too climaxes as God aids this process for a ministry that cannot be compromised again, for the time will be short, and prophecy of a final warning must take place in that actual final warning of Kingdom certainty to planet earth.

The “And they will certainly be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for [some] days.” can also be read in spiritual internal warfare that occurs in this Bethel invasion internally by these developments marking Daniel 11:41 signal of “enter the Decoration” well before Daniel 11:45 4th UN placement meaning as a counterfeit of God’s Kingdom in 8th King world government.

That is how we know the above Daniel 11:32-35 actually parallels the signal development of Daniel 11:30-31. This is because although 1990 marked the UN NGO Dan11:31b signal of Matt24:25, this Bethel operation had to be maturing in corruption after initial internal developments progressed for quite sometime prior to that, probably aimed at also covering up the 1945 UN meaning which of course was successfully explained. That means progress of “give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant” of Daniel 11:30b, also precedes the UN NGO as preparatory subtle Bethel internal compromise for possibly decades as defection and expert infiltration was in progress well before even the 1976 GB Bethel coup.

By not commenting on the 3rd UN placement of 1990, and joining the UN, and promoting interpretational cover-up and error, we know UN development aid is the chief goal of the Bethel apostates, those purposefully undermining the ministry under sheep’s covering. And we know a subversion was successful after 1945 resulting in the 1990 UN NGO.

So as per prophecy:

(Daniel 11:41) He will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration, and there will be many [lands] that will be made to stumble.

But in fact those are not “lands” as the [inserted] word to clarify the context, better is [people] being stumbled what this Bethel infiltration effect is:

(Daniel 11:41) He will also actually enter into the land of the Decoration, and there will be many [people] that will be made to stumble.

We clearly see that especially with the lawless Bethel backed web stumbling campaign.

I say this so you know it will in fact get worse, but we can use that trial to direct faith to where it is supposed to go, to God and Christ, because their aid will be necessary as foretold and guaranteed to come to fix these conditions to effect a final ministry. Thus know that the Bethel objective will continue successful even into the initial Daniel 8:14 “evening” period of temple judgment desolation starting.

They will keep misleading and operating “in the temple” until they are removed, because the subversion is successful until removed as per 2Thess2:8 and Zech3:4-5 parallels.

Thus be aware a personal faith directed to Christ ALONE to access God ALONE as the rightful recipient of faith and worship will be necessary for even a couple to three years, apparently from the Daniel 8:14 timing in parallel to Hosea 6:1-3 meaning of “after two days”. Since Hosea is a 740 BCE proclaiming original judgment that parallels this initial judgment starting a whole world judgment cycle to climax some years later as a signal, just as Israel’s 740 BCE judgment was a warning signal to Jerusalem that fell under judgment 133 years later in 607 BCE by Babylon.

Keep praying hard and studying the Bible in light of the JW ministry that used to be in an approved state to even explain two UN placements, and subtly, as per Daniel 8:12, was subverted to today’s proportions:

(Daniel 8:12) And an (JW) army itself was gradually given over, together with the constant [feature] (profaned), because of transgression; and it kept throwing truth to the earth, (cover up) and it acted and had success.

And “it” is the 8th King and Bethel “they” here resulting from that subversion:

(Daniel 11:30-31) “And he (KN/8th King) will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. (at Bethel) 31 And there will be (infiltrators) arms that will stand up (at Bethel), proceeding from him (8th King); and they (now a team effort, a collusion of 8th King and Bethel) will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature]. “And they will certainly put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation.


So sister we need patience and we need to await the signal developments climaxing to Daniel 8:13 meaning of a “trampling” of the Bethel system. And we need to realize this is very serious and will require quite and upheaval. And it will be confusing to now misled JWs, so we do not want to wander back into an organizational “Jerusalem” that must be given to 8th King intrigues, controlled and aided internally at Bethel to climax in an 8th King broader set of world events as Daniel 11:42-43.

This is because a “son of destruction” betrayer symbol related to Judas Iscariots character, is what the “man of lawlessness” is also foretold to culminate into, and thus an internally controlled Bethel worldwide organization can be used to channel many misled JWs into 8th King hands, easily covered up in the process by Bethel, because JWs have no cross communication and Bethel is the hub of communication and the source of more cover-up to come.

And placing faith in “Jehovah’s organization” for a deliverance is also idolatrous, for God has Himself, Christ and many holy angels that are deliverers as need be, in any true world scale emergency, Bethel should be directing faith to that power of deliverance, not an earthly “organization”. Plus we know it is a compromised organization with 8th King collusion and further anti-Christian and anti-ministerial goals.

Keep building faith, because that darkness symbolized in Daniel 8:14 “evening” at temple judgment, is already at work in JWs now by this clever operation subtly misleading the whole Kingdom and UN parallel tracking ministry for 8th King objectives, not those of God’s Kingdom.