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Why TWO Witnesses?

Why TWO Witnesses?

Have you ever wondered why the now opened seven seal scroll has TWO sides?

(Revelation 5:1) And I saw in the right hand of the One seated upon the throne a scroll written within and on the reverse side, sealed tight with seven seals. 

Have you ever wondered why there are TWO witnesses?

(Revelation 11:3) And I will cause my TWO witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.” 

Have you ever wondered why TWO “wings of the great eagle” deliver the “woman” for 1260 days?

(Revelation 12:14) But the TWO wings of the great eagle were given the woman, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place; there is where she is fed for a time and times and half a time away from the face of the serpent.

Have you ever wondered why the commission of God is the “you must prophesy AGAIN” at Revelation 10:11?

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

Have you ever wondered why Christ has TWO “triumphal entries” in Revelation; One with a “bow” (a long range weapon) and one with a “sword” (a close range weapon)?

1. God’s Kingdom Phase:

(Revelation 6:2) And I saw, and, look! a white horse; and the one seated upon it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went forth conquering and to complete his conquest.

2. Messianic Kingdom Phase:

(Revelation 19:11-15) And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. 14 Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. 15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. 

Have you ever considered the final required “seven times” is TWO “time, times and half a time” 3.5 time periods? (Dan7:25, Dan12:7, Rev11:2-3, Rev12:14, Rev13:5-7)

Why all the TWOs?

Because there are TWO Kingdoms in prophecy! (Dan2:31-44; Luke22:28-30; Zech6:1-8)

(Daniel 2:45) out of the mountain (God’s Kingdom) a stone (Messianic Kingdom) was cut not by hands

(Daniel 2:35) as for the [Messianic Kingdom] stone that struck the image, it became a large mountain [Messianic Kingdom; Rev11:15] and filled the whole earth.

(Daniel 2:44) the God of heaven (already in His Kingdom) will set up a (Christ’s) kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. 

God’s Kingdom and Christ’s Messianic Kingdom are Distinct Kingdom Entities

1. There are two witnessing periods required (past; future) because in the Bible there are TWO Kingdoms, and each one, God’s Kingdom (1914-1918) and the Messianic Kingdom (future), BOTH require a proclamation concerning their own respective global manifestation over the time of the “last days”.

A. The “first witness” of the “TWO witnesses” proclaimed God’s Kingdom successfully, that is why we are talking about the 1914-1918 first 1260 day period even now.

2. Of course the “second witness” will proclaim the yet REQUIRED Messianic Kingdom completion requirement (Rev11:11-15; Rev14:1) that proceeds right after Christ arrives (Matt24:29-31) to make the final global “sheep” gathering first (Rev14:14-16; Matt25:31-40) into that final Kingdom completion requirement, BEFORE the absolute end, AFTER the 8th King also completes final global-rival world government. (Rev17:8-18; Dan12:11= Dan11:45; Dan8:25)

A. That is also why there are TWO apostasies we are now seeing—Christendom apostasy and now Bethel’s apostasy (Dan11:30-32a; Zech1-3; 2Thess2:1-4), which is the final one that leads to the temple judgment (1Pet4:17; Dan11:41; Dan8:13-15; Zech3:4-5; Rev8:3-5), that purifies the anointed Christian ministry (Mal3:1-5; Zech3:4-5; Isa6:6-8), that eventually prepares this SECOND witnessing period (Rev10-11:1-7) concerning Christ’s arrival to also complete the Messianic Kingdom requirement.

Revelation Final Cycle—1260 Days REPEATS in Final Form

This means the seven trumpets (Rev8-11) and the “seven plagues” (Rev16) ALSO have a SECOND cycle in the total final fulfillment in the future.

The “second witnessing” of the “two witnesses” thus has a final 1260 day, this time as the Messianic Kingdom warning proclamation, prior to the rival 8th King world government also required completion. (Rev17:8-18; Rev16:12-16; Dan8:25; Dan11:41-45; Dan12:11)

In this way the “seven times” will also complete as 2520 DAYS—1260 days TWICE, one in each of the  “TWO” “witnesses”:

(Revelation 11:3) And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days (2 x 1260=2520) dressed in sackcloth. 

1. First Witness (1914-1918; God’s Kingdom announcement) = 1260 Days

2. Second Witness (Future; Messianic Kingdom announcement) = 1260 Days

Witness 1, 1260 Days + Witness 2, 1260 Days = 2520 Days or “seven times” completion of “holy city” “trampling” in modern accelerated “last days” timing:

(Revelation 11:2) But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. (84 months; 2520 days, seven times, total)

Which still relates Revelation 11:2 to this final divine allowance and requirement:

(Luke 21:24) Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.

Seven Times COMPLETES!

And thus the divine decree which has completed in 2520 years as “seven times” merely continued into the “last days” to completely fulfill the “appointed times of the nations” in 2520 days in two 1260 day warning periods for each required Kingdom manifestation.

Uniquely the 1260 days (3.5 times; 42 months) cross links Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, Revelation 11:2-3, Revelation 12:14, Revelation 13:5-7 as parallel final fulfillment sequences, that ALSO REPEAT in the future, to lead to complete 8th King world government “place the disgusting thing” (Dan12:11 repeats) and thus Christ arrival AFTER they complete their abomination of world government fully.

World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years.

And that is why apostate Bethel’s obstacle is removed first (1Pet4:17) as Daniel 11:41 activates Daniel 8:13-14 on the apostatized and compromised Bethel WTBTS, “Worldwide Organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, which is now main apostate leadership truth impediment. (Dan8:12b; Dan11:32a)

Daniel 8:14 temple judgment timing comes next, and MUST fully expire into the “right condition” of ministerial purification and accurate prophetic truthfulness (Rev10:5-11) BEFORE the 1260 days can truly begin as approved by God. (Rev10:5-11; Zech3:4-6; Matt24:45-51; Matt25:1-13)) THAT is why there must be a final temple judgment REPEAT as ell.


Final Note

Have you ever noticed that Revelation 9 REPEATS words and similar meanings at least twice, 56 times?

Because Revelation 9 fulfills TWICE.


Because Revelation 9 REPEATS, all of Revelation 8-11 REPEATS to provide a “second witness” affirmation of the “frist witness” patterns that explained Revelation 8-11 in preview form, so that we know the “seven trumpets” gauge the final global milestones to Christ arrival.

In that final sequence, the apostasy (Rev8:10-11), to temple judgment (Rev8), purification (Rev8:3-5), recovery (Rev9), final commission (Rev10) to final warning (Rev11:1-7), final warning, to “two witnesses” cessation under world government (Rev11:7-10), to Christ arrival (Rev11:11-13), to Messianic Kingdom completion (Rev11:11-12; Rev14:1) to Christ conquest (Rev11:15) milestones that lead to Christ arrival by notable final global events are all outlined in order, trumpets 1-7.

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Seven Seals—Opened “Seal” is Opened Understanding Given to Christ in 1914

Seven Seals—Opened “Seal” is Opened Understanding Given to Christ in 1914

To understand the seven seals, one must understand what a “seal” is a symbol of.

A “seal” is a divine “secret” only God knows.

It is a symbol of a divine secret as long as it is “sealed”. Thus God already understands what is in each of the “seven seals”, he is the Sealer of the seven seals of the “sacred secret”.

And that is why when no one else could be found worthy of having this secret fully “opened”, that is fully revealed to them, it caused the apostle John great grief:

(Revelation 5:1-5) And I saw in the right hand of the One seated upon the throne a scroll written within and on the reverse side, sealed tight with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice: “Who is worthy to open the scroll and loose its seals?” 3 But neither in heaven nor upon earth nor underneath the earth was there a single one able to open the scroll or to look into it. 4 And I gave way to a great deal of weeping because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to look into it. 5 But one of the elders says to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

(Revelation 5:9-10) And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, because you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”

Thus the significance of Christ being divinely worthy to “open” the “seven seals”, is God selecting and allowing Christ to understand the prophecy contained in the seven “seals” first—to “open the seal” is to understand what is within the “seal” before the nested prophecy in that “seal” transpires.

(Revelation 6:1) And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals…

Thus when the seals were opened, Christ gained the initial overview of the full prophetic outworking of God’s “sacred secret” purpose, one time, in full, when he opened all seven seals sequentially in 1914. The seven seals are already “opened”. This means Christ as appointed temporary King in God’s Kingdom, was shown these things first to oversee their full fulfillment later to proceed to the Messianic Kingdom completion portion in time.

The seals opened once, when Christ was given full understanding of what was inside of each seal and thus the whole two sided scroll. Thus Christ opening all “seven seals” is his full understanding of the entire Revelation which he delivered to John from God as a “sacred secret” final revelation he could not understand at that time—only God Almighty initially understood the “sacred secret” fully, which the “seven seals” “scroll” details by the deeper prophecies within those seals that were shown to Christ in 1914.

(Revelation 1:1) A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. 

Thus God allowed the seals to be opened to Christ, by Christ, to allow anointed Christians to understand “what must shortly take place”, so that they could tell everyone all about it before it all fulfilled fully.

Now you can understand why those trying to explain the “seven seals” as sequential prophecies of the future, with no understanding of what a “seal” symbolizes, will make errors in the imagined sequence. 

When it comes to the seventh seal, the seven trumpets deeper prophecy was understood by Christ since 1914, that “seal” has already “opened” and is fully understood by Christ. Thus the events that take place in the seven trumpets nested prophecy of the future, known  by Christ now within that seal’s full symbolic understanding, are what is to fulfill in the future, in final cycle form as the “seven trumpets”, not the already “opened” seven seals overview.

Yet the events in the seven trumpets (Rev8-11) and its parallel seven plagues (Rev15-16), will respect the sequence of events in the seven seals, which first four seals are already the global war accelerant developments of those symbolisms that began with World War One as the world war theme was set for the rest of the century in 1914-1918 first cycle. Like the “sign” in Matthew 24, the intensity of the first four seals global “horse” ride will intensify to completion in the future. But the quadruple “horse” ride did all begin with WW1.

The Seven Seals Prophecy Contains Other Prophecies

The detailed prophecies the seals contain are separate nested prophecies that will fulfill later. 

What is inside of those seals are the actually further nested prophecies, that all take place fully in the “seven trumpets” and “seven plagues” which are the actual global manifestations of those prophecies of future trumpets and plagues which are nested in the “seventh seal”. The “seals” are not the future prophecy, they are already “opened” to Christ’s complete understanding from back in his God’s Kingdom installment, to carry all this out as God’s anointed King.

The unique feature of the “seven seals” is that it is a prophecy in itself, that contains other nested prophecies within the “seals” that fulfill later fully. No other prophecy is structured like the “seven seals”. The “seven seals” also contain the “seven trumpets”, that is unique.

(In such manner the original preview cycle fulfillment that Jehovah’s witnesses have made known is valid, it merely repeats in a final world war cycle of the future, as the Revelation 13 global “sword stroke” to global “healing” process also repeats prior to 8th King world government which “ascends from the abyss” with that global “healing” process concurrently. (Rev11:7; Rev17:8-18; Rev13:3, Rev13:15-18))

The seventh seal “seven trumpets” fully explain the whole sequence of the first six seals, in greater detail of how the sequence is to actually unfold with the seven plagues from the temple judgment activation (Rev8), to the ministerial recovery (Rev9-10), to the final warning (Rev11:17) in the “tribulation of those days” to conclude into 8th King world government and then Christ’s arrival (Rev11:7-13), for Messianic Kingdom completion, final sheep securement and 7th Trumpet final universal and global conquest (Rev11:15-19) of God and Christ, the whole point of the seven trumpet overview.

The whole prophecy used to be a secret even unknown by Jesus Christ; at one time, only God Almighty understood what was in those seven seals, thus what the entire scroll contains. The seals are symbolic of sealed, therefore secret, divine information, that when unsealed are symbolic of Christ “the Lamb” coming to full understanding of what the “seal” contains when he “opens” it in actual understanding of future events and tasks for Christ’s understanding first.

The “seven” is Christ’s full understanding of God’s purpose in how the final prophecies must unfold fully, in every detail, for he is involved in their final fulfillment.

(Revelation 5:6) And I saw standing in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures and in the midst of the elders a lamb as though it had been slaughtered, having seven horns and seven eyes, which [eyes] mean the seven spirits of God that have been sent forth into the whole earth. 

The seals opened are symbolic of Christ fully knowing from God, how God’s “sacred secret” is fully revealed first, and brought to a finish in the subsequent seven trumpets prophetic fulfillment which is nested in that seventh seal, already now fully understood by Christ before it all unfolds, to carry it all out fully in the future.

And that is why the sixth trumpet is when the announcement of completion of that “sacred secret” is “brought to a finish”, that is the overall divine “secret” all “seven seals” contain that are summarized in the “little scroll” fully fulfilling this directive of God:

(Revelation 10:5-7) And the angel that I saw standing on the sea and on the earth raised his right hand to heaven, 6 and by the One who lives forever and ever, who created the heaven and the things in it and the earth and the things in it and the sea and the things in it, he swore: “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

Which leads to the final commission of the “little scroll” final divine sovereign ultimatum of Messianic Kingdom completion certainty:

(Revelation 10:8-10) And the voice that I heard out of heaven is speaking again with me and saying: “Go, take the opened scroll that is in the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the earth.” 9 And I went away to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll. And he said to me: “Take it and eat it up, and it will make your belly bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey.” 10 And I took the little scroll out of the hand of the angel and ate it up, and in my mouth it was sweet as honey; but when I had eaten it up, my belly was made bitter. 

And the “witnessing” occurs again, the second time the “two witnesses” “prophecy” concerning Kingdom reality, this time the Messianic Kingdom completion proclamation:

(Revelation 10: 11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

Thus we can see why those explaining the “seals” as if they are a sequential prophecy of the future, do not understand the basic symbolic meaning of the “seal” itself, and how it is already “opened” to Christ, by Christ, by God’s appointment and decree. And that is why the overview in all six first seals opened to Christ’s mind, is fully explained within the “seventh seal”, already opened to Christ, in its seven trumpets content, which are the sequential future prophecy yet to fulfill in full form that completes the whole thing for real, in the future.

Therefore it is the seven trumpets that fulfill in the future, not the “seven seals” which have already opened to Christ’s full understanding since 1914. Of course those doubting 1914 will not see the significance of Christ’s required full understanding given by God first, in His Kingdom first, to oversee the whole future unfolding of the entire “sacred secret brought to a finish”.

Christ In God’s Kingdom First to Then Lead to Christ in Messianic Kingdom Later

Thus the logic is God gives Christ full prophetic insight to guide the Messianic Kingdom completion process over the intervening time period of the first witnessing of Jehovah’s witnesses since the 1914-1919 first main cycle. And thus the original Jehovah’s witnesses explanation of Revelation is a valid preview fulfillment that has accompanied Christ’s divine empowerment as King of God’s Kingdom since 1914.

But that is not the only Kingdom Christ will assume the kingship in. 

Christ will be crowned “King of kings” in the Messianic Kingdom sovereign agency as well, which has been preparing for completion over this entire century of developments, as aided by that preview fulfillment being made known by Jehovah’s witnesses. But the Messianic Kingdom must also complete and have Christ placed by God Almighty as coronated and installed “King of kings” “King Priest” in that yet to complete Messianic Kingdom final required sovereign agency—the one that actually smashes the 8th King when they are ready and complete, and rules planet Earth forevermore. (Dan2:31-45)

(Daniel 2:34-35) You kept on looking until a (Messianic Kingdom) stone was cut out not by hands, and it struck the (complete 8th King world government) image on its feet of iron and of molded clay and crushed them. 35 At that time the iron, the molded clay, the copper, the silver and the gold were, all together, crushed and became like the chaff from the summer threshing floor, and the wind carried them away so that no trace at all was found of them. And as for the stone that struck the image, it became a large mountain and filled the whole earth.

And this is why Revelation’s main cycle will repeat in final form in the future, to lead to the developments that will signal that required Messianic Kingdom completion before it fully culminates. Thus just as the initial preview fulfillment manifested with God’s Kingdom activity in regard to Christ’s Kingship there to oversee the rest of the ministry, the final fulfillment of Revelation will manifest with the Messianic Kingdom completion drive in regard to Christ’s final Kingship in that Kingdom entity as well.

That future Messianic Kingdom completion will thus conveniently culminate and converge with the 8th King world government completion simultaneously, for the final global sovereign confrontation between the 8th King and the Messianic Kingdom “King of kings and Lord of lords” at Armageddon. And we can see how a full and fair warning can now precede the arrival of that dual sovereign convergence to the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” (Rev16:13-16), thus giving full warning before it all goes head on with God and Christ. (Rev9-11)

Two Witnessings

This is why there will have been two witnessings when this all completes.

The Jehovah’s witnesses “first witnessing” period since 1914-1919 gave global witness to God’s Kingdom events of 1914 that saw Christ empowered in God’s Kingdom first. In the future, after the final temple judgment, the final anointed Christian ministry to be purified (Dan8:13-14) from upcoming anti-ministerial events upon Jehovah’s witnesses (Rev8), will in time (Rev9-10) give the “second witness” (Rev11) which will give global witness to the then Messianic Kingdom completion events of the future, to fully culminate after the rival demon proxy human system completes its own defiant global 8th King world government. (Dan11:45; Dan12:11; Dan8:25; Rev17:8-18)

This is why anointed Christians, will “prophesy again” in the future (Rev10:11), once the UN NGO Bethel apostasy is laid low to start Revelation 8:3-5 final cycle fulfillment meaning of the parallel to the Daniel 8:13-14 coming temple judgment of Jehovah’s witnesses. (Zech3:1-5; Mal3:1-5; 1Pet4:17)

All of Revelation 8-11 will then progress sequentially in the seven trumpets activating, once the temple judgment portion activates Revelation 8 temple judgment parallel for final cycle fulfillment in the “tribulation of those days” phase beginning, that leads to 8th King world government completion first (Rev11:7; Rev17:8-12), then Christ’s arrival, as that “tribulation of those days” expires first.

(Matthew 24:29-31) “Immediately after the tribulation of those days (That tribulation ends, the 1260 days ends; Rev11:7-10 conclusion timing just prior to Revelation 11:11-12 event parallels) the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (the whole sovereign structure of world rulership has changed. Rev6:12-17 parallel) 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. (Rev11:11-12 parallel) 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound (7th trumpet related immediate prelude of Messianic Kingdom completion, “in the days of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet”. Rev10:5-7), and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds (of that final “great tribulation” phase), from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity. (both “sheep” groups heavenly and earthly);

This is because “new world order” world government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and stated (1Thess5:1-3), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes, when they are good and ready. That takes several more years even from the beginning of the temple judgment and the “tribulation of those days” transitional phase of the overall “great tribulation”.

Thus the “four winds of the earth” phase (Rev7:1-4; Matt24:31) transpires under full 8th King world government because the final anointed affirmation sealing takes place as the final warning commission is carried out fully (Rev10:5-11; Rev11:1-7; Zech3:6-9), which final sealing enables the “four winds” phase as the “tribulation of those days” ends with that 1260 days.

Seven Sealed Open Two Sided Scroll

This is why this scroll has two sides as outlines of both Kingdom phases:

(Revelation 5:1-5) And I saw in the right hand of the One seated upon the throne a scroll written within and on the reverse side, sealed tight with seven seals.

There is a fulfillment cycle concerning both of the Kingdom developments in God’s Kingdom and the later Messianic Kingdom fulfillments each of which will have a full “little scroll” “witness” in the “two witnesses” to announce the certainty of the prophecy now leading to the Messianic Kingdom completion cycle.